insider income system

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I am planning to try the system, it's $497 so I want to hear reviews from fellow warriors who already tried the system if the system really work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Negotiator74
    Watched the video....he does state there is a 30 day money back guarantee so that will keep you safe. I would prefer the money back guarantee as opposed to what others here might think.
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  • Profile picture of the author balara
    I have just purchased the system plus the 2 upsells. As it's late at night here, I haven't commenced Module1. I find that if I get the brain juices flowing so late, I don't sleep at all which doesn't help the day JOB next morning.
    You could Google Jay's name...some interesting posts come up. I'm thinking that the name of some products mentioned could be the same as the income insider system.

    Cheers
    Veronica
    • Profile picture of the author lynneklos
      Well, I stuck through the entire video and I am tempted. I am seriously considering it, so I'd love to hear any comments from Veronica or anyone else that has purchased.
  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Is this the same product as in this thread?

    http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post1929417

    Thanks,

    Pearson
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    I've bought it, but mainly to see how he markets the people.
    I really can't tell you if it's any good because he sends out the modules every week and not at once.
    But as stated above, you have a 30 day money back guarantee.
    So if after 30 days you think it's crap, just ask for a refund.
    Personally, i HATE the way this product try's to upsell... Just when you think you've bought something good, you're going to hear you can "improve" your purchase... that's really NUTS (imho).
    From a marketer stand point, I can totally see the value here

    Conclusion: I suggest to try it out. If it doesn't work request a refund.
    If it works, congratz!

    Dennis
    • Profile picture of the author Graphix Guru
      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      I've bought it, but mainly to see how he markets the people.
      That's a nice position to be in. If I had the dough lying around I might do the same.

      IMHO, he shoots himself in the foot:

      First, because he drones on in the video for too long, making you sit through way too much hype (even though he acknowledges that it's all "hypey"), only to find out that....

      Second, it's a $500 product, which very few starving Internet Marketers can afford!

      And finally, this leads to anger and resentment, because after telling you for 20 minutes how he "feels your pain" and can relate to being a struggling marketer, he hits you (if not kicks you in the you-know-what) with that rather stiff and ugly price tag.

      Personally, I felt a bit soiled and used.

      Whenever I see one of these kind of offers, I get really suspicious. If he really wants to help struggling marketers, he should know that most can't afford $500. The ones who can afford that (as a rule) are the one's who are already making some money, or the handful of those who have room left on their overtaxed credit cards.

      The course may well be great. I hope it is, but he's not making it affordable to those who REALLY need it!


      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      Personally, i HATE the way this product try's to upsell... Just when you think you've bought something good, you're going to hear you can "improve" your purchase... that's really NUTS (imho).
      And THEN he hits you for upsells? Gawd! I mean, I can imagine a scenario where people scrape together the $500 just to get the system... only to be confronted with more?

      Ugh.

      What was the price tag on the upsells, if I may ask?

      Say, I thought all the ethical marketers these days were going away from the blind(side) up-sell model. It's always been a bit dodgy and a tad shady, I think. Many of us are quite sick-and-tired of it, if not fed-up with it entirely.

      Furthermore, by not delivering the content up front, you're FORCED to sit through more video (I hope it doesn't drone on like the intro) for weeks before being able to evaluate whether it's any good or not. In my experience, that's a bad sign.

      It smacks of Mac Michael's Cell Phone Cash (Sell Faux Crap) system, that used a similar model. He took weeks to get to anything with real content (mostly he spoke in broad, sweeping generalizations and ended up repeating himself ad nauseum). At least in this case, you CAN get your money back (in theory). With Cell Faux Crap, the course length went beyond the Clickbank guarantee, as I recall, leaving many burnt and really, really PO'd!

      After having lost ad money (and time) on THAT "sure fire" "can't lose" course, I was only able to get my money back by punching out before the "advanced" materials were provided. Many wished they had done the same! But I digress...

