Thoughts about Barter Arbitrage?

14 years ago

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14 years ago

Hey guys and gals,

I am an actual student of Barter Arbitrage so I can answer any and all questions that you may have. Before I answer the questions that are already posted here, let me make a few things about myself clear:

First and foremost, I am just a paying student of BA. I am not now, nor have I ever been an affiliate marketer for the product, nor do I receive ANYTHING for recommending the product to others.

Second, I don't bs. I have been burned many times, just like the rest of you, and if a product sucks ass, I will not hesitate to tell anyone who will listen not to buy it.

So, with that being said, let me answer the questions that have been asked so far:

*Is the material A-Z without any information left out?

A: Absolutely. And if you have ever bought an info product before, (which you obviously have) then when you finally get into Barter Arbitrage, you will probably initially be overwhelmed at the amount of information that you are going to have to go through.

More importantly, all Barter Arbitrage students have constant e-mail access to both Vegas Vince and Sylvia Rolfe (the creators of the product) not to mention that BA has it's own forums which Vince and Sylvia are on all day every day answering any questions that any of us might have.

To top it all off, you actually get a phone consultation with Vince just for signing up (Its supposed to be for an hour, but you will soon learn that Vince doesn't really watch the clock and he will always make himself available to you if you need him.)

In addition, Barter Arbitrage is what you would call a "live" product. So Vince is constantly adding anything new that he learns to the course, at no additional cost to the members and with zero monthly fees. I have NEVER seen another product that offers that.

*No One Time upselling?

A: You will never be sold another thing by Vince or Sylvia. The reason? They have NOTHING else to sell. Vince and Sylvia make their money by doing what they teach. They are not "internet marketers" who make money selling products, they are Independent Traders who genuinely want to teach others how to make money.

Now, obviously their are perks and advantages for them to teach others to do what they do, but upselling is not one of them. You have to realize that what they teach is something that VERY few people in the world actually do. So if they have an opportunity to teach a few hundred of us to do what they do, they now have hundreds of new partners in their industry that can each be a potential Joint Venture opportunity in the future.(They will teach you about that in the course)

I realized immediately after buying the course, that Vince could have easily broken this course into pieces and sold each technique as it's own course for thousands of dollars (and I have actually told him that since becoming a member) but he insists that he isn't selling the product to try and retire off of it.

Vince will be the first to tell you that this is his first, and most likely last, info product he will ever sell. The reason is, this is all he knows and he gives you everything he has got in this product.

*I understand they show you where to "buy high and sell low", but do they explain where to find hungry buyers?

A: Yes they do. But you have to also understand that when you learn to do what they do, you quickly realize that you will be able to sell just about anything for anywhere from 40 cents to 65 cents on the dollar, and make a huge profit. This means that no matter what it is you decide to sell, you will be destroying your competition and they will have no idea how you are doing it.

Because of this massive advantage, you literally have buyers everywhere you look. It is impossible NOT to find buyers when you can always undercut the competition.

*Is there anyone out there that is currently doing this business and could tell me if it's realistic and obtainable?

A: I am doing this business, and it is not only realistic and obtainable, but it is not very hard. I am telling you that when you hear what Vince teaches, it is going to blow you away because you are going to be shocked out how much sense it makes. You are also going to wonder why there aren't a lot more people who have taught this over the years.

*Can this be a long-term business?

A: This is all I do now, and may be all I do for the rest of my life. And I want to point out that I am a newb at this. (Technically we all are since the course just came out in January of 2010)

Listen, bottom line is this, I know you're skeptical. That's actually a good thing. But I really think you should give this a shot because if you do you will quickly find that it is unlike anything you have ever purchased before.

Anyway, I hope that helped and if anyone has any questions for me, please feel free to shoot them my way and I will be happy to answer them.

Joe

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russmarsha

14 years ago

This is the real deal, Vince and sylvia are both members here at the WF. There is a trial period and I know these people now, If you dont think its great, they will give you your money back.

I was thinking of starting a thread here about this, thats how impressed I am, this course could be one of those $1500 a month AND BE WORTH IT!!!!!

It is something that is hard to explain because I am not good at putting my thoughts into words, so in one word its great.

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by russmarsha

This is the real deal, Vince and sylvia are both members here at the WF. There is a trial period and I know these people now, If you dont think its great, they will give you your money back.

I was thinking of starting a thread here about this, thats how impressed I am, this course could be one of those $1500 a month AND BE WORTH IT!!!!!

It is something that is hard to explain because I am not good at putting my thoughts into words, so in one word its great.

