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Hi guys and gals,

I would like to start off by thanking you all for such a wealth of free marketing advice and information. I've been looking around and am in aww.. alot about marketing that didn't even cross my mind. So I'm very thankful to you guys for making this site.

Being fairly new to marketing and with only a few sites under my belt I've been searching for ways to up my traffic and help make me a little more income.

It's actually this searching that lead me to the Warrior Forum...

I was checking out Senuke "an automation software" before I actually went ahead and spent any money I wanted to know what it had for competition and pricing.

When I searched for senuke alternative I came accross this Senuke Detonator. Then when I visited the .com it seems to be something totally and completely different. Now I think this is new because I couldn't find anything reviewing it on this forum or anywheres.

I hope this isn't a stupid question.. but is Senuke Detonator the same as Senuke or is this something completely new?

I'd really would appreciate some clarification...:confused:...

And again thanks Forum for all your help and knowledge...this place is awesome!

Thanks,
TonyMcKinnon
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  • Profile picture of the author wizozz
    SEnukedetonator seems to be a service based on SENuke program. But I cannot say anything good or bad, even the order link does not work. It seems like it is "under construction".
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    • Profile picture of the author Raych
      I received their email announcing the new service, but also can't find any other information. It sounds interesting at the outset, but of course, as they say "the devil is in the details". Let's keep one another posted, shall we?
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      • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
        You won't find a lot about it yet simply because it hasn't been launched.

        From what I understand Detonator is being offered by the guy behind the whole creation of Senuke "Joe Russell".

        Basically he is offering an outsourcing service where his people will use SEnuke to do all the website promotion and content creation for your promotions etc for you.

        If you read through the forum about SEnuke you will soon find out that to most people it is the best service around for what it provides.

        However, the major thing is that you need a strategy with SEnuke if you don't have one then I think you are wasting your time and money. What Joe's new service seems to do is to take care of all that for you.

        It seems to be a proper plug it in and leave it service.

        Because it is a service being offered by the guy that acually created SEnuke in the first place then you can be sure that he knows how to get the best out of the software.

        Anyway, most of the stuff you need to know is on the sale page:

        SE nuke Detonator

        But as I say it is basically Joe's people using SEnuke to promote your site in the best and most strategic way.

        Hope that clarifies things.
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        • Profile picture of the author TonyMcK
          OK.. So I guess having the "creator" of the software running it for me may definitely have some advantages. Especially if he's using his own strategy..where I'm fairly new to marketing this would completely eliminate the need for me to learn how to run a new software.

          I also noticed on the sales page that they even create promotional videos, and content.

          Now I'm not lazy but...... it's definitely worth checking out if I can sit back and let them do all the work...

          Thanks for the clarification... I'm thinking if the guy created the software he should be able to help me..
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        • Profile picture of the author Richnana
          I just signed up for SeNUKE and I am so impressed with the system. However, I think that I still need the McRea information to create the ultimate traffic system. There is so much that it does for you. I am looking at the videos which to be honest need a little help But the system I think is a winner. I think it saves a lot of money and time.

          I usually would not spend $127.00 a month for anything other than food or some basics but I think this is it.

          We can stop spending money on useless ebooks and we have a blueprint for massive traffic. I am rethinking my whole line of business at this point. This thing rocks. There is no way anyone could ever reach the magnitude of people manually or distribute information across so many platforms. I am literally SENUKED!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    I usually hate the "if it's making him all that money why he's is sharing this" posts - as it implies all successful marketers would keep their "secrets" to themselves, and all marketing teachers would be scam artists.

    But in this case, I don't get why he'd use his team to promote other people's site if he can make more money promoting his own... As the link is not working, we don't know the price either
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    • Profile picture of the author Leads4Builders
      I don't know why they are doing this new service, butAll I know is this...SENuke is hands down the best SEO Software on the market...I've been able to consistently get top 10 rankings using it. If Joe is offering to do it now for me, wow, I can't wait to use the service.
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      • Profile picture of the author reilly3000
        Agreed, very excited about this potential 'turn-key' use of SENuke- its a phenomenal software and takes some skill and time to use. If they can deliver good service its a much better value than trying to find somebody else to run it for you effectively.

        It appears from the sales page that it is based on a subscription model. I am curious on how they are going to structure the pricing. Anybody care to speculate about what the pricing might be?
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by Jay Rhome View Post

      But in this case, I don't get why he'd use his team to promote other people's site if he can make more money promoting his own
      There are a lot of reasons why he would do this. Diversifying is a great thing. After all, following your train of thought he wouldn't have released SEnuke in the first place, he would have just had it created and then just kept it to himself.

      The Internet is almost infinite in the opportunities to make money. Not everyone is just going to say Clickbank, or CJ to promote things. the opportunites are vast. The chances of us all jumping in on his most luractive niches (which might actually be IM related) are probably quite slim. And even if we did, there are normally a hold myriad of ways to attack any given niche if you think outside the box. So I really don't think he is worried about everyone overtaking him in the search engines, using his own team, or anything like that.

      Believe it or not, there is room for all of us, especially when you take into account that the majority of people will not make any real money at this game (that's just statistics and the way it is.)

      I think this could be a great service but I would need to know more about how many submissions they do a month to different services etc. and a few other things as well. The sales page is a bit vague. When you compare it to things like trafficsage or even doing things through somewhere like lexorsoft, with those sorts of services you know exactly what you are getting in advance, because there is a list of what you will get for your money.

      Currently with detonator I have yet to see a list so even though Joe says it is using the stategy he uses, but at the end of the day at the moment you are being asked to go on faith and he could just be doing one set of submissions a month and that is it.

      Some more clarification is needed, and a price would be nice, but it is normal these days for them to not put that on until the last minute.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
        Originally Posted by Carlton Johnson View Post

        There are a lot of reasons why he would do this. Diversifying is a great thing. After all, following your train of thought he wouldn't have released SEnuke in the first place, he would have just had it created and then just kept it to himself.
        No. That's not following my train of thought. As you say further down your post, there are a LOT of niches out there, more than we could all compete in. So it's make total business sense for him to offer the software to other marketers. He doesn't lose any of its power, the SEnuke subscription in itself brings him a LOT of money, and we as consumers get access to one hell of a tool without investing to develop the software in the first place. A classic win-win if you ask me. For Detonator, it's not as clear cut to me.

        The Internet is almost infinite in the opportunities to make money. Not everyone is just going to say Clickbank, or CJ to promote things. the opportunites are vast. The chances of us all jumping in on his most luractive niches (which might actually be IM related) are probably quite slim. And even if we did, there are normally a hold myriad of ways to attack any given niche if you think outside the box. So I really don't think he is worried about everyone overtaking him in the search engines, using his own team, or anything like that.

        Believe it or not, there is room for all of us, especially when you take into account that the majority of people will not make any real money at this game (that's just statistics and the way it is.)
        I fail to see where I say otherwise. So relax your high horse attitude. My point was that he knows how to promote and he has a team, so all in all, he should make more money promoting his own stuff than ours, but hey, if it works I won't complain!

        I think this could be a great service but I would need to know more about how many submissions they do a month to different services etc. and a few other things as well. The sales page is a bit vague. When you compare it to things like trafficsage or even doing things through somewhere like lexorsoft, with those sorts of services you know exactly what you are getting in advance, because there is a list of what you will get for your money.

        Currently with detonator I have yet to see a list so even though Joe says it is using the stategy he uses, but at the end of the day at the moment you are being asked to go on faith and he could just be doing one set of submissions a month and that is it.

        Some more clarification is needed, and a price would be nice, but it is normal these days for them to not put that on until the last minute.
        Exactly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
        Hey all,

        Ive been receiving many questions about this offer and was directed to this post and see you guys also have a couple questions. .

