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Old 03-26-2010, 12:04 AM   #1
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Default Good Karma Machine clone

Although I like Frank Kern's Good Karma Machine it doesn't have all the features I'm looking for so I started to create my own version of his program. I'm not going to use any of the original code due to the "unknown license" so I'll have to create it from scratch and I think I've implemented about 30% of the code already.

Should work on every server supporting PHP 5 and MySQL (no PHP 4 support as its no longer maintained).

I'd like to get your input on which features you'd like to see in there so I could implement them.

I'm actually planning to release the version for free and maybe offer a very limited amount of PLR and source code licenses later, but currently I'm just looking for some features you've been looking for in the GKM.

Appreciate your input on this
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It should work with more autoresponders than just Aweber. Get Response, Imnica, and others.
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Thanks for your input.
As I'm not using any of these I could need your help in getting some form HTML codes and stuff like that. I'll research what exactly I need and come back to you later.
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Thanks for your input.
As I'm not using any of these I could need your help in getting some form HTML codes and stuff like that. I'll research what exactly I need and come back to you later.
Would be happy to work with you to get Imnica Mail integrated.
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More autoresponder services, multiple levels of rewards.
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Default re: Good Karma Machine clone

I'll add any suggestions here from now on:
- multiple levels of rewards
- AR: Get Response
- AR: Imnica (Richelo Killian)
- AR: Mailchimp (RussRave)
- step-by-step instructional video for installation and use that was as easy to follow as Frank's
- reset everyone's referrals back to 0
- easy customization, templates
- add images to pages instead of just creating page with only text (image upload?)
- "forgot password" option

Thanks for all the suggestions. Any more?
I'm just listing these here right now - I don't promise to implement all of these but I'll try
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I'll add any suggestions here from now on:
- multiple levels of rewards
- AR: Get Response
- AR: Imnica (Richelo Killian)

Any more?
lol I was planning on doing these but and add the multi levels of rewards. That should be cool. I will be looking forward to the outcome of this. I'll just wait on this one to be released. Thanks for doing this for the community!
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I'd like the ability to reset everyone's referrals back to 0.

I had the idea of using a site to offer multiple free bribes. So when I add a new bribe, I'd like the ability to just reset everyone's referrals back to 0 (without having them to re-register again) so they need to refer X amount of people again to get it.

This would get people referring again without having to set up a whole new site.
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Thanks for doing this!!

My only request is that you include a step-by-step instructional video for installation and use that was as easy to follow as Frank's. He did a nice job on that.
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I would like an easy customization of the page(s). Maybe just a couple of templates to use, if that would be easier.
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Definitely add more space for us to work in...be able to add both text and video, similar to a normal squeeze page. Franks stuff only allows 6-7 lines of 12 font text before everything starts to overlap.
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Thanks for your input.
As I'm not using any of these I could need your help in getting some form HTML codes and stuff like that. I'll research what exactly I need and come back to you later.
How about any service like that has html?

I use: http://www.webbyemail.com/

they use html code.

And how about maybe a script that allow's the choice
of how many friends we want the users to invite?

That would be pretty cool
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What about including Mailchimp autoresponder?
It's my AR of choice and has some terrific features plus WordPress integration!
If you can swing it I'm in
Cheers,... terrific project,.. great initiative taken!
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I would like to see the ability to add images to pages instead of just creating page with only text!
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Definitely add more space for us to work in...be able to add both text and video, similar to a normal squeeze page. Franks stuff only allows 6-7 lines of 12 font text before everything starts to overlap.
Of course I'll do that The problem occurs with GKLM because it's using absolute positioning rather than the normal "flow of elements".
No overlapping guaranteed
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I would like to see the ability to add images to pages instead of just creating page with only text!
Thanks, I've added it to the list. Very useful feature. This means that you need to be able to upload images or reference them.
I've added it to the list but I can't promise to implement this in the first version.
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Sounds good. You should be getting us all on a mailing list Sascha cos I am not sure I will find this thread again!

One thing that would be useful is to have on the login page an option for forgot password. I say this as a frustrated GKLM user who cant log back in again!
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@justinw: Great idea, thanks. Haven't though about that one yet. I've added it to the list.

A mailing list would be great, I'm looking into this. Stay tuned.

I just uploaded 3 screenshots showing some of the areas in the admin area:
ViralListMachine

And now back to programming the system
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I'm currently implementing AWeber support (I'm not a copycat and I found these fields used in the GKLM which are posted to AWeber.

Does anybody know exactly what they are for and if they are required?