Russmarsha,

Thank you for the info and your strong words in believing in "Barter Arbitrage".

Peace.

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Harrgrim 14 years ago

I have to agree fully with Joe and everyone else here. I am also just a student. Been Had with the best of them, Many time. The best way I could describe it is,
Amazing! Vence and Sylvia are just as they present themselves to be. They are Workers, People that are doing what they are telling you to do.
Vince Veges Vince Man is incredible, This guy is so real I truly believe if you do what he teaches "anyone" Can do this.
You get so much more from this information than MONEY could ever Buy. This is Live
I made my first deal on the second day of this coarse and I will tell you that the same deal on ebay I would have made 10x Less.
We have Only begun.
Will
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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Joey_P

Hey guys and gals,

I am an actual student of Barter Arbitrage so I can answer any and all questions that you may have. Before I answer the questions that are already posted here, let me make a few things about myself clear:

First and foremost, I am just a paying student of BA. I am not now, nor have I ever been an affiliate marketer for the product, nor do I receive ANYTHING for recommending the product to others.

Second, I don't bs. I have been burned many times, just like the rest of you, and if a product sucks ass, I will not hesitate to tell anyone who will listen not to buy it.

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Listen, bottom line is this, I know you're skeptical. That's actually a good thing. But I really think you should give this a shot because if you do you will quickly find that it is unlike anything you have ever purchased before.

Anyway, I hope that helped and if anyone has any questions for me, please feel free to shoot them my way and I will be happy to answer them.

Joe

Joe, for someone who isn't an affiliate you have done a darn good job in selling me on this!

Thank you for answering every single one of my bullet points and then some.

I've been in sales for a decade and "Barter Arbitrage" only made sense- using the middleman skills to match up buyers to sellers so to speak. This system is definitely worth looking into further.

Peace!

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Gladiator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Joey_P

*I understand they show you where to "buy high and sell low", but do they explain where to find hungry buyers?

A: Yes they do. But you have to also understand that when you learn to do what they do, you quickly realize that you will be able to sell just about anything for anywhere from 40 cents to 65 cents on the dollar, and make a huge profit. This means that no matter what it is you decide to sell, you will be destroying your competition and they will have no idea how you are doing it.

Because of this massive advantage, you literally have buyers everywhere you look. It is impossible NOT to find buyers when you can always undercut the competition.

Joe

Am I reading this wrong? Shouldn't this be buy low - sell high!

Is this course on selling and closing over the phone or is it done by email website, search and other traffic generating ways?

What products are you selling and what price range are the products?

Andre

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cgqwest

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gladiator

Am I reading this wrong? Shouldn't this be buy low - sell high!

no, read the salespage and opt in to get more info about this program. Somehow you use the barter process to buy products at a discount compared to the typical marketplace (not sure where "buy high" applies, maybe higher than what anyone else is willing to pay in the barter network since you know you will make a profit?), then sell low - since you got it cheaply you can sell lower than your competition.

Any recent reviews from established warriors?

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by cgqwest

no, read the salespage and opt in to get more info about this program. Somehow you use the barter process to buy products at a discount compared to the typical marketplace (not sure where "buy high" applies, maybe higher than what anyone else is willing to pay in the barter network since you know you will make a profit?), then sell low - since you got it cheaply you can sell lower than your competition.

Any recent reviews from established warriors?

russmarsha is the only one that is a hyperactive Warrior who has confirmed this is a solid business to get involved in.

Thanks to all of you who have shared your insight and passion regarding "Barter Arbitrage".

This helps a new(er) guy like me greatly!

Peace.

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russmarsha

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Looking4Mentor

russmarsha is the only one that is a hyperactive Warrior who has confirmed this is a solid business to get involved in.

Thanks to all of you who have shared your insight and passion regarding "Barter Arbitrage".

This helps a new(er) guy like me greatly!

Peace.

There are other hyperactive Warriors there, thats how I got involved, Im going to give you a link its for Sylvia's profile, look at her friends and you will see the biggest member here is her friend.

View Profile: Sylvia Rolfe

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by russmarsha

There are other hyperactive Warriors there, thats how I got involved, Im going to give you a link its for Sylvia's profile, look at her friends and you will see the biggest member here is her friend.

View Profile: Sylvia Rolfe

Thank you for this!

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russmarsha

14 years ago

Just so you dont mis-understand, I am giving you sort of a character reference, I dont know who of her friends are involved with barter arbitrage, Im just letting you know she is a solid and good standing member here.