        The reason I am offering this service is simple...DEMAND.

        There are many who are in need of such a service and I have been asked countless times by SEnuke members if we offer an outsourcing service. After doing some research I concluded that this a much needed service and the HUGE response we are receiving solidifies that.

        Someone mentioned why I would be giving up my team and my strategy.

        Obviously you are not getting my ENTIRE team...I have to keep a small personal team for my own efforts. However, I have hired and trained a an additional 10 IN HOUSE team members over the past three months who will be running your submissions.

        I am not giving up my personal submission strategy and I dont have any intention to do so anytime soon but my team has been trained to do your promotions using this exact strategy.

        Part of the promotional strategy involves strategic scheduling of SEnuke submissions. We DO NOT simply blast your submissions utilizing all modules of SEnuke at one time. Instead we incorporate a strategic scheduling strategy where we utilize different modules at different times at different frequencies.

        AS for the price...its actually still up in the air at this time but I can tell you that for everything we are offering it will be an awesome deal!

        We are not only providing a strategic submission strategy we are also going to provide you with optimization tips for your website before we begin your submissions. We do this so we can be sure that your money site and your offer will be correctly optimized for the search engines and to help ensure a positive reponse to your offer when the targeted traffic from your submissions start rolling in.

        I hope that answers some of your questions and more details will be made available of the next few days.

        Thanks
        Joe Russell
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        • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
          Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post

          We are not only providing a strategic submission strategy we are also going to provide you with optimization tips for your website before we begin your submissions. We do this so we can be sure that your money site and your offer will be correctly optimized for the search engines and to help ensure a positive reponse to your offer when the targeted traffic from your submissions start rolling in.
          Now that's going beyond what's expected.

          I hope that answers some of your questions and more details will be made available of the next few days.
          I've subscribed to the waiting list earlier. I AM interested. But those "details" are obviously important.

          BTW might I suggest a different price for current and past SEnuke users I too wasn't using it enough to justify the monthly fees, but I do miss using it. It is a great SEO tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by mjwoodi View Post

    Am I been stupid here or is the sale pages missing pricing? I literally cancelled my senuke subscription a week ago because it was to much of a time sink for me so this is perfect.
    That's because it hasn't launched yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Does anyone know how much this costs?
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by terryd View Post

      Does anyone know how much this costs?
      If you look a few posts up you will see that Joe says the cost hasn't been decided 100% yet.

      Originally Posted by Jay Rhome View Post


      So relax your high horse attitude. My point was that he knows how to promote and he has a team, so all in all, he should make more money promoting his own stuff than ours, but hey, if it works I won't complain!

      Exactly.
      Jay, I was a bit annoyed by your reply to begin with, but on looking at my response, I guess my attitude did seem a little "high horse", this was unintentional on my part and even though I misunderstood what you where getting at, I wasn't directing what I was saying at you specifically, even though I was replying to you - my bad.

      I recieved a few more details this morning and there now is a FAQ's section on the sales page which answers a few questions but not all.

      At the end of the day Joe and Areeb at Senuke have always delievered, so I am interested to see this thing rocking and rolling. The price in regards to ROI will be the thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
        I just recieved a FAQ's email about this but of course the most FAQ - the price, has been left out.
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        • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
          Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

          I just recieved a FAQ's email about this but of course the most FAQ - the price, has been left out.
          This is perfectly normal with product launches at the moment. In the same email Joe sent me about the FAQ's I think he mentioned that the price will be revealed soon, so I think we will know more in the next few days.
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          • Profile picture of the author Cornerstone
            As some one said in a previous post you have to have a strategy in place to take advantage of this or any other offer.

            I don't own SeNuke but do use a competing service. Since they both automate the boring tasks of SEO they are great time savers. You can concentrate on finding the niches to promote

            With Senuke Detonator he may be doing the SEO work for you but you still have to come up with ideas to promote. Other wise you will be sending good money down the drain.
            It would be no reflection on the service itself because you would not be taking advantage of it.

            In my opinion though you would be better off getting the actual Senuke program itself and spend some time figuring it out. Then you can outsource the whole process your self

            You would have more control over your own destiny and wouldn't be limited in the number of sites to promote per month.
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            • Profile picture of the author mpx305
              Looks like it's $127.00 a month - probably for one site.
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              • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
                Originally Posted by mpx305 View Post

                Looks like it's $127.00 a month - probably for one site.
                Where are you getting that information?

                That's one of the subscription prices for SENUKE. Are you confusing the two? :confused:

                I still don't see a price on the detonator sales page.
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                • Profile picture of the author mpx305
                  Originally Posted by Carlton Johnson View Post

                  Where are you getting that information?

                  That's one of the subscription prices for SENUKE. Are you confusing the two? :confused:

                  I still don't see a price on the detonator sales page.
                  My bad, you're right, I didn't look closely enougt at it - sorry about that
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  • Profile picture of the author lking316
    I received an email yesterday to sign-up for this service. But I didn't see any pricing listed on the website. Has Joe determined the pricing yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyMcK
    Hey Guys,

    Just recieved a promo email from the creator of Senuke Detonator...He is hosting a live Q&A on his blog at JOERUSSELLdotCA.....Right Now

    I've gone and read some of the questions that have been answered and it really helped clear up alot of my questions...

    So if you're interested in finding out more I hope this is helpful..

    Thanks
    Tony
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyMcK
    Hey Everyone...

    Just got the latest email on SeNuke Detonator about the pricing and launch date.

    single site-$247

    3 sites-$497

    This seems reasonalbe to me for a complete SEO package including senuke submissions by the guy that created it.

    What do you guys think?

    Tony
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    247.00 for one site to create a link wheel, ping the sites and social bookmark them and 2 articles written then spun...........hmmmmmmmmmm
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      247.00 for one site to create a link wheel, ping the sites and social bookmark them and 2 articles written then spun...........hmmmmmmmmmm
      lol..are you serious? I can get a link wheel for $40-$60 (depending on complexity and spokes of course)...and once the wheel is done there are zillions of people who can submit video/articles each month literally for pennies. That price is ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      247.00 for one site to create a link wheel, ping the sites and social bookmark them and 2 articles written then spun...........hmmmmmmmmmm
      You forgot to add video creation and submission There is actually much more to the SEnuke Detonator service than what is mentioned above.

      For starters, the first thing we do is look at your website to make sure that your site is properly optimized and if it isnt we provide detailed instruction on how to make the suggested changes. Having your site fully optimized before promotions begin is actually a requirement to our service and we wont begin promotions till the suggested changes are completed to help ensure that our promotions will produce results.

      I have good reputation and a rather large following in IM and SEO and because of this I need to make certain that you will get the kind of results and rankings we know we can provide.

      As long as your SEO is great we can produce results with our promotional strategies.

      As long as your product and the way it is presented is optimized and has been tested to convert there is no reason why sales shouldnt increase.

      To further help dominate your niche we provide you with info about your competition such as the keywords they are targeting, where their links originate from, which links bring them the most traffic and how you can overtake them in the SERP's.

      As for the promotional strategy itself, we all know how powerful Web 2.0 marketing can be and many of you have most likely read the many success stories from those using SEnuke...its a powerful software and does produce results if you know how to use it properly. Since I helped to create this software you can bet that I know how to use it!

      Your content is submitted to over 180 different Web 2.0 sites and this is only the content submissions. We implement other strategies including deep linking that will increase your backlink count above and beyond the 180 submission. I wont go into too much detail on the other techniques as we do not want to give away the frequency and the scheduling of our strategy.

      We do all of this and a copy of SEnuke is not required!

      If you think the price point is too high I will tell you that we have many established SEO companies who will be purchasing our service to provide promotions to their clients through a white label solution.

