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Old 01-30-2010, 03:56 AM   #1
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I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:39 AM   #2
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I'd be skeptical myself of mass produced cookie cutter sites making any real money. But hey, that's me .... skeptical.
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Hey DonDada,

Last time I heard someone called that was back-a-yard! Did a search & saw your post and wondered what you have found out since you posed the question.

Adam was down in the Caribbean recently making the same pitch & while I am interested in signing up I would love to get some feedback.

Would therefore love to know if you signed up for Speedlings & what are your thoughts so far.

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Hi dondada1, I bought Speedlings in Jan and had built 300 sites so far.
While it has not made its money back yet, yes I agree it's a huge investment, my adsense revenue has already increased 2-4 times per day after a month and a half.

So far, search engines are sending me traffic, but I find my social networking accounts are also sending traffic to my sites. Even if google slaps it, there are other search engines. I cannot really comment on this because I wouldn't really know.

I'm into PLR and I have always wanted hundreds of websites with PLR content to earn adsense and other ad incomes, but have run out of steam after setting up a few.

But with this, I'm setting up hundreds of sites in a month.

If you are keen, you can check out my blog at Speedlings Review. Bascially, I try to document my progress there.
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Mass-churned cookie cutter sites usually get stomped down sooner or later. I hope you make your money back before (and if) it happens, glassextreme.
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Hi Dennis, when you talk about sites being stomped down, do you mean stomped down by google or other search engines? So far the traffic I get aren't just from google.
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Ah, the Holy Grail of push button sites that you can set up in 1 minute and that run on auto-pilot earning you money while you sleep, etc. I've tried many such solutions with less than stellar results. I'm still a believer in automation, so I won't say it CAN'T be done. And I haven't tried Speedlings, so I won't say it won't work. I'll just offer these observations...

$1000 for 10 sites that you don't own but have to pay every year for is relatively expensive. For that kind of money, you can buy proven sites with proven traffic and revenue that you actually own.

...Or buy other site building tools. For example, JP Schoeffel's Site Profit Bot recently sold for $67 (I think it is now $97) and with it you can build unlimited sites with push-button ease that will also earn you pennies a day on autopilot.

There are lots of other site building and auto-blogging tools that work on the same model that are far less expensive and where you own the sites you build.

Speedlings appears to take the turnkey concept to its limit. It seems everything is included, domain, hosting, keyword tools, etc. So even a trained monkey could do this.

But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. And when there are millions of these auto generated sites floating around, do you still think you'll be able to make $1/day from them?

For all it does, Speedlings seems like an impressive achievement, but $10,000 for an unlimited number of sites? It will take a lot of crappy sites to recover that.
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Many Thanks for that insight.

Interestingly enough I arrived at the same conclusion after my continued research.

One of the difficulties I had was in identifying the value of what I'd be getting in return for the money I'd be paying and in the end I just couldn't justify the purchase.

On top of this I kept having nightmares of Google changing its algorithm the day after I purchased...Ouch...

Not the things that sweet dreams are made of

So in the end I simply passed up on Speedlings

Once again many Thanks for your insightful comments

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Thanks...
I was looking at the site they use as an example. I think these kinds of sites make great parking pages for unused domains because they are basically content aggregators for keywords.

Too bad they are so expensive.
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Hi dondada1, I bought Speedlings in Jan and had built 300 sites so far.
While it has not made its money back yet, yes I agree it's a huge investment, my adsense revenue has already increased 2-4 times per day after a month and a half.

So far, search engines are sending me traffic, but I find my social networking accounts are also sending traffic to my sites. Even if google slaps it, there are other search engines. I cannot really comment on this because I wouldn't really know.

I'm into PLR and I have always wanted hundreds of websites with PLR content to earn adsense and other ad incomes, but have run out of steam after setting up a few.

But with this, I'm setting up hundreds of sites in a month.

If you are keen, you can check out my blog at Speedlings Review. Bascially, I try to document my progress there.
I have been looking into this as well. A couple quick questions for you:

1. Does it automatically create a twitter account for you and post to it or do you have to enter your twitter account info after you create the account?
2. Do you enter the keyword list in you want to use or does it automatically aggregate a list of related and/or long tail keywords associated with your main keyword?
3. Is there an admin area where you can ad/delete any content after it auto builds the site or are you pretty much stuck with what is built once it is completed?

Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
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I have been looking into this as well. A couple quick questions for you:

1. Does it automatically create a twitter account for you and post to it or do you have to enter your twitter account info after you create the account?
Hi mainstreamad, let me try to answer your questions for you.
You have to create your own twitter account. If you want numerous twitter accounts for different niches, you will have to use different email address. Speedlings just gave us access to autotwitterfollow where it will follow people automatically and drop them if they don't follow you back. You will add your twitter account manually, and link to different websites you have created.
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2. Do you enter the keyword list in you want to use or does it automatically aggregate a list of related and/or long tail keywords associated with your main keyword?
It will automatically come up with a list of related and/or long tail keywords. This feature is the reason why we have to pay more to buy domain credits from them.
What I actually do is I will use my own keyword tools to get lots of different long tail keywords and then I'll build multiple sites on different related keywords and link them together.

