jimsomchai

Hi There,

There is another new product, cracking adwords code of Michael Jones.
It is a high ticket price. Has anyone tried this?
I would appreciate some comments if you do. Thanks.

tommyp

I haven't tried it but it's very compelling and tempting.

Last time I meant to search Google.com for the adwords code to see if I could find a deal with discount or bonuses in the Adwords Ads on the side or wherever but I forgot.

Maybe I'll try this time around.

I got an email a half hour ago and came by to see if anyone had anything to say because he said there are more than 50,000 people waiting with only 500 spots open.

Opens at 8AM Pacific which is 15 minutes from now.

Ah, the urgency tactic :-)

jimsomchai

Hi Tommy,

Yes, it is tempting.

But for the price of almost $1,500, I have to think carefully.

It doesn't matter how much it costs as long as it can help me
get enough return on the investment.

Although the package offers guarantee, I do not want to exercise that.
I just want to at least make sure that there is something worthwhile inside.

Asking for refund is not my strategy at all.

May be I go back to read his sale letter again before making decision.

Cheers,

tommyp

Yea, I know. I looked for bonuses but I couldn't find anything decent. I found one Mr. A who appeared but I've seen him before and he jumps on launches with almost the same bonuses every time and they aren't appealing to me in the slightest. A discount would be better. But at $450 commission (I know because I managed to make a couple during the first run - I was the only one in Adwords for it :BIG SMILE: There are a bunch of "me too" people showing up in Adwords the last time I checked and who knows they may make a sale or two but it's pretty much a losing battle now) if the affiliate gives you even half of that back it's still over $1200.

But like you say I'm not looking to buy with the intention of refunding either, however, in the past I got it in me to take pride in never asking for a refund, but I've changed my mind. I don't ever buy intending to refund either but if I don't like something I will return it now, if there is a money back guarantee. Period. If I didn't, I'd be out a small fortune with a bunch of crap in my house and on my hard drive.

Anyway that's neither here nor there.

The mp3s that come with it are just the audios from the videos. I'd take the option, if he gave it, to not get those if he knocked off $500 because I don't care for that and I think it's just an easy way to justify a higher price. It's the same content of the videos.

I'm not the biggest dummy in Adwords and I know it, but I'm always interested in new stuff because there's probably always something new I can get out of something like this.

He hasn't said anything about the 500 copies from this second run being sold out yet but in truth this one will probably pass me by. I would get it, but now is a bad time for me. If there is never a relaunch in the future, oh well.

Good marketing. I have little doubt there are subtle lies here and there to get people to buy but that's okay as long as the product delivers what it says. Or maybe I am wrong and every word that comes out of Michael Jones' mouth is truthful. I haven't seen it but I have a gut feeling this is a great Adwords course.

But I'm not going to get emotionally sucked in. Bottle line is that I, you and everyone has to look at our individual situation and judge whether or not it is in our best interest to pay $1500 for something, even if you can afford it. Like they say it isn't how much you make but how much you keep.

Weigh the pros and cons and don't get persuaded on the argument that any price is worth something if the value is there. You won't know that until you get it. If it isn't the right time to get something or you are very new there is probably no good reason to fork over $1500 for something.

I do hope that those who bought it through my link are getting a lot out of it.

Last thing, I could be wrong but, as far as that one word Google hates that you should never use that he says he'll tell you in the course, I am almost positive that the word is FREE.

CoralN

Hi, I keep coming back to this thread hoping that someone who has bought The Adwords Code has posted some comments on it, but no such luck. I can't find any info on this anywhere. It sounds very appealing, but very expensive, especially for me paying in Australian Dollars which at the moment is only paying 63 cents to the US Dollar so that brings it close to $2,000. Makes me weak at the knees just thinking about it. So like you tommyp, I might have to pass this time round also. Thanks for your comments.
Hey I thought the exact same thing about the FREE word also.

Kind Regards,
Coral.

jimsomchai

Hi Tommy and Coral,

Thanks you both for comments.
I don't have anything to say further. I wish someone who bought the program comes up with some comments. That will be useful.

