ecurrency arbitrage

captainleisuresuit · 10-10-2008, 12:20 AM

After a good bit of research, I've figured out what "ecurrency arbitrage" is. The program is training you to place adwords ads to send traffic to their IM affiliate program, which includes a pay-per-lead program.

Yep, it's a big introductory course on PPC direct linking, aka Google Cash!

Very clever of Paul Jenkins to call it "ecurrency arbitrage" to make it sound unique. Plus, he's training an army of newbies to be his affiliates (after they pay $297 for training). A slick lesson in marketing here! I have to admire that at least (ok the sales copy is awesome too!).

Does the program work if you work it? An Ecurrency Arbitrage student is detailing his experience on his blog:
eCurrency Arbitrage

Drewby04 · 10-15-2008, 08:51 AM

I paid $297 for Paul Jenkins' ecurrency arbitrage (a complete misrepresention) on the condition of the 30 day 100% money back gaurantee. (Why would anyone spend that much money without such a gaurantee?) After a week of digesting the program, I found that it was nothing more than an affiliate program that hawked Herbalife through PartnerwithPaul. I exercised my option of the money-back gaurantee. I left numerous phone messages and support tickets before I received a response. I was told "the credit card processor wasn't working" and I would have to complete a refund authorization. I faxed it in to the number given (twice) and mailed it to the address given. The mailed copy came back "no valid address". Stay away from any Paul Jenkins program!

ElaineatMileHigh · 10-20-2008, 12:55 PM

I'm having the same issues as Drew - requested a refund 3 times in last 2 weeks and got absolutely no response. I'm now working with my credit card company to get the charges refunded. I have screen shots of the website guarantee, my tickets, and their autoresponse emails. I know that there are risks in doing business on the internet, but this guy sounded good - as did some of the reviews that I've read. I'm really disappointed that he lacks the integrity to live up to his guarantees. I'm thinking about calling in on the next training call and putting him on the spot.

Wiley66 · 10-21-2008, 09:30 PM

I am having the same experience with Paul Jenkins...faxed the Refund Agreement twice, mailed it once, have called and left messages, but to no avail...I still can not get him to honor his 30-day money back guarantee. All I get is excuses...a problem with this credit card company, he did not receive the faxes which go directly to his computer, my mail is returned as having the wrong address...the usual deadbeat excuses. What is the next step? I'm thinking of using the Internet Crime Complaint Center. You can Google the link.
So beware to anyone thinking of trying out his program.

2bwealthy · 10-22-2008, 08:19 PM

I keep getting spamed with that PartnerwithPaul thing. I have deleted myself off the list but still get the emails. 1 more spam then I report him to the hosting company.

What does Herbalife have to do with ecurrency arbitrage? Anyway, call your credit card company and ask for a chargeback. State the gurantees list and note that you have attempted to contact Paul Jenkins etc with no luck.

Paul_Jenkins · 10-24-2008, 06:21 AM

Hello all... I see there are some issue with my
program so let me address them all for you as
they are really quite straight forward items.

First and foremost, let me cover the refunds
as this is the toughest one.

Typically, we simply hit the "refund" button
and provide the refund through the same means
a person purchased i.e. credit card or PayPal.
But we ran into a big hiccup on this program.

We made the mistake putting this program onto
our YourPay merchant account, instead of our main
merchant account, for tracking purposes.
Unfortunately, YourPay froze the account when
the sales exploded. And even after doing a
complete fraud check, they kept it frozen for no
other reason other than they wanted to and the
merchant account contracts of course give them
the right to do so.

Even though this was never our main merchant
account before, after having the YourPay
account for over 2 years, I never expected this to
occur given the high level of business we do year
after year with no issues from our other merchant
accounts.

So to refund the people that asked for refunds
after the account was frozen, the only option was
to send company checks to people. But
unfortunately we have some people getting refund
checks and also doing a chargeback which resulted
in us actually paying these customer double what
they paid originally ...big mess.

But after sorting all this out, we believe all refunds
have been issued. Now of course, what we "believe"
and what the actual facts are can be 2 different
things as this has been a huge mess to clear up
since we have no access to the YourPay account
to see what is happening.

And YourPay refused to process refunds that were
submitted right before the account was frozen.

Add to this the fact that the wheels fell off of
1Shoppingcart (again) and none of the refunds
actually get debited against the affiliate’s account
(this is a new problem 1Shoppingcart just added
in their last "upgrade")

So the bottom line:

A. You should have your refund by now.
If you do not, then please send a support ticket
into the system (do not send an email) so I can
get it taken care of for you.

B. YourPay SUCKS and should never be
considered by any internet business as they tell
you they want the business but really are set up
for "conventional" businesses only.

Use Yourpay at your peril!

Item #2 – We do not train people to "be
our affiliates" ... the companies we train people
to profit from are not companies that we own or
have any affiliation with other than the fact that
we also make money from these very same
companies and they have proven to have high
conversions and reliable payouts.

We do have people choosing to become our
affiliates but that is NOT what we train them to
be ... having people buy a course that teaches
them to sell the same course is an old, tired
business model and not one I would recommend
or participate in.

Regards

Paul

Quote:

I'm thinking about calling in on the next training call and putting him on the spot.

P.S. Thanks for mentioning the weekly LIVE
TRAINING calls. Not only does this show how
much effort we put into our program but it also
proves that we don’t do a very good job of
hiding.

P.P.S. A brand new turnkey website system was
just added to Level 3 (Advanced Level) which
adds a 2nd revenue stream to the existing
arbitrage profits ...and this has been included for
FREE for all customers.

P.P.P.S. I must say that I’m disappointed in you
guys for one reason ... you made the effort to
post in this forum but failed to follow my advice
and use a signature file ...always use a signature
file!

Twins2222 · 12-01-2008, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_Jenkins

Hello all... I see there are some issue with my
program so let me address them all for you as
they are really quite straight forward items.

First and foremost, let me cover the refunds
as this is the toughest one.

Typically, we simply hit the "refund" button
and provide the refund through the same means
a person purchased i.e. credit card or PayPal.
But we ran into a big hiccup on this program.

We made the mistake putting this program onto
our YourPay merchant account, instead of our main
merchant account, for tracking purposes.
Unfortunately, YourPay froze the account when
the sales exploded. And even after doing a
complete fraud check, they kept it frozen for no
other reason other than they wanted to and the
merchant account contracts of course give them
the right to do so.

Even though this was never our main merchant
account before, after having the YourPay
account for over 2 years, I never expected this to
occur given the high level of business we do year
after year with no issues from our other merchant
accounts.

So to refund the people that asked for refunds
after the account was frozen, the only option was
to send company checks to people. But
unfortunately we have some people getting refund
checks and also doing a chargeback which resulted
in us actually paying these customer double what
they paid originally ...big mess.

But after sorting all this out, we believe all refunds
have been issued. Now of course, what we "believe"
and what the actual facts are can be 2 different
things as this has been a huge mess to clear up
since we have no access to the YourPay account
to see what is happening.

And YourPay refused to process refunds that were
submitted right before the account was frozen.

Add to this the fact that the wheels fell off of
1Shoppingcart (again) and none of the refunds
actually get debited against the affiliate’s account
(this is a new problem 1Shoppingcart just added
in their last "upgrade")

So the bottom line:

A. You should have your refund by now.
If you do not, then please send a support ticket
into the system (do not send an email) so I can
get it taken care of for you.

B. YourPay SUCKS and should never be
considered by any internet business as they tell
you they want the business but really are set up
for "conventional" businesses only.

Use Yourpay at your peril!

Item #2 – We do not train people to "be
our affiliates" ... the companies we train people
to profit from are not companies that we own or
have any affiliation with other than the fact that
we also make money from these very same
companies and they have proven to have high
conversions and reliable payouts.

We do have people choosing to become our
affiliates but that is NOT what we train them to
be ... having people buy a course that teaches
them to sell the same course is an old, tired
business model and not one I would recommend
or participate in.

Regards

Paul

P.S. Thanks for mentioning the weekly LIVE
TRAINING calls. Not only does this show how
much effort we put into our program but it also
proves that we don’t do a very good job of
hiding.

