thesuccesscoach

i gave up on cbpredator
after spending time with it, it's just not all it's cracked up to be
support is very poor
the word press dbs are all stored on their servers, thus if you cancel the blogs get zapped
in general it's just not worth it for the money.
sorry to say it but that's my honest opinion

bfas

It really strikes me that time after time, with the same red flags - half-baked product, overpromising sales letter, terrible support, developer excuses, 80% complaints & dissatisfaction posts - that people still go for this garbage.

No doubt next week some new massively-JV'd launch, promoted & "reviewed" by people who don't know a thing about the product, will hit the shelves, and in spite of seeing the same pattern, over & over & over, a lot of people will get suckered into spending hard-earned time and money.

The people producing these 'products' will keep doing it as long as people put up with it.

bfas

Keithyt

Apologies for my first post back on the scene being rather negative, but in answer to Gale's question. It's a no. My experience has been similar to doctorhands, the successcoach and mike gregory.

Having "retired" from internet marketing in 2005 after three years of batting with the wrong gurus, I was hoping that things might have changed and that my previous experience was all just a horrible dream.

No complaints about the founder. Really pleasant sounding guy who is clearly sincere about helping us all. I am sure things will settle down and a proper system established soon. But as a public relations man (the day job), I have a real problem with the insistence via the daily emails which emphasise positive positive positive when it is clearly obvious that the customer experience has been less than cheerful. This is not good for reputation.

I waited ten days for my first support ticket to be answered, only to be told that it was hostgator's fault who, after two hours on online chat, eventually had to go in on my CBP user name and password to link the interface with theirs. Yes I accept that demand might have been higher than expected but forward planning? Nuff said.

Anyway, to me the ethos is sound enough and there is meat out there to be grabbed as we all know, but I feel as though I am at the wrong end of the food chain here and certainly not a predator. Why? Because if you do a search of the available product names, all the affiliates are competing for the domain names which sound closest to the original product name. I am not going to mention mine for fear of being seen as offering cheap advertising, but suffice to say it competed favourably with the the 200 or so other variations all aspiring to a top ten SE birth. I know it's not all about your domain name but you get my drift.

My feeling is that things can only get better. Again I come at it as a PR pro. I think CBP should admit on forums like this that there have been obvious problems but that these wil be fixed (just like bugs are in the best software) and that training will continue unabated, which to be fair, it does via webinars. But with this backdrop of uncertainty, it's very difficult to concentrate on money making when your confidence remains low e.g. would I attempt another 10 days and then three solid hours trying to launch a second site? Not as things stand no.

The affiliate products offered do however seem well received on the whole elsewhere. I have a bit of an issue reviewing products that I haven't used though and, as constructive feedback, wonder if a 30 day affilate trial demo might be offered so that reasoned and objective reviews can be drafted. I guess that could be open to abuse but it's just a thought. So let's hope that the product portfolio can be translated into money soon!

thesuccesscoach

very nice post

i gave up on it, as re the support if there is a huge demand you can afford to put on trained support staff, it's not going to cost that much and will certainly help to keep a positive image about the product/marketer.

I don't know but it seems these products are brought out in a rush, it is a great idea but initial impressions count and my impression of this was just it did not work as well as it could

I'm not going to hold for promises of what will come in the next few months, as i wanted the product that i had paid for, yes i know it's all about the continuity but at launch the product did not work as well as it could

re reviewing something you have not bought i agree entirely

stevecl

Seriously what did you expect? You really thought that at a couple of clicks of a mouse you would have a fully functional unique wordpress blog that would start earning you money in a very short space of time?

Jeez, there is one born every minute...

Keithyt

Steve I tried to be balanced here and not sure that your dismissive comment is fair. As I said in the post, I was "born" back in 2002 when I first started marketing on the internet. This followed my original birth into PR in 1989.

