matthewd

Is the auto sign up already released for SEnuke?

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Yup...Just came out today Matthew...

They have sped up the application greatly as well

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Dixiebelle

I find it really hard to believe a Warrior actually wrote this!

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graphicsgenie

Get real,

Also read the rest of the thread, its an opionion (NOT MINE) but it has to be understood to see the full picture. Anyone who doesnt see that, in my opinion wont make it in this game.

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Dixiebelle

I have seen several reputations nearly or completely ruined, since I have been on this forum, and believe me, it was, in some cases, their fault.

Before you all turn purple, just hold on a minute - I'm not through!

Developing a product, takes a lot of time and effort, and sometimes a lot of money. The developer is anxious to get it finished and on the market, which is understandable. The last thing on his/her mind is "reputation", which really should be the first. They just want to get the thing out there. More often than not, there hasn't been a whole lot of testing going on. If any, it is done by a "techie".

People become unhappy for various reasons, and start demanding refunds. Then they get on forums and start blasting the product and the developer.

Just remember this:

"It is much easier to get a customer, than it is to get them back."

A long time ago, I heard someone mention "the grandma test". You may have also heard of it. Of course it doesn't have to be a grandma. It could be a relative, friend, newbie - whatever.

Instead of being so anxious to hit the market with your product, you should first give it to someone who is totally unfamiliar with marketing or using new software. Let them download it, install it, and use it, all by themself for a couple of weeks. When they call or email you for instructions, or tells you there is something they don't understand, or says that they can't get something to work - fix it. If something needs to be added to your help file - do it. If grandma is having a problem, you can rest assured, there will be others who will have the same problem. When "grandma" reaches a point where she can use the product on her own, with no help from you, that's the time to unleash it on the public - not before.

If more people would make sure their products really work, and their instructions are crystal clear, it would go a long way toward preserving their reputation, plus not having to refund their hard earned money to a lot of angry people.

Granted, there are a few people out there who are habitual refund seekers, but they are usually exposed rather quickly. If everyone used my method of dealing with this kind of person, after a while, there would be no one for them to buy from. After refunding, I simple block them from my sites, and they can NEVER buy from me again.

So there you are. If you have a grandma, put her to work. If you don't, then borrow someone else's. Just make sure that your product is the best of it's kind, and your next product will be more readily acceptable to the same people. Plus, they will sing your praises all over the web, instead of blasting you to high heaven.

I hope no one gets upset because I expressed my opinion. It wasn't meant to cause a problem or start an argument with anyone. Just my $.02.

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tommyp

Dixie,

I agree.

Not about the refunders though, unless they are serial refunders who always buy and cancel the same day. Maybe three strikes and you're out?

Anyway, there were beta testers but I don't know how many. But these are probably mostly people who have developed online friendships who are customers of Pete's who may have had success before and were allowed first dibs at the software for testing. I don't know but that's sort of what it looks like.

When you beta test something you have to try and break it and do all sorts of things to see if it conks out, whether it's a video game or a software application.

I understand what you mean about the grandma test, but this is probably more useful for clarifying the interface and the process the user should take in using the software because other people who are familiar with similar kind of software may be able to figure it out regardless. If this isn't done in order to see where people may fumble, then meticulous and clear instructions need to be given and guessed ahead of time.

On the other hand it might be better to use people who are familiar with the type of software and what it's used for for testing and to push the software and try to "break it".

But testing should also be done across different configurations. I don't mean people whose computer's are bogged down with spyware to the point their systems are really messed up because that's extreme and those people need to take better care of their computers. But the general user often has their OS doing some sort of quirks that the next person's doesn't and vice versa.

If the software has only been tested on XP. It should say so. If it has only been tested on Service Pack 2 it should probably say so and so on.

It's probably ideal to get people to test who have legit copies of Windows, non-legit (hey I'm just saying cause that's a lot of people), who have service pack 3, others have service pack 2, home, professional, X amount of RAM, IE 6, IE 7, and whatever else and combination.