Cheers,

davidyui

I have same felling with all of you, but I have no choice to purchase it at the second launch.

The package haven't arrived yet, I think within this week or next. I will post some comment once I received it.

CoralN

Thanks David,

Looking forward to your post.

All the best with it, here's hoping that it turns out very prosperous for you.

Regards,
Coral.

davidyui

Thanks Carol

jimsomchai

Hi David,

Same here. I look forward to reading your comments.

Cheers,

pixguy

The Adwords code- Michael Jones

I got it and I watched it for 2 days.
I will post my comments after dave does.
just to see if my assumption is the same as his.
:|

jimsomchai

Hi Pixguy,

Thanks. Look forward to hearing the comments from you guys.

cheers,

Jim Somchai

davidyui

Hi Pixguy,

May I know how long you waiting for the package to arrived? I pay on another last Friday and until now I still didn't get the tracking code. Already 12 days now...

Please advice me.

davidyui

Hi everyone,

I also bought the PPC Classroom 2.0 which to me is priceless to my learning, I buy the full package for about $500 and the information is great.

jimsomchai

Hi David,

Thanks for the information on PPC classroom. How about the review on adword code, is it good or bad?

Cheers,

davidyui

Hi Jim,

Until now I still not received my package, already 12 days

sylvestor

No although I have looked at it myself. I did try Automatic Wealth Maker by Eric Rockefeller and decided it was way too complicated if you know nothing about twitter/squidoo etc. I would not recommend for newbies. Although I am not a newbie, I guess I am to that sort of marketing.

pixguy

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David,
I got mine in a few days.
Email info@everprofits.com and ask what is the hold up, also make sure you give them some payment details as this will help them with your enquiry.

They have a help desk system as well, which you may need to sign up for and then put in a ticket request.

I have asked for a refund, and they said to wait up to 30 days.
I will see if he holds up to his word on refunding before giving a review guys..

Stay tuned...
PG

davidyui

Hi PG,

Thanks for the information.

I have send them several email and support desk before ask for the tracking code, but they just keep quiet. Why you ask for refund?

David

pixguy

Hi David,
sorry I don't know what to say to you.
Just keep trying.
Did you include ALL your payment information?

PG

davidyui

Hi PG

They have my order detail already and just not provide me the tracking ID. Just wait for another few days see any UPS man or not.

David

joe0074

Yes, I have tried it and then I asked for a refund. Why ?

If you are a newbie in adwords, the adwords code may help you a lot to get going in the right direction from the start. But I'm not a newbie. I have been struggling with adwords for a while now and have bought a lot of ebooks after ebooks about adwords to learn by myself.

To be honest, the information in the adwords code is not something new for me. With that high price ticket I expect to have more unique contents or secret techniques that can't be found anywhere's else.

What you are going to learn in the adwords code are how to do a keyword research using word tracker, spyfu and google keyword tool - how to write google ad which get high CTR - how to optimize your landing paid to get high quality score - how to test, twisting and tracking your campaigne - how to use content and placement ad to get cheap CPC - how to bid your campaigne etc. In my opinion, this information is not really new or secret at all.

If you have limit budget and can't afford the adwords code ($1,594). Don't worry.

I would recommend you to buy: Beating Adwords + Adwords 180 + Adwords Insider Secret
These 3 items will cost you around $ 400 but it covers 70% of what you are going to learn in the adwords code. Most importantly it's gonna save you huge amount of money.

I will get a refund in 30 days but I have to send the CD back to them.

Hope this helps,

Joe

davidyui

Hi Joe,

Is they agree to send you a refund? What do you mean refund by 30 days?

I'm not newbie also but I already pay for more than 2 weeks and not received my package until now, just worry about the 30 days money back guarantee.

David

joe0074

Hi David,

I sent an email to them via support ticket.
They replied me back and asked me to send the CD back to them.
The refund will be transfered to my CC within 30 days.

Hope this helps.