I joined because of the reasonable affiliate products that seemed to be offered here. Rapid Rewriter for example has been mentioned many times by other warriors as on par with TBS etc. The other big selling feature that Chris and Jerome are offering which seemed attractive were the wordpress squeeze pages. I bow to greater knowledge if this is available elsewhere but rightly or wrongly it seemed a selling feature.

Thanks thesuccesscoach for your feedback and sorry you had a similar experience.

Stratplayer1

Take It For What It Is....

Sounds just like every other "automated product" I have tried; the concept is awesome , the marketing works like "gangbusters" and you are all guinea pigs working the system out for them as you go along...

What you need to remember is- that the guy who has been doing this manually and very successfully, for a long time and- a few million dollars- had an amazing thought one day.

What if... I sold this with the whole process "automated" Yes! I could make a squillion dollars.
So he went to see a "programmer" and told him his great idea... The programmer, not being slow himself said - "awesome idea" you will make a squillion dollars... I can build that for you for a mere fraction of a Squillion dollars just a mere $100,000- a "one off" cost.


The millionaire thought yep Done! I got cars that cost 5 times that price and they don't make me any money- they get me laid heaps though... He says- "Go ahead and start on the project".

The only thing is the millionaire knows nothing about how to build WordPress sites? and even less about Plugins and how to "activate them" and truth be known; he has never installed any advanced software and has problems contemplating how to download a simple app to his computer?

Owns the most expensive Ipad Computer "expert"... can check an email and reads his Favorite hardcover books on Kindle?

Fortunately he can always pay someone from a third world country pennies to write his articles, get his back-links, post to forums and sign up and social book mark... set his websites, salescopy and everything else up- so hes cool with all that...

The millionaire gets a phone call, What the f... I have already paid that geek! and Super launched the product on time and- the "Programmer" has got a bug in the software... no product links are showing... crap; no plugins showing...

Its ok I'll tell them its part of the plan- we decided instead to provide a much better product, superior plugins, one that puts autocontent on the site for them... original content... yes that'll work... no else has used that one... none of this has been done before.... they'll buy it.....

I will tell them I genuinely did not like the first software and plugins and decided to give them something very unique... special that they will not get anywhere else.....

Fast forward 58 days.. things are way better than the way they were at the start and- a couple of newbies are ecstatic- they are buzzing and revving up the forum about their huge "breakthrough".

They have finally made their first dollar online, two awesome sales actually and made $52.00. Not-a-Million dollars but they are so impressed- finally they are well on their way to making a fortune...

Oh its gotta be true....

Based on the euphoria, Everyone else who have not quite made money yet? decide to immerse themselves into doing everything they have been told that works and... they decide they will profit just beyond the 60 day limit so its ok?
Too late to get a refund- they get stuck with having to try make it work like the hype said it should....


HELLO... there is more than a grain of truth in all this. Worse still-TRUE STORY FOLKS! been there, done that and got four 'T' Shirts... it is still the newest and brightest bauble.... brightest thing... Newest advent "Automated" dreams of fast wealth that are "push button" Plug n' Play, no work, make millions... live the dream...

The gurus all think the same way- ie from what I have seen (in my bank account) that is what they are online looking for... what sort of a marketer would I be if I did not give them exactly what they wanted? Heck- everyone knows that you can click on software and it does everything for you.... right? right!

Someone please tell me that this new automated click-the-software Forex, automated 18 clicks to make-money-fast type thing is the real deal? and not the same old nightmare please.... Because until they do I AIN'T BUYING ANY OF IT!

That's my whole take on it- take it for what it is
Philip Randall

PS
Wait till these people try and get out of the ongoing monthly membership site for whatever reason. (fees)

When the questions? they could not foresee suddenly arise?