      Hope this help to clear up any questions or concerns.


      Joe Russell
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      • Profile picture of the author coolbreeze
        Joe -

        if I do sign up, is there anything else I can do to increase the success of the service? Maybe create and submit more articles and videos for example? Some members above have expressed concern about being able to have more articles or content to submit to help boost the success of their site and the SENuke service.
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        • Profile picture of the author JonathanR
          So if I do my own SE Nuke submissions and subscribe to the Detonator, will there be a conflict? Is it either/or?
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      • Profile picture of the author Dexx
        Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post

        ...If you think the price point is too high I will tell you that we have many established SEO companies who will be purchasing our service to provide promotions to their clients through a white label solution.

        Hope this help to clear up any questions or concerns.


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        Hey Joe, I'm curious about this white label solution that you mentioned.

        So if I wanted to have SENuke Deton. do the SEO for a clients website, what exactly would be the "offer"

        Is it $247.00 for a one time link-wheel blast for one targeted keyword?

        i.e. Chicago Lawyer

        Or would I sign-up to the service, and then each month just state what the link keyword focus would be, and then once it hits Top 10 etc. just send an email for what keyword to focus on next?

        What about multiple keywords needing targeting for multiple clients? Multiple subscriptions or is custom pricing available as needs expand?


        Let me know when ya can,

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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
          Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

          Hey Joe, I'm curious about this white label solution that you mentioned.

          So if I wanted to have SENuke Deton. do the SEO for a clients website, what exactly would be the "offer"

          Is it $247.00 for a one time link-wheel blast for one targeted keyword?

          i.e. Chicago Lawyer

          Or would I sign-up to the service, and then each month just state what the link keyword focus would be, and then once it hits Top 10 etc. just send an email for what keyword to focus on next?

          What about multiple keywords needing targeting for multiple clients? Multiple subscriptions or is custom pricing available as needs expand?


          Let me know when ya can,

          ~Dexx
          Hey Dex,

          Its whole lot more than just a linkwheel blast, its basically a complete SEO and Promotional package but yes you would submit a URL each month that you want to target with your promotions.

          Based on the rankings and competitior analysis report we provide you with you would easily be able to determine which keywords would need or not need further promotion. You would also discover other keywords that are relevant to your niche or market that you could be targeting.

          If you are looking for a white label solution where you would need more than one multisite option (three sites) a deal on pricing can be worked out.

          Unfortunately though SEnuke Detonator is currently sold out but I am going to expand my team to meet the demand and more spots will be available in March.

          Joe
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          • Profile picture of the author niceweb
            I was actually quite interested in this product, until i saw the sales page video. One of the worst i have seen in a while, but it made me giggle.

            The product could still be good tho, just a turnoff for me to see such a low quality video on such an expensive product.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrsrp
    Way over priced.

    Should be three sites for $97/month
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    Looks way overpriced. I think that you can get way cheaper if outsourced to someone else...say from the Philippines...
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by Zeb View Post

      Looks way overpriced. I think that you can get way cheaper if outsourced to someone else...say from the Philippines...

      Cheaper is easier to get. However getting quality and no hassle without having to train people yourself as well as having things done to a proven formula is something else.

      The price point is about what I expected.

      However, I am a bit concerned about only getting 2 articles a month spun and used. I would normally spin more than that when I am going after keywords. I know there is a lot more to what Joe does but it does concern me.

      That said, the proof of the pudding is going to be in the results. Despite what anyone else says and what our own experiences are, none of us have had a peek at Joe's personal strategy (unless someone can tell me different). So we don't really know what results Joe has got in the past from doing his strategy. It may seem miminal to us and like we could get more for our money, but without seeing some of Joe's results, who am I to Judge?

      So, since Joe is someone I respect, and if I decide to put the budget to one side to give his service a try, then maybe I will learn something new about working smarter and not harder.

      That's the way I look at it anyway.

      I like to try a service like this every now and again because occassionally you do learn something new that can transform your business. (but I have a budget put aside to try it, not everyone can afford to take a bit of a risk, which is what it is to some degree, because if you can't afford to lose the money then you could be screwed )

      Anyway, that's my two cents. I personally will not make a judgement because I haven't seen how successful Joe has been using his methods on other sites so even though my current methods seem more aggressive and logic would tell me should achieve better results, I've got to give some trust to the the guy that helped invent the SENuke software and who probably tests and uses it constantly and who probably knows how to get a lot better results from it than me.

      If you have or can get a hold of the money, then price is not the issue - ROI and results are.
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      • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
        Sorry me again.

        One very important thing I just remembered is that with all the services like this (such as trafficsage etc) personally I would make sure I have a website that converts first.

        It doesn't matter if detonator helps you get 100,000 more visitors a month, if your website doesn't convert into cash in the bank, then you are wasting your money.

        However, I think Joe says his team can give you a hand with that to make sure you have things set up right (but don't quote me on that).

        Just thought I would add that because it is crucial - visitors without conversion is useless (unless you are not in this to make money).
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  • Profile picture of the author allaboutthebenjis
    Detonator launched early this month and I know it might take a couple of weeks to see results, but can anybody who bought the service chime in on what's happened with your campaigns so far or what they've been doing?
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    • Profile picture of the author pvclark
      I gave the guys at Senuke Detonator a highly reseached (search to competition) keyword list and I'm following these for my URL to a search depth of 'top 1000' - so far not a thing.

      There's been no communication for 2 weeks now. I'm trusting that they're doing their thing which should become clearer in the end of month report, when I will want to see some evidence.

      Jury is still out.
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      • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
        same here... ive not seen anything yet and I use several types of social media and other monitoring tools. Nothing has been found.

        I really want this service to work as advertised, so fingers crossed that they have been quiet because they've been busy working on our submissions, so much that they are going to over deliver... wouldn't that be nice.

        however, i am getting a bit worried. sort of surprised by the lack of communication from them. I also remember they said a forum would be set up but that never materialized.

        few more days to go then we'll see what they've done. I just hope they give us links to all the submissions they've done so we'll get a chance to see the quality of their work.
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        • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
          Originally Posted by charlesjr View Post

          same here... ive not seen anything yet and I use several types of social media and other monitoring tools. Nothing has been found.

          I really want this service to work as advertised, so fingers crossed that they have been quiet because they've been busy working on our submissions, so much that they are going to over deliver... wouldn't that be nice.

          however, i am getting a bit worried. sort of surprised by the lack of communication from them. I also remember they said a forum would be set up but that never materialized.

          few more days to go then we'll see what they've done. I just hope they give us links to all the submissions they've done so we'll get a chance to see the quality of their work.
          I am in the same boat as you guys. I haven't seen a single backlink show up yet.

          I delibrately gave them a fairly new domain that I haven't done any promotion on (apart from about 6 ezine articles) so that I can see clearly what they are doing and so that it isn't confused with my own promotions. I will be interested to see my report at the end of the month.

          In regards to the forum, I think what Joe said is that you would have access to the SEnuke forum. I don't think he said a whole different forum would be set up. But don't quote me on it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
            Hey guys,

            There has been three member updates sent since a couple days after launch and another is scheduled for today...please check your SPAM/Junk Email folder to see if thats where they ended up.

            All SEO and ranking reports have been sent and all promotions are currently running, if you havent received these reports please open a helpdesk ticket in the members area and we will get them right out to you.

            We have had a couple issues we have had to deal with which has caused some delays and this will be explained in the members update going out later today.

            Because of these issues we are going to compensate with something I am sure you will find to be way beyond over delivering!

            For those of you who didnt get in on launch we will still be accepting new members on March 2nd.

