Free vs Paid Autoresponders

by Adino
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I am a new internet marketer on a very tight budget, i know the effficacy of paid autoresponders like getresponse and aweber. But can I really find a free autoresponder that will be even half as good as the big guys. I have tried free autobout, responder and others which turns to be junk. can someone please reccomend at least one manageable reliably good free autoresponder i can use. Thanks.
#autoresponders #free #paid
  • Profile picture of the author NMP
    Good And FREE does not match well for AR's
    You can probably get a FREE at GetResponse

    But all free want something in return. Like GR
    will put an ad at the top of each message. So
    unless you are not going to sell anything that
    may work.

    But if you MEAN Business... do not even try go FREE!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jude.A
      Originally Posted by NMP View Post

      Good And FREE does not match well for AR's
      You can probably get a FREE at GetResponse

      But all free want something in return. Like GR
      will put an ad at the top of each message. So
      unless you are not going to sell anything that
      may work.

      But if you MEAN Business... do not even try go FREE!
      Even GetResponse has changed their free package, now with the Free package you can send your messages to ONLY 10 subscribers.

      I know how it is but just try to get a Paid autoresponder, it also makes you look like a professional internet marketer. Your subscribers won't take you serious if they find out you are using a free AR. Aweber is good.
      Good luck my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author JRoon
    You really need to spend a little if you want your business to grow.
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    • Profile picture of the author BobbyBentley
      Most paid autoresponders are only about $20 a month, which you can probably work into your budget. You could always look around for a free script that you can run on your own server to cut down on costs. Autoresponder Unlimited is an oldie but goodie...
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      • Profile picture of the author DC Marketing
        I am sorry but Free AR's will not do the trick.
        Your list building is the most important thing you will do on-line and putting your hard earned subscribers on a free AR will only result in heartbreak!

        Do yourself a favor. Get set up with your splash page and offer. Take the free 30 day trial at either aweber or traffic wave and start getting that list built on a proven auto responder system.

        But in no way, use a FREE Auto responder system.

        Hope this helps,
        Douglas J Gregory
        "The Transformation Marketer"
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  • Profile picture of the author dr-robb
    You can put one on your own website. A free one is called phplist and may be in your c-panel. There are dangers though. Check your agreement with your host provider first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrs S
    I use PHPList for a weekly newsletter I send out - no MI though and you can't set up an autoresponder. I think if you're looking to drive income through a list then you need to invest in a paid service - should pay for itself really.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lateef Olajide
    It depends on exact end result you want from
    using the autoresponder service.

    If you are just testing water - you can use
    free. However, if you are ready for serious
    business find a way to pay for autoresponder
    service. It is better.

    What you can do.

    1. You can sell some stuffs you don't use any longer.
    2. You put something (of value) up for sale as wso.

    Lateef
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  • Profile picture of the author crolsen89
    I'm a huge fan of AWeber. Right now, the first month of your subscription is just $1. I think it goes up to $19/month after that. It's very easy to set up and use, very customizable, and looks professional You can also manage multiple lists on just one account. Even if you only make one or two sales off of it in a month (VERY easy to do), it generally pays for itself. Having a good, paid autoresponder is just one of those things you'll never regret.
    Highly recommend!
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    • Profile picture of the author francoza
      You can also use email aces. It is affordable too.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrenish
    I am a big fan of trafficwave.net, 1st month is free trial and after that its only $17.95 and you can have unlimited subscribers no matter even if your list is 50,000. They have the same features as you can find on aweber or getresponse.

    Their delivery rate is also the best as audited by an independent agency.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrenish
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Can you tell us more about this, please, and give us a link/reference, Mrenish? It surprised me a lot, but it sounds really significant and worth knowing about ... which indepedent agency was it, and how exactly did they measure it? :confused:
        Alexa:

        Trafficwave.net is the autoresponder and the their deliverability rating, as verified by Return Path, is among the highest in the industry.