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3. Is there an admin area where you can ad/delete any content after it auto builds the site or are you pretty much stuck with what is built once it is completed?
I think they took away the delete function. I need to check that. But you can definitely add pages and blog posts. The pages can include auctions.
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Thanks for the info. As for question 2, after the list of long tail kws is generated do you have to enter them each in one by one or are they automatically added. I ask because like you I would prefer to use my own keyword research as well. Not saying what they are using is good or bad because I really don't know, but I know I can trust my own research
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I have a question. Do you make $1 per day per site?

If I had 10k to invest I'd probably buy an existing website with good traffic and not so good marketing and work with that. Or I'd SEO 1 site pretty good! ..or experiment with different paid traffic sources and have some fun building lists!
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How does one "collect" the money they make?
weekly, monthly yearly,who sends the checks?
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Software like that has been around for a few years. I've known people who tried it. The sites were dropped by Google in a short time.

I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
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Glassextreme-
I was following your progress in speedlings but now I can't find your blog. I know you moved it to Build auto websites but the site doesn't come up. Have you taken it offline?
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i attended a showing in feb 2010. still very costly - offered at 5,000 with other support - after that went up to 12,000. I did not buy it but it was impressive. some of friends did, and are liking it so far, just have to wait and see. the money is put onto a debit card. for the not so savvy, some of your thoughts, are interesting... i was actually feeling bad becuz i did not buy but maybe should not, he claims he has good relationship with GOogle...
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Hi
Anyone have a link to a recording of the recent speedlings webinar, that is if they recorded it of course.

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I checked out the Speedlings sales page w/ Adam's 9-minute video, then moved forward to his purchase page. It is INCREDIBLY unclear, deceptively scammy in it's lack of clarity about what you get for what you pay. Do you just get the "rights" to 5 new Speedling websites every time you pay another $990 (except the first time when he "gives" you 5 more for free?) That would mean you have to spend $20,000 to put up 100 Speedling sites, enough to really make decent monthly IM income. Who the hell's gonna pay that!!?? If I'm wrong about the math here, sorry, but I'm just going off the pittance of information that's offered.

There are no links on the page to FAQs or other pages that spell things out clearer, and no Contact links ANYWHERE so you could write Adam directly to ask these questions. And this thread is already 3 months old and guess who's never showed up on it to help clarify anything...wait for it...Adam!

When Wordpress Mage was released, Greg Jacobs personally started responding on the Warrior forum the first day of its release, and has continued to post scores of times every month.

I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself.
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I have met Adam at various live events and conferences, and I have bought some of his information products related to eBay, which is what he built his reputation on. He is not a scammer, although it may seem that way from his pricing.

I think he is catering to a different audience, and so I would be surprised if you found him on this forum. His target market is not the experienced IM-er who has enough experience and knowledge to put together these kinds of sites for much less. I would guess his target market is the opportunity seeker who wants a turnkey internet business without spending the time to learn the business.

Adam clearly believes that as a business opportunity for the newbies, he has created an enticing value proposition, even at the high price level. But for anyone who knows anything about internet marketing, there are more economical ways to make money.
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It's not his pricing that makes his sales page seem scammy, it's his lack of full disclosure, his lack of even basic contact information (I mean seriously, before you just "plastic" this guy $1000, don't you think might want to ask a few questions!) and his lack of ANY type of partial or full refund offer. What happens if you send him a grand, then find out it's not what you thought it would be, or just isn't a good fit for you. Too bad, he's got your one large, and you haven't a leg to stand on.

And regardless of gearing his product to a different, non-IM market, he could certainly make an appearance here to clear some things up on a thread about his IM launch that's been up for 3 months. I'm sure he knows Warrior and knows this thread is happening. He's probably avoiding answering 'cause he knows Speedlings won't stand up to the experienced scrutiny it will get here.
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hi

i went to a social millionaire meeting today (ldn) and he presented, people rushed to the back of the room before he'd even finished to give their credit card info. (around 5- 6000$ for package unlimited sites but only 30 free then you have to register your own..wasnt clear to me how hosting works?

He got a lady nurse up on stage who knew nothing about the web and created a site in 3 mins or less.

this is the site here:

mephisto-mens-shoes dot com

so domain was bought and went live within 20 mins.

looking at site in the blog section it uses the word mephisto and then delivers news about the greek economy so would put a visitor off ..but maybe its just bedding the keywords in..

also he said they used geo targeting but when i look at it here in uk i am presented with lots of US ebay ads in dollars and amazon.com offers not amazon uk?

as the site pinged all his social networks we could all see on screen within minutes earnings coming in from clickthroughs ...around 2- 3 dollars in 30 mins but of course he has big networks on his own account.