P.P.S. A brand new turnkey website system was
just added to Level 3 (Advanced Level) which
adds a 2nd revenue stream to the existing
arbitrage profits ...and this has been included for
FREE for all customers.

P.P.P.S. I must say that I’m disappointed in you
guys for one reason ... you made the effort to
post in this forum but failed to follow my advice
and use a signature file ...always use a signature
file!

i just received an email about your system, it seemed to be the perfect money making program and was about to buy just because your website is set-up so perfect. But, as i normally do before i buy anything i always do a google search on the product and when i type the product out in the search bar i always put scam after it, to see if anything comes up. I looked up ecurrency arbitrage scam on google and it popped up a bunch of bad stuff, then i took it a bit further i started typing in your name (because you state in your website that you are not a popular guy on the internet) letter by letter and by the time i got to the letter "N' in jenkins it popped up a few things but what caught my eye was that it had "paul jenkins scam" and "paul jenkins arbitrage scam" as searches anyone could look up. I would like to hear your side of the story, if you dont mind? Everything has two sides and I dont want to jump to conclusion without letting you get a chance to explain yourself. I wanted to state facts, NOT opinions as I have in this post, and let you tell your side of the story. I would purchase this program if wasnt afraid of losing $297, i wouldnt have though twice about it if there wernt all these problems with current people posting their problems with your product, even BHW has a thread about this system, once again not good. Would you be willing to offer my twin and I what you are selling that includes $297 for free and let us try it out for 30 days and at the end of the 30 days. We either pay or we get out, very simple. If we make money and know you are offering a solid product we will give you the review (or reviews, where ever you want the reviews to be and as many as you want) that you need right now to try to help boost your system back to where it needs to be plus pay you the $300 for the product. You are getting two hard working guys, that believes in your system, wants to make a butt load of cash, and that will impliment this system to the fullest with one-on-one help with you and your team and if it all goes well like we still have faith that it is, then what do you have to lose? Since we came to you with this idea we would hope you would honor it for your businesses sake as well as not let anyothers in to have a test run because they might just want the system, for who knows what reason and then you chance them not do anything with it for the good and then you risk the chance of more posts with sh!t talking. As well as so you arent bomb barded with Q's 24/7. Where we wouldnt get the experience of the one-on-one training we need in order to fully fullfill the review we want to give you!!! You tell us where to post good reviews if there are more than the two threads that we've searched in order to let EVERYONE know that you are EXACTLY who you say you are and the system is exactly what it states in you website. If this is of interest you may pm me, or email me so we can work out the details. If you want to talk on the phone I will be more than happy to give you mine and my twins personal cell number.

twins 222238 at yah00 dot com

P.S.
what better way to get GREAT reviews than with guys (like us) who have never done this method before.

Once again, What do you have to lose?

oegbewunmi · 12-27-2008, 01:05 AM

I am having the same problem as Drewby04, ElaineatMileHigh, msj904, wiley66. I have been trying to get a refund for the last three months and absolutely no response from Paul Jenkins.

I am now working with BBB to resolve this matter. Every other package/program I have bought, I have bought through Clickbank and this should have been a hint.

Techie Turtle · 01-05-2009, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bwealthy

I keep getting spamed with that PartnerwithPaul thing. I have deleted myself off the list but still get the emails. 1 more spam then I report him to the hosting company.

I gave partnerwithpaul.com my email address and within 6 hours the SPAM started rolling in. I only give out my email address about once a week to different programs and such and I always trust their opt-out options. Not so with this site! He doesn't use Aweber, his A/R is a script running on his site.

If you don't believe me, go ahead and give partnerwithpaul.com your name and email address and watch the SPAM start rolling in in about 4-6 hours. I suggest you use a throw-away email address!

BTW, I report this to his registrar GoDaddy.com. I have very little patience for UCE and spammers.

red1500ex · 01-05-2009, 08:21 PM

Has anyone tied to log onto the members area for the ecurrency abitrage website lately, or any of Paul Jenkins web sites. Has he been shut down, or skipped town?

red1500ex · 01-07-2009, 07:28 AM

E-currency / Paul Jenkins update - everything seems to be up and running this morning, must have just been a technical issue. I am going to give this program an honest effort, I will continue to post my progress.

RogerAderholdt · 01-07-2009, 10:32 PM

Just call your credit card company up and explain to them the problem with getting a refund. You will have to fill out some paperwork but it almost ALWAYS gets your money back, UNLESS of course you wait to long.

Good Luck

moises_pk2 · 01-08-2009, 04:53 PM

i got scammed by this

Raydal · 01-09-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainleisuresuit

(ok the sales copy is awesome too!).

Not often I come to this section of the board but this topic caught my eyes
since I wrote the copy for this website. (And thanks for the testimonial!)

I know for a fact that there was an account freezing for this company
that's why there was a problem with refund requests. Things don't
always go smoothly on the internet and whenever there is a hiccup
people tend to cry "scam" too quickly.

I'll hate to think that my copywriting is being used to 'scam' people.

-Ray L.,

manutrade · 01-11-2009, 08:41 PM

Red1500x, I am also following the material and giving it a try...
I'll comment on the progress.
I am a newbie, so perhaps I find the program to be a nice introduction into IM so far.
cheers!
manu

Alothere · 01-15-2009, 12:23 PM

Seems like the consensus is that the sales page is misleading about the product, but the product is actually of high quality?

I'm ok with affiliate marketing and i know that people make money doing it, but what I really want to know is does this course offer anything new? I mean does Paul teach anything that actually works and is not the same rehashed info as Rich Jerk?

I've been looking into this course for a while but haven't taken the plunge yet. Btw if anyone is interested in trying it out i found a link where you can get it for $50 off here e Currency Arbitrage

jamesbgr · 01-15-2009, 05:35 PM

I'm curious as to what e-currency arbitrage is all about. I remember "trading" ecurrencies about 4 years ago and it turned out a big ponzi. It was all done through a site called dxgold or dxinone or something like that. I get a page error load if I type them in the browser now. Anyway surprised this very flawed concept is still around years since it all collapsed.

Techie Turtle · 01-15-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewby04

I paid $297 for Paul Jenkins' ecurrency arbitrage (a complete misrepresention) on the condition of the 30 day 100% money back gaurantee. (Why would anyone spend that much money without such a gaurantee?) After a week of digesting the program, I found that it was nothing more than an affiliate program that hawked Herbalife through PartnerwithPaul. I exercised my option of the money-back gaurantee. I left numerous phone messages and support tickets before I received a response. I was told "the credit card processor wasn't working" and I would have to complete a refund authorization. I faxed it in to the number given (twice) and mailed it to the address given. The mailed copy came back "no valid address". Stay away from any Paul Jenkins program!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesbgr

I'm curious as to what e-currency arbitrage is all about. I remember "trading" ecurrencies about 4 years ago and it turned out a big ponzi. It was all done through a site called dxgold or dxinone or something like that. I get a page error load if I type them in the browser now. Anyway surprised this very flawed concept is still around years since it all collapsed.

Jamesbgr,
That's what it's about. Google "partnerwithpaul" or "ecurrency arbitrage" and you'll get more than enough information to make up your own mind.

backovich · 01-29-2009, 06:35 AM

How is it going with the program; i have been reading about it for months but there is so much bad press that i have given up on the idea.

good luck Paul

Paul_Jenkins · 02-03-2009, 04:25 PM

Here's an easy way to see what people really think of
my program. Listen to this mp3 recording of my FREE
training call from a few weeks ago.

There will be a lot of details that make little sense when
taken out of content ...BUT ...what I want you to listen
to is the very positive things the callers have to say
about:

>> The Program in General

>> The Quality of my Step-By-Step Videos

>> Live Support

>> The Free Bonus Custom Website System (all self contained)

>> ...and most of all, the fact they are Making Money

I can please all the people some of the time, and some of the
people all the time, but I cannot please all the people all the
time.

And this will strike some as very rude ... but I really do not have the
energy nor the ability to help those that will not help themselves.
The simple fact that people can show up on the live calls at anytime
should be a strong indicator that some of these folks complaining
about no support, etc, might just be the same folks that have not
given this product a fair chance of success or put in the effort
necessary to give themselves a fair chance at online success.

I choose to focus on the people that want help, that want to make
a living online from home, that are willing to show up for my help ...

