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Old 04-11-2010, 05:39 AM   #1
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I made several sites promoting this, and i have to say the more i write about it, the more interesting it becomes to me myself.

The prospect making complete (wordpress) review sites with only a few clicks is, to say it mildly, VERY interesting.

One of the few marketing products which i will be getting myself.

Waiting for tomorrow (pre-launch) and really eager to give this an extensive test - beyond what's already known about it. I am especially interested how they handle the content spinning/filtering.

They say that multiple people can make a review site (clickbank etc.) about the same product(s) but no one will have duplicate content.

Exciting piece of software, IMO.

Anyone had a chance to beta test this, has it already and can report?

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first i have heard of it, just done a quick search and there seems to be 1001 review sites already for a product thats not even out yet. this Internet stuff sure works ahead of itself at times that is for sure.

These people doing these review sites must be like seagulls at chips all chirping and squealing away for a share in the feeding frenzy to follow as the spare chips are thrown.

I did read up in nano seconds so is it hosted on the main site per say ? time will tell i suppose.

edit: I dare it will also be one one of thise packet mix n bake jobbies as well. and after cooking all you need do is add traffic.

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I have one question: Once you have created a website with CB Predators, it is uploaded to YOUR hosting account.

But.. does this mean that every site created would have to have a seperate domain and hosting?

This might sound like a stupid question but it's not been made very clear on the sales page

Here's a quote from the sales page:

"If you worked on this system just 2 hours a day for the next month, you could get something like 240 of these sites set up."

So if I created 240 sites, would I need to be 240 domains for each site?

If this is the case then shouldn't this be made clear before people are asked to invest in the monthly program knowing that there is additional expense?

Why aren't you driving Rapid Mass Traffic to your website?
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In the demo I saw of the system it looks like you can install the site into a directory on a domain i.e. you can have multiple sites on the same domain e.g.
productreviews.com/commission_blueprint_2 using the example that they showed
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I understand it as you simply enter your FTP/host information and it uploads to your site/domain. Its basically like a wordpress installer, but it installs complete review sites.

I am also pretty sure if it works like that you can ALSO use subdomains, so you can use ONE hosting and make sites with one hosting account, but on multiple sub domains.


And jenny,

you can get $2/months hosting with unlimited subdomains..so each subdomain would NOT cost anything. But if you really want 240 different domains, well then you have to buy them, simple as that. You cant blame this on CBPredators?

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The CB Predators was live today, and i just received an email from Chris Fox that they just sold 208 of CB predators from his internal launch.

any warrior who manage to buy it, any honest review will be great.

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looks very tempting...Paul ponna offers $10 discount to his list with some great bonuses...ok...may be another few comments here, then to decide..

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Yep, I bought it and the couple of upsells. Looks a lot to go through and promises much. I'll report back in a few days when I've had a chance to go through it all.

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What is the url to Paul Ponna's newsletter please?

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i dont get it. You go to cb predators site, and all i see is a opt in page?
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NOT LIVE YET...3PM EST!! (in 1 hr 40 mins )

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They just sent out their own list with the link not working <---

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Okay, there's something about this that doesn't quite add up for me. He keeps talking all through the sales page about how these sites only take 15 minutes to build, and then it's hands off. He mentions how many of these you can build in a day. Then down at the bottom where he mentions what you get, he says:

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Target any keywords you want, any products you want, and the Predator software will spit out a read-to-go site in just a couple of minutes. All you need to do is add content.
That's where the glitch is. If you have to add content to these sites, then it will definitely take you a LOT more than 15 minutes to put them up. You won't be able to put up dozens of those a week as he says. Below that paragraph, he mentions that you do get 3 unique blogs a month. But that's just 3 sites, not dozens or hundreds.

So it seems that this really is just quick site-building software. The content situation is always the problem with building a lot of sites quickly. You either have to write like crazy, or you have to do a LOT of outsourcing. There are a lot of different site-building software solutions you could buy that put up a site quickly. But it is always the content creation that is going to eat up the real time.
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Nope, the key is you dont have to create content, as i understand you get this content delivered from them - you might be able to choose what you want and tweak here and there. Otherwise it would simply be a wordpress installer which it is not. Correct me if i am wrong.