I am attracted to this package and he was a cool blok (not that it matters!)

anyone else tried it in last few weeks?


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Adam recently spoke at my Boost Seminar.

His full 90 minute presentation is posted on my blog and he goes into great detail about what his system is, what it does for people and how you can use it to make money online.

He had the audience completely into the presentation, as you'll see... it was quite popular.

You can view the video on my blog at jeffmills dot com (sorry I cannot post a link), then do a search for speedlings in my search box.
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I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
Hi,

Yes I saw Adam Ginsberg in London only last Sunday at the Gloucester Hotel and he was showing his speedlings software I must say initially I was impresses and was tempted. he built a site in a few minutes and before the 90 minutes presentation was over he had made $3-4 dollars from adsense income.

However thinking about remember something he has a huge twitter following ad other social media lists which he will be using to generate that traffic in a very short time. Most of us don't and it will take time to do so. I also noticed the guarantee was only if you made any income at all and it would be very unlikely for that not to happen so even if you just made $4-5 it wouldn't apply
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I bought the speedlings software after seeing Adam in London last saturday too. Hopefully getting my details through this week so I can get on with the process.

Yes Adam had a huge following on Twitter, but it is still possible to make money... if it takes a little longer and more effort.

Hopefully this will work.
I will keep you all posted on my progress.

Any questions just send me a message or post here.
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I bought the Adam Ginsberg Platinum package about a year ago. It was a big investment. I had a lot of problems getting started and since then they have changed the game on us considerably, firing the coaches, introducing Speedlings as an upsell, and I know some of my friends have spent about 3 times as much upgrading to the Speedlings.

In the last few months, Customer support has been reduced to support ticketing, and the most basic replies. Adam continuously travels, and is a superb salesman, and all those new clients seem to go into the same support ticket queue. I think many people just give up, the learning curve on most of the programs he sells is steep, and the live training and coaching that was promised rarely materialised and now mainly only delivered in the form of Speedlings webinars. The originators of this program last time I checked sell it much cheaper than Adam, (Geekdom), and do your research before buying anything from them, as they have recently had to refund around 180 clients who got legal over disappointments with a smilar product (Geekversity).

My experience has been that a lot of half truths were told in the sales pitch, and there are free to cheap website building products and populating plugins around if you want quick websites, in my experience this company does not sell quality products and doesn't even back them up with good support. A last warning - the contracts you sign are diabolical and written in tiny, tiny print. Read the small print before giving them your credit card.
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Hi, attended a seminar in London today and appears certain aspects have moved on from the conversation above ands certainlky improved by the look of it and the terms are very clear once you have a copy. Key points I'd highlight:

Business Model
  • Your really budiling revenue/profit not capital as site content remains with them, some plans for resale but nothing yet and your business linked to their ongoing success
  • Domin Names (only) can be trasfered for small admin fee
  • A refund guarentee if under about $30 per annum per site yr 1 (see below)
  • Steady state - post year 1 -breakeven is only $0.5 per site per month but you could always exercise the guarentee if its anything like that year 1
  • To generate $36k profit per annum would require $100 per site per ammum for an initial investment of $11.6k (see below) and an ongoing $2k per annum
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  • IMPORTANT : Now with a 12 Month Refund+ Guarentee that initial annual subsciption fee ($6k see below) will be repaid x 2 if you fail to generate $6k in year 1 - to qualify you need to commit to build 30 sites per month
  • Gold (unlimited sites) product was 'show discounted' to $6k first year subscription from nominal $10k
  • You must host and buy domains with them $15 per domian - first 30 free with unlimited package
  • Annual subscription for :content adding, hosting, renewal is $2k max (unlimited)
Profit Model / Cost Profile / Guarentee
  • Going for the guarentee and building the 384 odd sites means the first year costs are around $11.6k = $6k + (354 * $15)
  • So the 12 month guarentee trigger threshold is around $30 per site (or actually $2.4 per site/month as they come on line 30 per month nominally
  • Therafter the annual costs drops to $2k
  • My conclusion was that if your just over the trigger threshold (no guarentee then its a 18 month payback period) assuming flat revenue rolling forward which should be conservative
  • At this min guarentee trigger point the rolling profit therefater is $8.9k per annum (assuming no more sites built)
Hope that adds some clarity in terms of what you get, your protection and what revenue it needs to genetrate.

For my opinion its certainly not a scam and provided a) its robust google for a year or so at least and b) you have a resonable social media network it will deliver payback and profit as demonstrated in the seminar within an acceptible period OR if it doesn't get could get $12k back ($6k x 2) so recover all the first year costs.

On the less possitive side its unlikely to make you an internet millionaire without a) some inspired keyword choices on product launches and b) lots of sites and it ties up a relatively large investment that may be able to work more efficiently for you elsewhere !?

You may also be concerned as I am about not building a capital asset you own for potrential resale (may change later) only a revenue stream under someone elses control.