- custom signup_template (Email template for which mail?)
- custom site_title
- meta_split_id
- meta_tooltip
- meta_redirect_onlist

Appreciate your help
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I don't know what any of that is, I'm not a programmer, but Richelo might be able to tell you, or Johnny Slater. I just wanted to say the screen shots look good!
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Kind of on the same subject.

Do you have a link to the Good Karma Download?

I got the link for it back when Frank sent it and then never downloaded it

Anyways if anyone can post the link to it I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

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It shouldn't need to integrate with any particular autoresponder. If you track thankyou pages it should work with them all.

I think the best feature you could offer is a HOSTED solution so users don't need to install any pesky scripts. Charge a small monthly fee for access. I'm suprised nobody's done this yet.


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Do you have a link to the Good Karma Download?
I got the link for it back when Frank sent it and then never downloaded it
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Sorry, the original link no longer works. It worked for some time even after ListControl was sold out but I think uploading the original GKLM somewhere now might be a "unknown license violation".

Maybe you'd also want to wait a bit till my "better clone" has been finished?
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I just wanted to say the screen shots look good!
Thanks - maybe I'll have finished development till easter.
Might be a great easter gift.
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It shouldn't need to integrate with any particular autoresponder. If you track thankyou pages it should work with them all.
Technically that's possible but the problem is that the user himself needs to post the signup form to the autoresponder website which then redirects him back to your own site.

Doing this on the "Thank You" page would still require the user to click on a button and submit the form to the autoreponder site.
I think this is because of legal reasons to prevent spamming.

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I think the best feature you could offer is a HOSTED solution so users don't need to install any pesky scripts. Charge a small monthly fee for access. I'm suprised nobody's done this yet.
I like that idea but just imagine Frank Kern busting your servers with a single email he's sending to his list. Maybe the website should be "hosted in the cloud"? (like Amazons CDN)
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Just created a Twitter Account for the ViralListMachine:
ViralListMachine.net (virallistmachin) on Twitter

Any input is appreciated
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For any autoresponder VLM should support I need at least one HTML signup form which should redirect the user after subscribing to http://www.virallistmachine.net/test.php.
So whichever autoresponder you wish to have support in VLM I'd be happy if you could send me some HTML code for.
Otherwise I have to regret that I can't implement a specific autoresponder - no code, no implementation

Thanks.
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For any autoresponder VLM should support I need at least one HTML signup form which should redirect the user after subscribing to http://www.virallistmachine.net/test.php.
So whichever autoresponder you wish to have support in VLM I'd be happy if you could send me some HTML code for.
Otherwise I have to regret that I can't implement a specific autoresponder - no code, no implementation

Thanks.
Do you already have one for aweber? or do you need one.
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Do you already have one for aweber? or do you need one.
I could some help with some AWeber parameters (see above) but an AWeber form for testing would be great (I'm not using AWeber).

You can also contact me via email:
info *at* virallistmachine.net
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I would suggest not to go overboard with the features. ... Maybe one feature could be from one account you could control all the offers from different websites (URL)
Hi Stan, thanks for your input.
However I think that feature will not be integrated in this product, maybe in a later version as this would require a different database and system structure.

However, you can install multiple instances using the same database which is not possible with the original GKLM
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This is looking really great. I cannot wait for you to finish this. For that matter I cannot wait to help you spread the word about it.

Franks version was a complete let down. you seem to be focused on a legit piece of software which is nice.

Thanks for thinking of us little guys that are striving to make a living online.
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This is looking really great. I cannot wait for you to finish this. For that matter I cannot wait to help you spread the word about it.

Franks version was a complete let down. you seem to be focused on a legit piece of software which is nice.

Thanks for thinking of us little guys that are striving to make a living online.
Thanks for your encouragement
Spreading the word is great as I currently only have a very small list as I just started in IM not so long ago. Prior to that I've created many successful websites since 1996 but there was no list building involved.

My goal is to provide a much better and more useful version than the original GKLM is. And it'll be available for free (probably only for a limited time though).
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Sorry, folks.
Currently I haven't implemented any autoresponder at all because nobody sent me the HTML code for a form for his favored autoresponder service which redirects to http://www.virallistmachine.net/test.php with the user data posted back to that URL (just like Frank showed how to do with AWeber in the GKLM video).

As I'll be giving away the system for free I'm not going to sign up for any autoresponder service just to add support for it.

Any help is appreciated!
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It should work with more autoresponders than just Aweber. Get Response, Imnica, and others.
I would like that too because I am an aweber fan and I also am a Frank Kern fan
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Sorry, folks.
Currently I haven't implemented any autoresponder at all because nobody sent me the HTML code for a form for his favored autoresponder service which redirects to http://www.virallistmachine.net/test.php with the user data posted back to that URL (just like Frank showed how to do with AWeber in the GKLM video).