This may not be as easy as it sounds, but it could probably have been better than just selecting a relative few to test on a limited number of systems who are already making money doing this stuff with his other software or following the process laid out in his reports. You'd want people who are serious but they could apply and answer a questionnaire. People who would go through a lengthy application are most likely more serious and likely to actually use the software to test it than someone who may just ask to beta test in order to get a free copy.

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carik42

I decided to give BF a look as I'm a big fan of Pete's stuff, and I have to say that so far I'm pretty disappointed.

I totally understand that new systems take a while to get right, but after just 8 days inside the BF system it's clear to see that there are some major problems. My biggest issue is due to the fact that I installed the system on my Vista laptop, and it wasn't until after a few days that they realised there were problems with running BF on Vista PC's. But how did that happen? How can a product be thoroughly beta tested, only for the problem to become apparent once paying customers started using it??

Fortunately, a paying member posted a temporary workaround in the forum that allowed Vista users improved functionality, but I still can't believe that these issues slipped through the net. I understand that Pete and his team are currently working on an update for Vista users, but this means that you have to pay a months subs just to see if it works. Hmm.

So I've given Pete and the gang the benefit of the doubt for now and I've continued my membership, despite only being able to use around 10% of what it says on the tin. I'm not worried about the cost, I just want to see what is without doubt a fantastic idea, work in the way Pete suggests and help me automate my business.

Such great promise for this product, but at the time of this post it's fallen below my expectations. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the updates, and keep you updated on any progress I make.

sannyman

In my case, I sent the link to few friends. Two of them enrolled as affiliates and in total, five took the trial. I got 5 payments of 22 cents (from 1 US$) and 2 payments of almost 31 US$ each. Now, think to the conversion rate.

Going forward, Peter admitted that there were issues on Vista 64bit and some other fixes were required, based on different scenarios that you could use. Even so (I use WinXP) it was not affecting me and I can tell you that the software IS working and it is NOT a waist of time.

Peter Drew gave for free the techniques used - or to be used "by hand" - so it is not necessary to have BF SEO in order to apply them. If you want to automate the procedures, you will have to consider BF SEO also...

Now here are two thoughts from other persons that I discuss with, in regards to BF SEO:

and

Regarding the results: well, I intend to open a different thread, after having the complete tests finished and I will personally invite Mr. Drew (Peter) to comment them.

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danutah

I was really looking forward to Pete's BF software and I have to say I was totally disappointed.

Pete made a comment about not blaming the tool, well if you load up the info and push the start button and it doesn't do what it stated it would do who are you suppose to blame

I don't see how he expects people to pay $97 while he works the bugs out.

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spudzz

Pete Drew has some good ideas, but the resulting products are usually under-developed at the initial marketing stage and don't get good for a few months afterwards. The problems are usually basic and shouldn't be there on a publicly released product.

It's always too easy to underestimate the development time for a piece of software but marketers (and it's pretty well all of them) really must get out of the habit of starting to market before a product is at an advanced enough stage. It causes a momentum that nearly always ends in disappointment. The Product Launch Formula approach works great, but only for finished products.

cashflowmommy

I think most Warriors find it "distasteful" that certain marketers use this forum to extract money from our wallets in exchange for products that don't work as advertised and/or aren't properly supported. ***please see note below***

Warriors are good people, and someday an honest but negative review might save you time, frustration, and your hard earned cash.

Note: My comment above relates in general to WSO's, and is NOT necessarily directed towards Brute Force or its developer. My point is that we should not censor negative info about a product because the seller belongs to the forum, whether it's Pete or someone else.

As for the Brute Force product, I don't see why you feel the owner is being "bashed". Yes, there are people unhappy with it because it doesn't work for them, but is that really bashing? I think what they've posted is quite relevant to others making a purchasing decision. Why shouldn't their voice be heard?

Karen Newton

You are SO spot on - when marketers take you for a ride, take your money and "run", it's absolutely unforgivable.