      I hope Insider Income System works for you. I think I speak for many here when I request that you let us know if the "secret" really was worth the hype, and if it you start to make some serious bank. ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    I agree the video is long you need to finish the entire video and at the end you found out that you need to pay $500 for the system that I thought you will get right away after paying it.

    And I am wondering why he didn't even bother to post at least some honest testimonials from his customers.
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Hej Mann,

    Nice post!
    I have no idea how much the upsells are because I was bored of watching even more video's. Pff the first video was indeed WAY to long and he uses very old techniques like "No, you don't even have to pay half, not $1000, no just $497. <--- Where 7 is the magic number that should convert better...
    He's really targetting newbies because intermediate marketers have a shield for this crap selling method.
    But I would love to hear how much this launch bring in, because I'm planning to do my own big launch soon, and if those tactics still convert then...
    But upsells... hmmm, No, not this way...

    Hopefully I can update this thread with positive comments.
    But if the good contents are only being presented after the 30 days of refund period, then I might take the refund. I don't have time to watch a dozen of video's with newbie information and follow his plan to only find out that I lost money.
    Since he's targetting the Clickbank marketplace in the video's I think it will be saturated within a month... Of course you need to think outiside the box and target
    other products to "test" this tactics on, but still...

    Gotta run!

    Dennis
    • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      Hej Mann,
      Hopefully I can update this thread with positive comments.
      But if the good contents are only being presented after the 30 days of refund period, then I might take the refund. I don't have time to watch a dozen of video's with newbie information and follow his plan to only find out that I lost money.
      Since he's targetting the Clickbank marketplace in the video's I think it will be saturated within a month... Of course you need to think outiside the box and target
      other products to "test" this tactics on, but still...

      Gotta run!

      Dennis

      Hope to hear from you soon with your progress I will wait for at least 3-4 weeks to hear your real life experience with the system
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    P.S. - What I would do if I was Jay (the product owner) is hire 10's of virtual assistents to totally milk this technique instead of selling this product. (And maybe he has done this already!)
    If he wanted to help people he wouldn't ask $500, if it was $50 nobody would purchase because it's probably crap, if it was $1000 he would get to many refunds and complaints if the content is presented after the refund period...
    You should always ask your self why someone is selling their hottest technique.
    Already saturated? Not as profitiable as he makes it believe in the video...
    Keep in mind this guy is a marketer...

    For the people that believe in the good side of people... Yes maybe this guy Jay is the exception... who knows
    • Profile picture of the author JustVisiting
      Originally Posted by severt View Post

      You should always ask your self why someone is selling their hottest technique.
      Already saturated?
      IMO 'Already saturated' applies to many,many info products - past,present and future!
  • Profile picture of the author aparadekto
    The problem is we really can't tell whether the product is good or not until there's enough evidence... We need a few long-timers reviewing and posting about it on the boards, if it won't happen then something is going on.
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Today the new video's came in.
    I've watched them, but this is so basic newbie stuff.
    Aweber account setup / how to upload your website etc.
    Hopefully the next video's are giving some useful information and something about that "Google Loophole" thing, because that's why most people signed up...
  • Profile picture of the author monte1
    Shh. I've used Jay's product and if you are just starting out he covers a lot of ground in easy to follow lessons. I upgraded to the gold and got 5 websites. There was a lot of information that other classes I've taken didn't cover. But don't tell any more people - he is my secret weapon
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    • Profile picture of the author bizmarket
      Jay course and teaching is one of the best products that I had purchase! His modules training with the videos is very easy to follow. I just follow his teaching systems and been getting results from his teaching. He also have live webinar training which he will teach you and then you can ask him live questions about anything about the modules training and he will give you advice or more detailed answers about it.
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Well, the new video's are coming next week.
    I'll update this thread as soon as I've watched them.

    Have a good weekend!