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From watching one of the vids (when you leave the sales page and sign up for the free plugin) it's seems that you do need to add your own content.




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Georg, according to the sales page, they only deliver 3 blogs a month on upcoming launches. That wouldn't be enough content for you to use for all those hundreds of sites you can supposedly build a month.

There's nothing wrong with an easy site builder. But I think they should be a little clearer about what else you're going to have to do to make those sites work for you. Content is basically the biggest thing. It's not hard to put up a WP blog on your own in 15 minutes with Fantastico. If it takes another 45 minutes to get plugins installed and configured, that's not a big deal to me since by far the most time-consuming thing (or the most expensive) is the content creation.
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George, it's correct that you get the content for your site. The review text for the product is broken down into a few small text parts that you can either spin or rewrite yourself before uploading the page. So you can make the content of the site unique.
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THIS PRODUCT IS TOTALY ****!!!!!DONT BUY!!!

-You can only choose a few products(5)to promote,so 100's(or more)of the same new wp blogs every month's go online....
-No training material
-It's a "ok i bought it and now what"product targeted for newbies that get lost easily and probably bought the useless upsells that are WAYYY to expensive also!
-the site that i created didn't even work!
-You can not edit(or remove your site)in your site creation menu one's your site is build.
-The only video is not indebd so you dont know what everything is for and what to fill in and why it's importend etc..
-you have to rewrite/spin the content yourself!!WTF
-asked for a refund
-this product is totaly overhyped!!
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I noted in the disclaimer at the bottom of their sales page the dreaded word "ADWORDS".
Is that what all this is about, or is it even part of the 'system'?
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George, it's correct that you get the content for your site. The review text for the product is broken down into a few small text parts that you can either spin or rewrite yourself before uploading the page. So you can make the content of the site unique.
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According to their salespage:

"Target any keywords you want, any products you want, and the Predator software will spit out a read-to-go site in just a couple of minutes. All you need to do is add content.

(and keep reading to see how I'll help you out there too)"

But then further down it says:

"Every blog you make will automatically update itself with unique, custom written content. You don't need to waste time writing, because it's all done for you."

My feeling is that they give you a WP installer that gives you a blog that is seo optimized and has some plugins that will help you with rankings and traffic. (a la Keith Baxter's stealth traffic plugin). You have to add the original content but then you can add your blog to a network like UAW or SEOlinkvine to get content added to it automatically.

Could someone who has purchased CB Predators enlighten us as to what exactly is on the inside?
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THIS PRODUCT IS TOTALY ****!!!!!DONT BUY!!!

-You can only choose a few products(5)to promote,so 100's(or more)of the same new wp blogs every month's go online....
-No training material
-It's a "ok i bought it and now what"product targeted for newbies that get lost easily and probably bought the useless upsells that are WAYYY to expensive also!
-the site that i created didn't even work!
-You can not edit(or remove your site)in your site creation menu one's your site is build.
-The only video is not indebd so you dont know what everything is for and what to fill in and why it's importend etc..
-you have to rewrite/spin the content yourself!!WTF
-asked for a refund
-this product is totaly overhyped!!
As i understand there is a limited number per user and not all users get the same site(s) - and did you actually spend TIME with it or did you come to this conclusion after 5 mins of "playing" with it?

As for the spinning....even if its the case that you can choose from pre-spun patterns and then insert whatever patterns in your blog, it would STILL make blogs way, way faster than writing everything per hand.

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i played with it for 2hrs..
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It does all sound too good to be true - likely to be a catch somewhere.
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hum I don't know perhaps, perhaps not, I'd like to see some more reviews

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I found it interesting that the product creators didn't even shoot a short 3 minute video showing everyone what type of sites it is this software creates. If I created a product like what's being hyped, I would want to show it off to the entire world. Something to hide???