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by russmarsha

Just so you dont mis-understand, I am giving you sort of a character reference, I dont know who of her friends are involved with barter arbitrage, Im just letting you know she is a solid and good standing member here.

Yes, I understand... Thank you!

Peace.

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savvytraveler

14 years ago

I too am one a student of Vegas Vince and Sylvia Rolfe's Barter Arbitrage course and does it ever kick butt.

I've been trying to make money on the Internet for over almost four years. And sadly, I've not realized the dream that all the programs have promised. And believe me, I've tried more than I would care to admit. I'm in that 95% who can't seem to make it happen.

That's all changing now since I signed up for this course on Jan. 23rd.

My fellow students have paid homage to this wonderful piece of instruction and so they should. Why, because this is the most refreshing content that has come along in my online experience, bar none.

Although barter has been around since the cave man days, the average person really doesn't know anything about the industry, as it is today. And Vince, an experienced and probably one of the most successful traders of all time, had set out to educate anyone who wanted to learn the ins and outs of this lucrative industry. And along the way, learn the trade secrets that the good old boys don't want you to know.

More importantly, he wanted to show people how they could make serious money in the barter arbitrage industry, so that they could improve the lives of the ones they love. And basically improve the lives of the people who his students came in contact with.

Vince admits to not being an Internet Marketer and doesn't want to be. Sylvia is Internet savvy and was/is Vince's web site person who happened to learn about Vince's passion about barter, when she visited his seafood restaurant in FL last year, while doing some web site work for the restaurant.

Vince taught Sylvia about barter during her visit, in a cram course. She took the info and ran with it and has become one of the most accomplished barter traders in North America. And she's our trader.vi

Sylvia's visit and her zest for the barter industry, set forth the reason to create the Barter Arbitrage course. THANK GOD.

My fellow students have told you how honest, passionate, compassionate, accountable, reachable and humble these folks are. I've never been exposed to this level of concern for my well being or for their concern for customer service as in CUSTOMER SERVICE!.

The coolest thing about this course is waiting to hear Vince's next audio installment. It's akin to waiting for the the next episode of your favorite TV show. The guy does stand up comedy as he teaches you about barter. And he wears his heart on his sleeve doing so.

Sylvia is available SEVEN days a week to assist in making sure you get into profit quickly and remain there.

I could go on and on and on. I'm blessed, and would expect that my colleagues would agree, that hooking up with Vince and Sylvia has been the best thing that's happened to us.

This industry is way cool. It's really NOT Internet marketing but uses the Internet as a venue to showcase the various products and services we trade. And the really cool part is you are working with the businesses in YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. You're helping to grow your economy and keep you businesses open.

I'll end by saying that if you want to make a difference in your life, the ones you love or care about, your community and the state of the national economy, you need to join me and my fellow students. As others have said, this is not a paid endorsement. It just the the truth.

Barter Arbitrage will change the way you look at things. You'll feel good about yourself knowing you are helping people. You'll have the support of Vince, Sylvia and all the students.

So come and join us. There's no upsells or monthly fees. You just get two people who are there for you. PERIOD! Get on board. We can't wait to meet you.

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Scot Standke

14 years ago

In two words...

Just Do It!

Oh wait, that's three

Just like Vince and Sylvia, serious over delivery on this one.

I will put my reputation on the line here and say this...

This is by far the best course I've ever had the privilege of being a part of, bar none. And trust me, I've seen them all.

The best part of this course is that there's not a single, worn out tactic that someone had success with and when it starts to dry up, they sell the info to the masses.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

There are countless way to use barter to make a very solid living and the best part...

It's evergreen.

Hey look, Jim Straw himself has used many of the ways Vince shows you how to leverage barter for over 50 years. Just do a Google for J.F. (Jim) Straw and you'll see who he is, one of the true legends. In fact, Jim even promotes this course, that right there was enough to sell me.

Yes, I'm an affiliate for Barter Arbitrage, but that's only because I truly believe in it 100% and I won't make a dime if you sign up, but I can promise you this...

If you don't at least try the $97 7-day trial, you will be passing up one of the true gems to come around in a damn long time.

Scot

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

In two words...

Just Do It!

Oh wait, that's three

Just like Vince and Sylvia, serious over delivery on this one.

I will put my reputation on the line here and say this...

This is by far the best course I've ever had the privilege of being a part of, bar none. And trust me, I've seen them all.

The best part of this course is that there's not a single, worn out tactic that someone had success with and when it starts to dry up, they sell the info to the masses.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

There are countless way to use barter to make a very solid living and the best part...

It's evergreen.

