PPC Classroom

dean mcevoy · 10-15-2008, 03:07 AM

has anybody checked out pcc classroom let, iv been getting louds of hype about it in my in-box

the guy behind it is supposed to make $2.4M a year. i have trouble beliving that

thanks in advance

askloz · 10-15-2008, 03:16 AM

You have trouble, trouble what?

Amit is not the guy behind it, he's just helping out like Jeremy Palmer did, who also makes over $2M a year at PPC. Amit knows his stuff, join up.

the info there is top class.

tommyp · 10-15-2008, 03:47 AM

I was a member and for me the PPC Classroom version 1 was good but what I liked the most was that Jeremy Palmer was involved. The membership for me was not worth it and I stayed there to long. I also didn't like some other things but I won't get into details here.

Version 2 is with Amit Mehta and he seems to know what he is talking about.

Version one was $500. This one is $77.

I'd say if you want to get into Adwords it could very well be worth it to you but you need to really consider how you like the membership the first 30 days. That's the part I found useless. It may not be useless to everyone.

I canceled so I don't think I can get version 2 for free. I think PPC Classroom 1 owners are supposed to get version 2 also but I'm no longer in the monthly membership.

If you want to get this I would recommend you buy through Jeremy Palmer's link because he is giving ihs PPC Classroom 1 as a bonus for anyone who buys PPC Classroom 2 through his link.

I don't mind recommending that cause I think he's a top notch guy.

He's also got a whole free training course at the Black Ink Project and his great e-book is free too. Google him and you'll find him.

RoyChan · 10-15-2008, 04:29 AM

What's the upsell after you paid $77? Don't like all the launches that surprise you with the "really" good stuff after their lowly priced item...

James Schramko · 10-15-2008, 09:14 AM

The upsells revolve around niches handed to you, a copy of a prior seminar and other stuff. There are a lot of upsells.

upnorth · 10-15-2008, 09:47 AM

I bought this yesterday.

Too early to say if it's good or bad, but first impression about the site management is not that good. I can't even access the Bonus items, they are having tech problems.

Yesterday they sent a generic support message

''...As I'm sure you are aware, we're having some technical problems with the system.

The errors are being worked on around the clock right now and we'll have them fixed ASAP...''

I tried to contact support a few minutes ago and can't even access the ticket system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by netpro7

What's the upsell after you paid $77?

The upsell ! you can't miss that one, they are even going stronger then GoDaddy, If you registered a domain with them, you know the style...

So, I don't know if this product was ready for launch

Dan

Yetty · 10-15-2008, 01:23 PM

I think it should be a good one. $77 Is not bad

dean mcevoy · 10-15-2008, 01:32 PM

from what iv heard i think ill wait a while before stumping up.

although by then there will proberbly be let anouther "miricule guide"

elofmark · 10-15-2008, 02:37 PM

I bought PPC Classroom last night, and I too am a bit miffed by all the upsells. $77, then a OTO for $97 -(7 videos), then another OTO for 3 free niches / month $297, but if you said no, the price was cut down to $137, then a final OTO for a $700 /month coaching program.

I thought I would be able to download a lot of the content, but it is all server based. So I started going through the info last night and finally went to bed.

Today, I can't access the website. I have never received a welcome email. My login doesn't work for the help desk. So I don't know what to say.

My next step is to call my CC to see if it was charged.

It's probably a great program, if they can figure out their technical difficulties.

Stephen

lpmarket · 10-15-2008, 02:58 PM

I've been trying to join today but can't complete the order process. The upsells, in my opinion seem like things that should be in the course to begin with.

lpmarket · 10-15-2008, 03:56 PM

I just received a call from my credit card fraud protection that my credit card was charged twice by ppc classroom for $77 even though I have not been able to complete the sign up process.

Just a word of caution... maybe wait... don't even try to sign up because the system just charges your card even though the sign up process is broken.

By far the worst online purchasing experience I have ever had!

Call me nuts but I still want to join...

P.S.
I keep trying to post a comment on the pcc classroom blog because its the only way for me to contact them... but the moderator won't post the comment... what with that.

dean mcevoy · 10-15-2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpmarket

By far the worst online purchasing experience I have ever had!

Call me nuts but I still want to join...

thats the power of a good copywriter for you

Jay Deiboldt · 10-15-2008, 04:18 PM

Some people don't understand that the upsells are good marketing. They are teaching their customers how to buy from them.

It raises customer value, and if the additional information and training warrants the price, than why would you be upset with them offering it to you?

Marketers who sell a front end product and that's it go broke. It's as simple as that.

Look at Filsaime and Stomper. Theres a reason they make 8 figures a year and it's not because they stop at 1 front end product in their sales process.

Frank Kern does a $297 forced continuity on a $1997 product. Then he sold a Platinum coaching program at the free seminar he held for all customers - BUT the value is there - and that's what really matters.

His higher end customers get more personal access and coaching, his monthly members get great content, and he gets PAID. It's a win-win

It's way more constructive to learn from peoples' sales processes than to criticize them.

khughey · 10-15-2008, 04:22 PM

Purchased the base $77 package.

I just now went into the training area.

I haven't gone through the training yet so I can't review on the actual content. However, I browsed around the site and I was expecting a bit more.

Doesn't look like the $77 option includes any video/multimedia presentation by Amit. Was hoping to hear him teach about some of his techniques within the member area. Looks like most the training is divided into modules that then display static pages with no ability to download the content (at least none that I see at the moment). The few pages I looked at seemed pretty basic and I didn't see anything that looked like "insider info" from the expert. Maybe there isn't much insider info needed....just a boat load of action and a little "luck" (actually believe luck is "laboring under correct knowledge").

There is a forum area, but it appears that I don't have access to it. Not sure if this is due to the $77 option or some technical glitch.

I'm starting to think that the experience I was expecting after watching the sales videos is not what you get for $77, but maybe the upsells instead. Oh well.... I'll go thru the content in the next week and decide if it's worth the investment.

Of course, the site may change over night....who knows.

Ken

tommyp · 10-15-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

It's way more constructive to learn from peoples' sales processes than to criticize them.

You wouldn't find flaws in things if you just default them as being right. Analysis and criticism is useful when done objectively and creatively.