But again, I want you to be able to hear the feedback from real people
that show up to the calls and then decide whether I'm fulfilling my promise
to these people truly giving me and my product a fair chance.

You can download the mp3 in my signature file ...discover the truth
1st hand.

Regards

Paul Jenkins

WolfKC · 02-09-2009, 01:49 PM

Hi Everyone:

Yes Ecurrency Arbitrage by Paul Jenkins is not what he promises. They don't have live help, it is a recording and they don't call you back if you have problems, they take your money with no problem, but do not return your money to you if you are not happy with it as promised, no matter how hard you try to get your money back. You might as well say GOOD BYE to your money if you try it, because you will never see it again. Dani Mendez at Guru Busters tells everyone that it is her #1 choice at making money (that is how I got suckered in to this scam). I believed her. What a mistake! Of course the reason why she would say that is because she makes money off of everyone that joins as a referral from her! That is how you make money through this! You are the middle person who puts ads places and tries to get people to order what the company is selling or giving away, and if the person does request the information you get a small payment ($2.00 for one of the companies). So imagine how many people you would have to get to make any money at this and how much it would cost to advertise and learn google adwords. I am still fighting to get my money back and will not quit until I do. So save your money for something that is not a scam and it is my opinion that Guru Busters is not truthful either. All I wanted was my money back and they refused. Now I feel it is my duty to tell as many of you as I can, what the truth is! Don't fall into this as I did because if you do, you will never see your money again!

rbowen · 02-09-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewby04

I paid $297 for Paul Jenkins' ecurrency arbitrage (a complete misrepresention) on the condition of the 30 day 100% money back gaurantee. (Why would anyone spend that much money without such a gaurantee?) After a week of digesting the program, I found that it was nothing more than an affiliate program that hawked Herbalife through PartnerwithPaul. I exercised my option of the money-back gaurantee. I left numerous phone messages and support tickets before I received a response. I was told "the credit card processor wasn't working" and I would have to complete a refund authorization. I faxed it in to the number given (twice) and mailed it to the address given. The mailed copy came back "no valid address". Stay away from any Paul Jenkins program!

I found a very effective way of getting to people like this guy (at least from what you allege about this guy) by reporting him to ripoff.com They get a lot of traction and whenever someone searches his name, they'll likely see your report (complaint.) Worked for me once before.

Richard

cash4yam · 02-15-2009, 12:30 PM

Hi all, I purchased Paul Jenkins program on Jan 18th 2009 and paid my $297.00 + shipping like most of you. On 02/04/09, I decided that the program was not what I expected, and I asked for a refund by submitting a "Ticket".
On 02/05, I called the number listed on my credit card charge for the program and talked instantly to a lady named Sherry who said she would look into getting my refund processed promptly. That number is (307) 460-4603. The same day, Paul replied to the ticket asking me what was keeping me from succeeding with the system. I replied that after reviewing the program, I felt that internet marketing was not a business venture that I wish to pursue. All I was asking is that he would honor his 30 day money back guarantee. On 02/06 Paul replied to me, giving me a RMA number and instructions to proceed with sending the material back to his fulfillment center.

I send the package by Priority mail, insured and with a Signature Confirmation on 02/10/09. USPS emailed me that they delivered the package on 02/12. By 02/14 my credit card charge was reversed for the full amount less the shipping charges, as agreed by the 30 day money back guarantee.

By following Paul's instructions exactly, I had no problem getting my refund. Hope this clarify things for those of you that have a problem with Paul Jenkins.

Blondmoo · 02-15-2009, 12:53 PM

Glad I read this thread!!!

SeanK · 02-18-2009, 09:52 PM

I just spent two hours on one of Paul Jenkins' regular conference calls that he has with his students. The level of support that you receive through these training calls is fantastic and the patience that he showed (no question thrown out by his students was too small or too dumb) was incredible. I was left feeling grateful for and inspired by his input and advice. Yes, he makes money from the people he trains as affiliates (isn't that the name of the game?) but my sense is that he genuinely loves to teach and cares about the successes, big or small, of his students.

Sean Kells

SeanK · 02-18-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfKC

Hi Everyone:

Yes Ecurrency Arbitrage by Paul Jenkins is not what he promises. They don't have live help, it is a recording and they don't call you back if you have problems, they take your money with no problem, but do not return your money to you if you are not happy with it as promised, no matter how hard you try to get your money back. You might as well say GOOD BYE to your money if you try it, because you will never see it again. Dani Mendez at Guru Busters tells everyone that it is her #1 choice at making money (that is how I got suckered in to this scam). I believed her. What a mistake! Of course the reason why she would say that is because she makes money off of everyone that joins as a referral from her! That is how you make money through this! You are the middle person who puts ads places and tries to get people to order what the company is selling or giving away, and if the person does request the information you get a small payment ($2.00 for one of the companies). So imagine how many people you would have to get to make any money at this and how much it would cost to advertise and learn google adwords. I am still fighting to get my money back and will not quit until I do. So save your money for something that is not a scam and it is my opinion that Guru Busters is not truthful either. All I wanted was my money back and they refused. Now I feel it is my duty to tell as many of you as I can, what the truth is! Don't fall into this as I did because if you do, you will never see your money again!

I am getting great help through submitting support tickets. Admittedly, there's the odd glitch here and there but I have been getting responses to my questions within 24 hours generally. There were a couple of technical issues that I was still not clear on and I spoke to Paul Jenkins himself on the phone tonight and got full answers to everything I was looking for. It was a live conference call with his students from all over the world. (Basically, he just opened the floor for 2 straight hours of Q & A free-for-all.) There was no moderator running interference and the phone line was open for anyone to speak up at any time on any subject under the sun. Technical questions were addressed and there was a lot of valuable and interactive discussion. For the record, not one person raised a complaint about Paul, his system or his tech. support.

Sean Kells

HissMeOff · 02-22-2009, 09:49 AM

I have only been doing research on ECurrency Arbitrage and am afraid I am more skeptical than ever. I just received another "automated" email from Paul but the more I "google" the more unsure I have become. After reading "x" number of negatives, up pops someone to negate the negatives. Then more negatives....brings to memory something my mother used to say. "Who lying and who ain't. Tell the other one to shut up." Alas, I am not looking for a get rich scheme. I just to retire from current job and work from home for a few years without selling Amway or Avon.

Paul_Jenkins · 02-25-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbowen

I found a very effective way of getting to people like this guy (at least from what you allege about this guy) by reporting him to ripoff.com They get a lot of traction and whenever someone searches his name, they'll likely see your report (complaint.) Worked for me once before.

Richard

Now really Richard.. with the credit crisis crippling
our economy, and the fact you're hawking some
pretty shaky unsecured loans, don't you realize
that you of all people should be mindful of making
unfounded allegations?

Would you feel it was fair for me to call you out as
"a guy like that" (who would allegedly make shaky
loans to vulnerable borrowers)? You see, even when
you try to qualify your statement, the accusation is
still there.

But to all people reading this thread, you can see
positive remarks from people that actually have my
system, and you can see negative remarks from people
that claim to have used the system (I'm sure none of
these are from competitors) ...but in the end, you need
to make up your own mind.

And the best way for you to hear the real facts for
yourself is to simply listen to the live training call that I've
supplied for you in my signature file.

There's no way I can fake this call (and many more like it)
...just listen and you'll hear for yourself.

Frankly, I find it amazing that people will make accusations
based upon accusations of others but won't bother to invest
a few minutes into learning the simple facts for themselves.

I'm shocked there is not one person that has complained that
will state they actually listened to the call in my signature file.

This makes me wonder if you would rather hear yourself speak
than hear the real truth ...go ahead, listen to the call ... then
tell me I suck and I'll accept it. I'll probably even learn something
that I can use to improve my program.

rbowen · 02-26-2009, 09:05 AM

Paul -

Amusing. What's that saying (from Shakespeare?), "Brother, I think thou doest protest too much!" ... for someone who's so (obviously?) innocent, or at least unworthy of the concerns posted in this WF thread.

If you read my thread carefully, I made *no* accusations whatsoever.

I repeat: I am not accusing you of anything.

I was simply offering a possible solution to people who feel they have not been served well - maybe even ripped off - by someone offering something for a price and then not delivering, or delivering something other than what the average person would reasonably expect. That's all; nothing more, nothing less. But you read it anyway you care to.