            Joe Russell
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            • Profile picture of the author Airsoft guy
              What is the Price for this service I know it is sold out but what is the monthly fee??
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              • Profile picture of the author BillM
                I am not very pleased.... We paid $497, and nothing has been completed.... I predict mass charge backs with the way they are trying to get more money and never completing us guinea pigs work first.
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                • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
                  Originally Posted by BillM View Post

                  I am not very pleased.... We paid $497, and nothing has been completed.... I predict mass charge backs with the way they are trying to get more money and never completing us guinea pigs work first.
                  Hi Bill, I have admitted that we had a few issues the first month that caused delays in promotions. However, because of this I have compensated by giving all paid members one month free promotion for March as you are aware of.

                  We have had only 8 refund requests out of 300 subscriptions and have honored every one of those.

                  If your wondering how we can offer spots for March when all promotions for Feb have not been completed let me explain cause its really quite simple.

                  As mentioned in the members email the issues we experienced delayed promotions for about 5 to 7 days and that all members promotions for Febuary will be completed no later than March 7th and they will be.

                  Your content for March has already been created and for some members March promotions has already begun.

                  The new members we received yesterday and today are currently having their content and reports created and in two days (March 7th)their promotions will begin.

                  By April 2nd everyones promotions will be completed on schedule.

                  Now just to let you know, your not doing business with someone whos only source of income is offering products and services to other Internet Marketers.

                  One of my companies provides SEO services, marketing services and consulting to large corporations and small businesses of which we have many satisfied clients and have worked hard to gain a solid reputation in this field. So basically if I dont produce results my reputation will suffer.

                  I know my onsite and offsite SEO strategies work and produce results or my company wouldnt have the many satisfied clients it has and I wouldnt be making the money I do in my own affiliate and niche marketing efforts but my strategy producing results isnt the issue at the moment. The issue is in the delay of promotions and I beleive I have explained this and have compensated accordingly.

                  Besides the form issues we experienced, the first month was extremely hectic. As you can imagine we ran into a few glitches and hiccups during the first month as our system for creating content and performing submissions for such a large number of members(over 700 sites)was basically untested but it wasnt anything that we couldnt overcome and tweak into a better running machine. From this month onward everything should work like clockwork!

                  Joe Russell
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                  • Profile picture of the author tex001
                    Hi Joe,

                    It's Tex here.

                    I have subscribed to Senuke on and off about 2 times and it has always been because there is a bit of a learning curve with using Senuke and so I would email your support dept for assistance, however no one in your support dept ever got back to me - not even once!

                    I saw this Senuke Detonator service that you launched and thought that this might be for me seeing as it is a "Done For You" service. I therefore sent you a PM (12th Feb 2010) about 3 weeks ago and asked you a couple of questions as I wanted to get on board when you relaunched on 2nd March 2010. However, as usual I have had NO reply to my PM.

                    The only thing I have received from your company was an automated email broadcast you sent out directing me to the Senuke Detonator signup page a couple of days ago.

                    If no one ever replies to members when they PM you or submit support tickets it does not really fill me with confidence to use either Senuke or Senuke Detonator. I don't know if I am the only one that has experienced this lack of customer support from your company but I would be very surprised if I am.

                    Regards

                    Tex
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                    • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
                      Originally Posted by tex001 View Post

                      Hi Joe,

                      It's Tex here.

                      I have subscribed to Senuke on and off about 2 times and it has always been because there is a bit of a learning curve with using Senuke and so I would email your support dept for assistance, however no one in your support dept ever got back to me - not even once!

                      I saw this Senuke Detonator service that you launched and thought that this might be for me seeing as it is a "Done For You" service. I therefore sent you a PM (12th Feb 2010) about 3 weeks ago and asked you a couple of questions as I wanted to get on board when you relaunched on 2nd March 2010. However, as usual I have had NO reply to my PM.

                      The only thing I have received from your company was an automated email broadcast you sent out directing me to the Senuke Detonator signup page a couple of days ago.

                      If no one ever replies to members when they PM you or submit support tickets it does not really fill me with confidence to use either Senuke or Senuke Detonator. I don't know if I am the only one that has experienced this lack of customer support from your company but I would be very surprised if I am.

                      Regards

                      Tex
                      Hi Tex, if you opened a support ticket from within the members area I can assure you that it was replied to within 48 hours as we answer every support ticket that comes our way just as with SEnuke unless we are totally swamped with support questions. Please check your SPAM or junk email to see if the reply ended up there.

                      If your trying to PM me here I can assure you that it wont receive a timely response as I dont visit the WF very often.


                      Joe Russell
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                  • Profile picture of the author BillM
                    Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post

                    Hi Bill, I have admitted that we had a few issues the first month that caused delays in promotions. However, because of this I have compensated by giving all paid members one month free promotion for March as you are aware of.

                    We have had only 8 refund requests out of 300 subscriptions and have honored every one of those.

                    If your wondering how we can offer spots for March when all promotions for Feb have not been completed let me explain cause its really quite simple.

                    As mentioned in the members email the issues we experienced delayed promotions for about 5 to 7 days and that all members promotions for Febuary will be completed no later than March 7th and they will be.

                    Your content for March has already been created and for some members March promotions has already begun.

                    The new members we received yesterday and today are currently having their content and reports created and in two days (March 7th)their promotions will begin.

                    By April 2nd everyones promotions will be completed on schedule.

                    Now just to let you know, your not doing business with someone whos only source of income is offering products and services to other Internet Marketers.

                    One of my companies provides SEO services, marketing services and consulting to large corporations and small businesses of which we have many satisfied clients and have worked hard to gain a solid reputation in this field. So basically if I dont produce results my reputation will suffer.

                    I know my onsite and offsite SEO strategies work and produce results or my company wouldnt have the many satisfied clients it has and I wouldnt be making the money I do in my own affiliate and niche marketing efforts but my strategy producing results isnt the issue at the moment. The issue is in the delay of promotions and I beleive I have explained this and have compensated accordingly.

                    Besides the form issues we experienced, the first month was extremely hectic. As you can imagine we ran into a few glitches and hiccups during the first month as our system for creating content and performing submissions for such a large number of members(over 700 sites)was basically untested but it wasnt anything that we couldnt overcome and tweak into a better running machine. From this month onward everything should work like clockwork!

                    Joe Russell
                    A refund is a cop out and we are not looking for one. But facts are facts.... You just promised that anyone who just paid would be finished by March 7th, as well as ours from Feb, which here we are on the 8th and still nadda....

                    What are we to do?? Have faith?? So far not one paid for promotion date was met.

                    Anyone can google their url and see nadda.

                    Very concerned,

                    Bill
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            • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
              Originally Posted by Joe Russell View Post


              Hey guys,

              There has been three member updates sent since a couple days after launch and another is scheduled for today...please check your SPAM/Junk Email folder to see if thats where they ended up.

              All SEO and ranking reports have been sent and all promotions are currently running, if you havent received these reports please open a helpdesk ticket in the members area and we will get them right out to you.

              We have had a couple issues we have had to deal with which has caused some delays and this will be explained in the members update going out later today.

              Because of these issues we are going to compensate with something I am sure you will find to be way beyond over delivering!

              For those of you who didnt get in on launch we will still be accepting new members on March 2nd.
              Joe,

              I must admit, that I have not been blown away by Detonator so far, I wasn't expecting the earth to move, but I was expecting a least a little tremor or two; in that vain I was curious to see what compensation you would be offering.

              I have received the message and I am very happy with it. I have nothing to lose in giving you guys a chance to prove what you can do.

              Fingers crossed.

              Airsoft guy - the price for a single site promotion is $247 and a multisite (which I think is 3 sites) is $497 - or at least these where the prices at launch, they might change for the next round, - who knows...