Joe

davidyui

Hi Joe,

Thank

jimsomchai

Hi Joe and David,

I saw your correspondences but I did not intervene because I didn't have any thing much to say.

Thanks a lot for your comments. Keep us posted if there is any issue.

Cheers,

PamelaH

Hello - last time I checked (a couple of days ago) - this is sold out.

pixguy

Well guys,
It's been 18 days since refund request was sent and no refund so far.
Mr Jones has 12 days left to refund me.
Will keep you posted.
PG

jimsomchai

Hi PG,

Thanks for the update.
I think you should get the refund with no problem for a big-ticket item like this.

Keep us posted then.

Cheers,

Cheers,

Jim Somchai,

pixguy

OMG,
This Guy Michael Jones or should I say ( Maayan Marzan ) and his buddy Roy Oron,
are a piece of work let me tell you.
At first he opened up The adwords code for 500 people only...
Then he opened it up again and said it was only for another 500 and it will not be availble again, because his partner was not happy about him revealing his SECRETS ( LOL )

So, I go to the site today... and guess what... its open to another 500...
I am sooo sick and tired of seeing these so called GURU'S using the scarcity tactic
and saying "Only XXX avai;able... "
then 3 mths later they open it up again.
Michael did not even wait a mth to start his push
for more buyers to his below standard course....
Geeees
He has a few days to refund me...lets see what he does.

pixguy

Ok Guys,
Got the refund after waiting not 30 days as promised but 47 days.
They had to wait till the CD I was shipped got returned to them.
Umm, what happens if it got lost?
Do I not get a refund?
Delay tactic if you ask me.
Silly if you ask me.. but he stayed true to his word on the refund.
I have to give him that.
And, the support desk did answer every query I put in.

Now, My thoughts.

He has launched the Adwords Code YET AGAIN.
just got an email...

The Adwords code will launch on
Tuesday 12/02/08 - 8:00 AM PST.

Ummm, I thought Michael was ONLY going to sell 500 copies and then he was going to close it, as his friend ( Roy ) was very angry with him for releasing such ultra super duper stealth never before seen adwords secrets..

Well this is the 5th time he has opened it up for sale.

And he still has the catch cry, "Only to 500 people"


If your gonna use the scarcity tactic, Then mean it Michael.

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Well guys, here is my observation...
I am not new to adwords but I am by no means an expert,
but can hold my own.

A fellow WF member PM'd me and asked me to comment
and he wrote this to see if he was far off the mark about
what I would say about the Adwords Code...

" Dear Pixguy,
Here's my guesstimate:
It's all laid out in a good professional way,
Michael Jones seems to know what he's talking about and the information seems good or reliable and might make sense but maybe some things don't quite come across, and while overall it seems good you wonder whether or not it's really worth $1500 and a lot of it really seems like common sense stuff, much or some of which you have heard before and none of it or much isn't a real big secret, and if you were already familiar with adwords you might be disappointed.


It also feels like you were a little mislead during his promotion because you don't quite feel like you got what you thought you would or you did in a way but feel let down somehow.

Maybe you also realize that there are things involved you didn't expect and when it comes down to it there is a risk and it's not as easy pickings like he made it seem. Buyer's remorse may be kicking in.
Was I way off ???

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Hi, XXXXX
Well, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Personally, I would pay $197 - $297 for the info
IF I was an adwords Newbie.

Wayyyyyy over priced and over hyped.
I must say he is a very smooth talker.
I would hire him to sell my products even, except my
products would offer real value for the price.

But alot of the info you can find by doing some hard research on
the warrior forum or Wealthy Affiliate, PPCC2 etc etc....

Hey, if you are new to adwords, then its chock full of info,
but I still feel it is missing some things that explain it more
thouroughly to Adwords Newbies.

What did irritate me was the fact that,
1.
He said his name is Michael Jones.
Then he sends out email signed, Michael Marzin ???

2.
He kept saying all through the presentation vids that he
should have given us a page graphic on this, and he should
have given a page graphic on that etc..