Jay, I think it's because people are promised the world upfront and then are let down by being bombarded with OTOs and Upsells after they decide to pay for the introductory product. This makes them feel that what they originally decided after (sometimes, long) consideration is not good enough and feel deceived into getting the first product just to be coerced (so to speak) into entering a crazy maze of "super size its" that basically send the message or at least is interpreted by the customer as "You won't make it without this extra stuff or will be handicapped just with the original product". You can argue about it but that's the psychology and arguing logic isn't going to change it. And I believe that at least at some level people's reasoning in this situation isn't always emotional and has good reasoning behind it.

Doubt enters the mind and thoughts like "Well if I don't get that coaching and I don't get this and I don't get that I am going to be at a disadvantage. I won't have the edge that others have because I can't afford all that and so then what's the point?.. I probably won't be able to get everything I can out of the original product plus I feel duped and I am tired of feeling like I am being played with"

There may be those who don't understand the profitability in this model but many others do, and they aren't necessarily ignorant of it. But the bottom line is that even if they recognize the potential in upsells, OTOs, cross sells, etc., at that moment they are a customer who is parting with their cash and being taken on an emotional roller coaster ride who may resent the seller for feeling like were being played with and that's it as far as I am concerned.

And let's face it - most people who buy these are not experts who are even in a position and have any sort of anything they could truthfully call a business to which they can apply these models.

They are people who are at some level of desperation who may or may not cut it at this sort of stuff at any rate regardless of where their motivation comes from (either buying a dream or are in serious or in the right state of mind).

A lot of people knee jerk into accusing people of being scammers and have joy in bitching in defaming others but taht doesn't mean that all grievances are invalid.

Probably more often than not it is the sellers fault (I'm not necessarily saying it's the case here) because they make big promises that they don't deliver in order to get people through the door.

I don't blame these guys for doing what they do. They are in business and if I ever have the opportunity I will upsell and do OTOs, too, but ether will always be those who are in a situation, state of mind, special circumstances and in a place in their life that will help dictate whether or not what is in front of them or the loop they fall into has value or not and rightfully so.

These sellers need to accept, if they don't, that often they create the disappointment people experience.

Yea, customers need to take responsibility but as long as some of these guys do some things the way they do they will make people resentful and they can be okay with that (I don't blame them too much because you can't please everyone) but they have to accept it and there's no point arguing because like I said at the time they are generally people at some level of desperation and if they feel like you're being slimy they will get mad and they can actaully be right and not wrong regardless of whether they recognize the model they are using.

As far as value that is in the eye of the beholder. For all my wanting to quit smoking and using the methods in the Mass Control monthly in order to keep my membership I was disappointed in the last issue. I have canceled. To me it was a joke. But to the next person it may be the bomb. It all depends.

Anyway I'm done rambling.

I've read the posts here and a lot of it sounds familiar to the first launch.

Amit no doubt knows what he is doing but I also have little doubt that one thing he will recommend is that you have to do what is necessary to keep your campaigns going even if it means taking a risk like getting a credit card, spend thousands if need be and hope to make even in profit to pay that off and that is going to be scary to people.

For anyone who doesn't want to do that you will have to take the long and patient road, limit your budget to what is comfortable and be willing to wait much longer.

I think the original offer will be good even without the OTOs, so it could be a great investment for a lot of people, but you may want to get Jeremy Palmer's bonuses or someone else's. Like I said before Jeremy Palmer is giving away PPC Classroom version 1 for buying through his link.

But if you have bought other Adwords ebooks and even a couple of higher priced Adwords courses, you might not need this. Try it if you want and if you don't like it then get your money back.

I feel like I wasted my time cause it's always the same song and dance at these launches but if I helped anyone with my post then there you go.

Jay Deiboldt · 10-15-2008, 05:24 PM

All valid points. And first I just want to be clear, I'm in no way affiliated with PPC classroom, and I don't promote them either, so I can't say a thing about the pros or cons of their actual product.

The point i'm making is that every single time a new product launches, people flock to the forum to bitch about the upsells, the oto's, the continuity, etc

Whereas if they learned from the actual sales processes themselves they would clearly see how these dudes are making as much money as they do.

And just like you said. The content for MCM wasn't valuable for you, so you discontinued.

No one can't do that.

lpmarket · 10-15-2008, 06:16 PM

Tommy well said.

I just received an email thanking me for my purchase (never authorized). And no log-in link, password or anything.

I did learn something from the sales process....How not to do things.
You can be the best marketer in the world but if you can't close, then whats the point?
You can create the best product ever created, but if you can't deliver, whats the point?

elofmark · 10-15-2008, 09:10 PM

Still no welcome email.

I tried to login again, and chose to reset my password. I entered my email and they said check your email, we're sending your PW. Well that was 30 min ago. Still nothing.

But I did get 2 more emails from affiliates saying the server crashed but it's all up and running again. So I guess they can sell more product, but they can't take care of the people who already bought. Great way to do business!

If I ever find out how to get their attention, I will be asking for a refund.

Stephen

Jay Deiboldt · 10-15-2008, 09:13 PM

I totally agree - you should learn from the good and the bad. It's a great way to find what to do, and what not to do.

elofmark · 10-15-2008, 09:26 PM

Thanks, Jay!

BTW. I just followed you on Twitter!

Stephen B.

himanuzo · 10-15-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elofmark

I bought PPC Classroom last night, and I too am a bit miffed by all the upsells. $77, then a OTO for $97 -(7 videos), then another OTO for 3 free niches / month $297, but if you said no, the price was cut down to $137, then a final OTO for a $700 /month coaching program.

This tactics is cagey. The creator wants more money from you. So please be careful.

MikeAmbrosio · 10-15-2008, 10:03 PM

As an FYI regarding the site issues...

These guys had everything ready to go on their end in preparation for a HUGE roll out launch. Several servers, backup server, all kinds of goodies.

But that didn't stop the problems. There were apparently some issues with their MySQL - the fault of their server company. It didn't rear it's ugly head until launch time.

I'm sure they will have everything sorted soon. Including any unauthorized or double charges. Just keep checking back with them.

Mike

eebee · 10-16-2008, 03:47 AM

I also can't access the site. Am pleased to hear that it is not just me so they must be having a problem. I just got an acknowledgement I bought it but not a proper receipt and no way of logging in. Hope they fix it soon as no response from them after 3 emails. I think if they are having a problem it shouldn't stop them answering help emails.