              ~ Carlton
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              • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
                Hi Joe,

                I'm also pleased with the email I received today. However, that still doesn't solve the issue with not seeing any activity. Per my previous post, I use several different types of brand monitoring tools, and I've not seen anything other than a single Mister Wong bookmark, which was done a few days ago. I also do have some concerns about how your team did the bookmark, but I wont share them on a public forum, I'll raise a ticket with your support team. I really want this service to be a success, so the last thing I want to do is use this as a place to complain.

                I understand there were some issues, and since it was the first month, it's to be expected, but it puts me in a difficult position because if you indeed open up memberships in early March, I dont know if I should purchase another subscription or wait until I see the results from the first one?

                Charles
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
    Hi,

    Has anyone see any movement with their sites? Or perhaps received their submission reports? I know the last email said that most customers would have their submissions completed by March 2, so maybe I'm just being impatient.

    If anyone has seen movement with their sites, or perhaps links to the work that was done, I'd love to hear it.

    So far I've only seen one Mister Wong bookmark, so either they are still working on the submissions for my site, or they are very very good and flying deep deep under the radar with their work.

    Charles
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    • Profile picture of the author pvclark
      I got a mail from Joe this morning saying that the doors were open again to a limited number of new members....for those who missed out first time around - 'but what exactly have they missed out?', is my question.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by charlesjr View Post

      Hi,

      Has anyone see any movement with their sites? Or perhaps received their submission reports? I know the last email said that most customers would have their submissions completed by March 2, so maybe I'm just being impatient.

      If anyone has seen movement with their sites, or perhaps links to the work that was done, I'd love to hear it.

      So far I've only seen one Mister Wong bookmark, so either they are still working on the submissions for my site, or they are very very good and flying deep deep under the radar with their work.

      Charles
      I am not sure if it was the 2nd or the 5th of March that Joe said we would have our reports back by; either way I agree there must me some serious under cover deep deep under the radar work going on because I have yet to see a thing.

      Originally Posted by pvclark View Post

      I got a mail from Joe this morning saying that the doors were open again to a limited number of new members....for those who missed out first time around - 'but what exactly have they missed out?', is my question.
      Hmm, I am beginning to think the same. Personally I think Joe should have held off in opening up the doors again until he had recieved satisfactory reports on how things are running at the moment.

      But, may be he has. May be lots of people have reported to him that their rankings have improved and they can see all the backlinks and work his team are doing and how much their traffic has increased.

      If that is the case I wish that some of those people would post on this thread, because I have been mainly positive throughout this thread, but I can switch very quickly if I am not getting the service I expect, and all I hear is excuse after excuse. But I am not quite at the switching stage yet.

      Anyway, let me give it a few more days, look at the reports and see exactly what is going on.
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      • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
        Thanks guys for your comments. It's nice to know there are others out there besides me feeling the same way.

        In regards to the email Joe sent out, it said,

        "All current promotions for Febuary will be completed
        no later than March 7th and you free months promotions
        will begin March 2nd, don't worry we have allowed for
        the overlap as most members will be completed by the
        2nd."

        Thats why I posted my question today, since according to his email, most of us would have had our promotions completed for Feb by March 2nd per the last sentence above.

        I also agree that I wish they would have held off on opening the doors until those of us who were the first to "beta test" this have not yet received anything other than a few emails.

        I've been very positive as well this past month, but my patience is starting to wear thin. How does that saying go? You fool me once, shame on you, you fool me twice, shame on me... something like that..
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      • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
        I signed up for the 7-day trial for the first seonuke to see how it compares to Traffic Kuhuna. BUT, I wouldn't expect any 1st to 3rd page results unless your sites are properly listed in all the directories for local business search, Google Maps and Video, Buzz, all of them.

        No matter how many links, backwards, forewards, pages, content with pretty optimized pictures with every alt tag perfectly in place, it doesn't matter.

        You WILL get bumped to page ?8 if there is a LOCAL Business listed in the same category - and I think you can choose 10 and even custom categories too.

        The 10-box is now a 7-Box with Video taking up the added space.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    This is what I get for 127.00 per site, 10 days till finish.

    15 2.0 sites 4X
    4 original articles used (created) by them, 4 keywords, this forms 4 wheels
    25 high profile links to each wheel
    submission to 8 directorys for each wheel
    96 social bookmarks spread across the 60 2.0 sites
    18 submissions to RSS feed sites 4X

    The wheel is designed as a main hub , 3 feed wheels
    All passwords to control sites
    Everything pinged

    Value
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    • Profile picture of the author allaboutthebenjis
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      This is what I get for 127.00 per site, 10 days till finish.

      15 2.0 sites 4X
      4 original articles used (created) by them, 4 keywords, this forms 4 wheels
      25 high profile links to each wheel
      submission to 8 directorys for each wheel
      96 social bookmarks spread across the 60 2.0 sites
      18 submissions to RSS feed sites 4X

      The wheel is designed as a main hub , 3 feed wheels
      All passwords to control sites
      Everything pinged

      Value
      $127, are you referring to using the software yourself because Detonator is $247/mo. for one site and $497/mo. for three?

      Just a question, for all what you get, do yall think it's worth that amount as compared to other outsourcing services or WSO's offered by others here? Not trying to bash, just trying to compare and get the most bang for the buck.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    No that is outsourced , to much time in that.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
    Just so you all know, I received an email from Joe Russell. It seems we WILL NOT get a submission report for the month of Feb. Not sure what that means, because I would have loved to see what was done in Feb, so I guess we will all have to judge the quality of their work at the end of March. Cant wait until the end of March when I finally do see the submission report. I really want to know what they did in Feb.

    I had promised someone the submission report this week, so now I gotta figure out an excuse why they wont get it until end of March/early April.

    I really wish they would have sent them out because I still don't know if I should sign up for another spot when they open this week. No idea what was done in Feb.

    Hopefully they'll send out another update soon.

    Charles
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
      Originally Posted by charlesjr View Post

      Just so you all know, I received an email from Joe Russell. It seems we WILL NOT get a submission report for the month of Feb. Not sure what that means, because I would have loved to see what was done in Feb, so I guess we will all have to judge the quality of their work at the end of March. Cant wait until the end of March when I finally do see the submission report. I really want to know what they did in Feb.

      I had promised someone the submission report this week, so now I gotta figure out an excuse why they wont get it until end of March/early April.

      I really wish they would have sent them out because I still don't know if I should sign up for another spot when they open this week. No idea what was done in Feb.

      Hopefully they'll send out another update soon.

      Charles
      Charles, sorry but I may have not worded that email correctly as everyone will be receiving their Feb submission reports but will not receive the rankings report until the end of March.

      As you know we had some issues when we launched in Feb which is the reason we offered current paid members one free month of promotions for March.

      These issues have now been dealt with and everything will be working like clockwork during March and onward.

      You never have to worry about getting your value from any of the products or services I offer as I stand behind them 100%. If I ever screw up so somehow I cant deliver, I will always make it right.

      Joe Russell
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      • Profile picture of the author BillM
        How can you begin March's promotions when Feb was not produced yet? Senuke has always been a winner, but this as not been up to snuff so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author petegallagher
    great

    you are all making me worry now. it sounds great, but will it get done. i wont trust it unless i get a report. i just signed up there. from readin the posts, do you have to sign up every month? as in rush to get in there every month? is this not a subscription? dont know if i can be bothered with that.

    will keep posted as i sent them a lengthy email on varius aspects about this months payment and what i will get.
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    I also wish to state my concern, a delay is one thing but we are well over a month late and each time we are given a date that it will be finished we get nothing. To make matters worse the service has opened up again to allow more people in without finishing the ones that have already paid!. The service should have remained closed until all the bugs have been worked out. Seems like the primary concern is how much new revenue can be brought in as opposed to how to best help the members who have already completed payment over a month ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
      Ok, this is the last time I will be replying to any posts in this thread, if you have any concerns please contact us via the helpdesk in the members area if you are seeking a response.