Well Michael, I paid $1500 for the course, you should have added
ALL the graphics.

3.
And his screen pen was not working while drawing examples,
he kept saying..he needs to get it fixed...
Well Michael, you earnt 350k in 3 months... surely you can buy a
new pen graphic tablet that works so someone spending $1500 can
get an enjoyable presentation.

4.
Also, He shows how he set up his campaigns but showed very little
on how he researched his product choice or Keywords.
( Now, I know it is an adwords course and not a niche course, but come on, I payed $1500 )

In the videos his last sales tally that he told us after 2 weeks was 4 sales.
and after 2 weeks said he made a $100 profit. hmmmm.

I was expecting him to show a great screen shot of how
successful his campaign was after he had finished, but he did not.

All he said is he is in profit.

In my opinion, this course or ( Overview for a better word )
is WAYYY overpriced and he sold 1000 copies at $1500. You do the math.

He even had the gumption to charge $10 for postage.
Maybe he couldn't have taken the $10 from the $1500 I paid him.

Hey, It's good info for newbies but I would not pay $1500 for it.
I can spend a few weeks on WF or other membership sites and get
the same info if I was willing to do the research and not be lazy.

Just my 2 cents.

Let me give you a tip guys...
When you start to promote your own stuff, even if its not in a IM
Niche,
"OFFER VALUE"
Over deliver and you will have happy customers.

tommyp

Yea, I was the one who sent pixguy the guesstimate on what he thought of the course. It was easy really because that's often the case with many things.

jimsomchai

Hi PG and Tommy,

I too repeatedly receive his promotional emails on Adwords code although I thought the sale was over.

Anyway, Thanks a lot for your comments and I think they are useful for the readers here including myself.

Cheers,

john3

Hi Pixguy,

I do not blame Michael Jones for using the scarcity tactic and then opening up the course to more people. His initial target was to get 500 people only to buy the course. But looking at the content of the course, I do not think even a single person from that 500 would have kept the course. Poor Michael would have had to open it to another 500 hoping none of them ask for a refund too.
Yes I was ripped off too. Have asked for a refund and it has been 30 days but no sign of a refund. I remember he charged me $97 for postage. Did he refund that or did he keep that.

John

LoriP

Just a question;
How does the affiliate get credit if the purchase page doesn't point to the affiliate? It seems to be only Michaels sales page! I looked into the affiliate backoffice and there is no purchase page for the affiliate.

need this explained with examples if you have one ;-)

Vjack

I was on the launch list for The Adword Code and had that familiar gut feeling that this guy was a good marketer & a slick con artist. After reading this thread and pixguy's great review, my suspicions are confirmed.

He offered to ask him questions on his blog - but he wouldn't publish mine - so I've included a copy below. The reason I commented was - after reading the other comments, it's apparent that there are some gullible and desperate people who are about to get ripped off. And in my opinion, that's the target market for this course.

His blog: everprofitsclub.com/blog/?p=9#comment-282]The]The Adword Code Launch

If you follow what Michael Jones (aka Michael Marzin) is doing, it's a lesson on how to take any content or a $47 ebook and turn it into a $1,500 product. By using slick launch tactics and turning content into multimedia and printing fulfillments - you create the perceived value. But as a consumer or someone looking for help, you can find better content for less that $50. (below)

You have to be pretty gullible to fall for sales-letter crap like having a business partner arguing and forbidding to release the product. Then he finally wins the argument because: " I had to put a strict limit on the number of members we are accepting."

Quote from pixguy: - "Well this is the 5th time he has opened it up for sale. And he still has the catch cry, "Only to 500 people."

Here's the comment I submitted to his blog:

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Michael,

My compliments to your marketing:

Your launch - videos - and copy-writing within the videos are top shelf. The problem, pain and solution are all there. Great job and a lesson to all aspiring marketers.

BUT ... after seeing your product pricing in the past and anticipating the same with this product - the need for a few questions comes to mind. And I'm sure gman & Daniela as well as others would enjoy your answers.