As I'll be giving away the system for free I'm not going to sign up for any autoresponder service just to add support for it.

Any help is appreciated!
Richelo Killian offered to help you integrate it with Imnica. You couldn't ask for better help, I think he owns the company or is at least a major player in it.

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Just checked out the dev site - and... WOW! I can't wait to get my hands on it. Great job!

I don't know if you are still taking suggestions - but the ability to use the 'machine' within an existing site would be great. For example, embed within a Wordpress blog. Don't know if that is technically possible, but it would be great if it is!

Thanks,

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I have an aweber account. Please let me know what you need and I will set it up within aweber.
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Status Update:
Help regarding AWeber is no longer required, Robert ("keyz") already created a form just a few minutes ago that I can use. Thank you, Robert!
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This is awesome. Looking forward to testing it out.

I was about to see if you still needed the Aweber code but it looks like someone beat me to it.
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One question I did have I forgot to mention in my last post.

Will you be including the PSD files to allow customization?


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I'd like to see a way to ban emails or domains. ie @test.com or test@test.com
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I'd like the ability to reset everyone's referrals back to 0.

I had the idea of using a site to offer multiple free bribes. So when I add a new bribe, I'd like the ability to just reset everyone's referrals back to 0 (without having them to re-register again) so they need to refer X amount of people again to get it.

This would get people referring again without having to set up a whole new site.
saschakimmel, any feedback on if my suggestion is possible?
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Will you be including the PSD files to allow customization?
I would if I'd use PhotoShop at all.
I've actually created all the graphics with PhotoImpact and I could include those graphics but I think this only makes sense with a PLR version, right?
There are not many graphics at all in the system anyways - just the signup and login boxes and the buttons in the admin panel (well, and the page background of course).

I think adding the source graphics to the personal license download is not something I'm going to do, but I'll maybe do it in a PLR version which I am thinking about releasing later.

Anyways, all of the graphics are theme-specific and contained in the theme directory so changing them is relatively easy.
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saschakimmel, any feedback on if my suggestion is possible?
Talking about setting referrals back to 0:
I think this is a good idead but I'm not going to include it in the first version as I only wanted to create a better GKLM product which some important improvements.

It is however included on the "VLM 2.0" list which I didn't plan to create initially but which I think will be very useful.
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Whoa, that looks like a lot of text.
A simple signup form posting the user info back to the confirmation page is sufficient though. I need an actual live form to implement and test the support for GetResponse.

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I'd like to see a way to ban emails or domains. ie @test.com or test@test.com
Great idea - I've added it to the "future features" list - I need to come to an end (feature freeze) very soon for the first version.

Thanks anyways, highly appreciate your input
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Hey saschakimmel - noticed you reviewed some other suggestions but might have missed mine... Is what I suggest below possible?

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Just checked out the dev site - and... WOW! I can't wait to get my hands on it. Great job!

I don't know if you are still taking suggestions - but the ability to use the 'machine' within an existing site would be great. For example, embed within a Wordpress blog. Don't know if that is technically possible, but it would be great if it is!

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I don't know if you are still taking suggestions - but the ability to use the 'machine' within an existing site would be great. For example, embed within a Wordpress blog. Don't know if that is technically possible, but it would be great if it is!
Oh, sorry, something weird must have happened. I know that I have replied to that but somehow I seem to have forgotten to send the message or something like that.

Well, you can embed the system via an iframe in a WordPress blog. If you modify the templates and CSS you could actually make it appear as if it is a part of your blog.
A full inclusion in a WordPress blog however would only be possible if it would be implemented as a WordPress plugin which it is not.

Maybe I'll support this directly with a later version of the VLM.
Anyways, thank you very much for your ideas and feedback
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...Well, you can embed the system via an iframe in a WordPress blog. If you modify the templates and CSS you could actually make it appear as if it is a part of your blog.
Thanks for the suggestion - sounds good to me!

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A full inclusion in a WordPress blog however would only be possible if it would be implemented as a WordPress plugin which it is not.

Maybe I'll support this directly with a later version of the VLM.
That would be awesome! I look forward to version 1.0 ...and 2.0!!!
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What I didn't like about GCLM was the graphics on the front page. I didn't fit the style of my other websites. I'd like the ability to have just a white background or customizable color.
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What I didn't like about GCLM was the graphics on the front page. I didn't fit the style of my other websites. I'd like the ability to have just a white background or customizable color.
VLM supports themes so you'd just have to do some CSS and HTML magic to get whatever you like
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