"how am I going to get my websites and products out of this membership program?"
"How am I going to automate my processes as fast as this? outside of this membership site?"
"does all the resources and software stay in there when I leave?"
"who owns the Licenses?"
"Can I sell the websites with their software and plugins in it?"
"will I lose all of my hard work if I leave"
"How do I access and login to my websites? I will be on the outside of the membership site? I won't have their login page?
"how much of what I paid for will I actually get to take away with me"

I will give you a hint: you went in with nothing... you do not own anything in the membership site and once you cancel your membership, you are on your own and locked out for keeps.

I hope you can see that I am giving you valuable advice. These questions have got to be answered before the 60 days and Guarantee is up, or you may not like the answers and have to live with more costly disappointment.

Take care Phil

Nice Guy

I bought it and the basic idear is really good. Now I even can't log into my sites anymore.I set up 2 tickets but nothing happened for 3 or 4 days. Now they are suddenly closed, but withouth solving the problem. I do not know what's going on there,but I know that they are not interested in client service. It looks to me as scam just now, because they do not deliver any support. The only messages I get from them are new affiliate offers - very strange.

nice guy

dtmission

The product looks good and I have decided to invest in it.

I decided to use a main domain with subdomains for each of the cbpredators sites.

I can create the site without problems, but, when I finally publish it to one of my subdomains nothing is copied in the subdomain directory, even if the software confirms that the site has been published correctly.

I requested help from support, but I receive only vague answers and promises that they are going to produce more training videos.

The result is that I have not yet been able to publish my first site.

The main problem seems to be the lack of support and they take a very long time to give any answer.

DSG

I bought this product with both up sells, made a site that didn't upload, decided to wait things out and see what developed. 3 1/2 weeks later there is still nothing in the platinum members area, the basic members area has come to a standstill and the up sell CB Gamechanger that is supposed to integrate with CBPredator does me no good if the main program dosnt work as it should. But still, I would've be willing to wait that out another 30 days except for two things.

1. I learned from my real estate days that he that controls the deed, makes the rules, not he that owns the property. The fact that CB Predator hosts the database means they control your website and you are subservient to them.
2. In 3 1/2 weeks the recurring theme is we're going to do this, that is coming, we're waiting till everyone catches up. I've been down this path before, and I feel like an ass being led by a carrot down the path to the awaiting CB Predator, waiting to be eaten.

I asked for a refund on Friday.

@Stratplayer1. I appreciate your story.

Mindpunisher

I wasted a month on their google cash sniper programme. The mantra on that programme was you have to work hard to make money and those that say otherwise are selling you a pipe dream. Then in CB predators they claim the opposite. I worked really hard for four weeks and got zero traffic. I signed up for CB predators then jumped out after a week. I am surprised that anyone hang in there longer. I wouldn't touch these guys with a barge pole now..

Being new to online marketing and reading this forum I am begining to wonder if anyone makes any real money. There seems to be so many dissapointed marketers. I don't think Ive seen a really positive review yet?

Brian

Nice Guy

Hi George, good statement. I bought the product on the launch day. I worked through and the first time I was angry, that there is not a real tutorial about the basics and specially about the plug ins and how they work and what I had to do to reach the results.

A bit later I visited the websites of the plugin creator and I found good tutorials over there. A next thing was, that how to set up host stuff was not really explained and special for not techie guy like me the most worse experience in the beginning. A friend of mine helped me with that.

All of this not what one is expecting after buying a product that promotes auto sale.

So far there are massive resources for empathy and didactic.

Over all I found , exactly what you sag George, that I could set up very quick and with no hassle new wp-sites in lets realistic say 30 - 40 minutes with all the plugins and writing the review. So far I was able to create 3 or 4 a day.

The real problem came out a week ago: I could not log into my created sides anymore. After doing the basic work within cbp template and fill out the given fields (?), you get to the point where you have to press the button: "publish now"
Then you will be redirect to a site where you get the link to the wp-site, a user name and system password. And from a certain day they didn't work anymore. Means I couldn't get to my wp-admin pages anymore. No chance. Not with repeating, not with " lost password" which will be reset from the system, but this also still does not work.

What if it will not work and the service break down after you published 50 or 100 sites, which is very realistic.