The ROI question to ask is really about typical earnings per site as costs are fixed, anything over $1.5 per month and its a nice profit genetator, at $3 its lovely. The subscription terms prohibit any current subscriber disclosing that - not that unusual before you balk, its basically an investment product - so i guess the real questioin is how happy are you with the guarentee and giving something a try .......

My profit model below (shown for the on guarentee point) for reference which assumes building the min first years quota of sites for guarentee and then stopping there.

Please dont send me loads of questions or scrutinise my typos / spelling too closely - sirry rushimng - just wanted to add some meat to the rather loose items above thats all.

YEAR12345# new SITES / month320000# SITES384384384384384Free Domains300000Cost of Domains5,3100000Domain Transfers00000Subscription5,9972,0002,0002,0002,000Cost of Finance300100100100100Cost per Annum11,6072,1002,1002,1002,100





Breakeven Earnings per site305555




Min Non Trigger Earnings5,99011,05911,05911,05911,059





Profit-5,6168,9598,9598,9598,959Cumm Profit-56163343123022126130220
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Excel model didn't post but you can see the frgures and build your own very easily based on the costs I've provided.
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I just went to this event today where Adam Ginsberg showed off his new baby speeding. The whole objective of his presentation was to show how easy it was for anybody to make a website and how you can make a website and forget about it forever. The whole program sets up these websites and ad content for you, automate your Twitter for you and blogs. The whole point is just to make a dollar from one website a day. And with the speed of this software, you can do about 10 or 20 a day. It looks pretty cool but it's a very hefty price. But of course like my mentor told me, it's not how much it's going to cost you, it's how much it's going to make you. The only thing that concerns me is your boys at Google who love to slap people around, and just like that, all of those sites could have been gone. Even though he says they are all regulated and abide by Google's rules, Google can just decide that there are just too many of these types of sites getting indexed and showing up in the searches. It reminds me of those ban sites where a lot of people was putting up not too long ago. I'm interested. If anybody has tried this or looked into this, to give me their opinion if this is a good investment move for a long term passive income. So I came to the best forum, The Warrior, to find out the answer.
Hey dondada1,
I was there yesterday, i was very impressed with the way Adam markets his products. The guy is so full of energy and funny. Really interacts with his audience.
As For speedlings, initially i thought it was a good idea, and very impressive, but how long will it last.If Adam kept it to himself he could and does dominate Google.
My verdict, impressive, expensive but no thanks.

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I'd like to thank everyone for all the great (and some not so informed) comments about Speedlings. As a long time member of the Warrior Forum I thought it would be good for me - as the owner of Speedlings - to share the most accurate information on the software.

I'll do my best to answer all inquires fairly, although you would naturally expect that my opinion will be somewhat biased.

Many of the comments have been said better than I could. Sarah Tan is an awesome example of someone who is making great use of Speedlings with both her commentary here, and on her blog.

Some of the comments are made by people who have never even seen or experienced Speedlings but think that because it's a "website builder" it must be just like every other web builder previously created - which of course it's not.

According to GDINTERMED, "But at the end of the day, you'll still be building spammy sites that no human will want to spend more than 10 seconds on. " To be clear, he's not a Speedlings Member, has never created a site, and doesn't understand Speedlings as these sites are not 'spammy'. In fact, the amount of time people spend on a niche site created by Speedlings is quite good. Obviously it depends on the niche.

For lin: "How does one "collect" the money they make? weekly, monthly yearly,who sends the checks?

It depends on the source from which you earn your revenue. Google pays you directly. Clickbank pays you directly. eBay pays you directly. There are certain exclusive income feeds that are built into Speedlings. They would be paid to you directly via PayPal from Speedlings.

With respect can certainly choose not to use Speedlings, but he clearly doesn't know anything about it.

Shaun, we run live webinars once or twice a week as opposed to making recorded webinars available. The software is updated with new features and functionality every few weeks. To watch a recorded webinar that is outdated (even from 30 days ago) wouldn't make much sense.

This post really brought a smile to my face. According to Seth, "I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself. "

I won't hold my breath and wait for an apology. If you go to Contact Adam Ginsberg - ContactAdamGinsberg.com you can see all our contact information is online. In fact, it's on every website I create. In fact, there's a toll free 888 # and support desk on all Speedlings order pages. Seth - you might want to be careful about calling someone a "scammer" unless you have accurate information to back up your claim.

And Seth, seriously did you really write this: "He's probably avoiding answering 'cause he knows Speedlings won't stand up to the experienced scrutiny it will get here. " You clearly don't know anything about me if you think I'm afraid to deal with questions, why by the way are not too difficult to answer.

Jeff Mills, thanks for your support buddy - you are a rockstar and I really appreciate you and what you've done for this industry. Keep up the great work!

