mikkosant

Has anyone here been able to use the link dozer program. It looks pretty neat, especially since it has a great article content spinner wrapped into it.

Tell me your experiences with it.

Link Dozer: Organic Marketing - SEO & Content Manager

marcolav

Hello

I just registered and started using LD about a week ago.
I can tell you the learning curve is quite steep, plus there are a few hiccups, not real bugs, still annoying. We are not allowed to discuss much of it in public forums, however I noticed that pretty much all pages/posts/links built using LD get indexed quite fast, unlike the various web 2.0 profiles you get in the various backlinks packets.
The system is also very good in helping you get organized as it has tools to manage your project quite efficiently


marco

BillyPilgrim

I agree with Marco. It's a steep learning curve but appears to be the most "white hat" of the back linking suites. And Kristina's views on SEO are mind boggling, at least to this Neanderthal.

Christian Fox

Watched the videos. It looks interesting but leaves a lot out. Are you building WP sites, 2.0 sites, does it use templates, images?

I am weary of automatic spinners (think it uses one?) I have yet to see one that is not a dead giveaway.

Looks like it could be good but a lot of ?'s after watching videos.

Zeb

From what i can gather, linkdozer is an advanced spinning tool and link builder. Don't really know what the secrets are but i think that it has something to do with the spinner (AI). Don't know what the auto growth secret is though. I'm only speculating here based on what i found in G for "linkdozer review".

Maybe someone could shed some more light about this but i think that LD doesn't allow it's users to disclose information about it. Awww come on guys, let the cat out of the bag

rhab

As one of my fellow link dozer members commented, it is a rather closed community and there are certain details which we are asked not to discuss. I'll be happy to give a bit of a review here.

First, I had never heard about link dozer before, probably like many here. I accidentally stumbled across it while reading the Vita Vee forums. Vita was also someone I had not really heard about until recently. He's a French marketer who I recently started following. This guy is really sharp and I'm now a big fan. He isn't one of the mainstream gurus, he doesn't push everyone and anyone's products. He has an excellent video series called "From 0 to Profit" and he's well know within his circle of creating instructional videos by request of his "fans" on programs and topics they are interested in.

Link Dozer looked very interesting to me. The owner/creator, Kristina, was again someone I had never heard of. After reading some of her posts and watching her videos, I became an instant fan. Her insight, knowledge, and expertise regarding SEO is "mind boggling" when you get on the inside and see what she has to share, and I have totally revamped my views and beliefs when it comes to SEO thanks to her.

So anyway, honestly, it was a bit of a leap of faith when joining Link Dozer. The sales page in my opinion does not quite provide enough details or give a really clear picture of LD. Based on my opinions of both Vita Vee's recommendation, and my impression of Kristina, I felt it would be a worthwhile investment to join. I am truly glad that I did.

Here are a few points I think most Warriors would be interested in, obviously I have to leave out certain details of other elements of the program.

First, you cannot truly compare a program like SENuke with Link Dozer, but because they perform similar functions of account creations and posting, I'll share the differences in my opinion.

LD does have a learning curve. I watched the instructional videos several times thru beore I attempted to use the program. I was intimidated at first, but after I actually started using it, the light bulb popped on and I saw that LD is really straight forward and rather simple to use.

I feel it is brilliantly designed with each element serving a very specific purpose in function and design. Kristina is highly skilled anmd knowledgable, and you can tell LD is her baby. She is very protective of LD which is very reassuring and she is constantly developing LD as well as listening to the community input.

Being semi-automated, I now have much more control over my content and how it is published. I find that I like this even better than when I was using SENuke, which I dropped this month in favor of LD. Full automation has it's purpose and is nice at times, but LD is extremely powerful and goes beyond SENuke.

LD delivers much more than programs like SENuke. Where automated creation of web 2.0 properties is nice, LD not only delivers web 2.0 properties, but it also delievers a network of blogs which are already indexed and have built "trust" in google. I feel this is much more effective than web 2.0 sites because you still need to do the work to index those web 2.0 sites to make them worth anything, then you have to be concerned about whether or not they have any staying power. There are two types of blog networks within LD which I am seeing to be quite powerful.

Along with a blog network, web 2.0 sites and profile type sites are also include along with bookmarking sites. Again, semi-automated but no more than a few additional clicks.

LD has a great feature that creates unique accounts on every website you sign up to. You create a primary account within LD, then as you create accounts on asll the various sites, LD will automatically sign up with unique user profiles. All of which is saved within LD so you casn easily login at anytime without having to record the logins and info.

All content is spinnable. So as you create your accounts on all the sites, titles, content, etc... are spinnable, this naturally includes all the bookmarking sites.