Re all the upsells. It just made me want to get a refund since the first product already promised all of that and now they tell me it doesn't do it, right after I paid. Only they do not even tell you how to get a refund!

James Schramko · 10-16-2008, 06:52 AM

I think you can learn a lot from the upsells People need to do what is best for themselves (like the merchant is doing with upsells). If you do not want something - don't buy it.

khughey · 10-16-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khughey

Purchased the base $77 package.

I just now went into the training area.

I haven't gone through the training yet so I can't review on the actual content. However, I browsed around the site and I was expecting a bit more.

Doesn't look like the $77 option includes any video/multimedia presentation by Amit. Was hoping to hear him teach about some of his techniques within the member area. ...

I'm starting to think that the experience I was expecting after watching the sales videos is not what you get for $77, but maybe the upsells instead. Oh well.... I'll go thru the content in the next week and decide if it's worth the investment.

In order to be honest.... here is an update on my earlier post....

As I'm now actually going through the training, it looks more comprehensive than my first impression. There are some additional links that I initially missed that expand the material quite a bit.

I hope that the lessons will eventually be available for pdf download.

It's looking better.....

crazyinternetdude · 10-16-2008, 03:44 PM

So far - good stuff. But I'm a little suprised at your "find it hard to believe" comment. You've never used PPC?

econos · 10-16-2008, 07:18 PM

I would like to have a detailed comparison between Commission Blueprint and PPC Classroom 2.0.

Thanks.

econos · 10-16-2008, 07:22 PM

Hi Tommyp,

Can you please give me Jeremy Palmer's link?

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyp

If you want to get this I would recommend you buy through Jeremy Palmer's link because he is giving ihs PPC Classroom 1 as a bonus for anyone who buys PPC Classroom 2 through his link.

I don't mind recommending that cause I think he's a top notch guy.

He's also got a whole free training course at the Black Ink Project and his great e-book is free too. Google him and you'll find him.

Blitzian · 10-16-2008, 07:34 PM

Ok the PPC Classroom 2.0 launch had its hiccups, I would like to add my .02 cents here

1) The upsells - personally I am not a big fan of the series of upsells. Mike Filsaime compares the digital product upsell to adding a coke to your meal at your burger joint. However unlike digital product upsell, in the coke analogy I have already had a coke so its not a big decision to make.

I saw these series of upsell firsthand when I took up the 7 figure secrets trial offer and it felt like, hello just let me complete the damn order. However when you look at it from a marketers perspective you will realize that you may not always be able to satisfy 100% of you customers. So turns into a numbers game.

If you are going to have 98% happy customers and 2% not so happy customers (because of your upsell), would you want to make "X dollars" or would you want to make "5X dollars"?
(Assuming you over deliver on the value promised irrespective of the customer bought the upsell or not)

2) Regarding the tech issues with PPC Classroom, I agree it was a mess. Now being a JV partner its a bigger mess for me because I am sending PPC traffic and when that damn sales page dosen't load means I am losing money. However I have launched membership sites and do know that sometimes there are hiccups.

I do understand that as a customer if I dont get instant access to the product that I ordered I would be pissed. I guess PPC Classroom has the support system built into the same private member area, so that might be the reason why some of you may not be able to access the support.

Anik runs several membership sites and I am sure he will fix the tech issues shortly, however if you are still paranoid shoot me a PM with your name and email that you used to order ppc classroom and I will forward that to the affiliate manager at PPC Classroom. I doing this just as a fellow warrior and I dont promise the response you will get.

3) now the bigger question several people have asked here about the value ppc classroom 2.0

I have been a member of PPC classroom since the time it launched in Oct 2007. And I have also reviewed whats inside PPC Classroom 2.0. V 2.0 is completely different from V1.0 and has keyword manipulation tools, landing page templates and graphics packages.

For $77 (even if you dont buy any of the upsells) I can tell you , you will get 20x what you will learn from a $47 ebook on clickbank.

However I will tell you this, its not a miracle solution, you will still need to put in $10-$20 a day for your ad campaigns and work your a** of to make a profitable campaign.

troon · 10-16-2008, 08:00 PM

I joined on Tuesday, my CC was charged, never received a welcome email and never have been able to access the member area. I understand that there may be problems with any launch, however, what is unacceptable is that my support request have been completely ignored. I have sent them FOUR emails, issued three support tickets, called them and left two voice mails and used their "lost password" link three times. NO RESPONSE! Yes, I have white listed their support email addr. and others as well and I check my spam folder regularly.
Tomorrow I will do a charge-back on my CC because there is obviously no way to request a refund if they won't answer inquires. STAY AWAY!

Zach · 10-16-2008, 08:13 PM

Ya, Troon is 100% right! Stay away from PPC Classroom. No support whatsoever. Also doing a charge back!!!!

fielding · 10-16-2008, 08:44 PM

Sure they have had some technical problems but PPC Classroom will give you refunds so chill out ..

I think if you flood their technical support you are only going to slow the refunds down .. But regardless nowhere else are you going to find this level of ppc training for $77 dollars .. check this out ..

check out the blog ppcclassroom.com / blog

You might learn something too from the upsells .. I mean this is a forum about internet marketing right

affiliateppc · 10-16-2008, 09:43 PM

Tech issues aside, it was worth the money for me.

I have been doing affiliate marketing via PPC for 7 months now and I am making a decent living with it. After reading the sales page, I realized that I am already familiar with most of the material. However, they covered one aspect I wanted to know more about.

That one aspect (1 Module in the training related to Keywords) alone was worth much more than the price tag. For me personally. It was a light bulb moment. I was doing the complete opposite of what I was suppose to be doing and I STILL made money. I have now implemented the change, still too early for results, but my eyes were opened. This one aspect alone will make me a truck load of money in the next 12 monts.

In my personal opinion, thats what it is all about. Learning something that you can implement that will increase your profit. And for $77? Cmon!

I am looking forward to meeting other PPCC members in the PPCC Forum once it is opened. One thing is certian, the networks are going to be sending me bigger checks in the months to come.

AffiliatePPC

lpmarket · 10-16-2008, 11:16 PM

I finally got into the members area today. In a previous comment I said it was BS that people could be "Half way through the training". In all fairness after getting in and almost finishing half the training today it IS obviously possible... so that previous comment I made was not correct.

Still have issues with getting support and accessing the forum, but I'm going to go through the course and give a more complete review and opinion later.

