Chris Grable

I've run myself around this pole for the last hour or so and decided that its time to ask the experts.

I believe that RAP will do what I want it to do now...

PayPal Integration
2 level affilate management
unique/timed download urls
OTO's
Aweber/Getresponse integration/constant contact integration
and more...

Delavo appears to be all of that with a more comprehensive membership management flavor as well as a lot of, what seem like bells and whistles today but might be, valuable functionality tomorrow.

If anyone has particular thougths on either product OR can compare them for me.... I would really appreciate it.

OR... maybe there is something else out there that I should be considering.
Thanks!
chris

petelta

Delavo has rocked my world for my affiliate programs. It's simple to use and does everything you need it to.

Rapid Action Profits on the other hand has gotten rave reviews by all my mentors. I honestly would of gotten that if I didn't get a delavo membership for free. At the time though, I couldn't afford the price tag on RAP.

Chris Grable

Thanks Travis.... Sorry to be dense... Do you mean that the free version of Delavo will do everything on MY list specifically... or were you speaking from a more generic perspective?

Also... It occurs to me that I might not have been clear above. I am not looking to secure and limit (duration) download links/pages.... but rather pages on which flash videos are available for viewing.

Chris Grable

Oaky... I downloaded the basic version of Delavo and have it installed. Does anyone know of any more detailed instructions than the videos and associated manuals on the Delavo site. I'm missing a lot of detail.... at least I thinjk I am.

Thanks!

katm

Yes, support seems to be pretty lacking. I just installed it too, but can't get any of the plugins to work, despite following the instructions. Worse, I can't even register for the Delavo Community forum -- I keep getting "no userid" errors. Hopefully, someone from Delavo will see this and help us out.

Chris Grable

I eventually gave up!!! As far as I'm concerned they owe me the two or three-hundred pieces of paper that I used printing out the manual. I spent 20 minutes or so in their chat support systems and could never convince myself that I wasn't talking to a bot.

After some research I was convinced that Rapid Action Profits WAS the likely solution to my problem. Sid Hale was kind enough to call me and discuss my application. That sealed the deal. Great product, good support and a very broad user and 3rd party developer community. So far things are great!

The lesson here.... You get what you pay for.

Best of luck!

Justin Mandel

Just part of what I like so much about RAP is installing their addons is a total breeze

Also it's a bit intriquing because more and more new addons are added what seems to be every month which keeps things fresh and extremely functional!

Best of Luck!

P.S. Also the RAP forum is *very* good too

katm

I only tried Delavo because Mark Joyner (of Simpleology, which I really got some use out of) recommended it. Simpleology works like a charm and is very friendly to use. Being a web program, it's not perfect, but it has a good interface and is truly designed for babies.

Since Mark Joyner endorsed Delavo, I expected around the same level of ease of use. The promise was that any "grandma" could install it. I dunno about you, but my very web savvy mother wouldn't touch this -- just too complicated, very unhelpful interface, and scattered -- not centralized -- support.


And the killer is that I can't get into the user support community because their registration doesn't work! I'm possibly the most annoyed about that. Delavo being a bunch of web scripts, I figured I'd have to do some hacking and asking.

Delavo should take some lessons from the Thesis (Wordpress framework) community and system -- same level of complexity, way better managed expectations.

infoweb

Hi guys,

As a 3 year long delavo user (Fantasos and them delavo) I can give you one on one feedback.

Delavo support has helped me out from problem in the past, but the support they give now is basically non existent, (all talk no action) and they've never had any decent documentation system there contextual help is always outdated (and often has errors)

Also their new pricing structure means that although they give you a limited free version, you may need to pay as much as $6,000 per year (in monthly payments) just to run your system. (as is in our situtation) as far as I'm aware that make delavo one of the priciest products on the market!

On top of all that, their forums verge on the edge of paranoia with reasonable questions like "will I get support on my existing version of delavo now that the new version has been released" not even making past the moderators and on to the forums.