This is my main problem!!! I wrote them 3 or 4 tickets, wrote to the support mail address, which has been answered first time personal from Jerome, second time the mail was automated to create a new ticket.

Then the hour came where I really had to think that this is scam or fraud, because the tickets where suddenly closed with no comment and no solution. I wonder if there are really two guys who launched this product or if this is all a story tale, hmmm.

I also wrote the very successful and well known internetmarketer who recommend the product 2 tickets in the hope that he will contact the guys. No answer. Very poor.

I then wrote to the plugin people, who should stay in contact to cbp-owners. No answers.

So, this are my personal experience with cbp.

I wonder also after all of this, why there is not more ethic in the web business.

If this guys have a technical or finance problem, ok this can happen all the time, special in this times. But just to step back and hide without telling the clients about the real issue of the situation is very poor, very poor. Another question is, why honorable internet marketer do support this kind of behaviour in also not answering questions concerning to this item. Worse signs for this market.

May be a institution like warriors forum or clickbank should install a re check for new systems and check if the basics and the technique that is promoted is working. May be a glim for a new idea.

So what to do with this guys? The basic idea is good. It is a time saver. The problem:
This guys seams not be professional enough to run such a Bushness = very poor. Than they need help from a real internetmarketer.

In conclusion: Don't buy until there is a real statement coming up from them.

The only good thing. I bought through clickbank, which secures my money.
Another thing:After one month I have to pay the next fee, but it didn't work for over two weeks or more. What do you think? Do they suggest to get the second month for free, or even the hird also because of all this problems? If they are clear minded, they would do?

Hope this helped a bit, even my English is not Harvard like, haha.

All the best

Mike

OnlineMktgByron

My experience is very much like yours. I put in a ticket waited over a week for a response that never came. Saw them say that they were going to close any ticket related to "training" so they could answer the others. Still no Response.

Finally went back into support after 10 days and found the ticket closed. No answer to my question which involved the error message :"Error establishing a database connection."

Since the database is on their server and the system said my site was published, I thought they should offer me help with this. I can see the files in the folder online where they are supposed to be, but no way to see the site or enter the back-end. Now What?

When I saw the ticket was closed I noticed it said that it would reopen if I replied...so I did...last week.

Still no response so I open a new ticket, still no response. Then when I try to check on my tickets today..and they don't exist anymore.

I guess that's one way to reduce your tech support issues.

I will be asking for a refund before my 60 days are up if they don't fix the issues and answer everyone's questions satisfactorily by then...which seems unlikely at this point.

Byron

thesuccesscoach

well i cancelled and asked them to tell me how to get my db for the wordpress site, no answer

very bad show i gotta say

ChrisCommunicator

Hi there dtmission,

Lots of people have been having this problem (including me). I finally sorted it out the other day and in the spirit of openness I have created a tutorial on the subject.

This is available as a PDF directly from my blog. As I'm a reasonably new member here, I can't post you a direct link - however, if you follow the URL in my signature to "Successful Speaking Secrets" and then click on the page tab "CB Predators Tutorial" you'll be right on it.

Read, download, have fun - tell you friends.

Hope it works for you.

BTW: I'd welcome hearing how other users of CB Predators are doing - in terms of actually generating revenue. (I know some people have requested a refund and I respect their decision to do so, but I'd welcome hearing some detailed success stories too. Thanks).

Hteam

Hi isn't CB Predator the same as CB Pirate? All these automated sites which don't actually give the purchaser a 'real' business because if you quit their membership you lose all your hard work - are they really going to last?
I want to create a long term business, where the work I do today will pay off over time. Will these CB Pirate, CB Predator, Speedlings and so many more "x" clicks and you have a money making site really last. They are all clones? Isn't Google going to 'slap' them?
I'm a newbie and I don't undersand things very well but if I do all the work but I don't get the list isn't it a real waste of my time.
These promotors seem to keep starting up another promotion, what happens to the old ones which they control?
I have nothing to contribute but just wonder about the long term .......

jonclaude

I bought CB Predator 2 weeks ago!