After seeing how many people were viewing this thread, I personally don't want to unfairly discourage people who may actually benefit from the course.

askloz · 10-16-2008, 11:24 PM

Well, I can tell you this, for those that get in now, are going to save a BIG AMOUNT! And I mean HUGE!

I was one and still am one of the PPC Classroom 1.0 guys, I paid $500 to get into the course then $49.97 a month thereafter to access the forum and all the information there.

Now, you guys are getting it for $77.00 and then $29.97 thereafter each month... You've also got more information to view, far much more than PPC C 1.0 guys had...

Anyone who doesn't take Anik up on this offer, must have rocks in their head - no offense ment, btw...

Seriously... I took a long time out from PPC before coming across PPC Classroom, and lost about $6,000.00.

After joining, I was down to about 12k more, I figured I had missed some critical information, and sure I had after searching the forums and asking Jeremy Palmer who was on the team during the first version, and he helped fill in some gaps that I had over looked.

I now spend around $100k a month, sometimes less, sometimes a little more returning not a big amount, but pops into the 30% ROI area every once in a while.

Now you guys are getting Amit on the team showing you even more tricks of the trade.

Jump in!

You'll be glad you did.

John Collins · 10-17-2008, 09:02 AM

So does any body have any thing worth while to say about the actual content of the product. I've looked at it several times and am still interested but not ready to jump for the buy button.

Let me get this straight - you pay pay $77 for the trial and $29.97 thereafter each month. That gets you access to the automation tools. There are 3 OTO's - one for $97 (videos), another for 3 niches $297 month, and last but not least a final OTO for a $700 month coaching.

What you are to believe on the sales page is the you can do this successfully for $77 for the trial and $29.97 after. But all the hidden behind the buy button costs make me think differently.

A lot of talk and testimonials on the sales page from PPC Classroom 1 how much they make collectively. Don't say how many people in that group and how many are making money and how many not. The first 5 testimonials at the top of the page seem to be from people using PPC C2 but the 10 down below although framed with a large title that says "Customer Testimonial PPC Classroom 2 new" but at the bottom says (small print) "** This testimonial is from last year's course..." - which was PPC C1 not C2. I find those type of sales copy techniques less than honest. Kinda used car salesman tactics. If something is good you need to inflate the balloon. Guess they had to fill the page with something. How about telling about all the upsells and true cost.

That said I'm still on the fence of buy or not. Some of the people here defending the product I recognize as a launch partner(s) or affiliate(s) with something to gain so I'm dismissing your post(S) when I decide. I'm either on your list or I found you via Google. I may still buy via your link I just want to hear from people not making a buck on it.

lpmarket · 10-17-2008, 09:14 AM

The $77 is not for a trial but for the base course. The additional monthly fee is for continuing education on more advanced topics and continued access to the forum, as I understand it.

As far as content I am on Module 4, there are 9 total. So I have gotten some info especially about how to recognize possible good products with clickbank and CJ. But the lessons can be applied to other Affiliate Networks too. The section on keyword research also seemed to be good, in my opinion.

I've been doing PPC only for about 6 months. Of course until I actually put the information in this course to work and am able to give more information... sorry.

brendan301 · 10-17-2008, 10:25 AM

I bought yesterday and received access to the member's area a few hours later. What I'm waiting on now is access to the forum. I have some questions on some campaigns I want to put up ASAP.
Overall, I like the content, I've gotten some good ideas in the introductory info. The videos sometimes won't play so i download them. but so far so good, i have no complaints.
I have to get some campaigns up before i can report on results. matter of fact, i might blog about that. in addition, time permitting, i may do a post here on my results

Kevin McNally · 10-17-2008, 11:07 AM

I am just starting to go through the modules now, most of my online income is from organic listings but I have a decent amount of ppc knowledge so I am looking for advanced stuff.

I have no problem with upsells, that's good marketing that you can learn from but I skipped most of them ( especially the one where the upsell is showing you how to set up a campaign live as I assumed this would be covered in the course ? ) . I did take the niche 30 day trial where "under the radar" niches are discussed, the pdf reports are decent but I was disappointed they focused on well known clickbank products as this is hardly "under the radar".

The fisrt few modules are aimed at beginners, if you know how to research keywords and find good affiliate programs with CJ and Clickbank then you won't find any secrets but the information is solid enough.

Check out Module 4, step 5 , that's when it starts to get interesting for me.

A lot of the really good stuff will probably be added in later modules so there is the incentive for keeping members wanting more detailed information but it's a no brainer to try out for $77 with a money back guarantee.

Blitzian · 10-17-2008, 11:16 AM

Hi John,

I understand you are a bit sceptical of a review from a launch partner/affiliate, however I have made video of whats inside ppc classroom and show how to use some of the tools too. You can find that video in my signature.

Even if you don't buy the upsells, new bonuses are being added today. And these are not some hyped up stuff but real products that are being sold right now for way more than the $77 price tag on ppc classroom 2.0

Here is some of the bonuses that is being added to ppc classroom 2.0 just for today and it seriously blows the bonuses of launch partner/affiliates.. damn it..
1. Affiliatextreme - Mark Ling ($197)
2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack - Amish Shah ($2,000)
3. Premium NicheBot - Jim Morris ($382)
4. Google Cash v2 - Chris Carpenter ($67)
5. SECRET COURSE - Andre Chaperon ($497)
6. Keyword Butler - MindValley Team ($147)
7. SpeedPPC - Jay Stockwell ($397)
8. Negative Keyword Smackdown - Mark Roth ($247)
9. LIVE PPC Event - Howie Schwartz ($1,000)

I seriously doubt if anyone can make a better offer for $77.

brendan301 · 10-17-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shravnan

Hi John,

I understand you are a bit sceptical of a review from a launch partner/affiliate, however I have made video of whats inside ppc classroom and show how to use some of the tools too. You can find that video in my signature.