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It does all sound too good to be true - likely to be a catch somewhere.
If it sounds too good to be true it probably is,that is what a lot of people are saying and it realy is true!
This product is misleading you all over,made to rip your cash out of your pocket and leave you in the cold after that.
Better buy Google Sniper from George Brown!
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yeah that did make me wonder Bc I was expecting it too

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What about an actual demonstration of the product instead of these silly clickbank videos/screen shots?? So annoying.
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I found it interesting that the product creators didn't even shoot a short 3 minute video showing everyone what type of sites it is this software creates. If I created a product like what's being hyped, I would want to show it off to the entire world. Something to hide???
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somewhere into 2:00 mins of that video you can see a site, but this is an early video and it seems he didnt put too much effort into making this demo site. You can also see that the sites are using wordpress and the flexsquezee theme. For me as someone who works with wordpress each day this is enough to know - i agree tho that he should have a video with some "kicka$$" looking site which looks a little more "exciting" than that one in the video.

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Whenever I see those clickbank shots these days I'm skeptical. I mean I can create those on my laptop in about 5 minutes.
What really annoys me is all that hype, but they actually tell you nothing. You pay out your money for .............. what - a surprise that may not be anything like what has been 'described'. Yet another letdown.
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I got a link to this offer and read the sales letter a couple of times just to be clear what's being offered.

Personally, I avoid any offer where it isn't clear the amount of financial commitment you're asking people to make. Offering a product at a price then indicating on the purchase page in light print that there is a monthly billing doesn't show intergrity. I understand it's a marketing gimmick, but it just isn't right IMO.
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I like the concept, but I believe its pretty early and its clear that those of you that actually purchased it arn't exactly singing its praises yet. Having not purchased it I wouldn't presume to know what it does but I do know that I won't pay to beta test a product, which is essentially what is happening right now in my opinion. I would feel more comfortable if they made me pay an on time fee because then I knew for sure I was promoting whatever product I wanted. But I understand that they are providing "cookie cutter" content on a monthly basis for the products they decide are good to sell, so if you trust them to pick those products for you I guess paying them isn't too bad of a model.

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hum clint not sure it's totally cookie cutter as they say they have duplicate content filters etc might give it a go...

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I got a link to this offer and read the sales letter a couple of times just to be clear what's being offered.

Personally, I avoid any offer where it isn't clear the amount of financial commitment you're asking people to make. Offering a product at a price then indicating on the purchase page in light print that there is a monthly billing doesn't show intergrity. I understand it's a marketing gimmick, but it just isn't right IMO.
I'm totaly with you!
It's misleading.

This product is only targeted for newbies who rush into these kind of things and expect to make a ton of money doing nothing at all,and forget that they pay a monthly fee and after 6 months they ask themself "hey where did that money go to?",after they checked there creditcard bill.
The product owner and there affiliates are the one's that get the money.
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This is certainly something you need to learn how to use right, and they say that even.

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If you think this product is a magic pill that will make you money without any effort please do not buy it.

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Where did you get the impression that anyone claimed you "don't need to do anything at all"...from all videos and reviews its (pretty) clear what its for and what it does. If there are naive people who think they can get a "system" which makes money without doing anything, it's those people's problem. Yes, i know that MANY people actually think so <--- But to be honest they shouldn't be in marketing in the first place....

Those people are indeed better off simply going on some site like flippa and BUYING a ready site - instead of getting such a product where (God beware!!) you need to do a little to make your own web sites.

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I like the line that comes right after the one you mentioned:

"You will be required to put effort into learning this system and with Adwords there is a very real possibility you may lose money."

I read through the whole sales page and the idea of using adwords wasn't mentioned once. Then in the fine print they throw this curveball in there?

Either the course has to do with adwords or it doesn't. That should be something you talk about in the sales page.