      First off, SEnuke Detonator is a new business and as with most any new business there will be growing pains and we did have our share of those which at the risk of repeating myself is why we gave members one free month of promotions.

      No one is losing out on anything but instead gaining an extra month of promotions because of the issues we experienced. In my opinion this is more than adequate to make up for what wasn't completed in February.

      Submission reports are now being created and will be sent out this week as they are completed. We have over 700 websites we are creating these submission reports for and because we just finished promotions for February yesterday (yes one day late than what I promised) it takes time to generate all these reports. We are on schedule to finish ALL members promotions for March on time and this includes new and existing members.

      I'm not making excuses and I have explained numerous times the reason for the delay...just sit tight and you will receive everything you paid for and then some and I am sure you will be happy with the results.

      For Bill M, you should be quite happy when you receive your reports as one of your sites that you had us promote is now on the first page of Google AND Yahoo up from a 30+ position for your main keyword.

      Bill is not the only one experiencing these great results as we do have plenty of satisfied members who are happy with the promotions thus far.

      Thanks
      Joe Russell
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
    Has anyone received their submission reports?

    According to Joe's last post on March 9, he said, "Submission reports are now being created and will be sent out this week as they are completed."

    However, it's now Saturday, and I've received nothing. The only thing they seem to be able to do consistently, is MISS every deadline they promise their customers.

    Very Frustrated,

    Charles
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    • Profile picture of the author BillM
      Originally Posted by charlesjr View Post

      Has anyone received their submission reports?

      According to Joe's last post on March 9, he said, "Submission reports are now being created and will be sent out this week as they are completed."

      However, it's now Saturday, and I've received nothing. The only thing they seem to be able to do consistently, is MISS every deadline they promise their customers.

      Very Frustrated,

      Charles
      I still have not received my reports which are overdue and I want to see them to confirm work on all 3 of my sites.

      With that said, I did get a response to a support ticket on one of my sites that they are working, and as I write this it is #1 on google for the my keyword. Now it has been there before, but I do feel that the current results are positive and because of Senuke new program.

      Once I get the reports and results I will post my review. But for now I am giving a 2 thumbs up.

      Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author TheShark
        Has anyone received their reports for February work?

        I did the multi-site package. I signed up for February.

        As of today, I've only seen a small amount of work (4 links and 3 appear to be on the same URL, so I think google only counts that as one) , and they are dated March 8th & 9th, not one thing from February for any of the 3 sites, and only a little work I just wrote about for one site in March.

        I can not find any of the videos promised and no links at all for the other two sites.

        When I requested information about a week ago I was promised the submission reports within 48 hours (didn't happen). As of now I have received none.

        They have told us not to work on any off site SEO so it does't mess up theirs...so now I'm stuck unable to promote the sites, but it appears they are not doing anything.

        Is anyone having any better luck? Am I the exception or the rule? I want it to work, but feeling discouraged with the company, seems all promise and no substance.

        The Shark
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        • Profile picture of the author BillM
          Originally Posted by TheShark View Post

          Has anyone received their reports for February work?

          I did the multi-site package. I signed up for February.

          As of today, I've only seen a small amount of work (4 links and 3 appear to be on the same URL, so I think google only counts that as one) , and they are dated March 8th & 9th, not one thing from February for any of the 3 sites, and only a little work I just wrote about for one site in March.

          I can not find any of the videos promised and no links at all for the other two sites.

          When I requested information about a week ago I was promised the submission reports within 48 hours (didn't happen). As of now I have received none.

          They have told us not to work on any off site SEO so it does't mess up theirs...so now I'm stuck unable to promote the sites, but it appears they are not doing anything.

          Is anyone having any better luck? Am I the exception or the rule? I want it to work, but feeling discouraged with the company, seems all promise and no substance.

          The Shark
          I wanted to support them very much, but you may be correct. I still have no videos, no reports and now my support tickets are not even being answered. I signed up very early and it they came through, I would used every month. I am sure they are at risk with their merchant account from refund request.

          Joe has nothing to be upset with our concerns, no promises were met with total work.

          Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
    Hi Guys,

    I've thrown in the towel. I'm in the same boat as MrShark. I've held off various SEO campaigns, and have not seen much of anything.

    Really disappointed by the whole experience.

    Good luck to everyone who is still holding out hope.

    Charles
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by charlesjr View Post

      Hi Guys,

      I've thrown in the towel. I'm in the same boat as MrShark. I've held off various SEO campaigns, and have not seen much of anything.

      Really disappointed by the whole experience.

      Good luck to everyone who is still holding out hope.

      Charles
      Yep, I am also very disappointed.

      To be honest I am shocked at the whole experience and I would have expected the guys behind Senuke to do much better. This is not the way to run an outsourcing service. And yep, I still have not received my Feb' report either.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenrick C
        Originally Posted by Carlton Johnson View Post

        Yep, I am also very disappointed.

        To be honest I am shocked at the whole experience and I would have expected the guys behind Senuke to do much better. This is not the way to run an outsourcing service. And yep, I still have not received my Feb' report either.
        I have not received my February report as well and my main keyword for the SENuke Detonator service is not in the top 40 of Google.

        I have a keyword for another site with the same monthly search volume in the top 20 of Google within 3 months and I am not a SEO expert.

        However, I will wait until the end of March to see if I will receive my reports and if Joe "can make it right," as he mentioned in his previous post.

        I hope afterwards I will not experience this type of service again.
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        • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
          Ok, this is getting a bit over the top, and I'm losing my patience, so I want to vent some frustration here.

          I received what the SENukeDetonator guys are calling a submission report. However, it looks like they don't even know how to email us the URLs of the work they did.

          Here is a direct quote from their email.
          "Attached is your first submission report for February promotions. All URLs listed are to the backlinks that were created for you. Video URLs are not listed as we do not use the SEnuke video module for video submissions and the software we do use does not provide us with the URLs for these submissions however we are working on way to provide these URLs to you.

          Other backlinks have also been created using our deep linking strategy that will not show in the submission report because of the process used to create these links. Again, we are working on a solution to provide you with these backlink URL's as well.
          Ok, so let me try to understand what is going on here. They sold us a service, promised us the moon, and now it turns out they have NO IDEA how to provide us the URLS for the majority of the work, such as videos?????

          I'm at a total loss of words.

          BTW, the URLS I did get, were mainly simple bookmarks at places such as Mister Wong. Most of them, if not all of them done in March. They also chose wrong categories for some of the articles, that do not relate to my keyword.

          So what did we pay for? $297 USD for repeated broken promises, missed deadlines, etc. It's easy to say, "you will all get a free month!" but that doesnt mean anything if they cant even do the work as promised. I'm especially furious how after 2 months, they still cant figure out how to send the URLS of the videos and backlinks. This is absurd. How do you start a business where you promise your customers something, yet you have no idea how you are going to deliver it??





          Charles
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          • Profile picture of the author niceweb
            Wow, that sounds terrible. Hope it works out for you buddy. Such an expensive system should minimum have detailed reports.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kenrick C
            Charles if you do not mind me asking, did the Google rank for your keywords (you submitted to SENuke Detonator) increase tremendously?
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          • Profile picture of the author BillM
            There are no videos, this was a big waste and big fail.... I got my money back but it still stinks with all the time and projected revenue lost. I tired so hard to take the high road, but they lied every turn and did not keep one advertised promise.