In fact, how you read it - or what you read into it - says a lot about you and where you're coming from.

Because my intention was not to offend you (God forbid!), let me re-state my perhaps-too-quickly-written post:

"For anyone who considers that they might well have been ripped off by anyone participating in the Warrior Forum (or anyone outside the WF) and who'd like a possible avenue of recourse, you might look into www.ripoff.com."

I hope that soothes your ruffled feathers.

And best of luck with what seems like a great WSO.

Richard

cncbuss · 02-26-2009, 09:32 PM

Well, my personal experience with eCurrency Arbitrage is as follows. I got on board in November 08, unsure what it was and how I could make money. All I know is that Paul does a FANTASTIC job of making newbies feel that his program is easy to duplicate and will earn you money with just a little investment (or more if you choose).
So far, to be brutally honest, I have lost money using this program. But that doesn't mean it won't work. It just means I need to keep harping away at this and stay the course until I succeed or go totally mad, one of the two.
The thing which is most infuriating is that it is not as easy to duplicate as one would believe by reading the the ad. I am struggling a great deal with my Adword Campaigns (level 2 of 4)and am getting very little help from the Support team. I now have a few options;
1) Keep trying to modify my Google Adword Campaigns to get better results (this is hit and miss- and so far I have not hit anything ). I've learned how complex Google adword marketing can be and frankly, I'm becoming very intimidated by it.
2) Hire an Adword expert (at $100 per hour) to help me get this running more profitably. Spend a lot of money to (hopefully) make a lot more money.
3) Move on to level 3, incest the required time and money in that area of activity and (hopefully) make enough residual money to offset the losses I've suffered so far.
4) Call it quits, crawl back under my rock with my tail between my legs and feel totally dejected at having failed at another business venture.

I've had the program for three months now and I have learned quite a few things, that is certain. So to me, there is value in the educational side of this program, even though I have not created wealth with it yet. Paul definitely has a great deal of knowledge to share and the fact that he participates directly in the live training calls (which are too few and far between in my opinion) says that he is an authentic believer in this program. I hope I am right and that I will be able to turn this into an extremely profitable business within the next few months. I am counting on it to exit the proverbial Rat Race.

Paul now offers the option of signing on a mentor, Dan Kuschell guaranteeing a $50,000 profit in six months. They guarantee to keep working with you until you have earned this much even if it takes longer than the six months. But I just have so much difficulty with the credibility and outrageous cost of these mentoring programs. Who knows what their approach is and what value the program actually has. Sometimes it's just information overload.

Any and all feedback on helping out with my Adword Campaigns would be greatly appreciated.

Claude Bussieres
CnCBuss
Discover my new technique for earning an easy 2nd income

(unfortunately i am not apply my newly learned skill of signature filing until i have posted at least 15 replies or more)

Paul_Jenkins · 02-27-2009, 10:29 AM

Richard

You have an interesting way of saying that you
did not accuse anyone of anything ...by starting
off your post with another way of making / reinforcing
the original accusation... and then following it up with
several more reinforcing statements.

But no matter ... it does not matter what some idiot
says about me in a post (oh... and don't take that as
being directed to you because that would say a lot
about you and where you're coming from ...and god forbid
that I should ruffle anyone's delicate feathers).

All that B.S. aside ...here's the real BUT.

But don't listen to me ... don't listen to the
people saying good things about my program ...
don't listen to the people saying bad things about
my program ...

...instead, listen the training call, hear what real people
have to say about me and my program and then
decide who's really telling the truth and whether
this is right for you (no program is right for everyone).

Like I said, there's a part in that call where I was
dropped ...listen what these people said while I was
not even on the call with them.

There is no better compliment than one given to you
while you're not there to hear it.

rbowen · 02-27-2009, 12:59 PM

Paul -

Let me be as clear as possible:

I don't personally know about this WSO of yours, so I have no way of making a judgment let alone an accusation. All I can do is read what other people are saying and make a decision as to whether to go ahead with what you're offering. Based on what people have been posting, I say, "Thanks but no thanks".

As to my (original) suggestion to Warriors about one more way of dealing with "guys like him" - by which I only meant, guys with whom you Warriors might personally have a grievance - not that I do, but if you do ... for whatever legitimate or not so legitimate reason - then you might want to check out rip-off.com - Welcome to rip-off.com.

If there are no legitimate reasons for people to feel ripped of, then good for them and good for you.

But if (and only if), as someone - perhaps a crazed, paranoid, schizo competitor of yours - claims in an earlier post, you are one and the same "Paul" as the infamous "Partner with Paul" promotion, then I for one am glad I didn't get involved with this WSO.

Hope this clears up my "take" on your WSO for you buddy. Now, can we give it a rest? Salvage this WSO thread as best you can and just accept that some Warriors just aren't going to like some WSOs ... and might even post their thoughts to that effect.

That, from what I can tell, is the nature of the WF.

David Perez · 03-04-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backovich

How is it going with the program; i have been reading about it for months but there is so much bad press that i have given up on the idea.

good luck Paul

I have been actively applying the techniques provided by Paul and so far I have nothing bad to say. If you actually take the time to implement the techniques, it does work. I think its unfortunate that some people have had an undesirable experience with this company, but I stick by it. I say if you go for it give it a honest try. I'm sure if I can do it you can.

Best Wishes

Dave

cncbuss · 03-04-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Perez

I have been actively applying the techniques provided by Paul and so far I have nothing bad to say. If you actually take the time to implement the techniques, it does work. I think its unfortunate that some people have had an undesirable experience with this company, but I stick by it. I say if you go for it give it a honest try. I'm sure if I can do it you can.

Best Wishes

Dave

Dave,

I have also been applying techniques and I can see how it does indeed work. Anyone who calls eCurrency Arbitrage a Scam without trying to put it into practice is just full of hot air.
As Paul Jenkins himself has indicated, just listen in to the Recorded Live Training Calls and discover how authentic Paul is about helping trainees create their own wealth.

Yours in Success,

CBuss

Cserac · 03-05-2009, 12:57 AM

Before joining the eCurrency Arbitrage team, I knew absolutely nothing about internet marketing. After 5 weeks, I have a clearer understanding and realize the financial potential that this program brings. What seperates Paul Jenkins from the other, so called Guru's, is that he will actually speak with you on the phone and guide you through your challenges. As in any business, there is a high degree of commitment and effort that needs to be applied. If those fundamentals are not present from the very beginning, it won't matter what business you undertake. You will fail, or in this case, request a refund.

Durward · 03-05-2009, 03:39 PM

I have been with Paul Jenkins eCurrency Arbitrage System for about a
month now. I paid the $297.00 to get the course and website.

You can start at level 1 and when you learn that, proceed to level 2 and then in level 3
you get a free website and then you can upgrade to level 4.

I know how to write ads and participate in forums so I wanted the free
website. I immediately jumped to level 3 and said when I get this up and
running I will go to level 1 and 2 and focus on advertising my website.

When I got the program, I had a lot of questions, so I called the support
people and got my answers right away and if there was a question that
they didn't answer quite right for me, they told me to get on the conference call
and talk to Paul personally. I did what they told me and my website is up and running.
I am getting visitors from Craigslist and other
free resources I am using.

My point here is that if you do what Paul tells you to do you will get the results.
You will not get rich overnight but then again he didn't say you would.

I am almost ready to go ahead and start my adwords campaign, and there is
not a doubt in my mind that I am going to make money with this.

To know what to do and not do it, you will lose in the long run. To know what they are
trying teach and you do it, You will succeed in this venture.

This is my first post, I can't use my signature.

wells · 03-09-2009, 12:50 PM

Greetings
Or may be I sould say Wazzzzzz....up

I can't belive that a lot people here are going nuts over something or maybe a deal gone bad....giving advice.

..to other members on what to do with paul jenkins Or is it (I don't care about who is to blame I just want to empress people and sound very eliquent.)

************************************************** ********
I bought paul jenkins course for my own reason ( Get basic education on something I Had very little knowledge about.)
and for me after being involved in this IM Bussiness for a bout 3 months
I am glade I did Why?
The Vedio lessons are short and to the point & verry very informative.
Also Paul jenkins help train any member weekly and or biweekly one on one.
Now Does that sound like a crook..