This software is amazing. You upload your file direct to your hosting account without deal Filezilla headached.

From one hosting you can make many sites you want by the add doming system ( by the way they didn't make a video about add doming yet!). What you need is buy your domain name every time.

But you don't have to promote clickbank products with cb predators you used cj too and much more...

Good luck.

thesuccesscoach

well my final experience of cbpredator?

awful!

i sent a support ticket to ask how can i get my db file if i wanted to cancel, on the site or here they said they would give you full details

i cancelled and not a word from them!

another product which i was disappointed with, thank God for clickbank!

Buzzin

Mostly bad reviews on here.

It's a recurring billing isn't it?

There's no way I'd sign up to any recurring product.

Once you see what they've got, it's not like you need to stay on every month, is it?

ChrisCommunicator

I'm sure some others would agree, i.e. it's quite "neat" in terms of what it does. It has been let down by poor documentation and inadequate support. All of this though is rather "by-the-by", the issue surely is:

"Has anybody made a profit using this software?"

If so, how much? (You need > 37USD p.m. + overheads (like domains) to make a profit). If anybody out there is actually managing this, then their story would be a big boost to fellow users and to the CBP team, (who must be feeling a bit sore by now, bearing in mind all the negative comments).

If it is possible to "balance-out" this thread with *factual* evidence of success, I feel it would be good for all concerned...

Nice Guy

Hi there, I bought it on the launch day April 20th and nothing changed until today. No, definitiv no support at all, no tutorials that are really helpful and descripe any details and how to use the plugins. No answers. Complaints posted in the members area do never appear after sending. Very, very poor. And most worse, no excuse, nothing. With all this behaviour there is only one conclusion - Don't buy this product!

Mark Johnson

Hey George and Nick,

Great argument, most enjoyable!
May I stick my nose in?

I bought CB Predator and have been using it since launch day.........

Still wondering how this system is going to deliver 5 figure pay days in just 18 clicks when after nearly a month my CB predator sites have not even been indexed by Google and Chris & Jerome ignore my support tickets.

I already knew how to build wordpress websites. Yes this system makes it quicker and easier (18 clicks and 400 keystrokes to re-write the content) but the part of the sales page that really sold it to me was.........

” Get unlimited numbers of the most effective, targeted traffic you can imagine… for free – imagine the power of getting zero cost visitors that are already looking to buy whatever is on your site ”

I would be interested to know if anyone else has managed to get unlimited numbers of targeted traffic to their CB predator sites yet?? I don’t see how this system will deliver this promise in any other way than good old SEO and link building which you need to do with or without CB Predator membership and takes much more hard work and endeavour than 18 clicks.

I honestly would rather use fantastico WP installer a free theme and set up my wordpress site in 118 clicks rather than pay $37 per month to save 100 clicks of my mouse.

GEORGE .. the sales page IS VERY MISLEADING......I can't believe you truly think CB Predator delivers totally on its sales page promises.

I feel sorry for all those newbies who bought it who are still waiting for the money to start flooding in.....they will be waiting a long time!

Epicurus

Hey people

I've been following this thread for a while and just had to add my own opinion.

I'm coming from the perspective of customer support....this is what I do for a living and I take pride in the fact that I'm good at what I do.

The way I work is that whatever product I'm supporting, I ask the vendor to provide me with access to it well before launch so that I can proof read and beta test it to iron out any potential problems and build up a database of FAQ's - anything else I can't answer I just ask the product creators to provide clarification on.

Handling several support desks as I do at the moment, I'm acutley aware that a large amount of 'newbies' are signing up for IM products on a weekly basis.

Now, if the product is good in the first place with plenty of training materials etc then in my experience I find that the level of support needed is minimal.