Why should anyone pay what you will ask for The Adword Code?

Here's what I mean. Suffice to say that Andrew Goodman of Google AdWords Handbook fame - is recognized the world over for his expertise in Adwords. In fact, another world known Adwords authority, Perry Marshall - thanks Mr. Goodman for his early training. Don Crowther, who is releasing his updated AdWords book, is in the same class as the 2 mentioned.

For his $75 Handbook, Andrew Goodman also includeds a premium subscription to the Page Zero Advisor - keeping customers updated to anything new or changes that Google makes. Goodman & Crowther are set for new releases and Perry Marshall's ebook is ready for $47.

The point is - people can have the products and knowledge of all 3 for less than $200. Then the question becomes:

What do you know about Adwords marketing that 3 "known" world authorities don't? I'm guessing that you will be charging "5 times more" than all 3 of their products combined - by turning content into video and raising the perceived value.

If you can't answer this value equation, why should anyone buy The Adword Code?

PS: If you don't post this sincere comment, you'll find it in the WF and DP.

pixguy

I did not want to push for postage and have my $1500 held at ransom with more excuses..lol.
On the scarcity, There is good and bad ways to use scarcity in your launch.
But this just peeves people off when he sais it's only to 500 people, then a week later.. opens it up again, then again and again and ohhh. once again..lol.

pixguy

It depends on if you went to an affiliate linked page or just Michaels main page.
Affiliates need to get a link from Michael to sell it and get a commission for the sale.
If you go to the main site, then michael gets it all.
Personally, anyone promoting this product after reading this thread is a
low life and should be ashamed for promoting it.
Just my 2 cents.

Scott Spooner

For what it's worth, I just checked the site - 7 days after the most recent launch - and it is still up and selling product.

So, the latest "500" has yet to be sold...

ctutt

As a "well toasted" noobie, I've been burned by many of these 'slick' pitches promising to REVEAL 'SECRETS' unknown to anyone else, only to discover a warmed-over rehash of stuff we've all seen before. Have you noticed that their long sales pitches all look alike and use the same psychology? (Circus Barker)!!!

pixguy

Hi Guys,
I don't mind the sales pitch so much as that's just Internet Marketing
and that is why we are here right?
However, What really gets on my bad side is when..

1. They overhype the product to the hilt and under deliver
( Hype is ok if it is legitimate, hey car dealers do it..lol, but when you don't deliver on what is promised.. In fact when you don't OVER DELIVER on what is promised then that peeves me )

2. They PROMISE the "SECRET" or "Never revealed before secrets" and then
you find out it is just rehashed info that you could have picked up by yourself learning from different forums etc..or already knew.
It is ok to say they have a secret or another new way of doing things.. but they sure as hell should make sure that is what they have and deliver.
No BS

3. They overprice the product and the sales copy is good,
so people think to themselves.. hey this guy must think he has something of high value and quality so it must be good...
Well, some products are good... And some will get exposed after people buy them and find out they are low quality or under delivered.

Thank goodness some of them offer a money back guarantee, but also keep in mind that if you ask for a refund, they may take all the time in the world to give it to you, 90 days is not uncommon.
That really gets on my nerves.. they offer a refund and take 30 to 90 days to give it you.

4. The "Gurus" jump on board and promote the hell out of something.
Now, This is fine. If they have tested the product out and believe it to be of high quality. I mean, it is there reputations right?
But when they just Pimp it to everyone..without having any success with it or having people try it or even try it themselves before promoting it.. then that can get annoying.

5. MAJOR peeve is when they use the scarcity tactic and say there is only 500 copies,
then people debate if they should grab it before missing out.
Now, this is totally fine if they MEAN it.
But when they say 500 copies only, then close up only to reopen again, and again,, and again...
you get the point.

joe0074

Hi there,

Until now I don't get a refund from Michael Jones.
I sent a CD back to him by registered mail on Oct 31, 2008.
Hopefully, he will receive the CD in 7-10 days.
It is more than 30 days now. I still don't get a refund.