Even if you don't buy the upsells, new bonuses are being added today. And these are not some hyped up stuff but real products that are being sold right now for way more than the $77 price tag on ppc classroom 2.0

Here is some of the bonuses that is being added to ppc classroom 2.0 just for today and it seriously blows the bonuses of launch partner/affiliates.. damn it..
1. Affiliatextreme - Mark Ling ($197)
2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack - Amish Shah ($2,000)
3. Premium NicheBot - Jim Morris ($382)
4. Google Cash v2 - Chris Carpenter ($67)
5. SECRET COURSE - Andre Chaperon ($497)
6. Keyword Butler - MindValley Team ($147)
7. SpeedPPC - Jay Stockwell ($397)
8. Negative Keyword Smackdown - Mark Roth ($247)
9. LIVE PPC Event - Howie Schwartz ($1,000)

I seriously doubt if anyone can make a better offer for $77.

are these new bonuses only for people who buy today?

troon · 10-17-2008, 01:04 PM

Because of all my support problems someone said to chill out because I can get a refund. Will that "someone" please tell me how I can a get refund if they do not respond to support emails? Guess I'll have to do a charge back.

Blitzian · 10-17-2008, 01:19 PM

Hi Brendan, You will get those bonuses if you have already purchased ppc classroom 2.0.

DonDavis · 10-17-2008, 03:16 PM

Is the addition of bonuses after the initial launch, part of the launch strategy or is it a sign that the product isn't selling as well as expected and needs a push?

elofmark · 10-17-2008, 06:45 PM

I'm still among the folks who can't log in, can't get an email returned, can't get a password reset, can't get any help tickets responded to, even sent an email to andrew@affiliateclassroom.com (like he said on the site - if all else fails!) and still no response.

What am I supposed to do? Act like nothing is wrong? Believe that they will get their ____ together and cross my fingers?

Someone should be in charge of people that have dropped out of sight like me. Makes me wonder if they are so overwhelmed that they can't think straight.

Stephen

tommyp · 10-17-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Deiboldt

All valid points. And first I just want to be clear, I'm in no way affiliated with PPC classroom, and I don't promote them either, so I can't say a thing about the pros or cons of their actual product.

The point i'm making is that every single time a new product launches, people flock to the forum to bitch about the upsells, the oto's, the continuity, etc

Whereas if they learned from the actual sales processes themselves they would clearly see how these dudes are making as much money as they do.

And just like you said. The content for MCM wasn't valuable for you, so you discontinued.

No one can't do that.

Jay, I understand your point. I agree that is one way to milk as much money as you can from your launch. I also understand that people always go through the same rigamorole (sp?) that why I said it's always the same song and dance every time.

Although people making character judgments because they did get their login and pass is going to far. These things can happen to anybody, but based on my experience with the first one they seemed to be very disorganized and maybe that's happened again.

But I know what you're saying dude. I don't disagree, but seeing what they are doing and learning from it, while that's fine, doesn't address the problems people are facing right now.

All the best.

tommyp · 10-17-2008, 07:46 PM

I'll PM you the email. You should've PMd me cause I didn't plan on coming back to this thread and I may not have seen your message, but I think you still have time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by econos

Hi Tommyp,

Can you please give me Jeremy Palmer's link?

Thanks.

tommyp · 10-17-2008, 09:25 PM

Okay, I went and bought it today just because of a couple of the bonuses.

I haven't looked at it yet and I know 99% I won't keep the membership (based on my last experience - it was 90% worthless to me) but I'll try to remember to say what I think here after I look at it. If it's not worth it to me, I will get a refund. Even if it isn't (main product) but I like the bonuses I won't get a refund, but if I'm not happy enough with all of it in general I will.

This is what I did when I ordered:

First page:

I did get the first 30 day free niche thing. I did this not because of the niche. Everybody is going to have the same niches and keywords so what's the point. I did it because of the videos. It might be interesting to see what criteria Amit has for picking a niche and to watch him do it.

I opted to learn more about the 7 videos.

Second page:

The videos were what I figured. They are the videos from PPC Classroom live 2007. We were supposed to get these for free, but then we didn't but they eventually uploaded presentations from 2 speakers. I got miffed about this last time so now I said "No Thanks I'd rather learn this on my own" choosing not to get the videos. If I remember right most people who got them said they were okay but overall no big woop.

Third page:

This is for "Look over my shoulder" videos. I didn't get it (Something similar to this should probably have been part of the main purchase, but whatever). If they keep their promise with the main product what is told in these videos should generally be covered in the PDFs. If I don't, I'm getting a refund.

So to all you lucky people there are still 143 left instead of 142 :-D

Fourth page:

Same offer as above at 50% off but you get the videos after they are done. So if you were to get the offer on page 3 then reconsider whether you absolutely need to attend live. If not then just say NO and get them half off when it asks you again.

Fifth page:

It was the final download page with 3 of the modules and saying that they will set up my account and get back to me.

I thought there was some offer for $700 monthly coaching but I didn't see that. Maybe that was limited and they sold out. Doesn't matter because I would have said no anyway.

Okay. I'll wait and see what happens.

==========

Okay, I'm sorry that some people had trouble but either I got lucky or it's been fixed because I got my login and and password immediately and I'm in the member's area. I think I have to wait for access to the forum. I haven't gone through anything but they have my congratulations for doing a good job organizing things in the members area because last time it was atrocious.

David Neale · 10-18-2008, 12:45 AM

I was finally able to login tonight and looked around, read and watched some modules, tried a few tools and even took one of the quizzes after a module.

I think this is worth the $77 for sure, at least for beginner-intermediate. I don't consider my self an expert in PPC-Aff Sales so I can't comment on what an expert might think of the value.

Haven't even looked at the bonuses yet.

troon · 10-18-2008, 01:15 AM

elofmark:

I have same problem as you and have also done everything you mentioned and still no response from support. I even called them and left three voice mails!
Very frustrating. If not resolved by Mon. will do a charge back on my CC. There is simply no excuse to ignore repeated support requests from a customer who has paid hundreds of dollars. These guys probably have a great program...to bad I can use it!