The main reason I'm posting this is because I'm a little tired of hearing people say how bad the support is, I have been following this thread from the beginning and from what I can gather is that on day one of the launch there were technical problems with the product.

Worse still, I am informed that after purchase many people found that there was little or no training materials or instructions on how to use the product.

Also, the fact that the product is software which (if it worked properly) would allow its users to create and upload wordpress blogs has a great baring on how user friendly it is...especially with newbies who have never even heard of FTP, Plugins etc! etc!

Now I have supported products in the past which show people how to create and upload a blog and I can tell you from experience that even if you have the most detailed of instructions the newbies that have bought it will really struggle to implement the information.

I've supported really good products in the past with step-by-step detailed instructions and I can assure you - the newbies will STILL struggle with it.

As for CB Predators, I gather that from day one the support desk has been swamped with requests for further instructions etc and because many people have not had their questions answered there is now this perception that the customer support is very poor.

Well there is a saying that I use quite often which applies to my particular area of expertise which goes like this "Even Support Needs Support"

If there was nothing supplied in the training area then no wonder the support desk was swamped with queries and I feel for the poor buggars that had to handle that support desk.

Look, bottom line is this, I know it's frustrating when you've bought something and you need further information on it but if the vendor is outsourcing the support and not answering questions themselves it could be that they are not providing their support team with answers either.

I know it's easy to just think that you're being ignored but there could be another reason behind it and from my perspective and experience it's really frustrating and annoying to read people bashing the support.

jdjenkins

Just wanted to say that I've given it a try, but after uploading my first site I had an error message when trying to view it. I did do the "folder check" before uploading, and looked at the files via my ftp software, and all seemed fine, but the site will not display.
Sent a message to support, but after reading this forum and getting no reply to my support ticket (after over a week), I have decided to get a refund.
I think the system has potential, and is obviously attractive for beginner marketers, but there are plenty of similar products out there if you want to use something like CBP,

best wishes,

Jon.

Steve Gilbert

Let's just say that I was VERY happy to get my money back after suffering through all of the same problems mentioned here previously.

I must say that this experience has certainly made me want to be considerably more cautious in accepting similar "beta" offers in the future.

After all, how likely is it that 2 clicks, or 18, or however many "easy" steps will produce success? The WF is full of statements like "I've spent $1000's on stuff that didn't work"; come on now, this stuff doesn't change the rules: find a need, fill that need, make some money.

richieu

@Epicurus

Sorry, but if you offer support and that support is lacking at least from the perspective of those who are stuck and cannot progress with their purchase, then you are failing your customers and should expect flak.

It doesn't matter what the circumstances are.

We shouldn't be seeing products launched with 'coming soon' on pages that are expected to be there from the word go.

If you use statements in copy such as ".... in 18 clicks" and then expect your customers to manually spin a review, then you are setting up expectations that are not being met and will get criticized fairly quickly when you can't meet those promises.

From my perspective they are running out of goodwill fast and have to 'pull their finger out'. I'm not paying this price for what is essentially a blog installer with a flex-squeeze theme.

I suspect my patience is a little better than most too...

ATB
Rich

TraderG

I purchased this on launch day. Tried to put up a site on Bluehost multiple times, but it failed. It seems to work on Hostgator ok though. I have put in multiple tickets to support on all kinds of issues. Never have received an answer on any of them. Then to see that I don't own the database; I've had enough. I have requested a refund. Will be the last time I trust any of these guys.

Thanks folks for all of the heads up!

Epicurus

Yes I am in total agreement with you there.

What I'm saying is that throughout this thread the support team for CB Predators has received flak and the criticism is being levelled at the support when sometimes it clearly is not the fault of the support team.

I have worked in support for several years and have had to try and support products which were incomplete on release and it can be very frustrating.

If the product creators have hired a freelance support team then there are certain things that the product creators need to provide the support team with in order to enable them to do their job properly and from what I can gather it looks like CB Predators was incomplete on release and lacking in training materials.