I Wish ALL Crooks were like Paul jenkins The world will be a better Place.

Know for the clue less one's If I am told to go to partner with paul and get an affliate ID and I Decided to join Partner with paul because I am a grown man and I should make my own Decision then why and how is that paul jenkins fault...
I do not know about Paul jenkins personally. But I know him by phone and i'am glad I paid the $297 it's a very cheap Yet fantastic product that begginers must have. and yes you can make money with his program.
Paul jenkins Promissed to teach people how to build income for your self.
He did not peomiss to go get the income for you too...
If you are looking for HOW...TO ... MAKE $$$1000,000,000,000,000,000,
From home with just looking @ your key board and blowing a kiss to to the ENTER Button and have youe AC vents in your house start spitting $100 Dollar Bills Then you really To Call 1-800-Waa-Freekn-Waaa
Or Go To WMW.SlickWillieCashMachine.

Finally You get training and a free website and a lot more than anybody out there for $297 Dude Who else out there is doing that?
May Be you guys that talk a lot of YApppppppp
Need to stay with your GURU's you know the one's that have a vedio on his/her sale page trying to tell you how to make millions while he/she setting COOl On His Stool with bad hair cut .Corssed eyed tooth less Billy BOB Probably in a jail cell and have Him/Her teach you how to get rich fast IF YOU Give Him/Her $49.95

OK People try Paul Jenkins...I have..and I'am Glad I Did.

JohnsonC · 03-10-2009, 05:16 PM

From first hand experience with eCurrency Arbitrage...I am completely new to the whole "internet marketing business" and have enjoyed reading every single one of these posts! I have a background and degree in Marketing, but have not been exposed to online marketing campaigns prior to the program.

I purchased the program in late February and unfortunately have not made any money yet...HOWEVER, I have a wealth of knowledge that was non-existent before and I am only 1/2 way through Level 2. I am going to persist in giving this an honest shot, and my goal has never been to "get-rich quick" which I might add Paul NEVER claims will happen! I am looking to create a 2nd income with some free time I have. I do have faith that if I can "right the ship" and get pointed in the right direction I will be able to generate the $1000-5000 a month that I hope to gain. I hope it is possible!

I do have a question in all this. I have missed the bi-weekly conference call notice! I catch the notices on my homepage, but was unaware they were twice weekly!? I believe the last was Wed. 3/4, but I could not attend. Please keep me posted.

cymonguk · 03-11-2009, 09:52 AM

interesting lots of new people on the boards posting postiive reviews..

malcasid · 03-11-2009, 11:23 AM

Is he related to Andy Jenkins?

Paul_Jenkins · 03-13-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cymonguk

interesting lots of new people on the boards posting postiive reviews..

Yes ... that's because of me.

During my last training call I told people
about this post and asked them to come
to the Warrior Forum and add their comments
from ACTUAL experience.

Imagine that, hearing from real people that
are really making money with my system.

Funny how my real customers have a different
attitude from some of the folks that only "heard" of
my program but still manage to have an opinion.

************************************

Now there is a VERY important marketing lesson
to be learned here and I doubt that 99.9% of the
people reading this will know what it is.

... and no, it's not about getting your allies to
back you up ...it's a much more fundamental principle
relating to the human psychology. If you can unlock
this secret, you'll never struggle in marketing again.

Regards

Paul

Valen Vaughn · 03-25-2009, 12:06 PM

Hi Paul, I have read alot of reviews and posts on what you are offering. Trust me I am very tempted and need the $$$ badly for my mom's chemotherapy. However I see alot of positive and negative reviews and I keep thinking to myself,is it that hard to follow the step-by-step instructions you provided that people ain't making $$$?

I am worried that after buying the product,I won't be able to see any results on my old beat-up laptop which does not even have Microsoft Word. Besides I suck with programs and computers lol.

Sorry but I am a newbie in this and might be my 1st time getting to make some extra income online. It will be helpful if I can get some info on this. Think I need just a little convincing here..so close to buying it now. LOL

Valen

Valen Vaughn · 03-25-2009, 09:18 PM

Ok so...been reading up MORE reviews lately on what Paul has to offer. Apparently many people claims/claimed that they didn't get a refund,still I choose to give it the benefit of doubt that the reviews were outdated since Paul mentioned in earlier posts that the issue is fixed,right? BUT what worries me now is how hard can the training be? Really,that difficult?

I am a newbie BIG TIME lol. That's why I am worried...

There are a couple of others claiming that they need a bigger investment for the adwords campaign in order for it to be successful,but they obviously lack the finance. This is sooo confusing.... T_T I am starting to wonder if someone with experience can't do it at all,what makes me (A NOOB) think I can?

However,what sets me hanging in between now is due to the fact that I WANT to believe in the system and also BECAUSE Paul made an appearance here even when the room is bombarded with negativity. THAT is courage and I admire that in him. So I wanna give it a fair chance except I am still worried about the training (*ahem* Lousy qualifications I have) & the claims about needing a bigger initial investment for a successful adword campaign by some people.

Can someone give me a clearer pic please?

*scratches head*
Valen Vaughn

NettaFranetta · 03-28-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valen Vaughn

Ok so...been reading up MORE reviews lately on what Paul has to offer. Apparently many people claims/claimed that they didn't get a refund,still I choose to give it the benefit of doubt that the reviews were outdated since Paul mentioned in earlier posts that the issue is fixed,right? BUT what worries me now is how hard can the training be? Really,that difficult?

I am a newbie BIG TIME lol. That's why I am worried...

There are a couple of others claiming that they need a bigger investment for the adwords campaign in order for it to be successful,but they obviously lack the finance. This is sooo confusing.... T_T I am starting to wonder if someone with experience can't do it at all,what makes me (A NOOB) think I can?

However,what sets me hanging in between now is due to the fact that I WANT to believe in the system and also BECAUSE Paul made an appearance here even when the room is bombarded with negativity. THAT is courage and I admire that in him. So I wanna give it a fair chance except I am still worried about the training (*ahem* Lousy qualifications I have) & the claims about needing a bigger initial investment for a successful adword campaign by some people.

Can someone give me a clearer pic please?

*scratches head*
Valen Vaughn

I was about to go ahead with e currency arbitrage but decided to goodle and find a bit more info about it and came across Warrior forum.
I myself just as Valen, need the $$$ badly... I am a sole parent/grandparent raising grandchildren. I am currently homeschooling as well as some part time work.. I had believed that Paul Jenkins method would be ideal to bring in some extra income and eventually allow me to give up my part time work to spend more time with the children homeschooling.. It all seems so simple and easy but after reading others claiming that they need a bigger investment for the adwords campaign in order for it to be successful leaves me wondering...

if its too good to be true then it usually is... I do like to believe the best in people but I cant afford to lose money , or the little money that I have..

Paul_Jenkins · 04-06-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Can someone give me a clearer pic please?

*scratches head*
Valen Vaughn

Let me clarify for you:

1. There are 4 levels to the program and
Level 1 is 100% Free. And since it is
free, there is no possible way to lose money.

The down side to Level 1 is that it requires "time &
effort" to make money. Not a bad thing, but not
auto-pilot as Level 2 becomes.

Bottom line ...make some money in Level 1, then
use that money to move up to the auto-pilot
techniques.

Bottom line #2 ...this is not a "lottery ticket" so don't
expect to join up and have someone stuff $100 bills in
your pocket. You need to do the work to make the money!

John_Hayes · 04-09-2009, 03:50 PM

It appears Paul has salvaged something of himself on this thread. Although I have not subscribed to his program, I am optimistic about it in regards to his integrity. I am impressed how he has personally addressed the claims attacking him and his system. The only thing that appears unclear is his claims making profits with almost no risk while working less then 30 minutes a day.

Paul,
If you could talk a minute about what us newbies can truely expect to experience in the "Level 1" stage, you could prevent threads from appearing that call this a scam. I personally would like to know what seperates those who are appaently using your system and not making money from those who do. Is this first stage quite a bit more time consuming than your web site would lead us to believe? Also, why don't share this fundamental aspect of human psychology with us? Thank you for your contributions to this thread.

oegbewunmi · 04-10-2009, 01:03 AM

To all those people who claim that Paul Jenkins's Program is working for them. Nobody is saying it's not working.