10-15-2008, 03:07 AM	#1
dean mcevoy Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	PPC Classroom has anybody checked out pcc classroom let, iv been getting louds of hype about it in my in-box the guy behind it is supposed to make $2.4M a year. i have trouble beliving that thanks in advance
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10-15-2008, 03:16 AM	#2
askloz ForexSignalMentor.com War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,084 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 35 Thanked 151 Times in 117 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom You have trouble, trouble what? Amit is not the guy behind it, he's just helping out like Jeremy Palmer did, who also makes over $2M a year at PPC. Amit knows his stuff, join up. the info there is top class.
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10-15-2008, 03:47 AM	#3
tommyp Coming Down w/ Tourette's War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 519 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I was a member and for me the PPC Classroom version 1 was good but what I liked the most was that Jeremy Palmer was involved. The membership for me was not worth it and I stayed there to long. I also didn't like some other things but I won't get into details here. Version 2 is with Amit Mehta and he seems to know what he is talking about. Version one was $500. This one is $77. I'd say if you want to get into Adwords it could very well be worth it to you but you need to really consider how you like the membership the first 30 days. That's the part I found useless. It may not be useless to everyone. I canceled so I don't think I can get version 2 for free. I think PPC Classroom 1 owners are supposed to get version 2 also but I'm no longer in the monthly membership. If you want to get this I would recommend you buy through Jeremy Palmer's link because he is giving ihs PPC Classroom 1 as a bonus for anyone who buys PPC Classroom 2 through his link. I don't mind recommending that cause I think he's a top notch guy. He's also got a whole free training course at the Black Ink Project and his great e-book is free too. Google him and you'll find him.
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10-15-2008, 04:29 AM	#4
RoyChan HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: China Posts: 253 Thanks: 8 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC Classroom What's the upsell after you paid $77? Don't like all the launches that surprise you with the "really" good stuff after their lowly priced item...
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10-15-2008, 09:14 AM	#5
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,029 Thanks: 97 Thanked 315 Times in 148 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom The upsells revolve around niches handed to you, a copy of a prior seminar and other stuff. There are a lot of upsells.
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10-15-2008, 01:23 PM	#7
Yetty Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I think it should be a good one. $77 Is not bad
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10-15-2008, 01:32 PM	#8
dean mcevoy Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom from what iv heard i think ill wait a while before stumping up. although by then there will proberbly be let anouther "miricule guide"
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10-15-2008, 02:37 PM	#9
elofmark Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I bought PPC Classroom last night, and I too am a bit miffed by all the upsells. $77, then a OTO for $97 -(7 videos), then another OTO for 3 free niches / month $297, but if you said no, the price was cut down to $137, then a final OTO for a $700 /month coaching program. I thought I would be able to download a lot of the content, but it is all server based. So I started going through the info last night and finally went to bed. Today, I can't access the website. I have never received a welcome email. My login doesn't work for the help desk. So I don't know what to say. My next step is to call my CC to see if it was charged. It's probably a great program, if they can figure out their technical difficulties. Stephen

10-15-2008, 02:58 PM	#10
lpmarket Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I've been trying to join today but can't complete the order process. The upsells, in my opinion seem like things that should be in the course to begin with.

10-15-2008, 03:56 PM	#11
lpmarket Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I just received a call from my credit card fraud protection that my credit card was charged twice by ppc classroom for $77 even though I have not been able to complete the sign up process. Just a word of caution... maybe wait... don't even try to sign up because the system just charges your card even though the sign up process is broken. By far the worst online purchasing experience I have ever had! Call me nuts but I still want to join... P.S. I keep trying to post a comment on the pcc classroom blog because its the only way for me to contact them... but the moderator won't post the comment... what with that.

10-15-2008, 04:18 PM	#13
Jay Deiboldt Google Slapper War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY USA Posts: 449 Thanks: 7 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC Classroom Some people don't understand that the upsells are good marketing. They are teaching their customers how to buy from them. It raises customer value, and if the additional information and training warrants the price, than why would you be upset with them offering it to you? Marketers who sell a front end product and that's it go broke. It's as simple as that. Look at Filsaime and Stomper. Theres a reason they make 8 figures a year and it's not because they stop at 1 front end product in their sales process. Frank Kern does a $297 forced continuity on a $1997 product. Then he sold a Platinum coaching program at the free seminar he held for all customers - BUT the value is there - and that's what really matters. His higher end customers get more personal access and coaching, his monthly members get great content, and he gets PAID. It's a win-win It's way more constructive to learn from peoples' sales processes than to criticize them.

10-15-2008, 04:22 PM	#14
khughey MarketingHunters.com War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 49 Thanks: 9 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom Purchased the base $77 package. I just now went into the training area. I haven't gone through the training yet so I can't review on the actual content. However, I browsed around the site and I was expecting a bit more. Doesn't look like the $77 option includes any video/multimedia presentation by Amit. Was hoping to hear him teach about some of his techniques within the member area. Looks like most the training is divided into modules that then display static pages with no ability to download the content (at least none that I see at the moment). The few pages I looked at seemed pretty basic and I didn't see anything that looked like "insider info" from the expert. Maybe there isn't much insider info needed....just a boat load of action and a little "luck" (actually believe luck is "laboring under correct knowledge"). There is a forum area, but it appears that I don't have access to it. Not sure if this is due to the $77 option or some technical glitch. I'm starting to think that the experience I was expecting after watching the sales videos is not what you get for $77, but maybe the upsells instead. Oh well.... I'll go thru the content in the next week and decide if it's worth the investment. Of course, the site may change over night....who knows. Ken
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10-15-2008, 05:24 PM	#16
Jay Deiboldt Google Slapper War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY USA Posts: 449 Thanks: 7 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC Classroom All valid points. And first I just want to be clear, I'm in no way affiliated with PPC classroom, and I don't promote them either, so I can't say a thing about the pros or cons of their actual product. The point i'm making is that every single time a new product launches, people flock to the forum to bitch about the upsells, the oto's, the continuity, etc Whereas if they learned from the actual sales processes themselves they would clearly see how these dudes are making as much money as they do. And just like you said. The content for MCM wasn't valuable for you, so you discontinued. No one can't do that.

10-15-2008, 06:16 PM	#17
lpmarket Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Tommy well said. I just received an email thanking me for my purchase (never authorized). And no log-in link, password or anything. I did learn something from the sales process....How not to do things. You can be the best marketer in the world but if you can't close, then whats the point? You can create the best product ever created, but if you can't deliver, whats the point?

10-15-2008, 09:10 PM	#18
elofmark Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Still no welcome email. I tried to login again, and chose to reset my password. I entered my email and they said check your email, we're sending your PW. Well that was 30 min ago. Still nothing. But I did get 2 more emails from affiliates saying the server crashed but it's all up and running again. So I guess they can sell more product, but they can't take care of the people who already bought. Great way to do business! If I ever find out how to get their attention, I will be asking for a refund. Stephen

10-15-2008, 09:13 PM	#19
Jay Deiboldt Google Slapper War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY USA Posts: 449 Thanks: 7 Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC Classroom I totally agree - you should learn from the good and the bad. It's a great way to find what to do, and what not to do.