In terms of the income opportunity, let me clear something up so we're all on the same page. I have many social media accounts with more than 100,000 people in them, including various Twitter accounts, Facebook fan pages, etc. When I do a demo showing immediate income it is for example purposes only. ANYONE that has actually hear me speak live (either in person or in a webinar) has hear me say that Speedlings is not a get rich quick plan. In fact, it's quite the opposite. I'm very clear that it could take up to 90 days before a new student makes even $1 online. It could take a year for some nice income to flow. The fact is, it doesn't matter whether it's Speedlings or something else - it takes TIME to be successful. We live in a society where everything gets judged by immediate results, but that's not the way life works.

And the guarantee we offer is stellar. Here's the way it works. Invest in Speedlings for $6k. Create an average of one site per day (30 per month). Heck, it takes less than 5 minutes. At the end of 12 months if you haven't made $6k, we give you back $12k (less what you've earned). This covers your initial investment and your investment in the domains for the first year. That's it. No gimmicks, no fine print. No hidden agenda.

Msindependence - this is a Speedlings forum post. You didn't buy Speedlings, you don't have Speedlings. If you have any questions about your previous purchase you can contact us directly at AdamGinsbergSupport.com there's no "small print" - all the print is the same size

Raziels - Thanks for your commentary - I really enjoyed reading that one. The only thing I would say is this... your income plan is a minimalistic one. Do that same math with 2,000+ sites like Sarah Tan has, 5,000+ sites or 10,000+ sites. Yes, it's possible to earn massive income with Speedlings... but making the minimum number of sites necessary to qualify for the guarantee won't do it. Thanks again...great stuff!

So, there you go. My thoughts on what people have said on this forum about Speedlings.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions about Speedlings that anyone has...the positive or the not so positive. My only request is that you keep separate your question/ comment about Speedlings and my personal character. Comments that state I'm a "scammer" is unacceptable and out of line. If you have a personal issue with me - call me or open a support ticket and I'll call you... it's too easy for people to hide anonymously behind their computer these days and make comments that are unacceptable.

I look forward to actively responding to messages here on the Warrior Forum in regards to Speedlings. And to all our Speedlings members around the world, who have published more than 60,000 Speedlings sites in the last 100 days - thank you and keep up the great work!
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Yes I saw Adam Ginsberg in London only last Sunday at the Gloucester Hotel and he was showing his speedlings software I must say initially I was impresses and was tempted. he built a site in a few minutes and before the 90 minutes presentation was over he had made $3-4 dollars from adsense income.

However thinking about remember something he has a huge twitter following ad other social media lists which he will be using to generate that traffic in a very short time. Most of us don't and it will take time to do so. I also noticed the guarantee was only if you made any income at all and it would be very unlikely for that not to happen so even if you just made $4-5 it wouldn't apply
This isn't an accurate representation of the guarantee. If you make $4 or $5 in 12 months and meet the requirements of the guarantee you aren't disqualified. You will earn a minimum of your investment back in the 12 months if you meet the criteria. Some people even get the benefit of the double money back guarantee...however, let's be clear on how it works:

If you invest $6,000 in the software and you earn only $5 - we give you back $5995. If you invest $6000 in the software and you earn $350, we give you back $5650.

Yes, most people when they are starting will not make a lot of money in the beginning - probably nothing in the first 90 days - it takes time to make money online, establish social media profiles, get indexed and develop natural traffic. Speedlings sites will make this happen automatically - but that doesn't mean the results are instant. Whether you do it manually or automate the process, it's still going to take time. I'm always very clear about this. Just wanted to clarify the misinformation for the way the guarantee works.

Some students will be further eligible for the double money back guarantee as well. If you do, you know who you are
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I checked out the Speedlings sales page w/ Adam's 9-minute video, then moved forward to his purchase page. It is INCREDIBLY unclear, deceptively scammy in it's lack of clarity about what you get for what you pay. Do you just get the "rights" to 5 new Speedling websites every time you pay another $990 (except the first time when he "gives" you 5 more for free?) That would mean you have to spend $20,000 to put up 100 Speedling sites, enough to really make decent monthly IM income. Who the hell's gonna pay that!!?? If I'm wrong about the math here, sorry, but I'm just going off the pittance of information that's offered.

There are no links on the page to FAQs or other pages that spell things out clearer, and no Contact links ANYWHERE so you could write Adam directly to ask these questions. And this thread is already 3 months old and guess who's never showed up on it to help clarify anything...wait for it...Adam!

When Wordpress Mage was released, Greg Jacobs personally started responding on the Warrior forum the first day of its release, and has continued to post scores of times every month.

I'm calling this guy out for a major scammer. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be proven so, and I promise I will eat crow and apologize profusely. Adam, if you're out there, now's the time for you to show up and make yourself accessible for some much-needed answers, for chrissake. How do you have the gall to stick such a humongous price tag in front of us with absolutely no contact links, offer for refund if not satisfied, or at least a clearly-spelled-out terms of your programs plan. If you don't respond, that will be an answer in itself.
Seth - two things. First I'm not Greg James. I'm sure he's a great guy but not posting on the Warrior forum doesn't make someone a "scammer".