Hey look, Jim Straw himself has used many of the ways Vince shows you how to leverage barter for over 50 years. Just do a Google for J.F. (Jim) Straw and you'll see who he is, one of the true legends. In fact, Jim even promotes this course, that right there was enough to sell me.

Yes, I'm an affiliate for Barter Arbitrage, but that's only because I truly believe in it 100% and I won't make a dime if you sign up, but I can promise you this...

If you don't at least try the $97 7-day trial, you will be passing up one of the true gems to come around in a damn long time.

Scot

Thank you, Scot. I believe myself and others were looking for one more final stamp of approval from a Veteran Warrior.

It looks to be very solid and realistic business system.

Thank you for sharing!

Peace.

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Mike Viskovich

14 years ago

How much of this system is applicable for 'internet only' use?
I'm not very good on the phone, and going into local businesses is not really my thing.

Would it be worth it for me to buy this system considering the above?

Thanks!

-Mike

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oneplusone

14 years ago

I have a question please for anyone who has purchased this.

Does this work in countries outside the USA like the UK, Australia?

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davidjames42973

14 years ago

Hey everybody,

Barter Arbitrage is excellent! I'm a member too and I have to say that out of my 3 years of online marketing and being a part of tons of make money online products, this is the most original product and idea that I've ever seen.

Yes this works for any country you're in. Read all of the reviews on this post and you'll find nothing but truth. This product over delivers!

Vince and Sylvia show you how to find products and services and add them to a barter site called ITEX. ITEX is one of the biggest bartering websites around. If you go to ITEX and search around, you might not find a lot of products, but the secret behind ITEX is there are various Fortune 500 companies that belong to this site, but they don't advertise their goods on the site. The only way you can find them is by having a bartering broker to find all the good deals.

If you decided to get into trading on your own, you would still have to pay $200 to become a member of ITEX. With this course, your ITEX fee is waived.

The way that you make lots of trade dollars is to provide a service or something on the site that you can hike up how much it cost in trade dollars. If you have something original for trade, you'll be bombarded with emails and trade dollars. I actually had to put on of my ITEX trades on hold because I couldn't keep up with the demand.

There's a lot more to this course than what you've read here, but some of the things you can do with your trade dollars is buy high tickets items for dirt cheap and turn around and sell them cheaper than anybody else and make a killing.

This product gets a 10 out of 10...

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George Benson

14 years ago

IMO you can't go wrong to give it a try. I signed up and, well I'm a busy guy. I got through the first 7 or 8 modules and was still hearing only two or three points that Vince is clearly passionate about. In the first 8 modules I listened to (took about four hours of my time) I heard Vince repeat in more possible ways than I could imagine:

1. The truth about the barter business is a conspiratorially kept secret .
2. You can make a lot of money by exploiting disparities in the value of trade dollars.
3. You make money by exploiting the huge disparities to be found in how merchants value things.

When I emailed Sylvia for assistance she was extremely prompt. I recently got a refund that was processed within an hour of requesting it -- on a Sunday no less.

Unfortunately a confluence of events led me to decide to get a refund. First I needed a lot more "how to" information much sooner to hold my attention. For me it was like the sales pitch continued to emphasize the above points through roughly the first 1/2 of the modules. My thinking as I kept listening to hour after hour was "stop telling me how great this business is -- and start telling me how it works".

I'm sure Vince gets to that at some point -- but my time is worth something -- please don't waste it -- I bought your program because I was already convinced it was good. Please stop telling me how great it is and give me the meat. For example: One audio devoted totally to emphasizing point number 1 (above) continued into the next audio and spent the first 15 minutes devoted to discussing how important it was to have included the previous audio. I did not hear anything in either audio that was not covered substantially in the previous several modules.

I'm confident that Vince most likely delivers on his promise. However what kind of got me off track was that just as I was getting to the modules that may have begun to tell me how to construct this business -- I could not log in. I sent a support request and got a prompt reply that there was a technical glitch and that I'd be sent instructions to reapply. After about three weeks I did not see any new login instructions yet. I ran out of inspiration and got too busy with other projects to continue working on this so I requested a refund. As I mentioned above it was honored immediately, during non-business hours, and with zero hassle.

My suggestions to improve this:

1. Have someone write down the key points from the first 8 modules and put them into a 15 minute audio. During that audio tell people where to find the lean content. I heard "I'm gonna show you how to..." more times than I could count. But I never got past the "telling" to find the "showing".
2. Create a single login that gives members access to everything. I found it confusing to manage two sets of login credentials to access one product.