BUT - I must step back into this thread to say something in reply to this post. Peter Drew is not one of those people. He, and his products, have done nothing but HELP me grow my business and free up my time. Not only have I been successful with his products, he himself is extremely helpful and supportive to many.

There are those that have had trouble with his latest software, Brute Force SEO. It's understandable to hear of their frustrations. BF is not perfect, and I also have run into problems with it. Does that mean it's not worth it? For me, it's definitely worth it, as I have been fortunate to reap the benefits of it. Whether or not it's worth it to you or anyone else is something you have to decide for yourself.

Because a piece of software doesn't work for YOU, does that make it appropriate to make blanket statements and directly or indirectly bash a fellow Warrior? Sounds to me that you think because you have problems with a particular software, that makes the marketer responsible distasteful, irregardless of whether or not others love the software and are successful with it. Isn't that a bit... narrow minded?

No personal offense meant in any of the above, to anybody.

Karen

Paxton

I'd like to echo Karen's sentiments from the above post.

I've had quite a few dealings with Pete over the last few months and have 3 things to say:

1. I like his products: They work for me and kind of appeal to my way of thinking
2. His support has been spot on whenever I've needed it
3. I like the guy

Will his stuff work for everybody ? Probably not
Will his stuff work with a little bit of elbow grease ? YES, absolutely

Everybody is entitled to an opinion and I respect everybody's right to their opinion. In my opinion, Pete's stuff works and works well.

If you're willing to grant me the same courtesy I grant you, then you'll just have to respect my opinion.

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Barry Walls

Had the full package for a few hours to have a look at it....then asked for a refund while saying that I would come back in a few months when the software was working as advertised...was denied. Pretty dissappointed....and surprised to be honest. Charge backs are a pain in the ass....will use this thread as proof that goods aren't as advertised.

Pete has gone down IMO.

Edit to say that I bought SENuke which ROCKS!

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cashflowmommy

Karen -- I'm glad the software worked for you and you've gotten value from it. I think it's great that you posted your comments, because EVERYONE's opinions should be welcome on this forum, whether it is praise or criticism.

We can agree to disagree on this particular product.

carik42

As promised, an update on my situation.

Unfortunately, things are still not working right for me. I feel pretty much like I did during my first post above - disappointed.

Not because I've wasted $98 in all on something that didn't do what it was supposed to do (and there are no refunds), but because it was Pete, the guy that is streets ahead of many marketers.

Like most people here, I've tried all of his products and although you have to get into Pete's train of thought to get the best out of them, they really are cutting edge.

But, I can't help feeling that despite all the talk of this working wonders for the beta testers, this was a rush job. Part of me wants to stay a member so that I can grasp a better understanding of how the system will eventually evolve, but If I'm being perfectly honest, I think present members are paying $97 per month to be the REAL beta testers. That's not how it should be.

Paxton & Karen Newton:

From what I've seen in the BF forum, you guys have always been incredibly helpful to other members. I'm not sure if you were beta testers, or if you are part of the BF team, but every post I've read of yours is either defending Pete and BF, or telling people that it REALLY does work.

The fact is, it hasn't worked for a LOT of people, and as wonderful as Pete is (as stated above), you simply cannot defend a $97 service that doesn't function properly. End of. Please, don't be offended by my comments because that's not my intention, I'm just stating a fact.

So my association with BF will end before the next payment is due. But I will say this...if Pete gets this working as advertised, I'd be more than happy to pay $200, even $300 per month to have this weapon in my affiliate kit.

Have I lost faith in Pete? No. He's one clever dude and you just have to sit up and take notice when he has a WSO on the table. But, if there is a next time, I will definitely wait and let others be the beta testers, and only step in when others say the system is stable.

I'm off to invest in SENuke, sorry guys

Paxton

Carik

Yes, I was (and indeed still am) a beta tester for Brute Force. I'm not part of the development team and have no financial gain from Brute Force other then the money I earn using it.