There is a lot more to the program, but again some of these other elements we've been asked not to discuss outside of LD.

A part from the program, there is a whole video section on the forums. Kristina has provided a lot of instructional videos on not only the program itself, but on SEO in great detail and how to best use LD in your campaigns. These videos go into great detail and she truly shares a great deal of knowledge. So you get the program but you also get an SEO education and instruction.

With LD, I have been able to cut monthly expenses as well. I dropped SENuke and I also dropped my M.A.N. subscription, simply don't need them anymore.

Results... Well, since I only recently joined and took about 2 weeks to really familiarize myself with the program and "relearn" what real SEO is and how to do it, I have only used LD on a couple projects.

The first project was a new site which only received some bookmarks, an rss submission, and pinging to get it started. After using LD it went from Position #38 to #8. Today I checked and the site is now at #6 so looks to be climbing.

I used it on several recent sites about a month old which I got to page 1 but for the past couple weeks were not moving up from their positions at #9, and two at #8. After using LD these sites are now at #3, #5, and #6 and two have double listings. Again, I expect them to climb.

On an older site, I used LD for a couple keywords which were ranking #7/#8, this site is now sitting at #1 after a week.

A couple sites are at a high number of competition and a couple are mid range 6 figures in competition.

So, I'm very pleased with Link Dozer. If there are any specific questions, I'll be happy to answer if I can. Hope this helps.

ChrisG

ok, do you pretty much need only one original unique article to input into the system, and that will be spun into as many versions as needed by the system?

rhab

Hey Chris, the built in spinner is a combination of spinner and thesaurus. It is developed as an A.I. program. This is one element that is not talked about outside of Link Dozer Club.

Out of all the elements of LD, this is one that I am taking time to learn more about and gain experience using. At this stage, I am actually using a different spinner for the moment until I get the hang of LD's tool.

Now, don't get the idea that this spinner will magically create spun articles for you. Like any rewriter you need to do a little work. But it's features are such that over time you will indeed be able to simply click and have your article completely rewritten. This tool is reportedly getting 75%-80% plus uniqueness when spun. That is huge compared to the average of 30% most people settle for and achieved in most other programs.

This doesn't mean you cannot achieve this % in other programs, but you'll spend more time and effort.

The other cool feature is that due to the design and function of the program, after you have spun your article, during the publishing phase of LD to all the accounts you have created, the program saves your work and it is merely a single click to add unique content on any and every website you want. So there is no need to leave LD to copy and paste, or to alt-tab to another spinning program. It's all built in and smoothly integrated.

BillyPilgrim

Just to echo what rhab said, while the tool is fantastic, LD is so much more than the tool. Just being able to have someone as...frankly, brilliant, about SEO as Kristina is the biggest bonus. It's amazing that she did this all by herself.

ChrisG

Thanks for your input Billy and rhab, I was considering SE Nuke but may give this a whirl instead.

BillyPilgrim

Chris,
You can do both. Watch vita vee's video on how to use SENuke and try the 7 day trial. But SEN is essentially a spamming tool whereas LD is white hat (as much as ALL seo) because of the networks inside the club and the way spinning works to create gobs of unique, readable content from one article.

Rainmak3r

If I may add my own sentiments about LD...

The thesaurus is bottomless in terms of words, but creating variations of your content is a drag; you don't have the flexibility of PAR in that you can create variations of sentences eg "{welcome and thank you for visiting|It is a pleasure to see you here}"... you can only create variations of same phrase in the article, and the article spinning is only limited to 6 words in a sentence of your article at a time...if that makes sense)...ie. the thesaurus will only churn out variations to the 6 words you've chosen, without the flexibility to write your own phrase as in the above balded syntax.

The learning curve is crazy.... but with a bit of ingenuity, you can important a PAR version of your article (squigglies and all) into LD and use the thesaurus to expand that article there.

You can literally create over 1000 articles using LD...but again, it's time consuming.

As for the content network you can post to... LD has a blog network of over 2000 blogs...(plus the kickapps directory) some of which you would have to host on your own for unique IP classes.

Posting to half the blog network is fully automated, and the other half is semi automated.

The blog network is not available to the outside world... so only contains content from the LD community (low PR and Alexa rankings).

The human mind gives up after trying to learn how to use the app... it's really complicated, the video tutorials, though descriptive, skimp on the material part...this being finalizing the spun content for publishing to the blog network within the app.

Recently I posted an article to the network and it was indexed within about 3 minutes!!! It's that fast...