The Point is when you request for your 30 day money guarantee back, he does not respond. I have gotten the Better Business Bureau involved and he has not responded either but he has the time to come in and defend himself. You know why he has the time so he can suck more people in. I should have known when he chose not to sell his product through click bank where it's so easy to get your refund if you are not pleased with any program. And he does not answer any tickets either. I have about 3 out standing tickets.

oegbewunmi · 04-10-2009, 01:08 AM

and the only reason why there are any positive responses here is because he has begged people to come on here to write positive things about him but its such a shame that he would not refund your money when you requested.

oegbewunmi · 04-10-2009, 01:09 AM

And as per Steve Albright of reviewopedia, he is just interested in his commisions.

oegbewunmi · 04-10-2009, 01:14 AM

And Paul Jenkins, the more I read your comments, the more fruious I get, why do you think I will have to continue in a program I am not interested in to listen to the good things that people have to say about you. I had 30 day to review the product and within those 30 days, i found out that it's not a program I am not interested in so why don't you show some diginity and refund my money.

10-20-2008, 12:55 PM	#3
ElaineatMileHigh Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I'm having the same issues as Drew - requested a refund 3 times in last 2 weeks and got absolutely no response. I'm now working with my credit card company to get the charges refunded. I have screen shots of the website guarantee, my tickets, and their autoresponse emails. I know that there are risks in doing business on the internet, but this guy sounded good - as did some of the reviews that I've read. I'm really disappointed that he lacks the integrity to live up to his guarantees. I'm thinking about calling in on the next training call and putting him on the spot.

10-21-2008, 09:30 PM	#4
Wiley66 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I am having the same experience with Paul Jenkins...faxed the Refund Agreement twice, mailed it once, have called and left messages, but to no avail...I still can not get him to honor his 30-day money back guarantee. All I get is excuses...a problem with this credit card company, he did not receive the faxes which go directly to his computer, my mail is returned as having the wrong address...the usual deadbeat excuses. What is the next step? I'm thinking of using the Internet Crime Complaint Center. You can Google the link. So beware to anyone thinking of trying out his program.

10-22-2008, 08:19 PM	#5
2bwealthy Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I keep getting spamed with that PartnerwithPaul thing. I have deleted myself off the list but still get the emails. 1 more spam then I report him to the hosting company. What does Herbalife have to do with ecurrency arbitrage? Anyway, call your credit card company and ask for a chargeback. State the gurantees list and note that you have attempted to contact Paul Jenkins etc with no luck.

12-27-2008, 01:05 AM	#8
oegbewunmi Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I am having the same problem as Drewby04, ElaineatMileHigh, msj904, wiley66. I have been trying to get a refund for the last three months and absolutely no response from Paul Jenkins. I am now working with BBB to resolve this matter. Every other package/program I have bought, I have bought through Clickbank and this should have been a hint.

01-05-2009, 08:21 PM	#10
red1500ex Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Has anyone tied to log onto the members area for the ecurrency abitrage website lately, or any of Paul Jenkins web sites. Has he been shut down, or skipped town?

10-10-2008, 12:20 AM	#1
captainleisuresuit Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 13 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ecurrency arbitrage After a good bit of research, I've figured out what "ecurrency arbitrage" is. The program is training you to place adwords ads to send traffic to their IM affiliate program, which includes a pay-per-lead program. Yep, it's a big introductory course on PPC direct linking, aka Google Cash! Very clever of Paul Jenkins to call it "ecurrency arbitrage" to make it sound unique. Plus, he's training an army of newbies to be his affiliates (after they pay $297 for training). A slick lesson in marketing here! I have to admire that at least (ok the sales copy is awesome too!). Does the program work if you work it? An Ecurrency Arbitrage student is detailing his experience on his blog: eCurrency Arbitrage

10-15-2008, 08:51 AM	#2
Drewby04 Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I paid $297 for Paul Jenkins' ecurrency arbitrage (a complete misrepresention) on the condition of the 30 day 100% money back gaurantee. (Why would anyone spend that much money without such a gaurantee?) After a week of digesting the program, I found that it was nothing more than an affiliate program that hawked Herbalife through PartnerwithPaul. I exercised my option of the money-back gaurantee. I left numerous phone messages and support tickets before I received a response. I was told "the credit card processor wasn't working" and I would have to complete a refund authorization. I faxed it in to the number given (twice) and mailed it to the address given. The mailed copy came back "no valid address". Stay away from any Paul Jenkins program!

01-07-2009, 07:28 AM	#11
red1500ex Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage E-currency / Paul Jenkins update - everything seems to be up and running this morning, must have just been a technical issue. I am going to give this program an honest effort, I will continue to post my progress.

01-07-2009, 10:32 PM	#12
RogerAderholdt Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toccoa, Ga / Chiang Mai, Thailand Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Just call your credit card company up and explain to them the problem with getting a refund. You will have to fill out some paperwork but it almost ALWAYS gets your money back, UNLESS of course you wait to long. Good Luck
	Roger Aderholdt "Helping People Fire Their Boss One Person At A Time" www.MyAmazingOffer.com

01-08-2009, 04:53 PM	#13
moises_pk2 Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage i got scammed by this

01-11-2009, 08:41 PM	#15
manutrade Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Red1500x, I am also following the material and giving it a try... I'll comment on the progress. I am a newbie, so perhaps I find the program to be a nice introduction into IM so far. cheers! manu
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01-15-2009, 12:23 PM	#16
Alothere New Guy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Seems like the consensus is that the sales page is misleading about the product, but the product is actually of high quality? I'm ok with affiliate marketing and i know that people make money doing it, but what I really want to know is does this course offer anything new? I mean does Paul teach anything that actually works and is not the same rehashed info as Rich Jerk? I've been looking into this course for a while but haven't taken the plunge yet. Btw if anyone is interested in trying it out i found a link where you can get it for $50 off here e Currency Arbitrage

01-15-2009, 05:35 PM	#17
jamesbgr Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: , , . Posts: 39 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I'm curious as to what e-currency arbitrage is all about. I remember "trading" ecurrencies about 4 years ago and it turned out a big ponzi. It was all done through a site called dxgold or dxinone or something like that. I get a page error load if I type them in the browser now. Anyway surprised this very flawed concept is still around years since it all collapsed.

01-29-2009, 06:35 AM	#19
backovich Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage How is it going with the program; i have been reading about it for months but there is so much bad press that i have given up on the idea. good luck Paul

02-03-2009, 04:25 PM	#20
Paul_Jenkins Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Here's an easy way to see what people really think of my program. Listen to this mp3 recording of my FREE training call from a few weeks ago. There will be a lot of details that make little sense when taken out of content ...BUT ...what I want you to listen to is the very positive things the callers have to say about: >> The Program in General >> The Quality of my Step-By-Step Videos >> Live Support >> The Free Bonus Custom Website System (all self contained) >> ...and most of all, the fact they are Making Money I can please all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but I cannot please all the people all the time. And this will strike some as very rude ... but I really do not have the energy nor the ability to help those that will not help themselves. The simple fact that people can show up on the live calls at anytime should be a strong indicator that some of these folks complaining about no support, etc, might just be the same folks that have not given this product a fair chance of success or put in the effort necessary to give themselves a fair chance at online success. I choose to focus on the people that want help, that want to make a living online from home, that are willing to show up for my help ... But again, I want you to be able to hear the feedback from real people that show up to the calls and then decide whether I'm fulfilling my promise to these people truly giving me and my product a fair chance. You can download the mp3 in my signature file ...discover the truth 1st hand. Regards Paul Jenkins
	Tired of the selling rat race? Discover how to give things away and get paid - Click Here. Hear what others have to say about me and my program - Download the MP3 (right click and save the file)

02-09-2009, 01:49 PM	#21
WolfKC Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Hi Everyone: Yes Ecurrency Arbitrage by Paul Jenkins is not what he promises. They don't have live help, it is a recording and they don't call you back if you have problems, they take your money with no problem, but do not return your money to you if you are not happy with it as promised, no matter how hard you try to get your money back. You might as well say GOOD BYE to your money if you try it, because you will never see it again. Dani Mendez at Guru Busters tells everyone that it is her #1 choice at making money (that is how I got suckered in to this scam). I believed her. What a mistake! Of course the reason why she would say that is because she makes money off of everyone that joins as a referral from her! That is how you make money through this! You are the middle person who puts ads places and tries to get people to order what the company is selling or giving away, and if the person does request the information you get a small payment ($2.00 for one of the companies). So imagine how many people you would have to get to make any money at this and how much it would cost to advertise and learn google adwords. I am still fighting to get my money back and will not quit until I do. So save your money for something that is not a scam and it is my opinion that Guru Busters is not truthful either. All I wanted was my money back and they refused. Now I feel it is my duty to tell as many of you as I can, what the truth is! Don't fall into this as I did because if you do, you will never see your money again!