For anyone that has never been involved in barter I'd recommend this course. The worst that can happen to you is that you'll have 60 days to discover whether you can make this business work for you. It would help anyone to understand the industry and this is a decent way to learn it if you don't mind the drip feed approach to content acquisition.

IMO you've got to be a bit of a treasure hunter, pawn broker, wheeler dealer, to be effective in this business. If you are already very busy don't assume that this is a quick way to make a lot of money without working at it. However I get the impression that Vince and Sylvia are ready to provide you with the help and support you'll need to find a way to make money and learn the business at the same time. In a way I wish I'd had more time to devote to this -- but I came to the conclusion that I simply didn't have enough time to merge it into my current activities.

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by George Benson

IMO you can't go wrong to give it a try. I signed up and, well I'm a busy guy. I got through the first 7 or 8 modules and was still hearing only two or three points that Vince is clearly passionate about. In the first 8 modules I listened to (took about four hours of my time) I heard Vince repeat in more possible ways than I could imagine:

1. The truth about the barter business is a conspiratorially kept secret .
2. You can make a lot of money by exploiting disparities in the value of trade dollars.
3. You make money by exploiting the huge disparities to be found in how merchants value things.

When I emailed Sylvia for assistance she was extremely prompt. I recently got a refund that was processed within an hour of requesting it -- on a Sunday no less.
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For anyone that has never been involved in barter I'd recommend this course. The worst that can happen to you is that you'll have 60 days to discover whether you can make this business work for you. It would help anyone to understand the industry and this is a decent way to learn it if you don't mind the drip feed approach to content acquisition.

IMO you've got to be a bit of a treasure hunter, pawn broker, wheeler dealer, to be effective in this business. If you are already very busy don't assume that this is a quick way to make a lot of money without working at it. However I get the impression that Vince and Sylvia are ready to provide you with the help and support you'll need to find a way to make money and learn the business at the same time. In a way I wish I'd had more time to devote to this -- but I came to the conclusion that I simply didn't have enough time to merge it into my current activities.

I appreciate your honesty! It is always good to hear the good's with the bad's. I hope that readers and creators alike will take what you said to some consideration.

Peace.

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Gladiator

14 years ago

First I want to say that if Scott is putting his reputation on the line here I feel that it is a save bet that it a good money making course!

Thanks for the reviews guys. I have to say that it was difficult to get through the sales letter as I read it all lol

Originally Posted by George Benson

My thinking as I kept listening to hour after hour was "stop telling me how great this business is -- and start telling me how it works".

Also after reading this I get the same feeling with the course that i got reading the sales letter!

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

Hey look, Jim Straw himself has used many of the ways Vince shows you how to leverage barter for over 50 years. Just do a Google for J.F. (Jim) Straw and you'll see who he is, one of the true legends. In fact, Jim even promotes this course, that right there was enough to sell me.Scot

However it will take a allot of work calling closing and there might be many kicked deals so you would have to keep your spirits up and not quit!

One example that the sales letter has is with Jim Straw who has been around a very long time and a very good seasoned closer, Well reading the way the deal went down I can tell you that there was allot of work calling and closing.

Andre

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Sylvia Meier

14 years ago

Thanks everyone for your great posts on Barter Arbitrage, including George.

Barter Arbitrage is a real business model, not just a get rich quick thing, so yah, if you are looking for the quick not consistant buck, keep looking. If you are looking to build a business model, and create a sustainable income, it could be more for you.

The issue George pointed out about the login has been resolved, and like all new sites, some do have those growing pains, but we got past it and the site is even better because of them, and we do thank our members for their patience during that semi-chaotic time. And I am sorry George you never got your follow up email, some servers don't seem to allow our emails through.

In terms of Vince's audios, if you've ever listened to his blog talk radio show Business online radio shows and marketing internet talk radio by Vegas Vince: Sales and Marketing Behind The 8-Ball | BlogTalkRadio , he is the very same person in the course. But as this course is ever evolving and new content is STILL being added regularly, I think many of our members would rather we ramble and ensure they have the concepts covered then simply us throwing up some information and leaving everyone to figure it out on their own.

And for those who think you HAVE to go offline etc for this, truth is you don't. I think 90+% of my cash conversion have all been done online. I have 5 children, and a couple businesses, I don't have the time for the offline side that we teach. With that said, it is very simple to do it ALL online. A lot of the leg work on making the sales on ITEX etc are done by me and the Toronto ITEX team. We essentially go out and get you the sales on your products.