As a one time fan of delavo - I'm now looking for another alternative - and I'll just call the $6,000+ plus dollars I've invested with them already 'study money'

Mark

Bart Vyvey

I found this thread by googling delavo. I also found this article (Delavo 2.0: Original Post Deleted)
Reading the article and the comment from Mark (my big thanks to you) is reason enough for me to stay far far away from Delavo...

Chris Grable

FOLLOW-UP: Three months later.... Still very happy with Rapid Action Profits. It just keeps getting better and better.

AndreVas

Feedback from 1+ year user of Delavo. Also used RAP, 1ShoppingCart, XCart, Oscommerce, ZenCart, UltraCart, Amember, Magento and 3/4 other very popular ones that I don't remember names of.

Yes, I've also worked with ITOnTap, InfusionSoft, ContactPlus, SalesForce

And in short...

You ADD all above mentioned business-centralization-systems together and RATE them by: Customizability, Profitability, Flexibility

Total Score = 5 (Mid-Range)

And then you take Delavo GOLD (it's actually now $49 per month and installs on your OWN server/domain)...

Total Score = 10 (Best)

Delavo is light-years ahead of any shopping cart/ecommernce package in existance. And same could easily be said for next decade. It's literally that packed.

And Delavo IS THE ONLY system that besides overly understanding online/offline business needs... it's additional tools FORCE your business to squeeze at least 10x more $ per customer... then any other system.

Finally...

NEW Delavo has fixed all issues with potential confusion of use. And it comes with videos for every feature or task.

In overall: if you're not using Delavo, you're in 1980's of business centralization/tech - when compared to Delavo side-by-side.

kimkia

I do agree that DELAVO is designed to squeeze the sales within the central control of the DELAVO admin. I saw how John Delavera, the creator, did for his sales.

The OTO feature is a built-in feature in DELAVO. You can tag any product as an OTO. Then you can include ant OTO in any of your sales package.

I think it help to centralize your control and save time as well.

kimkia

I am John's Turbo Gunsmoke customer and enjoy a 3-year DELAVO Gold.

I wonder what will happen to my DELAVO license if I do not wish to continue with the DELAVO Gold license? (yet to find out from the support).

Is there a catch that I am forced to continue? Anyone know? Bother to post it here before I find out.

infoweb

Hi there,

I just thought I'd come back and revise my earlier comments regarding Delavo.

As I mentioned, I have been using Delavo for around 4 years and until the change of over, it was doing great.

I did have quite a number of issue during the change over and it did take some time to sort out, but Finally, Mark Joyner himself, sorted out the issues for me.

I'm now happily using delavo again and it' just keeps going from strength to strength as far as features go.

P.S. I'm still recommending delavo to all my clients and anyone who asks.

Nomad Warrior

@infoweb, it is fascinating to see that Mark Joyner actually took off his sales hat to help an existing Customer iron out the kinks! From the posts above it is clear to see that they have lots of support issues that still need to be addressed but for those who 'get it' and who are able to learn a highly complex collection of products that help squeeze revenue out of each market.. it sounds compelling... until....

I got a call from a European marketing veteran who posed a few challenging questions to Mark Joyner directly.. including:
- can delavo handle multiple currencies (GBP, EUR etc)?
- can delavo handle multiple languages on multiple offer pages for each product?

Mark is occasionally referred to as the Grandfather of Internet Marketing but in his response, he did not act like any grandfather I've ever met... have a look at his response to questions (there were more):

"Don't send anymore emails like this to my staff. In fact, don't do any business with us. We have plenty of very happy customers. We only do business with people who
conduct themselves well.

If you happened to have opened up a Delavo account, we'll be cancelling it.

Mark Joyner"


Folks,
draw your own conclusions, I really wonder if that is what being politically correct is all about or if Mark Joyner had a Mel Gibson moment!

whatever it was that set him off,
I would tread carefully if you ever need support from the Delavo team

There should be no reason at all for the grumpy grandpa of internet marketing to deal with support issues.

Joseph Then

You won't appreciate Delavo if you are working on one or few products/membership/services.

The keyword in Delavo is: Centralization.

So, if you are one that runs 10-20 different products, memberships, services, Delavo will definitely help manage everything in just one console.

If you only have 1-2 to work with, stay with RAP, DLGuard, Amember, etc.