Second, I will accept your apology when you post it. You can read my other comments about the guarantee or contact info you say doesn't exist.

For the record, you concept of the cost of Speedlings is way off.
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This is my first time visiting these forums. I found this by doing a google search for Speedlings after having seen Adam here in London this weekend at the Internet Millionaire's Summit. Well, to be specific, I missed Adam's presentation on Friday and had a wonderful conversation with the "other Adam" (Stenberg?) whom I believe is somehow tied with the Ginsberg organization as one of their trainers and/or beta testers. I was curious what all was going on in the Speedlings community and so now I'm here.

Anyway, I have owned Speedlings since April having purchased it at a previous conference Adam spoke at here in London. This all being said, I think there are a few misconceptions about this software and what it does being posted in here. It's no big surprise that those misconceptions are being posted by know-it-alls who have never seen it, heard of it, or used it. You just have to love armchair "experts" on the Internet.

Now, to preface things, I'm no Internet expert. I'm a retired housekeeping manager for a major hotel chain here in London and my husband retired six years ago after selling his upholstery business. We have been getting active in starting a few, small, online businesses to pass the time and earn a few quid along the way. One of the programs we decided to invest in was Speedlings.

Now while I have only been using the software since April, my results have been pretty much what Adam said I should expect by this point in time. I have built almost 100 sites so far and while many of them are not earning any money yet (Adam says not to expect to until about 90 days) many of them are. It's not huge money, but it's money. My most recent treasure is a website I built two weeks ago:

youressentialoils.net

It has earned a grand total of £2.04 so far. Now I'm sure you are reading this and wondering why is it so exciting to only earn so little money. Well, let's think about this for a moment. Adam says we should expect to have a base target of $1 US/day. so, if that's the case, my site has earned $3.00US in two weeks (14 days). That breaks down to about 21 cents a day. Am I going to buy a new caravan with that? No. But it is showing that this software does do as promised. Actually, in the case of this site, much moreso.

Now, I will also say that some of my sites I built in April are only earning a little bit per day and some some of my sites are just now starting to get near the $1/day mark. As Adam says, this is not a get-rich-quick scheme. It is based upon a volume of websites earning small amounts of money. But since the sites are so easy to make, I'm finding that my results are right on with what they should be based upon what I was told in his presentation.

So Adam, it's nice to see that you are posting in here and I will say that while I have not become a millionaire from your software, or even come close to breaking even on the cost of the software, so far I am quite satisfied with Speedlings and how it performs. The updates have been great, the new templates are nice, and I am using Speedlings now almost every day. The income has been trickling in but that's no different than what you claimed would happen. As my husband keeps reminding me, it's about volume, not about making a fortune on one site. It would just be nice if more of the "experts" in here could at least see your presentation or, better yet, play with the software before they blindly criticized it.
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Hi I was also at the London presentation, I was very impressed with the product. I asked a lot of tough questions and got good clear answers. I am troubled by the lack of an ability to sell the sites on as a going concern with content. I think this is some thing Adam and his team are looking at. Maybe they could set up an internal market, so that you could sell the sites to other Speedlings owners.
In any case you could use the product to back link to other sites which you can sell, I am very keen to use it in this link juice mode.
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Hey Greg - Sorry about that... I did know that. I should proof read before I post. Have a great weekend
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Hi I was also at the London presentation, I was very impressed with the product. I asked a lot of tough questions and got good clear answers. I am troubled by the lack of an ability to sell the sites on as a going concern with content. I think this is some thing Adam and his team are looking at. Maybe they could set up an internal market, so that you could sell the sites to other Speedlings owners.
In any case you could use the product to back link to other sites which you can sell, I am very keen to use it in this link juice mode.
Colin - this functionality is coming. It's not as easy as it seems. The sites are hosting on the Amazon Cloud and since they automatically add contact every day you can't simply sell a site to be hosted somewhere else. We're actually building a marketplace that will make it possible for Speedlings site to be bought and sold. Currently, sites CAN BE SOLD to existing Speedlings members.

We release new functionality and system updates about every two weeks, so as an existing Speedlings member you can look forward to this announcement in the future.
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Now while I have only been using the software since April, my results have been pretty much what Adam said I should expect by this point in time. I have built almost 100 sites so far and while many of them are not earning any money yet (Adam says not to expect to until about 90 days) many of them are. It's not huge money, but it's money. My most recent treasure is a website I built two weeks ago:

youressentialoils.net

It has earned a grand total of £2.04 so far. Now I'm sure you are reading this and wondering why is it so exciting to only earn so little money. Well, let's think about this for a moment. Adam says we should expect to have a base target of $1 US/day. so, if that's the case, my site has earned $3.00US in two weeks (14 days). That breaks down to about 21 cents a day. Am I going to buy a new caravan with that? No. But it is showing that this software does do as promised. Actually, in the case of this site, much moreso.