Middle men skills aren't a necessity. I am not the go out and talk to a million people type of gal, and like I said, because of that, I utilize eBay and a whole wealth of other places to cash convert and source items as does Vince.

As others have mentioned, this is Vince's one and only project, he isn't an IM'er. Because of that, his heart and soul are in Barter Arbitrage. We have helped countless members well outside the hours quoted on the sales letter. We are very available to our members, and many of them have become like family to us. As George mentioned, he was able to contact me and get a refund within an hour on a Sunday.

With that said, between Vince and I, we are always online. If you've got a question we have you covered pretty much 24/7.

If you want more information before signing up, you can always check out the case studies presented at Barter Is Best which is the site someone else mentioned for getting more information about what we are doing.

If you have any questions, shoot me or Vince a PM, or toss em in here and one of us will try and answer them for you.

Thanks again everyone for the great comments and have a great day,
Sylvia

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Looking4Mentor

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe

Thanks everyone for your great posts on Barter Arbitrage, including George.

Barter Arbitrage is a real business model, not just a get rich quick thing, so yah, if you are looking for the quick not consistant buck, keep looking. If you are looking to build a business model, and create a sustainable income, it could be more for you.
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With that said, between Vince and I, we are always online. If you've got a question we have you covered pretty much 24/7.

If you want more information before signing up, you can always check out the case studies presented at Barter Is Best which is the site someone else mentioned for getting more information about what we are doing.

If you have any questions, shoot me or Vince a PM, or toss em in here and one of us will try and answer them for you.

Thanks again everyone for the great comments and have a great day,
Sylvia

Sylvia!

Thank you for coming on this thread and sharing valuable information.

Greatly appreciate it!

Peace.

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DS Marketing

14 years ago

I signed up yesterday. I just finished listening to the 4th module and so far I'm liking it. Vince does repeat himself a lot but I think it's a good thing! I love his style of teaching.

I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.

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Scot Standke

14 years ago

The real meat of the course comes after you get past the 7 day trial period. George, I'm sorry you did not make it that far.

The thing with any sort of teaching is that you need to dumb it down to the lowest common denominator. People have a tendency to gloss over important facts needed to establish the foundation for the course and if it's taught in that way there are way to may questions to handle in the long run for the product creator. I have personally experienced this in several products I created in the past.

Now, if I gave anyone the impression that this is instant riches, I apologize, but that's not what I said.

Like any "Business" there is in fact work involved. If anyone tells you any different, run as fast as you can in the other direction.

Now, for those of you that don't like talking to people, closing and the like, don't fret, I'm that type of person myself. I love to hide behind email and the PC, I'm just not that comfortable being face to face selling. But, if do you posses those skills, you can kill it with this product, it is not needed in many of the modules of the course though.

In fact, there are several ways you can make a damn good living, not ever having to talk to anyone in person if you so choose. Anyone with any artistic skills or Ebay selling skills for example, can do extremely well without ever having to talk to anyone in person.

Take advantage of the one hour, (actually that's just the tip of the iceberg because you get daily answers to any questions you may have inside the walls of the forum anyhow), consultation you get with Vince once you get past the trial period. Hell, he will even tailor a way that fits your style to help you get the most out of the course.

Then you can look at the 60 day money back guarantee, if you can't make a go of it, you can get a no questions refund on the spot.

I have to repeat though, if you are looking for overnight riches, there really are none folks, it does involve work, but you need no special skills, just the desire to better yourself and put forth an honest effort. And this is the truly furthest thing from rocket science.

Scot

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George Benson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Scot Standke

The real meat of the course comes after you get past the 7 day trial period. George, I'm sorry you did not make it that far.

Actually I was in the course a little over a month. Listened to several hours of it -- but like I mentioned I have too much to do to invest so much time in order to get to the meat of it. Maybe the whole course is paced that way. I may never know -- but that is what a parallel fast track would have resolved for me and anyone else like me.

Please don't get me wrong I know that sounds harsh but if you can get past my forthright manner -- I'm not actually slamming the course -- just sharing my own perspective which clearly does not apply to everyone -- maybe only to a small minority of people. Who knows maybe I'm the only one.

I was involved in barter back in the 80's and have already done some of these things and know from personal experience that Vince is not giving out false or even misleading information. I would liked to have incorporated barter into what I'm doing. It was profitable for me before and there is no reason it would not be again -- and perhaps better since the industry has had 25 years to evolve since then. In the hours I spent in the course I learned only one new thing -- in fact it was not really completely new but after about three hours of listening I discovered that Vince had taken the single most profitable thing I had done in the barter business -- and seemed to have exploited it way beyond what I had done -- long before the internet existed.