        The parameters on which you need to compare your autoresponder is on
        1. Sender Score
          (Overall score given by Return Path for email senders).
        2. Accepted Rate
          (How much email is actually getting through).
        3. Complaints
          (A higher score means fewer complaints).
        4. Unknown Users
          (A higher score indicates responsible data management)
        Fir more info. refer:

        AutoResponder Delivery Rates - TrafficWave.net Email Marketing

        The deliverability rating can be found on
        https://www.senderscore.org/lookup.p...216.166.34.218
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          • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Thanks, Mrenish ...

            It seems at the moment to describe Trafficwave as "high risk" for deliverability, though, and explains that "Poor delivery may be caused by a variety of factors, including blacklisting, spam filtering and email sent to unknown users."

            What did I misunderstand, here? :confused:
            The rest of the story, which indicates:

            We are not on any blacklists.

            There are no spam trap hits.

            There is no record at all of a spam trap being hit.

            The Accepted Rate is currently lower than it's been and I do have a theory about why that is.

            You may notice that the volume graph shows a pretty sharp increase since January when a lot of people began switching to our service from companies that charge based on list size.

            What we're discovering is that these companies that charge based on list size are also keeping bouncing and unknown email addresses. We can only guess as to why but we can't help but wonder if it is so they can continue charging the higher price.

            Our system removes bounces, unknowns, etc... but the trade-off is that we didn't discover them until these clients had moved their lists over to us and the bounced email addresses were still included..

            As these lists get cleaned, the Accepted Rate will simply go back up to our previously established mid to high 90's again.

            In the meantime, we are working on some options that will help prevent this from happening again. We simply didn't anticipate that these companies would hold on to bouncing/unknown email addresses AND charge for it.

            The short version is that clean solid lists are not being affected at all. The current Accepted Rate is indicative of some of the larger lists that have been transferred over and this will be rectified very soon.

            EDIT: It may be worth mentioning that, even with this new accepted rate, ours is still among some of the highest in the industry. Many of the much more expensive services are unable to match the current accepted rate we are experiencing.
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              • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
                Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

                Hey there,

                I noticed this too and I had a question:

                Aweber and get response are not listed at all on this website. It simply says "no data" for their IP's.
                I spent some time researching Aweber's IP's today on senderscore.org and had no trouble finding information on them. You may just be entering incorrect IP numbers.

                As an example, here is link to check one of the IP's that is listed directly on Aweber's web site:

                https://www.senderscore.org/lookup.p...207.106.239.82

                I don't have any of the IP's readily available for Get Response but I'm sure they'd be easy enough to find.

                Originally Posted by ccmusicman View Post

                That makes me think, yes your company IS, in theory, "the highest rated", because the competition isn't rated at all.

                Perhaps you could explain further,

                Rob
                I'm not sure where you got this from. What I actually said was:

                "... , ours is still among some of the highest in the industry."

                I was referring to our Accepted Rate as scored by Return Path (senderscore.org).

                My point is that, despite claims to the contrary, our users experience some of the best deliverability in the industry.
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                • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  Yes indeed, but as I'm sure you appreciate, really, this part of the conversation started off when Mrenish made the rather remarkable (and, as we've now seen, highly open-to-question) statement:-

                  Good point! I hadn't considered that and thought the poster was referring to my own comment.

                  But you may be right. They were probably addressing Mrenish's comment which isn't quite accurate. We definitely run with the "big boys" but on any given day, depending on which IP's you check, any one of us can be at the top of that pile, the bottom of that pile, or somewhere in between. These figures all change daily.

                  The good news is: businesses all have choices and there are a number of great services available with high-end deliverability, features, and benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
    Originally Posted by Adino View Post

    I am a new internet marketer on a very tight budget, i know the effficacy of paid autoresponders like getresponse and aweber. But can I really find a free autoresponder that will be even half as good as the big guys. I have tried free autobout, responder and others which turns to be junk. can someone please reccomend at least one manageable reliably good free autoresponder i can use. Thanks.
    Something to consider when looking in to "free" autoresponders:

    There is usually a significant cost to "free". In this case, why is the company offering you a free service?