Now, I will also say that some of my sites I built in April are only earning a little bit per day and some some of my sites are just now starting to get near the $1/day mark. As Adam says, this is not a get-rich-quick scheme. It is based upon a volume of websites earning small amounts of money. But since the sites are so easy to make, I'm finding that my results are right on with what they should be based upon what I was told in his presentation....

I took a look at this site. It's not a bad looking site. Even though it is not ranked in the search engines yet, with the content it has and the way it is set up, I would expect it could get some organic traffic and earn some money.

But it is a Wordpress blog, which is free software. And it uses a popular theme which you can get for free here: Snapshot | WooThemes And from what I can tell, it uses standard feeds and affiliate programs available to anyone for free.

I am sorry to be the one to reveal that "the Emperor has no clothes on" , but with a little training, you could build these sites for free. As many as you want. And you would own them and be able to sell them for at least $50-$100 each. AND there are free or low cost tools to make them quick to set up.

Now maybe Speedlings makes it so simple to set these sites up that instead of taking 15 minutes, it takes 1 minute. Is that worth something? Sure. But $6K?

I go back to my previous statement that this product is targeted at newbies and opportunity seekers who would rather buy the dream than learn what's behind the curtain. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand what you're paying for.
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I took a look at this site. It's not a bad looking site. Even though it is not ranked in the search engines yet, with the content it has and the way it is set up, I would expect it could get some organic traffic and earn some money.

But it is a Wordpress blog, which is free software. And it uses a popular theme which you can get for free here: Snapshot | WooThemes And from what I can tell, it uses standard feeds and affiliate programs available to anyone for free.

I am sorry to be the one to reveal that "the Emperor has no clothes on" , but with a little training, you could build these sites for free. As many as you want. And you would own them and be able to sell them for at least $50-$100 each. AND there are free or low cost tools to make them quick to set up.

Now maybe Speedlings makes it so simple to set these sites up that instead of taking 15 minutes, it takes 1 minute. Is that worth something? Sure. But $6K?

I go back to my previous statement that this product is targeted at newbies and opportunity seekers who would rather buy the dream than learn what's behind the curtain. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand what you're paying for.
Hi gcintermed, obviously you don't own Speedlings. I appreciate your comments, but they're simply not accurate or correct.

Speedlings is proprietary software AND NOT WORDPRESS. You are correct that the site is built with ad adaption of the wordpress theme - but it's not built on the wordpress platform. We have lots of themes within our system.

As well, this statement "And from what I can tell, it uses standard feeds and affiliate programs available to anyone for free" isn't accurate as well. Honestly (and with respect) you have no idea what feeds Speedlings uses or how it works. YES, it works with affiliate programs that are available to anyone for free but so does any program promoting affiliate products.

Your comment makes my point perfectly - unless you truly understand or know what Speedlings is, you are only making statements of YOUR option that are factually not correct.

For the record, we have both internet newbies (and by the way, there's nothing wrong with that) and highly advanced internet marketers using Speedlings successfully, for many purposes.

The question isn't how much the software costs, the question is the return on the investment that can be generated. At no point in time have we ever said the software was inexpensive, nor are we making any effort to compete with any other program on price. If you don't think it's worth the investment, then it's certainly not for you.

Again, my only suggestion when making posts is to be accurate. That's the reason I'm posting here now - there's too many people making comments about what they "think" Speedlings is or what Speedlings does - and a lot of it isn't accurate.
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Having read the threads of comments, we wanted to share our thoughts. Adam's right about this being "NOT a get rich quick scheme". We have found ourselves committing to about 15 to 18 hours a week just now as we are in the initial beginnings of this opportunity.

At this time there are two challenge impacting the time needed to do Speedlings. One is that the application is often going through functionality changes (feelings like this is bleeding edge however at least the changes have made the application better to use). One other challenge causing time allocation problems, is the plain fact that we are new to Internet Marketing so there is a steep learning curve for us to tackle.

We anticipate that the number of hours needed to do this business should reduce to 7 hours a week.

Given that we started in mid-February 2010 and given the anticipated earnings 1.00/website/day proforma made by Adam, we have invested 20k and anticipate potential earnings of a little under 490K per year after the initial year.

Due to the initial set up and learning curve in the first year, we anticipate earning only 20% of the 490k potential or 98k. To date we have earned just shy of 400.00 US. Given Adam's statement regarding a 90 day lag time before a website is producing revenue, the 400 is from the 40 sites we completed as of mid-April. To date we have a little over 1000 sites.

As for support? We have found the webinars very useful and both the phone and email ticket support services to be consistent and timely.

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Jesus CNS, you spent 20K, on basically what is auto blogging and you don't even own the Sites....Damn !!!!