I send many emails via support ticket, but never get a reply.
Hey, what the hell is going on here ? He really means to rip me off ?

I will never ever buy any product from him again !!! He's B.S.

pixguy

Try to do a chargeback on your credit card.
Or contact your bank and tell them he was suppose to refund you and has not.
I tell you, this Michael or whatever the hell he's name is, is a real piece of CRAP.
Human Garbage.
Why the hell does it take this long to refund someone...
Unbelievable.
Now he is pushing this...
Adsensewealthempire and theebaycode
DO NOT BUY THEM
If you do and you are not happy, good luck getting your money back.

pixguy

Not sure if this is a bad thing for people trying to get thier money back...
but.. Michael Jones.. umm sorry Michael Marzan.. has a swiss address.
Inex Ventures Inc.
Rue Arnold Winkelried 8
Case Postale 1385
Geneve, 1211
SWITZERLAND

Does this mean he could have a swiss bank account?
anyway take this info or leave it.

P.S Did you guys get your refunds?

Dave Fowler

Thanks to everyone's comments here, you've just saved me a lot of time and false expectation.

I'd just watched the introductory video, from a link sent by 'Adsense Wealth Empire' (same people?) and was quite impressed, but I thought I'd check it out here before registering for video2!

To be fair I would not have considered it anyway once I knew the price tag, but this thread has been an eye-opener on the games people play.

Needless to say that's another email list I've 'unsubscribed' to and I've also added my comments as to why!

Regards
Dave

jimsomchai

I see that a few of you have the issue with the product. I am sorry to hear that. I hope you are successful in getting your money back.

Actually, I started this thread just to find out about the information on the product for my consideration for buying. I did not expect for things to turn out like this. I don't mind if the author will show up and express his point of view here.

May be that will not happen....

Jim

tommyp

Michael Jones' behavior lately makes me think of him as one of the biggest internet marketing con men I have ever seen. I am ashamed to have promoted the Adwords Code when it first came out. He also owes me money. About $900 and I've read elsewhere online that others are returning their products and not getting refunds. I don't have any hope of getting paid and don't have much hope that people are going to start getting their refunds.

In my mind he has to be robbing people. For him to say that he can only give half of the refund because the affiliate has already been paid doesn't sound right. If the customer has gone past the 30 day money back guarantee period then they are not really entitled to a refund. If they are within their refund period then the affilate should not have been paid until that period was over.

It sounds like BS to me.

His customer service seems to be nonexistent.

His course was limited to 500 or whatever and has supposedly sold out twice and is doing another run for the third time. Another "Only 500 will be sold and then that's it" lies.

This thread is coming up number two in Google for michael jones adwords code but I don't think people are seeing it. Too bad it's not at the top of page one for adwords code. I think that's the phrase most people are searching for before they buy it. Maybe everyone here who cares or has been ripped off should ping, bookmark and backlink this thread so that it makes it to the first page so that fewer people will be ripped off by this creep in the future.

tshipp

The cracking adwords code now goes by a new name adwords manifesto theadwordsmanifesto(dot)com. New release on clickbank; $77 with $97 backend. Buyer beware!!!

Tony

tommyp

Tony,

The Adwords Manifesto

I was just about to come and say the same thing.

I just saw the video on the Adword Manifesto squeeze page. Same old confidence builder Don Lapre sound a like junk.

I'm not sure if The Adwords Code is the same product but it sounds like it.

The support is still giving me the run around.

I'm sure Adwords Code buyers are going to get extra angry now having bought The Adwords Code for almost $2000 with the Adwords Manifesto now being way, way less.

I have little doubt he's seen this thread.

adrian-adrian

Hi All,

Sorry that i don't think like you.

I purchased the adwords code when it was first launched and I'm very happy with the program...

It is the first program that really helped me. It took me around 2 months to get it all together and now I have 2 profitable adwords campaigns.
It's not a lot, but for me it's a good start...

I read a few eBooks and saw some videos before but the adwords code was clear, direct and very easy to follow.

Adrian