To say it doesn't matter what the circumstances are is to not see the whole picture.

Although I do sympathise with anyone who has ever bought a product and the support has been lacking.

All I'm saying is that from the customers perspective it may look like they're being ignored but behind the scenes there could be other extenuating circumstances and it's wrong to automatically assume that the support is to blame.

TraderG

I don't blame support. I blame product owners who supposedly have been doing this stuff for awhile, but somehow can't get it together and then don't support their support team.

I run a brick and mortar business. You don't treat your customers this way or your team if you want to stay in business. If there are technical problems, you let people know so that they can decide to stay or go. Most will stay around if you are honest in all that you have said and done and a fix is on the way. The owners haven't done that for this product. It's too bad. If they actually had truth in advertising, this could have been a killer product and service.

Keithyt

I agree with Trader and Epicurus and others. Some very valid points here made about technical support. I was the first tech support man in the UK to get a live call about Microsoft adCenter and I can tell you that it is one of THE most distressing things when you want to help someone and the product isn't ready to launch. So my heart goes out to the tech support personnel. It really does.

But while the techies shouldn't have to take all the flak, somebody should. I am still getting auto emails from CB Predators and the last one apologising for yet another webinar that is going to happen but didn't.

I wouldn't care if I was flying round in umpteen Testa Rossas, Jags, Mustangs and fat wheeled trucks with 37 properties to my name, I would not sleep nights if I had disgruntled customers like Trader G and myself lodging complaints about my company. 18 clicks to success? 148 clicks to insanity more like.

ChrisCommunicator

Well, I think I've given them long enough to sort it out and they haven't. I've just filed for divorce, (I mean refund, sorry) via ClickBank.

Enough is enough (and the cock-up that was the most recent webinar was 'enough' for me).

Anthony La Tour

All I can say is thank you. I was going to promote this to my subscriber... I'm not now thanks to you. Thank you for saving me the hassle Aaron.

infinite

My pleasure Anthony... I'd like to have been singing its praises (had it been all that it was cracked up to be) but in all honesty I would have done my subscribers a real disservice in promoting that one and gave it a wide berth.

Aaron

dtmission

I have been very disapponted with this product. It looked very promising but the sales copy omitted some important point such as the database installed on their site.

Moreover I have had technical problem with the installation of the site on a subdomain and no support to solve the problem.

Finally I made a few searches on Google to find some of these sites and I have not been able to find any if the first few pages. If you have an example please give me the URL.

I am very disappointed because I still believe that Chris Fox is a serious person and I learned quite a few things from him in a previous course.

Anyway I finally decided to cancel my membership and ask a refund.

Mario

D-Roze

I've made a few sales already but like most, I am highly disappointed in the service and the unfulfilled promises. It is an amazing platform to me with tremendous potential. I think personally that the guys who created it simply got in over their heads. Surely by now they realize they will have a mass exodus if they don't get it going right... and quickly. As for traffic, I can use Twitter almost at will to generate the beginnings of traffic and then start building backlinks after that. No big deal. My concern is with the custom sites not getting indexed and that is where my TweetAttacks review is.

Not giving up on them yet, but the 60 day target date is coming up soon. As has been mentioned above, setting up your own site, even if you use a subdomain as I do, isn't that much more difficult than what they do for you. The biggest advantage for a non-techie like me is that the FTP part of it is automated.

But, then again, maybe I am just too naive...

hsoftware

Tomorrow, June 21st, is the first day of Summer 2010, and it will mark two months since this product was launched. During the very first member webinar there was a statement that there would be approximately 30 new prelaunch templates uploaded during the night and that they would be ready the following morning. Well, lets just say that after two months the same 12 templates are still there. Then there was a post that some new templates were to be uploaded on June 1st, well that never materialized, then again on June 8th, and that didn't happen.