    Dennis
    • Profile picture of the author paradiso
      Severt (Dennis), do you know how many modules are in this course? Do you anticipate to have all modules before the refund guarantee run out? Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Today I watched Module 3.
    I'm very... no... VERY disappointed!
    You know what the "google loophole" was?
    That Google likes Wordpress!

    Aaaaah, did I really waste my time so someone could remind me about that???
    So they show you how to install Wordpress, and how to install the 2 famous plugins (all-in-one SEO & that Sitemap plugin) everybody already knows about.

    They talk in the video if it's their idea, that they invent this sh*t.
    Sorry for my words, but I'm a little bit angry here.

    All they do is copy/paste information together in a new product and market it like it's the best and you can't do without.
    So for marketing I give them a 10+ but for the content....

    Don't get me wrong.
    If you're a total newbie then maybe this information might be helpful.
    But until now it's not worth anywhere near the $500 they are asking.

    You're better of buying some WSO's

    Cheers!

    Dennis
    • Profile picture of the author balara
      Hi,
      I posted above that I had purchased the product but at the time had not used it. I bought the main product at US$497...the first upsell at US$997 and the 2nd at USD$197 Total cost US$1691 or AU$1884.75. Much more than I could afford but the "platinum status" it gave me should have had me producing an attractive income within a short time.

      Then came the problem! Files would not open correctly. I contacted support and waited...waited...and waited some more and eventually pm'd Jay through the Warrior Forum. He replied, apologised for the delay and said that their support guy left without notice. He asked me for further info which I supplied within 14 hours (time difference between USA and Aus) and I've had no reply since.

      The product was purchased on 30/3 and it's now 12/4 with not one bit of progress using the system. Today I've pm'd Jay again requesting a full refund.

      I intensely dislike writing a negative post about anyone's product or service, but because of the big dollars involved with this product I felt that for potential buyers, forewarned is forearmed! It is also possible that another person may not experience the problems I have encountered.

      Veronica
  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    Dennis Thanks for the honest review, you save my $500

    cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author severt
    Hi Veronica,

    I requested support also and it took 8 days for them to send me an
    standard and not very useful reply.
    I don't like complaining about a product either.
    But it's their own fault.
    They create a product and all ways to funnel us to the upsells and take as much money as possible. But when you need support...

    Dennis
  • Profile picture of the author paradiso
    Hi Veronica, could you please give me Jay's Warrior User ID? I'd like to contact him directly, not through his support system as I sent him a support ticket 14 days ago and have never heard from him either. I should have waited for comments on his product before jumping in Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author Jay Deiboldt
    Hey guys - someone just told me about this thread and I wanted to pop in and explain what happened RE: our support desk.

    I personally truly do care about my customers and would like to step in to clarify a few things.

    About a week and a half ago - our key support person had an unexpected death in the family, and took off without notice. Upon further investigation, we found out that he was not able to answer all of the support tickets prior to that.

    This is TOTALLY our fault, and we take 110% responsibility of this - no excuses.

    In fact, we just hired a full time person that comes to our offices each and every day that's devoted to providing support - and we personally oversee this person and make sure that support is handled each and everyday.

    Also, to make up for this…we've hooked all our customers up with extra training that Alen Sultanic (my biz partner) taught in a private invite only $5,000 coaching mastermind session.

    This additional training is no longer for sale at any cost, yet we hooked up all of our customers with it at no charge.

    Plus we're extending ourselves in providing extra training in terms of outsourcing and employee management for totally outsourcing everything.

    RE: the content - Dennis - with being through only module 3, I think it's a little early to be making generalizations like "You're better of buying some WSO's", but that's just my opinion.

    The system as a whole is what creates the loophole. *It's FAR more in depth than "Google loves Wordpress" - in fact, it's not even Wordpress that's key here, it's how the system comes together to create the engine that drives everything.

    Also i'd hope you would respect peoples' courses enough not to reveal the exact contents of what is inside to those who haven't tried them out yet.

    I have no problem with reviews (and absolutely encourage them) but there's a difference between reviewing a product and revealing the contents of what's inside.

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