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          • Profile picture of the author pvclark
            Do you think the guys over at SE NUke Detonator will drop a note inviting us to resubscribe for April?
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  • Profile picture of the author babywarrior
    Tried them out at the beginning of the month. Giving them the benefit of doubt till the end of the month. Will give you guys a review soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author allaboutthebenjis
    What's the latest?
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    • Profile picture of the author charlesjr
      Not sure.. I haven't seen anything yet. Even though I was issued a refund, I was told I would still get my submission reports, which I sort of got minus a big part of it such as the videos, because they said they don't know how to send over the links..?? huh?? no idea how you can have a service and not even know how you are going to provide the deliverables to your customer?

      this entire program was completely mishandled and I think safe to say, a complete 100%, disaster.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by allaboutthebenjis View Post

      What's the latest?
      Got an email on the 6th of this month, saying to make sure I am signed up for this month because they have limited spaces.

      I politely replied that I hadn't even received my report for last month yet so how do they expect me to sign up for this month.

      I haven't heard anything back since then.

      Yes, this was a complete shambles from start to finish and I feel like an idiot for being so positive at the beginning of this thread. But hey, you live and you learn.

      Even if someone has a good product behind them (i.e. SENuke) I will think twice about assuming their next product will be any good and especially before trying to convince others to have an open mind on it.

      There's me sticking up for "Detonator" and they don't even have the courtesy to send reports on time or reply to messages in a timely manner (well at the beginning messages where replied to reasonably swiftly, but forget about it now).

      Seriously, there are many other services out there, this one is not recommended, well not by me anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author pvclark
        If you have any sense of humour left and you would like a laugh, ask Joe for a copy of the video they produced for your site.
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      • Profile picture of the author BillM
        Originally Posted by Carlton Johnson View Post

        Got an email on the 6th of this month, saying to make sure I am signed up for this month because they have limited spaces.

        I politely replied that I hadn't even received my report for last month yet so how do they expect me to sign up for this month.

        I haven't heard anything back since then.

        Yes, this was a complete shambles from start to finish and I feel like an idiot for being so positive at the beginning of this thread. But hey, you live and you learn.

        Even if someone has a good product behind them (i.e. SENuke) I will think twice about assuming their next product will be any good and especially before trying to convince others to have an open mind on it.

        There's me sticking up for "Detonator" and they don't even have the courtesy to send reports on time or reply to messages in a timely manner (well at the beginning messages where replied to reasonably swiftly, but forget about it now).

        Seriously, there are many other services out there, this one is not recommended, well not by me anyway.
        I would love to stick up for them as well, but enough already. I have put up with their BS for months now, just wasting time and losing money.

        Why should we show all this respect for Joe? If it was some other company, many would torch them here. It's not right, and I gave them one last chance.

        I want what was promised....

        Share your results, protect other Warriors....

        Bill
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        • Profile picture of the author tonybips
          OK, I just registered here so I could share my experiences with you and hopefully give some others a heads up on exactly how poor this service is.

          I missed out on February due to being in the UK and it being launched at silly-o'clock in the morning and being sold out by the time i woke up...reading this board I feel quite glad that I did. However, the offer of "standing by my product" and "100% refund guarantee" combined with Joes hostory in the industry persuaded me to hang on until Marchs window opened and sign up at that point.

          So, I sign up in March....then as advertised on their site i decide that i actually want to run 3 sites not 1 in the programme. Their support says you cant upgrade you have to cancel and start a whole new subscription, so I ditched that idea (SOOOOO glad I did). The only other communication I had was a system generated report which says whats good and bad about your site SEO wise. Incidentally, if you gooogle SEO PowerSuite and download their free trials you get reports for free which tell you pretty much the same if not more info.

          Anyway, fast forward to the start of this month, and 76 hours after I had an email saying the report would be with me in 24 hours I finally received a report with what links had been built over the preceding month. In a nutshell, there were around 40 links built, then boosted with rss feeds. To put into context just HOW unacceptable this is, on a different seo project (for transparency I have had both SEO projects for the same amount of time, conducted identical promotion prior to this starting, and both have a similar number of pages, pages indexed and similar competetiveness keywords - not exactly like for like but as close as I could I make it) my wife has been conducting activities in the last month.

          She uses Pauls and Angelas links, logs in and submits the details. In the last month she has probably spent 5-6 hours doing this. I have a free (or very cheap, cant remember tbh) tool called backlink booster which does the rss boosting activity on my pc. She has clicked that link each time she has built a link. This has been done whilst watching TV and if I was charging out for her services I would probably have charged maybe $100, add in Pauls and Angelas link list costs, you are talking $175 max for the month. She is also a novice, so given time this cost would come down.

          The site SEOND promoted during said month, for the keywords they were given stayed completely static or FELL. Other (less competetive) keyuwords have similarly staid completely static or fallen slightly. The site my wife promoted, all 5 keywords (similar competetiveness level) rose, 3 of them into the top 10. At the same time over 100 other (less competetive) keywords leapt into the top 10 with 17 first places.

          Put aside the lousy communication, the very poor customer service and the really annoying inability to hit deadlines. Just measure this service on results, and yes I know that one month is a short time to see any kind of results from a programme like this, but these are both established sites and normally putting a couple of decent links in will boost serps very quickly. Judging purely by results, it doesnt work. Judging by volume, the fee is extortionate. Judging by service its a joke.

          So, just in case you were still on the fence about this service I really really hope this post gives you that little bit of hesitation that will keep you money safe.

          Incidentally I asked for a refund on Thursday last week and still have no reply. This morning I opened PayPal disputes for both payments (yes they took Aprils payment before even sending me Marchs report) but as its a service I dont hold out too much hope of PayPal backing me.

          [on a diffferent note as a seller if its a service PayPal always award against me as I cant prove delivery, as a buyer when its a service they ALSO award against me saying they dont cover service chargebacks....go figure]
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  • Profile picture of the author leiden
    They, did not delivered what was promised; they are not willing to issue a refund; and now they are not replying to e-mails/tickets...

    But... they are now accepting new orders for April... ridiculous....
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  • Profile picture of the author fypnlp
    oh dear! glad I didn't bother!
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  • Profile picture of the author adamhtx
    I signed up for this forum simply because of this thread.

    I like most of you signed up for SENuke Detonator and will be cancelling with them today. I signed up with the 3 site deal and got jerked around with the resigning up process and the continual late reports. I have sent them message after message on their HelpDesk and have heard nothing back. I looked at the reports and it is a joke. I've taken a look at the traffic reports and rankings of our sites and NONE of it has changed.

    It is sad to see how much Russel is ruining his reputation as the expert with SENuke. What's more sad is I had been using SENuke on one of my personal sites while paying for them to do 3 other sites (my own little test if you will of the cost-effectiveness). It's amazing how the results I was getting from my own keyword research and using SENuke was better than what they were doing with the same level of keyword research. HORRIBLE!

    So I thought I'd sign up and share my experience and make sure no one invests their money into this. Waste of money!!

    Although I've wasted a considerable amount of money with nothing to show for it, I do feel a bit inspired, but I'd like some feedback.

    With the results I've been getting from my own efforts, I'd like to try to offer a comparable service. One that meets its promises. But before I go ahead and start putting money into the idea, I'd like to know if anyone is interested?

    I've got everything on paper and I just need a few PMs expressing interest to get me started. I don't imagine I'll be taking 300+ clients but I'll be starting with 10-15.
    More details will come when I've got most of it in place.

    It may be a bit more expensive than what you paid with Russell BUT, it will meet it's promises. I won't sell you BS.

    Shoot me a PM if you'd be interested. I'll post a topic in the proper place one I've got it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doctore
    I'm with you 100%... SENukeDetonator was a huge letdown.. I cant believe they are still offering their service to people..