However from my previous experience I began to estimate the work and time it would take to incorporate it into my current situation and decided that, while it would surely bring a profit and open up new customers for me -- timing wise, it was too much of a diversion for me. Unfortunately I did not get enough information from the course quickly enough to validate my estimates. In the end I decided that if I had not began to implement it within a month that I probably wouldn't any time soon. Vinces material would have ended up sitting in the "ignored courses graveyard". Vince and Sylvia clearly care too much about people getting value from their product to want a customer who neither put their material to use nor got a refund.

Since I can only justify slogging along at a snails pace for so long I figure I may not be the only one that experienced this. That is why I made the suggestion that they have an alternate track -- because I think there may be others who just want the condensed version -- and if they want more talking they can go to the detailed stuff. I completely understand and have no issue with others who prefer the long version.

It is really up to Vince and Sylvia to determine whether it is worth their trouble to make that alteration to the course. Maybe I'm the only one that experienced this. If so no problem -- clearly it would not be worth their time and effort to provide a fast track if only 1 or 2 customers cared. However I made the suggestion and I hope it turns out to be useful for them. If not it only costs me a few minutes of my time to make it.

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VegasVince

14 years ago

Hey George, first of all...thanks for one of the more constructive and useful "negative reviews" I've come across on any review section.

As you know I have little use or time for Pipe Smokers..aka serial refunders, strokes, mooches etc etc.

I appreciate the fact you actually put your money up and gave this a shot.

Many of your points are very valid...and I truly appreciate your honest review based on your experience...and I'm sorry I wasn't able to deliver the information in the manner that would have worked best for YOU.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of our students come into this completely clueless... whereas you'se obviously had prior experience.

Granted it is often necessary to "repeat".... in order to drive home concepts which really haven't been taught elsewhere.

Truth is, I'm not really teaching the "barter business" I'm teaching the "leverage business." Barter is just the medium we use to take advantage of a billion dollar industry that continues to reside in the dark ages on many levels.

And yes....we cut to the chase in the advanced section. This is also a living product that is constantly updated...and comes with live consulting which takes up an incredible amount of my time. Not sure any other product in this price range would or could deliver the personalized service I attempt to deliver.

I am definitely not an internet marketer. I don't play one on tv and I have little use for most of them.

Always figured there was a real credibility problem with those who sell information on "stuff" they themselves do not do.

I do this. So does Sylvia. So do a lot of my students.

This is the only product I have ever put out....other then the original LIBERATION 101 COURSE on the same subject...that Allen Says allowed me and Sylvia to present on a private section of this very Warrior Forum.

Unless I get real smart about another subject which aint likely...BARTER ARBITRAGE will be my only project.

I am rather proud of it.

I appreciate all our students and everyone who took the time to comment.

Here's wishing all of you'se find what ever it is you are looking for...whether it's my product or something else.

Continued success to all of you.

xxx Vegas Vince

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George Benson

14 years ago

Vince I'm still curious to find out what you are doing and when I get a window of time to properly evaluate your course I'll be back even if it costs more. At least I'll be better prepared for the time commitment.

Thanks for responding to my comments and for being gracious about it.

As for you teaching leverage I get that. Around 1985 I managed to pay off a 15k debt with jewelery I got in barter that cost me around 5k. I got hosed on an auto paint job but only came up short on that for about 300.00.

All the best.

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Sylvia Meier

14 years ago

Originally Posted by George Benson

Vince I'm still curious to find out what you are doing and when I get a window of time to properly evaluate your course I'll be back even if it costs more. At least I'll be better prepared for the time commitment.

Thanks for responding to my comments and for being gracious about it.

As for you teaching leverage I get that. Around 1985 I managed to pay off a 15k debt with jewelery I got in barter that cost me around 5k. I got hosed on an auto paint job but only came up short on that for about 300.00.

All the best.

Well when you've got the time let us know. That's great on the paying off of debt using barter and leverage.

Mathias,
The account on the salespage is our ITEX account, as you can see we did 60k+ in a span of about 5 months. Hopefully someone else can chime in though and answer your questions from the membership.

Sylvia

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JoeVincent

14 years ago

Very interesting stuff...

But it sounds like a plan that might require some serious cash on hand to start with, am I correct?

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Matias1021

14 years ago

I feel like i know enough what the product is about. To the people here that bought the product. Im gonna be straighforward and ask for your results.

When did you buy this product?
How many hours do you put in a day?
How much money have you made with this program in that span?