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That adwords could be simply a leftover by mistake, or intentional. Don't know. Anyway, nothing wrong saying that you can lose money with Adwords, i do that all the time

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That adwords could be simply a leftover by mistake, or intentional. Don't know. Anyway, nothing wrong saying that you can lose money with Adwords, i do that all the time
I agree with that George, but if it is to do with adwords wouldn't it have been better to have mentioned it somewhere in the sales letter, not tucked away at the bottom in pale grey text?

This doesn't, for me, inspire a great deal of confidence in the product or their marketing technique.
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CB Predators doesn't have anything to do with adwords, however you are free to advertise your sites with adwords as you can do with any other sites.

Furthermore...why would they need to write in BOLD and big letters "You can LOSE money with adwords?" if the product primarily has really nothing to do with it. Its an affiliate review site maker.

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THIS PRODUCT IS TOTALY ****!!!!!DONT BUY!!!

-You can only choose a few products(5)to promote,so 100's(or more)of the same new wp blogs every month's go online....
-No training material
-It's a "ok i bought it and now what"product targeted for newbies that get lost easily and probably bought the useless upsells that are WAYYY to expensive also!
-the site that i created didn't even work!
-You can not edit(or remove your site)in your site creation menu one's your site is build.
-The only video is not indebd so you dont know what everything is for and what to fill in and why it's importend etc..
-you have to rewrite/spin the content yourself!!WTF
-asked for a refund
-this product is totaly overhyped!!
I bought this, but not the two upsells for $197(then$97) and another $67 (probably recurrent, but correct me, if I missed this).
I was actually annoyed to see that the upsells promised you to get training, 4 more blogs per month, choice amongst "4-figure-selling" products, inner circle info from gurus/experts, Google traffic trick etc.

My worries, that all these essentials for building lucrative sites are not given to the "average" member who has to pay $67 upfront, then $37 recurrent/month, were actually confirmed, when I entered the pretty empty looking entry-section.
There is one very basic, rushed video about how to fill in essential info, meta tags, ftp details etc., when you want to create a new site.
The review-content-template is broken into sections, so actually every phrase/sentence of the actual product review needs to be slightly (or totally) rewritten.
In the video they don't show you where you could choose the template for the blog or where you could alter things, put images in etc.
I am just left to assume I can enter my new blog hopefully via wordpress admin area and manage plugins, posts, pages, media, etc there.

The promise on the sales page that this was a set-and-forget product is IMO just hot air.
Where does the "average" member get traffic from?
How will fresh content (that I as a member will apparently get from their writer team) be posted then?
Are the left-over products (after all the platinum members got to choose the good ones) bringing in the same? Or less? Or far less?

I did write to support about all these concerns I mentioned here.
So, I will update you with their solution!

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Yeah please let us know about your findings and what support replies to you inquiry.

One question: So even as "average" user - can you make a complete site or not? Why shouldn't you? And why shouldn't you be able to log in your site using admin area and tweak if you want so?

(Not that i think this would be the purpose of it...if i want to tweak i would rather make a site from scratch manually, then i can choose templates, things like that. But IMHO the primary use for this is to make sites fast *without* doing all this stuff, the already included template might as well be sufficient for getting such a site up?)

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I found it interesting that the product creators didn't even shoot a short 3 minute video showing everyone what type of sites it is this software creates. If I created a product like what's being hyped, I would want to show it off to the entire world. Something to hide???
Maybe they have better conversion rates with the salespage
as it is now, who knows.

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I found it interesting that the product creators didn't even shoot a short 3 minute video showing everyone what type of sites it is this software creates. If I created a product like what's being hyped, I would want to show it off to the entire world. Something to hide???
It happens a lot. They aren't the first and certainly won't be the last.

But in all honesty, if you're selling software, the least you can do is create a demo video
of the software doing what is promised in the sales copy.

At least show it building 1 site.

This is one of the reasons people jumped all over Amish's Magic Bullet System.

He did a product demo of him using his software to build a site, build his payperclick campaign, and even optimize it later on.