Hope this helps.

rajeshwatts

I have just joined LD yesterday. Going through the videos now. At the moment after watching some videos and reading some posts in the forum I can say I am at the right place. Seems like worth of each and every penny. Learning curve is steep but I better spend few days in learning then doing things the wrong way. I will post my experience again after using the system.

Rajesh

Klemen

im interested in link dozer too, but not many forums talk, here are two most extensively
presented at french Internet marketer Vita Vee`s forum

vitavee(dot)com/forums/thread-66-page-1.html
vitavee(dot)com/forums/thread-67-page-1.html

hope u ll get some answers there;

reapr

@rhab and others using it. Has it made a significant difference in your income and have you found it to work better than say SEnuke?

kislany

I've only started it recently but after seeing everything LD offers and after watching all the videos and putting into practice a few things, I can safely say that it will.

Everything that Kristina teaches is based on sound SEO (and boy her videos are something else entirely, you've got to see them to believe!) and it's such a complex package that no matter how you tackle it, you will be able to get something out of it. If you do it right, they will leave no footprint, which sadly most other packages currently do.

Oh and I have practically all links shown up in YSE. I know that many claim that the backlinks don't need to show in order for the whatever product they are advertising to work, but how come these links really do show up, and I mean every single one of them, and some within 24 hours. I was amazed, only Eza articles used to show up so fast in YSE in my experience.

Anyway, I stopped with Senuke and Synnd and now I'm using exclusively LD with some extra article marketing for good measure. I have to say, it is a terrific software and full SEO package.

clickwise

Rainmak3r, if that's the only thing that it does then here's a cheaper solution with a 30 day money-back guarantee.

Video guide here: Created by Camtasia Studio 6

Transcript here: http://www.senuke.com/advanced_spinning_transcript.pdf

Everybody else, you're welcome.

dotcomdesigns

SEnuke is just a spamming tool that gets you quick short term results. Linkdozer is in another class and is for the more experienced serious user. I've used SEnuke and was impressed to begin with but this soon faded.

I'm now a member of Linkdozer and it's truly an exceptional piece of software. There is a real steep learning curve with it so it's not for newbies.

clickwise

It's a SPAM tool if you use it to SPAM. It does what it says it does, and that's it. No leap of faith, no filling sales page with empty promises.

mikkosant

Wow, It sounds like it's giving you some incredible results. So you're saying that the link dozer spinner is able to somewhat future proof your spins as opposed to other spinners?

Klemen

It is not allowed to speak about it outside LD forum, but yes, it can be spinned over and over again maintaining high uniqueness;

Im inside for a week now, and I feel like a god, hope Kristina will close it at 300; and yes subscription price is said to go up, since she is delivering a new feauture

BillyPilgrim

I've given up trying to explain LD. It definitely isn't for newbies. But if you've done this for a while, think you know about spinning (you don't, neither did I) and can afford the vig for a month or so to figure it out, I'd say give it a go.

On the other hand, the less people that know about this, the better I will like it

This is far more than an SEO tool, it's an SEO education. It's not nearly as automated as SEN and because we are going for very high uniqueness I doubt it ever will be. That said, other than the spin technology, it's only a few more buttons to click.

I find, for the most part, when Gurus put something out for you to buy, it's because it's already run its course for them (you know who you are). With Kristina, we're in at the ground floor.

mikkosant

It sounds like link dozer is a pure system while senuke is more about raw power and speed at the cost of verging on SPAM.
I'm going to give LD a try this month. Thanks for your reviews and experiences.

AllThingsArePossible

it's a big learning curve for software

gimme a week ot two and will give feedback

I can say this for a fact so far the support is nothing but first class by the CEO herself

John W.G.

Are those blogs spread across mostly different IP addresses?

BillyPilgrim

Yes, they are.

Klemen

in addition to that you can insert your own stand alone IP blogs which become part of network; blogs are yours and you can fully monetize them, would write you more but Im limited to Link Dozer s TOS

*note of caution if you are serious about learning Link Dozer:
with well over 200 members, 300 limit is closing soon now \m/

hope that help!

Global365

Part of the problem with these program are when developers try and dumb them down so more people can use them, click here, check this, push that and your done. When a program gets so homogenized it becomes nothing more then an expensive toy and not a tool like linkdozer. If people actually expect to pick up a sophisticated tool and learn it in 5 minutes with a few camtasia videos they are only fooling themselves, kinda like buying an ebook to making 100k a month ;-)

Linkdozer is a TOOL, not a toy, and an incredibly sophisticated and effective tool, and unless you have the commitment to implement the tool then stick with a plug and play toy, u cant have both. And a refreshing breath of fresh air is Kristina is a brilliant programmer, and you won't find her selling a new product in 2 months....

mozesteven

I found the great review about Link Dozer. Hope there is a slot for me. Thank you.