10-15-2008, 09:26 PM	#20
elofmark Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Thanks, Jay! BTW. I just followed you on Twitter! Stephen B.

10-15-2008, 10:03 PM	#22
MikeAmbrosio Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,470 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 109 Thanked 148 Times in 94 Posts Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom As an FYI regarding the site issues... These guys had everything ready to go on their end in preparation for a HUGE roll out launch. Several servers, backup server, all kinds of goodies. But that didn't stop the problems. There were apparently some issues with their MySQL - the fault of their server company. It didn't rear it's ugly head until launch time. I'm sure they will have everything sorted soon. Including any unauthorized or double charges. Just keep checking back with them. Mike
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10-16-2008, 03:47 AM	#23
eebee Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 37 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I also can't access the site. Am pleased to hear that it is not just me so they must be having a problem. I just got an acknowledgement I bought it but not a proper receipt and no way of logging in. Hope they fix it soon as no response from them after 3 emails. I think if they are having a problem it shouldn't stop them answering help emails. Re all the upsells. It just made me want to get a refund since the first product already promised all of that and now they tell me it doesn't do it, right after I paid. Only they do not even tell you how to get a refund!

10-16-2008, 06:52 AM	#24
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,029 Thanks: 97 Thanked 315 Times in 148 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom I think you can learn a lot from the upsells People need to do what is best for themselves (like the merchant is doing with upsells). If you do not want something - don't buy it.
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10-16-2008, 03:44 PM	#26
crazyinternetdude HyperCrazy Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Dan Kennedy Internet Marketing Rehab Center Posts: 70 Thanks: 6 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom So far - good stuff. But I'm a little suprised at your "find it hard to believe" comment. You've never used PPC?

10-16-2008, 07:18 PM	#27
econos HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 125 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I would like to have a detailed comparison between Commission Blueprint and PPC Classroom 2.0. Thanks.

10-16-2008, 07:34 PM	#29
Blitzian HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , India. Posts: 172 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Ok the PPC Classroom 2.0 launch had its hiccups, I would like to add my .02 cents here 1) The upsells - personally I am not a big fan of the series of upsells. Mike Filsaime compares the digital product upsell to adding a coke to your meal at your burger joint. However unlike digital product upsell, in the coke analogy I have already had a coke so its not a big decision to make. I saw these series of upsell firsthand when I took up the 7 figure secrets trial offer and it felt like, hello just let me complete the damn order. However when you look at it from a marketers perspective you will realize that you may not always be able to satisfy 100% of you customers. So turns into a numbers game. If you are going to have 98% happy customers and 2% not so happy customers (because of your upsell), would you want to make "X dollars" or would you want to make "5X dollars"? (Assuming you over deliver on the value promised irrespective of the customer bought the upsell or not) 2) Regarding the tech issues with PPC Classroom, I agree it was a mess. Now being a JV partner its a bigger mess for me because I am sending PPC traffic and when that damn sales page dosen't load means I am losing money. However I have launched membership sites and do know that sometimes there are hiccups. I do understand that as a customer if I dont get instant access to the product that I ordered I would be pissed. I guess PPC Classroom has the support system built into the same private member area, so that might be the reason why some of you may not be able to access the support. Anik runs several membership sites and I am sure he will fix the tech issues shortly, however if you are still paranoid shoot me a PM with your name and email that you used to order ppc classroom and I will forward that to the affiliate manager at PPC Classroom. I doing this just as a fellow warrior and I dont promise the response you will get. 3) now the bigger question several people have asked here about the value ppc classroom 2.0 I have been a member of PPC classroom since the time it launched in Oct 2007. And I have also reviewed whats inside PPC Classroom 2.0. V 2.0 is completely different from V1.0 and has keyword manipulation tools, landing page templates and graphics packages. For $77 (even if you dont buy any of the upsells) I can tell you , you will get 20x what you will learn from a $47 ebook on clickbank. However I will tell you this, its not a miracle solution, you will still need to put in $10-$20 a day for your ad campaigns and work your a** of to make a profitable campaign.
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10-16-2008, 08:00 PM	#30
troon Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	STAY AWAY FROM PPC CLASSROOM I joined on Tuesday, my CC was charged, never received a welcome email and never have been able to access the member area. I understand that there may be problems with any launch, however, what is unacceptable is that my support request have been completely ignored. I have sent them FOUR emails, issued three support tickets, called them and left two voice mails and used their "lost password" link three times. NO RESPONSE! Yes, I have white listed their support email addr. and others as well and I check my spam folder regularly. Tomorrow I will do a charge-back on my CC because there is obviously no way to request a refund if they won't answer inquires. STAY AWAY!

10-16-2008, 08:13 PM	#31
Zach Warrior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Ya, Troon is 100% right! Stay away from PPC Classroom. No support whatsoever. Also doing a charge back!!!!

10-16-2008, 08:44 PM	#32
fielding Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Sure they have had some technical problems but PPC Classroom will give you refunds so chill out .. I think if you flood their technical support you are only going to slow the refunds down .. But regardless nowhere else are you going to find this level of ppc training for $77 dollars .. check this out .. check out the blog ppcclassroom.com / blog You might learn something too from the upsells .. I mean this is a forum about internet marketing right

10-16-2008, 09:43 PM	#33
affiliateppc Landing Page Expert War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Limpopo, South Africa Posts: 71 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom Tech issues aside, it was worth the money for me. I have been doing affiliate marketing via PPC for 7 months now and I am making a decent living with it. After reading the sales page, I realized that I am already familiar with most of the material. However, they covered one aspect I wanted to know more about. That one aspect (1 Module in the training related to Keywords) alone was worth much more than the price tag. For me personally. It was a light bulb moment. I was doing the complete opposite of what I was suppose to be doing and I STILL made money. I have now implemented the change, still too early for results, but my eyes were opened. This one aspect alone will make me a truck load of money in the next 12 monts. In my personal opinion, thats what it is all about. Learning something that you can implement that will increase your profit. And for $77? Cmon! I am looking forward to meeting other PPCC members in the PPCC Forum once it is opened. One thing is certian, the networks are going to be sending me bigger checks in the months to come. AffiliatePPC

10-16-2008, 11:16 PM	#34
lpmarket Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I finally got into the members area today. In a previous comment I said it was BS that people could be "Half way through the training". In all fairness after getting in and almost finishing half the training today it IS obviously possible... so that previous comment I made was not correct. Still have issues with getting support and accessing the forum, but I'm going to go through the course and give a more complete review and opinion later. After seeing how many people were viewing this thread, I personally don't want to unfairly discourage people who may actually benefit from the course.