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I dont understand why people are making their huge investment in so called "Speedlings", there are better and cheap ways to get more good results while keeping initial investment quite lower. In my view "Speedlings" is an ideal investment for those people who are in website development business, it also good to use these sites for auction or filping to get the results faster... do you think you are seeing your returns in reasonable time .. no, after purchasing it you must prepare your self just running and running on an endless road to spend nearly 2000s of your great months, you may also divide it with the numbers of websites to reduce your months or so. Mr Adam seems to be in a real hurry but he is not sparing any time for his colleagues. He should think about it and let others to try his invention on a retail bases on a quite reasonable rate.
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Does anyone own their domains or are they leased and renewed each year?
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With the easily detectable footprint it has, I'm surprised Google hasn't done this to these sites yet...


As for the price, it seems a bit high but, if you aren't a programmer, you would spend that much or more having a quality program developed to do the same thing.
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With the easily detectable footprint it has, I'm surprised Google hasn't done this to these sites yet...

YouTube - THE BEST RED CARD!

As for the price, it seems a bit high but, if you aren't a programmer, you would spend that much or more having a quality program developed to do the same thing.
Google will not for the next decay at least because the Big G itself has started all of this! You know Google has already sunk deep in its own working strategy and when it will send those sites to its sandbox that day other companies even with great names which are looking an ideal time from years to fill the gap to jump into, Google will not even suffer a great revenue loss but offer a bulk of readily available clients to shift with just a "code" change. It will be a hard competitive environment for Great Google to survive. Yes.. how this big water's shark will adjust itself in frog's little pond
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Remember, in business it's not how much you spend it's how much you get in return. Speedlings is real technology that works. And, it works well. Two factors that are important to understand:

1) It takes time. Speedlings has NEVER been promoted as a get rich plan. It's a get rich slow and stay rich plan. New members are very clearly told that it can be 90 days before they earn their first $1.

2) How much you pay is only relevant to your return. The cost of the software is approximately $6k. It's much more than a "blog" - which is evident to anyone that uses it. Domain name site credits (which are approx. $17 each although can be less if paid in bulk) include the domain name, the privacy for that domain AND 1 year hosting for that domain. Domains are leased to Speedlings for 90 days to insure that the site is created and working properly and then can, simply by request, be transferred into the users name with no issue. Fact is, that no one really owns a domain. Whether you get it from GoDaddy, Enom, or others, if you don't renew each year you don't keep access to that domain.

Finally, while Speedlings sites have set themes (just as wordpress blogs do), users can add their own unique content along with the content, videos, twitter posts, images, articles, and affiliate products that are added to the site - automatically. No two sites are identical in any way.

I am always available to answer any questions, comments, thoughts or share insights about Speedlings.

Anyone who knows me understands that I'm much more than a "guy selling some software". Questions can come from novice, intermediate or the most experienced internet marketers.

For those people that have sent me PM's regarding JV's, keep them coming. I'm happy to answer them all!
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so it would be 3 months before someone can earn his or her 1st $1, the first month would be like a probationary, did I think it right?
My point is that I never promote this opportunity as a "get rich" quick plan. It's much better to under promise and over deliver. Many Speedlings members make money sooner, but the fact is, we're not doing anything to "trick google", to try to "get on the first page of search engines in 24 hours", or anything other than by getting natural search engine results and using social media for promotion.

There's no "probational" period - it's just a time frame so people have the right expectations. There's to much "make $42,000 by next Tuesday" online.

Speedlings is a software that works to generate real income. It's a real business. And, in a real business it simply takes time to make money.

Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the question.
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Just wanted to say thanks to Adam for attending this site to answer all questions. Its great to be transparent.

One thing I need to know is if there is a way out once a person has signed up for the system. I believe you allow 3 days only. Is there any other caviats?
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Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks to Adam for attending this site to answer all questions. Its great to be transparent.

One thing I need to know is if there is a way out once a person has signed up for the system. I believe you allow 3 days only. Is there any other caviats?
No worries - I'm happy to answer any an all Speedlings questions.

There's two guarantees with Speedlings. The first is a 3 day cancellation policy from the date of purchase. The second is a 12 month extended performance guarantee.

Speedlings isn't a get rich scheme - it's an automated software that simply allows someone to create a website in minutes that would normally (for the average person) take hours or days to create. However, it still takes time for sites to get indexed, etc. - nothing it done to circumvent normal search results processes, or do anything "black hat" in any way.

We know speedlings works - and we have countless students who are using is successfully. You can read some of the stories here: SpeedlingsSuccess.com

However, we also know that when someone invests a lot of money in something they would like to know for certain they will get a return on their investment. So, we offer a 12 month extended performance guarantee. Yes, there are requirements but if a person follows the 'plan' we set forth and they do not recoup their initial investment after 12 months we will give them their investment back.

So yes, there's a 3 day money back guarantee - but there's also a 12 month extended performance guarantee as well... there is no risk if someone is willing to follow the plan we know works. And if it doesn't work for them, they get their money back!

Any other questions, let me know.
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