As for the Platinum membership upsell, two months later there is still no content there. Still says "coming soon" Then there is The bootcamp, well, lets just say it was a series of tiny videos that could not be expanded to fullscreen to see what they were doing. The second boot camp never happened at all. Comments on the blog are disabled so there is virtually no communication with other CBPredator members. The comments that I posted are still in "awaiting moderation" mode, some for as long as a month!

I tried to give them the benifit of the doubt but after nearly two months of under delivery I think it is time to throw in the towel. The only conclusion I can come to is that this product was not ready for prime time when it was launched.

Ben

richieu

Yes I gave them the benefit of the doubt for two months, but sadly they've failed to deliver on many fronts. I have canceled my membership - another lesson learned!

ATB
Rich

infinite

I hope you guys requested a refund? We need to take a stand against this type of shoddy service / poorly supported products and as much as it PAINS ME to request a refund, if a product doesn't stack up to its claims these days, I'm all for asking for one. (I got my CB predators membership refunded several weeks ago as I saw the product was flawed from the outset).

To be perfectly honest, I'm sick and tired of products like this giving the whole IM industry a bad name. There are FAR TOO MANY products being released these days that are either a) not ready to be released to the public or b) no matter how much work goes into them are still going to be a shoddy product!

We all need to make a stand on this type of thing.

Aaron

infinite

Just a quick tip on this one...

If you've got a hosting account that supports Fantastico (most good ones do) then there is really little need to use FTP at all. Wordpress can be totally installed virtually at the touch of a button (and I'm not exaggerating there like many of the sales pages do...lol)... realistically - enter a couple of details like where you want it installed etc, click a couple of buttons and presto - Wordpress is installed! :-)

Aaron

hsoftware

Yea, I did, I requested my refund right after I posted my previous reply in this thread and I did it on the 59th day of the 60 day refund period. I really hate doing that too, any refund actually, but I felt I had no other choice.

annaa

Hi everyone, I bought this product just after it came out. I didn't want to spend too much money, so I purchased the cheapest version. There was not much information about how to use it, so soon I encountered some technical problems. Unfortunately support was nonexistent. I never received any replies. I spent some additional money already because I purchased a specific domain name for this, but was not successful in publishing any site. Eventually I asked for my money back which I got from Clickbank. It was a waste of time and money and now I concentrate on my own sites.

successfulgeek

I have tried to work with Chris and Jerome submitting a support ticket here and there and even offering to do the training videos in exchange for lifetime membership or at least something. There has been no response so I requested a refund.

I really wanted this to work but it doesn't. I had a VA working quite a few hours setting up multiple sites for me but I didn't know what the next thing to have them work on and no new products ever came into the mix at all.

So I got my last two months refunded and unfortunately without Chris and Jerome approving it I am out my platinum upsell of $97 as well which was never delivered.

I don't expect to get the initial money back because I consider it a learning experience. The product was an amazing idea that due to mismanagement burnt a lot of people.

DSG

I was wondering how many of you that received refunds still have access to the site. I got a refund a couple months ago and still have access there. I go in every couple weeks to see if anything has changed. Seems to be abandoned. One of my quirky thoughts on this, is it seems like an elaborate way to build a list. How many of you are still on their email list? I haven't unsubscribed and regularly receive emails from cb-predators, chris x, chris and jerome and affiliate x hawking everyone else's new products.

Your thoughts?

wimbledonwoman

I bought it - and the only things that were coherent were the upsells - lots of them. I could not open the first PDF (it was "damaged and not repairable") and the videos wouldn't buffer properly. I was pretty wary of hosting my sites on his server anyway, but after the initial non-start, I gave up and asked for a refund.

wimbledonwoman

That's all I have got - BS upsells from other sites. It doesn't take a genius to do what he's telling you to do - if you can build a WP site add content (I don't like PLR anyway which is part of his "instant" stuff) and drive your own traffic - where's the secret? I must have been nuts to order it anyway.

magentawave

Does anyone know if CB Predators is the same thing as Commission Predators?

Thanks
Steve