10-16-2008, 11:24 PM	#35
askloz ForexSignalMentor.com War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,084 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 35 Thanked 151 Times in 117 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC Classroom Well, I can tell you this, for those that get in now, are going to save a BIG AMOUNT! And I mean HUGE! I was one and still am one of the PPC Classroom 1.0 guys, I paid $500 to get into the course then $49.97 a month thereafter to access the forum and all the information there. Now, you guys are getting it for $77.00 and then $29.97 thereafter each month... You've also got more information to view, far much more than PPC C 1.0 guys had... Anyone who doesn't take Anik up on this offer, must have rocks in their head - no offense ment, btw... Seriously... I took a long time out from PPC before coming across PPC Classroom, and lost about $6,000.00. After joining, I was down to about 12k more, I figured I had missed some critical information, and sure I had after searching the forums and asking Jeremy Palmer who was on the team during the first version, and he helped fill in some gaps that I had over looked. I now spend around $100k a month, sometimes less, sometimes a little more returning not a big amount, but pops into the 30% ROI area every once in a while. Now you guys are getting Amit on the team showing you even more tricks of the trade. Jump in! You'll be glad you did.
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10-17-2008, 09:02 AM	#36
John Collins HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA. Posts: 307 Thanks: 16 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC Classroom So does any body have any thing worth while to say about the actual content of the product. I've looked at it several times and am still interested but not ready to jump for the buy button. Let me get this straight - you pay pay $77 for the trial and $29.97 thereafter each month. That gets you access to the automation tools. There are 3 OTO's - one for $97 (videos), another for 3 niches $297 month, and last but not least a final OTO for a $700 month coaching. What you are to believe on the sales page is the you can do this successfully for $77 for the trial and $29.97 after. But all the hidden behind the buy button costs make me think differently. A lot of talk and testimonials on the sales page from PPC Classroom 1 how much they make collectively. Don't say how many people in that group and how many are making money and how many not. The first 5 testimonials at the top of the page seem to be from people using PPC C2 but the 10 down below although framed with a large title that says "Customer Testimonial PPC Classroom 2 new" but at the bottom says (small print) "** This testimonial is from last year's course..." - which was PPC C1 not C2. I find those type of sales copy techniques less than honest. Kinda used car salesman tactics. If something is good you need to inflate the balloon. Guess they had to fill the page with something. How about telling about all the upsells and true cost. That said I'm still on the fence of buy or not. Some of the people here defending the product I recognize as a launch partner(s) or affiliate(s) with something to gain so I'm dismissing your post(S) when I decide. I'm either on your list or I found you via Google. I may still buy via your link I just want to hear from people not making a buck on it.
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10-17-2008, 09:14 AM	#37
lpmarket Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom The $77 is not for a trial but for the base course. The additional monthly fee is for continuing education on more advanced topics and continued access to the forum, as I understand it. As far as content I am on Module 4, there are 9 total. So I have gotten some info especially about how to recognize possible good products with clickbank and CJ. But the lessons can be applied to other Affiliate Networks too. The section on keyword research also seemed to be good, in my opinion. I've been doing PPC only for about 6 months. Of course until I actually put the information in this course to work and am able to give more information... sorry.

10-17-2008, 10:25 AM	#38
brendan301 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 203 Thanks: 18 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I bought yesterday and received access to the member's area a few hours later. What I'm waiting on now is access to the forum. I have some questions on some campaigns I want to put up ASAP. Overall, I like the content, I've gotten some good ideas in the introductory info. The videos sometimes won't play so i download them. but so far so good, i have no complaints. I have to get some campaigns up before i can report on results. matter of fact, i might blog about that. in addition, time permitting, i may do a post here on my results
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10-17-2008, 11:07 AM	#39
Kevin McNally Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 832 Thanks: 9 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom I am just starting to go through the modules now, most of my online income is from organic listings but I have a decent amount of ppc knowledge so I am looking for advanced stuff. I have no problem with upsells, that's good marketing that you can learn from but I skipped most of them ( especially the one where the upsell is showing you how to set up a campaign live as I assumed this would be covered in the course ? ) . I did take the niche 30 day trial where "under the radar" niches are discussed, the pdf reports are decent but I was disappointed they focused on well known clickbank products as this is hardly "under the radar". The fisrt few modules are aimed at beginners, if you know how to research keywords and find good affiliate programs with CJ and Clickbank then you won't find any secrets but the information is solid enough. Check out Module 4, step 5 , that's when it starts to get interesting for me. A lot of the really good stuff will probably be added in later modules so there is the incentive for keeping members wanting more detailed information but it's a no brainer to try out for $77 with a money back guarantee.

10-17-2008, 11:16 AM	#40
Blitzian HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , India. Posts: 172 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PPC Classroom Hi John, I understand you are a bit sceptical of a review from a launch partner/affiliate, however I have made video of whats inside ppc classroom and show how to use some of the tools too. You can find that video in my signature. Even if you don't buy the upsells, new bonuses are being added today. And these are not some hyped up stuff but real products that are being sold right now for way more than the $77 price tag on ppc classroom 2.0 Here is some of the bonuses that is being added to ppc classroom 2.0 just for today and it seriously blows the bonuses of launch partner/affiliates.. damn it.. 1. Affiliatextreme - Mark Ling ($197) 2. AffiliateUprising & HexaTrack - Amish Shah ($2,000) 3. Premium NicheBot - Jim Morris ($382) 4. Google Cash v2 - Chris Carpenter ($67) 5. SECRET COURSE - Andre Chaperon ($497) 6. Keyword Butler - MindValley Team ($147) 7. SpeedPPC - Jay Stockwell ($397) 8. Negative Keyword Smackdown - Mark Roth ($247) 9. LIVE PPC Event - Howie Schwartz ($1,000) I seriously doubt if anyone can make a better offer for $77.
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10-17-2008, 01:04 PM	#42
troon Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: PPC Classroom Because of all my support problems someone said to chill out because I can get a refund. Will that "someone" please tell me how I can a get refund if they do not respond to support emails? Guess I'll have to do a charge back.