    In addition, I saw a similar effect on my sites.. my rankings actually dropped from some keywords.. and the one video I did see that was created was a joke.. they added techno type music to it even though I offer a service to businesses.. im sorry but my target market is not into techno music.

    I really wish this service was executed as we all hoped it would. It's too bad that they completely let everyone down.

    I personally will never buy another product from those guys.

    In regards to your venture.. it sounds interesting. PM me with details if/when you do launch it.
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  • Profile picture of the author allaboutthebenjis
    Any news on anyone getting results with Detonator? I just got an email today of them reopening their doors for June.
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  • Profile picture of the author VictoriaXavier
    thanks all for helpful discussion
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  • Profile picture of the author Profolegy
    Gee - to think I was going to sign up today for senuke, now seeing what trouble people have had with the Detonator I have changed my mind.
    Its amazing how bad will linger longer than the good.

    Any way Ive changed my mind on becoming a wealthy internet marketer ill just stay being
    a happy internet marketer - just plodding away doing my own thing.
    Well must shoot off and make some software...............
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
      At the risk of sounding repetitive here's the situation.

      We launched Detonator in February after months of planning and investment but unfortunatley we ran into many issues that caused delays with members promotions during that first month and part of March.

      We had quite a few unhappy members because of the delays and some members promotions were not completed because of these issues. However, we did make amends by offering one free month of service and also issued refunds to those whos promotions were not completed. We even issued refunds to members who were not happy with their results during that period.

      Since then we have resolved all issues and have been running promotions for hundreds of members a month with no issues and with members seeing varying success but the majority are seeing outstanding results...we even have a few video testimonials we will be adding to the sales page soon.

      The easy thing to do would have been to close the Detonator service but I dont give up and I knew that because of the demand that the service is viable we just needed to resolve all issues and make it work.

      It took a lot of dedication from myself and my team to bring what was a near disaster into a successful operation. Today, the Detonator service is running smoother than ever...I have even expanded the team to take on more members to meet the demand.

      Plans are also in the works to expand the Detonator service to include full SEO training, SEnuke/SEnukeX step by step training using my submission strategies as well as other cool stuff that will take SEnuke Detonator to greater levels.

      As mentioned before, I am not one to give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of trouble...thats too easy and I never take the easy way out. As a successful business man and entrepreneur I am no stranger to failure...hell, if it wasnt for failure I probablly would not have found success in my life.

      So yeah, we have had our problems in the past which has resulted in some negative comments and reviews, eventually positive testimonials and reviews will overshadow the negative as we move forward.

      I really wish I could offer a no questions asked money back guarantee but we would open ourselves up to those who would take advantage of such an offer and yes it does happen.

      There are also just too many variables involved in obtaining top rankings for your keyword that would make a no questions asked refund policy not possible such as:

      -Your keywords competition
      If you are trying to get a top ten position for "golf clubs" its not going to happen any time soon.

      -How well your site is optimized for that keyword
      If your site isnt properly optimized for your keyword all the promotion in the world isnt going to help you achive top 10 rankings. As long as you make the suggested changes outlined in the provided SEO report of your site this shouldnt be an issue.

      -Your past promotions
      If your past promotions has resulted in your site getting sandboxed or de-indexed it will take more promotional effort.


      However, I will make you this promise keeping the above in mind.

      If you fail to see ANY positive results within a reasonable time after your promotions are completed (10 to 14 days) we will look at your individual case to see why positive results were not achieved and do what we can to come to an ammicable resolution.


      Thanks for listening
      Joe Russell
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  • Profile picture of the author Doctore
    Hi Joe,

    Count me as one of your past customers who was extremely dissatisfied with the service the first time around. However, I really do appreciate you opening up a bit and explaining what really happened the last time, and how you persevered to make things right.

    I'm going to sign up and give it another shot. I really believe the Detonator service could be a fantastic service if done right, and based on your most recent post, it seems you have everything on track now.
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    • Profile picture of the author daniellim
      Joe, can you provide more details of the coming up enhancement such as the SENUKE/SENUKEX training using your submission strategies?

      I've been with the service for 3 months, but I have to admit, the service and results are way out of my expectation from the creator of the software...ranking drops in the begining, no improvement after coming back, and not to mention the poorly organized reports! I'm actually considering to cancel my service after this month, but would like to know more of the upcoming updates before I decide...just so you know, your blog is not even updated for any product news or info that I'd have to come to this forum for any updates and news of your product...I'd appreciate to hear a little bit more of the submission strategies/training if possible.
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      • Profile picture of the author daniellim
        I finally canceled my 3-sites service plan after staying over 3 months...paying $497 a month. My ranking actually dropped from #3 to #44 this week, and so far did not see a rebound as of today, and they did not response to my ticket to look into my case as they promised...I'm nothing more to say but great disappointment, can anyone imagine how terrible this experience is with the expectation from the creator of SENuke? I mean, who is going to pay for my lost of sales due to the drops of my ranking? I trusted Joe for what he says about his strategies, but whatever Joe is telling about the ranking increase of his customers, that for sure is not happening to me, and Joe, Shame on You!
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        • Profile picture of the author BillM
          Originally Posted by daniellim View Post

          I finally canceled my 3-sites service plan after staying over 3 months...paying $497 a month. My ranking actually dropped from #3 to #44 this week, and so far did not see a rebound as of today, and they did not response to my ticket to look into my case as they promised...I'm nothing more to say but great disappointment, can anyone imagine how terrible this experience is with the expectation from the creator of SENuke? I mean, who is going to pay for my lost of sales due to the drops of my ranking? I trusted Joe for what he says about his strategies, but whatever Joe is telling about the ranking increase of his customers, that for sure is not happening to me, and Joe, Shame on You!
          I posted the same and my post was deleted?
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  • Profile picture of the author greyhatmaster
    @daniellim Their response time is quite slow, are you sure you did not make any changes to your site during this period. Did you build any backlinks on your own?

    These guys do have a lot of experience and my guess is that they are having problems with their newly hired team.
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    • Profile picture of the author daniellim
      they did response to my ticket, but did not answer the question, i have to reply again to specify my question asking for the advise and help as described in the service, but I hear no more reply for about a week...that was the point I decided to cancel the membership since the due date is coming up. No, I don't have other link building service at the same time, my budget is already met by this $497/mth SD service and I trusted it to stay for at least 3 months for optimum results. It's been about two weeks now, and my ranking is back from #44 to #4, but I have a lost of about 60% in sales during these period of time...yes, I do agree, these guys are very experience, and I love the SENuke tool myself, and I think the new team is not yet ready to meet our expectation...but for me, I've moved on and trying other serivces...
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      • Profile picture of the author BillM
        Originally Posted by daniellim View Post

        they did response to my ticket, but did not answer the question, i have to reply again to specify my question asking for the advise and help as described in the service, but I hear no more reply for about a week...that was the point I decided to cancel the membership since the due date is coming up. No, I don't have other link building service at the same time, my budget is already met by this $497/mth SD service and I trusted it to stay for at least 3 months for optimum results. It's been about two weeks now, and my ranking is back from #44 to #4, but I have a lost of about 60% in sales during these period of time...yes, I do agree, these guys are very experience, and I love the SENuke tool myself, and I think the new team is not yet ready to meet our expectation...but for me, I've moved on and trying other serivces...

        Is SEnuke Detonator getting results for anyone lately? Hopefully they fixed their issues.


        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author BillM
          Has anyone? at least one person had any results with this?

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          • Profile picture of the author abbadox
            If anyone has used this service in the past few months I would love to hear how it worked out?.

            Also if you still check in here Joe I would like to know when/if your going to add the improvements you mentioned ?.

            Thanks!!!
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