Whether or not people appreciated the software for what it was truly worth, a ton
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The promise on the sales page that this was a set-and-forget product is IMO just hot air.
Where does the "average" member get traffic from?
How will fresh content (that I as a member will apparently get from their writer team) be posted then?
Are the left-over products (after all the platinum members got to choose the good ones) bringing in the same? Or less? Or far less?

I did write to support about all these concerns I mentioned here.
So, I will update you with their solution!

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And there are a few others.... IMHO they'll feed your site and using PF Links and then they'll ping it with the others, hoping that you'll ranks for the terms you optimised it on during setup.

Hence the 15 minute setup claim followed by a hands off approach.

Not sure how that will work with 100's of people promoting the same few offers... though with all IM products how many people actually get that far? Launch will be tight cause everyone will try but if you stick it out for the monthly releases they'll be less and less action takers; leaving those who really implement it to make some cash.

BTW they are not talking mega bucks from each site, but you don't need much to cover your outlay.

I agree with earlier posts reference needs more content in the members area, but if you have joined just chill and give it a few days; you have 60 to get a refund so don't sweat it... lots of launches start like this and then get going after a couple of days.

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Don't buy things you don't know what you're going to get. The Gurus say use video to make us sell things better. So where is the videos? Even in WSO seller demonstrate what they sell. And Unfortunately when it comes to clickbank it doesn't matter. Well to me it is just full of hype.

The seller claim he made about 19,000/m let's make it 20,000/m for easy math. So if 1000 buys his system then 20,000/m divide by 1000 member = 20/m. The systems won't work because of that alone.

But then again most of us just enjoy hypie things. It feels good to go with the wave doesn't it.

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I bought this, but not the two upsells for $197(then$97) and another $67 (probably recurrent, but correct me, if I missed this).
I was actually annoyed to see that the upsells promised you to get training, 4 more blogs per month, choice amongst "4-figure-selling" products, inner circle info from gurus/experts, Google traffic trick etc.

My worries, that all these essentials for building lucrative sites are not given to the "average" member who has to pay $67 upfront, then $37 recurrent/month, were actually confirmed, when I entered the pretty empty looking entry-section.
There is one very basic, rushed video about how to fill in essential info, meta tags, ftp details etc., when you want to create a new site.
The review-content-template is broken into sections, so actually every phrase/sentence of the actual product review needs to be slightly (or totally) rewritten.
In the video they don't show you where you could choose the template for the blog or where you could alter things, put images in etc.
I am just left to assume I can enter my new blog hopefully via wordpress admin area and manage plugins, posts, pages, media, etc there.

The promise on the sales page that this was a set-and-forget product is IMO just hot air.
Where does the "average" member get traffic from?
How will fresh content (that I as a member will apparently get from their writer team) be posted then?
Are the left-over products (after all the platinum members got to choose the good ones) bringing in the same? Or less? Or far less?

I did write to support about all these concerns I mentioned here.
So, I will update you with their solution!

Cheers,
It was the sincere sounding email from CB Predators that 'sold' me. However, when I got inside I headed for support with the title of my ticket being 'Where IS everything?', with text following of course.
Their reply was:
Hello

More videos and training materials are being created for the members area and are coming soon

Regards

In regards to what's written above, now that I've had time to think about it, there's some remorse going on here because without the platinum upgrade, what tid-bits will be left behind? These days I'm almost always ready, with the hair sticking out at the top of my neck, for an upsell but that was really steep. Plus, I hate the kind that make you feel that what you just bought was worthless without the new offering.

Will see!

Hard to believe I forgot about being a member for so long.
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In regards to what's written above, now that I've had time to think about it, there's some remorse going on here because without the platinum upgrade, what tid-bits will be left behind? These days I'm almost always ready, with the hair sticking out at the top of my neck, for an upsell but that was really steep. Plus, I hate the kind that make you feel that what you just bought was worthless without the new offering.

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LOL... exactly how I feel about the upsell - it makes you feel that you're only getting 50%; the other 50% goodies will be revealed only if you buy another product.
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