Regards,
Mozes

gtgpua

Im reading that people are saying this has a huge learning curve. Can someone who is using it please give the approximate number of hours it takes to learn it, assuming someone is an absolute beginner and knows nothing.

OR if you could give an estimate in number of hours it took to learn it based on your own experience.

pearsonbrown

I gave up after a few days, even though it cost me $90, because I didn't have the time to search through all the information. I found the training material rambling and confused.

Even something as simple as getting the program installed and running on Vista (it needs to be done in admin mode) becomes complicated because that information is not readily available.

I can see how powerful the program could be but I would only contemplate using it if you can clear the decks for a few week and spend all your time battling with the training, setting up 300 social network links (once you've worked out how to download the file of names) etc.

Pearson

Global365

I am going to be starting it in a few days and I am going to keep track and log all training and work involved to get a indepth review for a website I am building, so I will have a complete schedule breakdown in 3-4 weeks I imagine and will post results here...

Focused Action

Sounds like this can be a powerful tool - hopefully the owner of the product is reading this thread. Sounds like if you streamlined the learning curve either via software changes or with the training videos, you will reap huge rewards. I am hesitant with this as I tried senuke several months ago and just seemed lost with half of it - training videos were for older versions, etc.

Klemen

Link Dozer is serious thing, too big for my wishes as I hoped for when I applied, but yet highly rewarding; since all this IM promoted products hype are offering automation and kind of magic push button seo solutions

LD is different, in such way that even Kristina, the owner is not aware since,the teaching she does is held in the way that she is expecting lot of seo knowledge when you approach her community;

Besides LD tools and blog network, her answerings to the forum questions are full, not of undergrand seo secrets as she stated , but of actual seo proces how Google is seeing your sites, content and backlinks ,

My personal experience as a 4 months in IM business is like , I m in for now 2nd month, besides my day job I needed one month to watch all the videos, check the forum, now in 2nd month I m getting the whole picture on how to propperly set up my strategy inside LD and at the end of my 3rd month I hope I ll will start to roll out my campaign through LD tools,

not for total newbie, but If u r here for long term seo knowledge I would say LD is a muss, and if you are experienced, it would still open your eyes,

see the visual presentation I just compiled;
hope that helps!

Klemen

Richnana

I used SENUKE for the entire week, got a little concerned when I had to pay extra for the article spinner and then an offer for instructional videos to explain how it worked for $67.00 I felt that the price was a little steep to begin with and then I need to pay more to understand how to use it outside the videos on the site.

Then I have to pay for the article spinning? I cancelled after the 1st week. Glad to hear about LD and will investigate further and sign up ... opps just saw the discount above.

donnyh

Agreed. Link Dozer is SEO non-sensically complicated for no particular reason.

I checked it so that I might learn a thing or two, but man, I couldn't bare sitting through those videos.

What irks me is that people actually think they NEED to do it this way in order to get good results.

It seems to me like this woman is branding herself by throwing a bunch of fairly complicated theories about the way search engines work (theories that are very difficult to test, mind you) and everyone is going "oh man this lady is so smart, i guess i need this membership".

SEO is NOT THIS COMPLICATED!

Seriously, throw up a website with a keyword-matched domain, write a couple of articles with your keywords in there.. throw some relevant links and boom you're ranking.

I have LOTS of websites ranked this way.

There is absolutely NO NEED to spin articles the way she teaches, jump through all the loopholes as though you're solving some calculus problem.

Klemen

obviously you can rank with backlinking methods that works for you, but since everyone is spamming the net in same way, Google gives more attention to natural human behaviour, and that is exactly what Link Dozer is set for; to manipulate the content in natural way; though simple thing, in practice it is not so, heh

Fitnessdad

Man there is 3 to 4 warriors that are constantly selling link dozer. I tried it it has some great ideas but overall was not impressed enough to pay the monthly fee for it. There are products you can use to do the samething at a much lower rate.

mtntgr

Interesting offer - your rebate that is.

I was just about to order a load of content / articles for a website I'm seo-ing for someone else.
(Both for onsite and offsite use.)

Are you saying that Link Dozer makes that unnecessary!?
Hard to imagine...

Thanks

Klemen

If you are in need of quick solution then Link Dozer might not be for you,
setting up LD to become effective takes a lot of effort on time;
that is why discount is offered for 2 months, since of learning Google`s seo and implementing LD tools to effective mimic human behaviour

once set, then it is a poetry and your links stay;

hope that helps!