    Are they supplementing their revenues with their own ads? If so, do you really want someone else running an ad on your followup messages?

    Are they, perhaps, using your lists in some sort of "safe mailer" where they get to send other offers out to your lists?

    Are they really dedicated to providing a solid infrastructure, reliable deliverability, and best practices?

    Believe me ... these areas can cost a considerable amount of money and if your "free" service doesn't have the resources to manage these things, do you really want to trust such a valuable asset (your lists) to them?

    When I started internet marketing (more years ago than I want to admit), I took advantage of as many free advertising resources as I could. Little did I realize that the true cost for this "free" advertising was my most valuable asset ... my time.

    Free samples at the local grocery store: Good.

    Free tools that you rely on for your business success: Not so good.
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  • Profile picture of the author weareone
    Ok i will recommend you use sendfree.com but if you have a webhosting i can give 2 autoresponder script i bought for $197 which i have the licence of multiple domain. i will give the script to help you out. you will not pay me for that, i mean it i can even install it for you, if you can't install it your self at no cost too. So PM me with your email address and yahoo id i will email you the autoresponders for you to pick one. I will not send you any other mails only the script accept you ask me to contact you via mail before i will send you any mail.
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  • Profile picture of the author samuraiwriting
    I was going to try a free autoresponder recently too but opted for a paid one. Especially since I used their email sign up on my site and had forms that I could put on there as well. It made sense to me because I didn't want to change it months down the road.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanStuart
    I am sorry but you should not let yout list in the hand of people who will have no money to do it for you,at least you should spend $6 per month for unlimited list,my recommendation is this autoresponder service www dot mulxim dot com ( I m sorry cant put a link although I already made 15 post that only noted 7 on Warriorforum)
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  • Profile picture of the author Adino
    wonderful reply from great warriors, there is a new development I just got wind of, I operate a wordpress site and during one of my research I discovered that wordpress has some auto responders plug-ins that looks great. Services like php, and gwa.
    Please I desperately need your review about these services.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Smith
    In terms of cost - have you looked at :WizardResponderPro: ?

    Not free - but a very affordable alternative to the big boys.

    I wont self promote and rave on about how good our service is..... I'm tempted - but feel free to search for any reviews of our customers

    Randy
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  • Profile picture of the author raycowie
    If you don't want to fork out monthly fees at this early stage in your 'career' then try ListWire. It's free and they don't plaster ads all over your email messages. Good luck, Ray.
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  • Profile picture of the author Liesel
    I am a huge fan of Aweber. I know you said you're on a tight budget but your autoresponder is the one thing you should not skimp on. Building a list is crucial to building your business. You don't want to risk losing subscribers, subscribers not receiving your emails or newsletters, or something like that. You should really go with a reliable, paid service.
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  • Profile picture of the author dragondf

    Why? Because a single email to my list is worth 700 to 5000 dollars currently. That's right. And I only have about 1200 on my list.

    This is the best tool you have, so please don't go cheap with it. There are all sorts of problems with cheap/free.
    man, I think I will ask you to sell my lists...ehehehh




    This is the best tool you have, so please don't go cheap with it. There are all sorts of problems with cheap/free.

    1. Deliverability. When I first tried out a "cheap" AR, I found out quick that all my emails went straight to spam boxes.

    2. Protection from spam complaints. Did you know that if you install an AR on a shared host, a SINGLE spam complaint can shut your whole business down. Your websites, your hosting, all the tools you have running. All of it.

    3. Limited resources. An AR is more than just a list of names and emails. Any AR worth it's salt also has tracking tools, special segmenting abilities, custom opt-in box creation scripts, decent set of reports and measurements, and more.

    Nice share. But it is sure when you are talking about EMAIL SERVER... you are talking about sending MILions emails, right?


    I think nobody will create an email server structure to send ONLY spam messages. Maybe they can do it once. And close the company.

    No company allow you to send SPAM. So.. you will be penalized anyway.


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    I don't like AWEBER. Very expensive and the low cost (private labels) has no report.


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