MChriston

They're both from Brad Callen and they seem to offer the same functionality. So...

Is SEOLinkVine the same as MyArticleNetwork?
Is one just a rebrand of the other?

And if so...

Does anyone know why he's having to re-release the service?

As the service relies on a network of sites, does this mean he didn't managed to establish the 'network' the first time round?

If legit and does the job, I could be very interested. But if it's a rebrand of an old idea then I'm kinda skeptical. What's your thoughts?

Thanks,

M

Dexx

Nope, Brad already answered this in another SEOLV thread within this section:

SEO Linkvine = MyArticleNetwork (AMA)?

and M.A.N. isn't from Brad Callen, it is by Matt Callen (his brother)

~Dexx

Brad Callen

Thanks Dexx. As Dexx said, SEOLV's stuff is 100% unrelated to any other network. No re-branding of anything. And it's very established, as it's been in private beta for months. If you have any other questions, I'd be more than happy to answer if the mods don't mind.

Brad

MChriston

Thanks Dexx and Brad (sorry for not noticing other thread! doh!)

And thanks for being up for answering questions (if the mods stop us please ping me an email address via PM instead).

Functionally - is it similar to MyArticleNetwork? ...As I did try that but on further investigation was concerned about the lack of coverage in the area I work within. In other words, I can see how these networks work for classic niches like weight loss etc, however will SEOLV work for other niches outside of classic niches too?

My interest would be as a creator of business-to-business products and services (non-IM).

Thanks Brad (always great to see creators of tools willing to 'play ball' on a forum!)

Michael

Brad Callen

Hey Michael, no problem. To answer your question, yes, the overall process is similar to myarticlenetwork. Will the coverage be similar? I'm not sure. I do know that we're adding more blogs faster than any other network, so based on that I would say that topics would be much more broad. Also worth noting is I would advice not trying to get links that are TOO specific only. That would limit you far too much. An off topic link is better than no link :-)

Brad

GeorgR.

Brad, i just saw your fatloss site and i know the keyword...i am sold If you can rank #1 or #2 for this keyword then its a given you can rank for everything Very impressed, to say it mildly...

Brad Callen

Hey George, let's keep it a secret as to which site, as I really don't want Google to get any bright ideas. It's happened before. Also, please keep in mind that SEOLV isn't the only link building method I use. I am a member to almost every link building network there is, plus I do a ton of content creation etc. But SEOLV did play a major role. Just don't want to give anyone the wrong idea. Thank ya.

Brad

GeorgR.

yeah, read that on your site. No worries. By the way will PM because i have a question.

gleneagle

It's the same thing dude, the main concept is still the same. You submit articles to its networks of blogs, and published (whether it's auto approved or manually approved.) He can say things like oo we have more quality blogs, monitoring tool and other bla bla bla but the main concept IS THE SAME!

Does it work? Backlinks that you will get will be from a 0 Page PR so don't expect too much about ranking. High PR backlinks are the most important part of SERP (If you want to rank on a competitive kw).

It's true that You can get top 10 google listing with a link from the inner page of high ranking domain., because of its authority environment, but that's not enough to rank on a high competitive keywords.

IT's not just about quantity but the most important thing is the backlinks quality, I have blogs that outranked other blogs with only a handful of quality backlinks.

This is BULS**IT, just another so called guru trying to steal your money, just do it manually using blog commenting on high PR pages, that should be enough to get you high ranked position and add Angela or Paul backlinks.

Like He said, this is not the only tool he's using, and he say that it plays major role, bla, bla. (I want your money..., just get in here, I can get you tons of backlinks, well if you're lucky, but perhaps you can be happy with 10 backlinks, because it depends on the quality of your articles, and the blog owners, and ooo here's 1000 backlinks but it's all from 0 pages because it's a new post, what do you expect? SERP? Hmm I can't guarantee that because there are so many factors involve...)

NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE TOP 10 LISTING DUDE, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE REALITY! THIS is just another failure.

Bcrewse1

Hey Glen,

You sound like you have used SEOLinkVine and failed miserably. Did you? If not how to you qualify your post? Oh..I see it's your ONLY post....that explains it. [IMG]http://********************/BN/BP.gif[/IMG]

gleneagle

SEOLINKVINE is still close man?

I'm analyzing the concept, based on my own experience.

I have been experimenting with SEO for about a year now and I have several blogs that are ranking in top 10 listing of Google for all my target keywords. And yes I've been failed miserably using links from a 0 PR pages. I have 2 dead blogs with over 1000 1 - 0 link pr pages, not even reaching top 20 google listing. (that's what you will get, tons of baclinks from a 0 pr pages blog posts)

Go ahead and use this service if you want to have dead websites. SEO is not complicated, and ironically the best method is the ones that are done manually.

GeorgR.

Its funny since i JUST finished a blog post on another site where i took the freedom to "set people straight" in regards to the SEO value of blog commenting and profile backlinks.

The other thing is that as it seems EVERY user can add a site to the SEOLV, so why should every site be PR0? The network will be as good as the sites people put in there.

You have two posts and bash something, and i could list at least SOME knowledgeable SEOs which would agree with me that blog commenting is (almost) a waste and a GOOD link building network is way, way better.

However, i have not seen ONE of them recommending blog commenting as the best and primary way to gain rankings.

Your post seems like just another input of someone rather bashing and emotionally "arguing" instead of giving a real REVIEW <----

SIDE NOTE: Angela and Paul's, all right...i dont even know where to start. Most of them are PR0 sub pages, most of the people offering those "link packages" services dont even know the difference between domain PR and page PR. MOST OF THE profile pages have PR0, dont even get indexed if you dont ping/submit them in addition. HARDLY a serious way to get rankings. I even had "link packages" here where all the profile pages where on ONE IP on the same blog network/IP...no further comment needed.

gleneagle

Read my post carefully before replying.

I never said that the blogs on the network are all PR 0, I said that the link for on your article will be a PR 0 page because it's a new post and if that post page did not get any backlinks then it will be a PR 0 for ever, it's still have a seo value (even though not much) if the main website is an authority website.

Like I said, I'm not commenting based on other people ebooks about blog commenting or forum profiling, but I've been experimenting with these methods for a year, I walk the word, and do what I preach.

The result is REAL! I have GOOD SERP on a very competitive keywords in the technology industry. So whatever blog post you mentioned earlier about blog commenting or profiling, it won't make any difference because I've been there, done that and it works! Maybe it didn't work for you, maybe my system is better than you, but hey nevertheless it's working for me.

And one of my experiments also involving getting lots of backinks from a very low pr pages, like blog post, blog commenting, profiling, forum posting, with over 1000 links but didn't help much on the SERP, resulting only 2 dead blogs with 10-15 UV perday.

There you have it!

I was just saying that this method is not the solution to get good ranking for a competitive keywords, where the strength of the top 10 listing requires more than just google sniper method or forum profiling.

And the health website that Brad mentioned is not doing that well because he's been using this method solely, that's why he didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea, as if thinking that his successful weight loss website is getting its success merely by using SEOLINKVINE METHOD, and then he mentioned about how he's a member of lots linking membership website, content creation, and God knows what else he got under his sleeves.

GeorgR.

There is another thread where people who were in the BETA reported seeing real results by only to submitting to SEOLV with no other link building done. Well...unless they are lying...

gleneagle

OMG man...

Did you know what kind of keywords they are targeting? How about the strength of the top 10 listing for their keywords? I have dozens of inner pages using an ezinearticles and goarticles that ranked top 10 listing with only 10-15 backlinks.

They are not lying of course, but the fact is that the market/ keywords they are targeting did not require much of SEO efforts. (A weak market)