Klemen

Dexx

So basically Link Dozer's account registration is similar to using Roboform? (based on the videos)

It takes you to site, you click "fill form" then submit...then go to your email and verify the account for each account made...for 200+ sites?

I'm all for non-spammy tools but account that kind of manual account registration seems pretty archaic!

Is there a way to outsource that aspect at all?

How often will you need to create new accounts? One profile per niche you are promoting I assume? (not sure how the website linking works)

Does LD allow you to cross promote links with other members in the network, or just your own network of websites you build? (since it mentions promoting to a blog network of already indexed pages)

How does LD compare to a service like Web2Mayhem which is also semi-automated but also allows for submission to Podcast/Software Directories as well as their indexed blog network of properties (various owner IPs)


~Dexx

Klemen

Hi Dexx,

yes, basically the acount creations and signings are working half automatically,

some mebmers as I see in LD forum are fully outsourcing all Link dozer` s tasks, you have to download dropbox application so the files can be synchronised from yours and VAs computer;

I personally use one account for one project; it helps me to better track all my done tasks, however you are still able to switch your projects anytime between email accounts, depends on the way you want to have your postings organized

you can post your unique articles you made with LD tools to:
article directories,
social 2.o sites,
two blog networks, the third is in progress, (all of over 1000 blogs)

you post to LD blogs, LD users blogs and you can set up your own blogs inside (various IPs), have it for your use or for other members to post on,

maybe some other LD users can comment on Web2Mayhem comparrison;

hope that helps!

Klemen

Dexx

Ah I see, and when you submit to the blog network of other LD user's, does it get posted automatically, or do you need to wait a couple days/weeks for them to view and approve those postings?

Does LD do anything in regards to video submission capabilities?

Klemen

in blogs submitting is done half automatically, LD fills the forms and you submit; however Kristina doesnt gives no actall blueprint on how and when, so you organize it by yourself, which makes your links more natural appearing;

for article directories depends on their terms;

for video I use Pixelpipe - Sign In, it has all major video sharing sites

hope this helps,

Klemen

Avidpoet

That was one of the reasons I didnt stick around I have VISTA and wanted guidance to get LD to work with VISTA but she emailed me and said search the Forums for the fix I eventually found the link but then it just seemed like rocket science to get it to install. I finally got it installed after about a week of searching (VISTA sucks by the way)

rayray7

Way too complicated. Took something that should be a joy to a pain. Do not ask the wrong question or you will get it. The whole process is shrouded in secrecy. Senuke is still the best by long notch.

A Bary

LD is a great application..

However, some people (for the sake of promotion and affiliate commissions) are trying to simplify things to catch a sale...

I have been a member for 2 months, but I canceled, not because of the software, but because I didn't got the time to use it..

Kristina is a great person, and she is the most helpful person I met online, I read a weird comment about the LD forum and that you can't ask questions, actually, Kristina helped me with issues away from LD, related to my sites, she is a very nice lady, and I learned alot from her during these 2 months..

The point is, LD isn't a quick solution, it has a STEEP learning curve, and needs long time to master and to put it in your favor, I can't talk about results because actually I couldn't get the chance to test them, however, with Kristina knowledge and effort made to develop this application, I believe results could be amazing...

If you have time, and have no problem to pay for the membership for 1 or 2 months without actually using it to the maximum (you'll be learning), then go ahead, you won't be disappointed, but if you're looking for a quick fix like SN and the same, then LD isn't for you

Headflood

Anybody else have any REAL results using LD? Anybody doing some real testing on sites, article urls, etc... that may have some good feedback here?

Monkey Jones

I've just have to say, I just checked out the videos at Link Doser, and the whole secrecy thing is LAME. She shouldn't even have shown the video, because it illustrates the archaic nature of the software. The system may be brill, but the tools need work. It is ridiculous to say having a very SEMI AUTOMATED method of signing up for the various websites will look more natural. At least she could incorporate a CAPTCHA solving service. I believe Roboform would perform just as well, if not better.

Due to the primitive sign-up tools I find it very difficult to believe that the pinnacle of AI is incorporated into this system. Perhaps this is a good organizational system, but if you buy a planner and some tools you can do this for much less than $97.00/month.

AllThingsArePossible

I've been using it for the past month and it's been a great tool but with a steep learning curve.

the tool allows you to automate the process of signing and posting articles for differentt accounts like article, bookmarking, blog sites which is great.

but the downside is learning the thesarus tool to create unique articles for posting content.

overall, I recommend LD only if you have time to invest because it does take some work to learn the tools in the control panel.

if anyone needs a little guidance how best to get started with LD, pm me and I will point you in the right direction