02-15-2009, 12:30 PM	#23
cash4yam Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Hi all, I purchased Paul Jenkins program on Jan 18th 2009 and paid my $297.00 + shipping like most of you. On 02/04/09, I decided that the program was not what I expected, and I asked for a refund by submitting a "Ticket". On 02/05, I called the number listed on my credit card charge for the program and talked instantly to a lady named Sherry who said she would look into getting my refund processed promptly. That number is (307) 460-4603. The same day, Paul replied to the ticket asking me what was keeping me from succeeding with the system. I replied that after reviewing the program, I felt that internet marketing was not a business venture that I wish to pursue. All I was asking is that he would honor his 30 day money back guarantee. On 02/06 Paul replied to me, giving me a RMA number and instructions to proceed with sending the material back to his fulfillment center. I send the package by Priority mail, insured and with a Signature Confirmation on 02/10/09. USPS emailed me that they delivered the package on 02/12. By 02/14 my credit card charge was reversed for the full amount less the shipping charges, as agreed by the 30 day money back guarantee. By following Paul's instructions exactly, I had no problem getting my refund. Hope this clarify things for those of you that have a problem with Paul Jenkins.

02-15-2009, 12:53 PM	#24
Blondmoo Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Glad I read this thread!!!

02-18-2009, 09:52 PM	#25
SeanK Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I just spent two hours on one of Paul Jenkins' regular conference calls that he has with his students. The level of support that you receive through these training calls is fantastic and the patience that he showed (no question thrown out by his students was too small or too dumb) was incredible. I was left feeling grateful for and inspired by his input and advice. Yes, he makes money from the people he trains as affiliates (isn't that the name of the game?) but my sense is that he genuinely loves to teach and cares about the successes, big or small, of his students. Sean Kells

02-22-2009, 09:49 AM	#27
HissMeOff Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I have only been doing research on ECurrency Arbitrage and am afraid I am more skeptical than ever. I just received another "automated" email from Paul but the more I "google" the more unsure I have become. After reading "x" number of negatives, up pops someone to negate the negatives. Then more negatives....brings to memory something my mother used to say. "Who lying and who ain't. Tell the other one to shut up." Alas, I am not looking for a get rich scheme. I just to retire from current job and work from home for a few years without selling Amway or Avon.

02-26-2009, 09:05 AM	#29
rbowen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Good Old US of A Posts: 148 Thanks: 17 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Paul - Amusing. What's that saying (from Shakespeare?), "Brother, I think thou doest protest too much!" ... for someone who's so (obviously?) innocent, or at least unworthy of the concerns posted in this WF thread. If you read my thread carefully, I made no accusations whatsoever. I repeat: I am not accusing you of anything. I was simply offering a possible solution to people who feel they have not been served well - maybe even ripped off - by someone offering something for a price and then not delivering, or delivering something other than what the average person would reasonably expect. That's all; nothing more, nothing less. But you read it anyway you care to. In fact, how you read it - or what you read into it - says a lot about you and where you're coming from. Because my intention was not to offend you (God forbid!), let me re-state my perhaps-too-quickly-written post: "For anyone who considers that they might well have been ripped off by anyone participating in the Warrior Forum (or anyone outside the WF) and who'd like a possible avenue of recourse, you might look into www.ripoff.com." I hope that soothes your ruffled feathers. And best of luck with what seems like a great WSO. Richard
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02-26-2009, 09:32 PM	#30
cncbuss Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Just west of Montreal Posts: 38 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Well, my personal experience with eCurrency Arbitrage is as follows. I got on board in November 08, unsure what it was and how I could make money. All I know is that Paul does a FANTASTIC job of making newbies feel that his program is easy to duplicate and will earn you money with just a little investment (or more if you choose). So far, to be brutally honest, I have lost money using this program. But that doesn't mean it won't work. It just means I need to keep harping away at this and stay the course until I succeed or go totally mad, one of the two. The thing which is most infuriating is that it is not as easy to duplicate as one would believe by reading the the ad. I am struggling a great deal with my Adword Campaigns (level 2 of 4)and am getting very little help from the Support team. I now have a few options; 1) Keep trying to modify my Google Adword Campaigns to get better results (this is hit and miss- and so far I have not hit anything ). I've learned how complex Google adword marketing can be and frankly, I'm becoming very intimidated by it. 2) Hire an Adword expert (at $100 per hour) to help me get this running more profitably. Spend a lot of money to (hopefully) make a lot more money. 3) Move on to level 3, incest the required time and money in that area of activity and (hopefully) make enough residual money to offset the losses I've suffered so far. 4) Call it quits, crawl back under my rock with my tail between my legs and feel totally dejected at having failed at another business venture. I've had the program for three months now and I have learned quite a few things, that is certain. So to me, there is value in the educational side of this program, even though I have not created wealth with it yet. Paul definitely has a great deal of knowledge to share and the fact that he participates directly in the live training calls (which are too few and far between in my opinion) says that he is an authentic believer in this program. I hope I am right and that I will be able to turn this into an extremely profitable business within the next few months. I am counting on it to exit the proverbial Rat Race. Paul now offers the option of signing on a mentor, Dan Kuschell guaranteeing a $50,000 profit in six months. They guarantee to keep working with you until you have earned this much even if it takes longer than the six months. But I just have so much difficulty with the credibility and outrageous cost of these mentoring programs. Who knows what their approach is and what value the program actually has. Sometimes it's just information overload. Any and all feedback on helping out with my Adword Campaigns would be greatly appreciated. Claude Bussieres CnCBuss Discover my new technique for earning an easy 2nd income (unfortunately i am not apply my newly learned skill of signature filing until i have posted at least 15 replies or more)

02-27-2009, 10:29 AM	#31
Paul_Jenkins Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Richard You have an interesting way of saying that you did not accuse anyone of anything ...by starting off your post with another way of making / reinforcing the original accusation... and then following it up with several more reinforcing statements. But no matter ... it does not matter what some idiot says about me in a post (oh... and don't take that as being directed to you because that would say a lot about you and where you're coming from ...and god forbid that I should ruffle anyone's delicate feathers). All that B.S. aside ...here's the real BUT. But don't listen to me ... don't listen to the people saying good things about my program ... don't listen to the people saying bad things about my program ... ...instead, listen the training call, hear what real people have to say about me and my program and then decide who's really telling the truth and whether this is right for you (no program is right for everyone). Like I said, there's a part in that call where I was dropped ...listen what these people said while I was not even on the call with them. There is no better compliment than one given to you while you're not there to hear it.
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02-27-2009, 12:59 PM	#32
rbowen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Good Old US of A Posts: 148 Thanks: 17 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Paul - Let me be as clear as possible: I don't personally know about this WSO of yours, so I have no way of making a judgment let alone an accusation. All I can do is read what other people are saying and make a decision as to whether to go ahead with what you're offering. Based on what people have been posting, I say, "Thanks but no thanks". As to my (original) suggestion to Warriors about one more way of dealing with "guys like him" - by which I only meant, guys with whom you Warriors might personally have a grievance - not that I do, but if you do ... for whatever legitimate or not so legitimate reason - then you might want to check out rip-off.com - Welcome to rip-off.com. If there are no legitimate reasons for people to feel ripped of, then good for them and good for you. But if (and only if), as someone - perhaps a crazed, paranoid, schizo competitor of yours - claims in an earlier post, you are one and the same "Paul" as the infamous "Partner with Paul" promotion, then I for one am glad I didn't get involved with this WSO. Hope this clears up my "take" on your WSO for you buddy. Now, can we give it a rest? Salvage this WSO thread as best you can and just accept that some Warriors just aren't going to like some WSOs ... and might even post their thoughts to that effect. That, from what I can tell, is the nature of the WF.
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03-05-2009, 12:57 AM	#35
Cserac Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Before joining the eCurrency Arbitrage team, I knew absolutely nothing about internet marketing. After 5 weeks, I have a clearer understanding and realize the financial potential that this program brings. What seperates Paul Jenkins from the other, so called Guru's, is that he will actually speak with you on the phone and guide you through your challenges. As in any business, there is a high degree of commitment and effort that needs to be applied. If those fundamentals are not present from the very beginning, it won't matter what business you undertake. You will fail, or in this case, request a refund.