Thanks in advance to anyone that responds.

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Matias1021

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matias1021

I feel like i know enough what the product is about. To the people here that bought the product. Im gonna be straighforward and ask for your results.

When did you buy this product?
How many hours do you put in a day?
How much money have you made with this program in that span?

Thanks in advance to anyone that responds.

can anyone answer this? thread is about to fall to the 2nd page thats why im posting again.

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russmarsha 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Matias1021

can anyone answer this? thread is about to fall to the 2nd page thats why im posting again.

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Hi Matias1021
My name is Russ and I am a member of barter arbitrage, I got an email promoting the program about a month ago, before that I didnt even know barter existed, let alone how to use it.

Now im not going to go into detail about Sylvia or vince as that is not your question.

A simple answer in my case is, about a week after joining,(thats when my trial period ended and full version started) I got into itex barter exchange, fast and easy, I threw up some products to sell using the strategies I learned from the course, in one weeks time I earned 75% on my investment in barter.

Im not going to put up exact numbers as thats my business, but for every $25 invested I earned $100 in barter, thats 25 cents on the dollar to purchase goods on barter.

Now I can purchase items I need on trade, or I can purchase products on trade and sell them for cash (hence buy hi sell low). Buy something for $100 on trade sell for $50 cash and still come out doubling my money.

I am still new to the course and still learning but I have made money on the trade side and bought some items from the exchage for way less than it would cost in cash.

I am learning cash converting at this time, but I have a good sum of buying power.

I hope this helps.
Russ
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- VAInvestor 14 years ago
  
  What % of the course deals specifically with ITEX vs. offline barter strategies?
  
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  Scot Standke 14 years ago
  
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  What % of the course deals specifically with ITEX vs. offline barter strategies?
  
  That's a tough one, but if I had to guess I'd say probably 65% Itex and 35% offline.
  
  But, there are a lot of things you can do in both or independently.
  
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VAInvestor

14 years ago

So if I am not really interested in ITEX, is this course still worth getting or should I just pick up a book at B&N on the subject of barter as applied to small businesses? Any input is appreciated, also from the course creators - you guys are on here right?

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Scot Standke

14 years ago

You can pick up a book but most of the things taught on Barter Arbitrage, I have not seen being taught anywhere else.

Scot

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Matias1021

14 years ago

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Matias1021

14 years ago

You can tell i was bit skeptical in this thread before purchasing, but i bought the course and it is the best investment i made in my life ..

Its not theory like 90% of the WSOs in here, its stuff that just makes sense. As soon as i have time, Im about to put some listings up and get to work on this.

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DS Marketing

14 years ago

Travis, I was able to log into their site a few minutes ago. Seems OK.

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Woody C

14 years ago

Travis,

The site is doing the same thing to me. It appears to try to redirect, then there isn't anywhere to redirect.

It should be up again soon.

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ldarrel

10 years ago

I bought Barter Arbitrage 2.0 but am somewhat disappointed... lots of theory, but no how-to.

Example: how does one print up Scrip so that it can't be just copied over and over, without being paid for over and over???

And, it's later than the last post here (2014 vs. 2010)...

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Zengrafix

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ldarrel

I bought Barter Arbitrage 2.0 but am somewhat disappointed... lots of theory, but no how-to.

Example: how does one print up Scrip so that it can't be just copied over and over, without being paid for over and over???

And, it's later than the last post here (2014 vs. 2010)...

I have to agree actually. I bought it 10 days ago. Very old now. Lots of good stuff however, but you really need to be in a trading scheme to truly benefit. And for that reason I have just requested a refund.

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Michael Field-Dodgson

10 years ago

Very interesting to read such a positive thread - Vince and Sylvia you can be proud of what is written here.

Tell me, I live in New Zealand, a small country of about 4.5 million people - Would Barter Arbitrage work effectively here ?

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Mou

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Field-Dodgson

Very interesting to read such a positive thread - Vince and Sylvia you can be proud of what is written here.

Tell me, I live in New Zealand, a small country of about 4.5 million people - Would Barter Arbitrage work effectively here ?

Cheers and thanks,

Mike FD

Similar question

How it will work for someone like me - from India. It is apparent from the sales page that an exchange like Itex gives you the needed platform - atleast for beginners, however it seems to work only for US

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cypherslock

10 years ago

Vince has stated that you don't NEED the exchanges to make this work and goes in depth on how to do this without them in the course. Trust me, you want this if you're serious about Barter. It's the best out there. And the price is ri-DONK-u-lous!

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