03-05-2009, 03:39 PM	#36
Durward Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: I live in the great State of Maine Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: ecurrency arbitrage I have been with Paul Jenkins eCurrency Arbitrage System for about a month now. I paid the $297.00 to get the course and website. You can start at level 1 and when you learn that, proceed to level 2 and then in level 3 you get a free website and then you can upgrade to level 4. I know how to write ads and participate in forums so I wanted the free website. I immediately jumped to level 3 and said when I get this up and running I will go to level 1 and 2 and focus on advertising my website. When I got the program, I had a lot of questions, so I called the support people and got my answers right away and if there was a question that they didn't answer quite right for me, they told me to get on the conference call and talk to Paul personally. I did what they told me and my website is up and running. I am getting visitors from Craigslist and other free resources I am using. My point here is that if you do what Paul tells you to do you will get the results. You will not get rich overnight but then again he didn't say you would. I am almost ready to go ahead and start my adwords campaign, and there is not a doubt in my mind that I am going to make money with this. To know what to do and not do it, you will lose in the long run. To know what they are trying teach and you do it, You will succeed in this venture. This is my first post, I can't use my signature.

03-09-2009, 12:50 PM	#37
wells Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: I Live Here There And Everywhere Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Greetings Or may be I sould say Wazzzzzz....up I can't belive that a lot people here are going nuts over something or maybe a deal gone bad....giving advice...to other members on what to do with paul jenkins Or is it (I don't care about who is to blame I just want to empress people and sound very eliquent.) ************************************************ **** I bought paul jenkins course for my own reason ( Get basic education on something I Had very little knowledge about.) and for me after being involved in this IM Bussiness for a bout 3 months I am glade I did Why? The Vedio lessons are short and to the point & verry very informative. Also Paul jenkins help train any member weekly and or biweekly one on one. Now Does that sound like a crook.. I Wish ALL Crooks were like Paul jenkins The world will be a better Place. Know for the clue less one's If I am told to go to partner with paul and get an affliate ID and I Decided to join Partner with paul because I am a grown man and I should make my own Decision then why and how is that paul jenkins fault...** I do not know about Paul jenkins personally. But I know him by phone and i'am glad I paid the $297 it's a very cheap Yet fantastic product that begginers must have. and yes you can make money with his program. Paul jenkins Promissed to teach people how to build income for your self. He did not peomiss to go get the income for you too... If you are looking for HOW...TO ... MAKE $$$1000,000,000,000,000,000, From home with just looking @ your key board and blowing a kiss to to the ENTER Button and have youe AC vents in your house start spitting $100 Dollar Bills Then you really To Call 1-800-Waa-Freekn-Waaa Or Go To WMW.SlickWillieCashMachine. Finally You get training and a free website and a lot more than anybody out there for $297 Dude Who else out there is doing that? May Be you guys that talk a lot of YApppppppp Need to stay with your GURU's you know the one's that have a vedio on his/her sale page trying to tell you how to make millions while he/she setting COOl On His Stool with bad hair cut .Corssed eyed tooth less Billy BOB Probably in a jail cell and have Him/Her teach you how to get rich fast IF YOU Give Him/Her $49.95 OK People try Paul Jenkins...I have..and I'am Glad I Did.

03-10-2009, 05:16 PM	#38
JohnsonC Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage From first hand experience with eCurrency Arbitrage...I am completely new to the whole "internet marketing business" and have enjoyed reading every single one of these posts! I have a background and degree in Marketing, but have not been exposed to online marketing campaigns prior to the program. I purchased the program in late February and unfortunately have not made any money yet...HOWEVER, I have a wealth of knowledge that was non-existent before and I am only 1/2 way through Level 2. I am going to persist in giving this an honest shot, and my goal has never been to "get-rich quick" which I might add Paul NEVER claims will happen! I am looking to create a 2nd income with some free time I have. I do have faith that if I can "right the ship" and get pointed in the right direction I will be able to generate the $1000-5000 a month that I hope to gain. I hope it is possible! I do have a question in all this. I have missed the bi-weekly conference call notice! I catch the notices on my homepage, but was unaware they were twice weekly!? I believe the last was Wed. 3/4, but I could not attend. Please keep me posted.
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03-11-2009, 09:52 AM	#39
cymonguk Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage interesting lots of new people on the boards posting postiive reviews..

03-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#40
malcasid HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 210 Thanks: 10 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Is he related to Andy Jenkins?

03-25-2009, 12:06 PM	#42
Valen Vaughn Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Hi Paul, I have read alot of reviews and posts on what you are offering. Trust me I am very tempted and need the $$$ badly for my mom's chemotherapy. However I see alot of positive and negative reviews and I keep thinking to myself,is it that hard to follow the step-by-step instructions you provided that people ain't making $$$? I am worried that after buying the product,I won't be able to see any results on my old beat-up laptop which does not even have Microsoft Word. Besides I suck with programs and computers lol. Sorry but I am a newbie in this and might be my 1st time getting to make some extra income online. It will be helpful if I can get some info on this. Think I need just a little convincing here..so close to buying it now. LOL Valen

03-25-2009, 09:18 PM	#43
Valen Vaughn Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage Ok so...been reading up MORE reviews lately on what Paul has to offer. Apparently many people claims/claimed that they didn't get a refund,still I choose to give it the benefit of doubt that the reviews were outdated since Paul mentioned in earlier posts that the issue is fixed,right? BUT what worries me now is how hard can the training be? Really,that difficult? I am a newbie BIG TIME lol. That's why I am worried... There are a couple of others claiming that they need a bigger investment for the adwords campaign in order for it to be successful,but they obviously lack the finance. This is sooo confusing.... T_T I am starting to wonder if someone with experience can't do it at all,what makes me (A NOOB) think I can? However,what sets me hanging in between now is due to the fact that I WANT to believe in the system and also BECAUSE Paul made an appearance here even when the room is bombarded with negativity. THAT is courage and I admire that in him. So I wanna give it a fair chance except I am still worried about the training (ahem Lousy qualifications I have) & the claims about needing a bigger initial investment for a successful adword campaign by some people. Can someone give me a clearer pic please? scratches head Valen Vaughn

04-09-2009, 03:50 PM	#46
John_Hayes Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage It appears Paul has salvaged something of himself on this thread. Although I have not subscribed to his program, I am optimistic about it in regards to his integrity. I am impressed how he has personally addressed the claims attacking him and his system. The only thing that appears unclear is his claims making profits with almost no risk while working less then 30 minutes a day. Paul, If you could talk a minute about what us newbies can truely expect to experience in the "Level 1" stage, you could prevent threads from appearing that call this a scam. I personally would like to know what seperates those who are appaently using your system and not making money from those who do. Is this first stage quite a bit more time consuming than your web site would lead us to believe? Also, why don't share this fundamental aspect of human psychology with us? Thank you for your contributions to this thread.

04-10-2009, 01:03 AM	#47
oegbewunmi Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage To all those people who claim that Paul Jenkins's Program is working for them. Nobody is saying it's not working. The Point is when you request for your 30 day money guarantee back, he does not respond. I have gotten the Better Business Bureau involved and he has not responded either but he has the time to come in and defend himself. You know why he has the time so he can suck more people in. I should have known when he chose not to sell his product through click bank where it's so easy to get your refund if you are not pleased with any program. And he does not answer any tickets either. I have about 3 out standing tickets.

04-10-2009, 01:08 AM	#48
oegbewunmi Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ecurrency arbitrage and the only reason why there are any positive responses here is because he has begged people to come on here to write positive things about him but its such a shame that he would not refund your money when you requested.