I don't promote Brute Force in any way - I don't even have an affiliate link for it and my explanation of why I don't have affiliate links was far from complimentary, but had nothing to do with the software itself. I don't base my recommendations on the amount of affiliate income I can make.

Yes, the software has some issues which need sorting. Most of these seem to stem from Vista users. I'm one of those who use mainly XP. The guys at my local PC store think I'm a nutter when I buy new PC's with free Vista installed, tell them to uninstall it and then buy a copy of XP to install.

This isn't just to use Brute Force. I have loads of applications which still have bugs with Vista, so I prefer to use these on XP machines. When all the issues get sorted out, then I'll make the transition to Vista.

I'm not blindly defending Brute Force. I just happen to get good results from using the software and believe it's a very good application, issues and all.

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Barry Walls

I think this is the point. Its good...but its not what he says it is at this moment in time....is it?

Paying $97 to be BETA testers with no refund isn't on. That isn't what people signed up for.

I like Pete a lot and reflect the sentiments of the poster above. Pete is a great marketer...but hes damaged himself here...though I'm sure he'll recover, learn the lessons he needs to learn from this experience and this will go on to perform as advertised.

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carik42

Hi Paxton,

It's funny you know, when BF was in pre-launch and Pete was eager for everyone to promote their affiliate links, something inside told me to hold on. Looking back, I'm damn glad I did because promoting BF at that time would have done my relationship with my IM list no good at all. I know that's not your reason, but can you imagine the damage?

I totally understand your XP/Vista comments. It's true that the majority of BF issues are related to Vista, but NOT ALL issues. I agree that Vista presents a number of issues with various applications, but as Pete has a team of top programmers (his words), he would have no doubt been very aware of the problems in beta, and could, or rather should, have released this to non Vista owners first while his team perfected it for Vista.

I'm no programmer, but if BF was my idea and I was about to release it in such a delicate state, I wouldn't have had the nerve to not offer refunds. Maybe when it's 100% stable, but not when it's still effectively in beta.

I've seen your success posts at BF Paxton and I'm glad it's working for you. If it wasn't for people like you on Pete's forum, there would be more confused people than there already is. Hats off.

Paxton

A lot of good points being made here and I really appreciate the dialogue. It's nice to be able to participate in a forum discussion where wildly differing opinions are being aired and respected. Kudos.

I don't think anybody is here to unjustifiably knock a product or defend a product. It's a forum for opinions and that's what we're getting.

Do I believe Brute Force is a good marketing tool? Yes I do. Totally, but at the same time I can fully understand somebody who's shelled out the best part of $100 being a bit miffed if the application isn't 100% working as it should be.

I feel sure it will be sorted out and then the full potential can be there for all to see, but points taken from previous posters.

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maryjane123

karen;

can you tell us how long after you started working with the BF software did you start making money? i like the trial offer but the $137 a month has me concerned since i might have a few problems getting going. i don't mind paying the monthly fee if i'm making a profit. just want to know the time frame i'd be working with. thanks for your advice.

kind regards.
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JeanetteatBeach

I bought the product one month ago - very complicated and the instructions stink. I put up with it since a "complete rewrite" was being issued. Well, it was and nothing works at all. Spent hours and couldn't even get a new account created on one of the blog services. Keep getting locked and having to exit the program. Tried to get a refund and they don't do refunds even when their system locks up and doesn't work.
Keep away from this unless you just want to throw away your money. Plus when I canceled my forward subscription they removed my access to the forum and other aids immediately , even though I had paid for the month.
The instructions are for the old program. Never get an email when something changes or needs to be updated - just get tons of email telling me to see the product.
It has much promise and No delivery and no service.

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Karen Newton

Hi Maryjane
I must have missed this earlier, looks like you asked this question couple of weeks ago. Brute Force SEO has always worked for me and I rarely run into problems running it, so keeping that in mind:
- BF is a tool (set of tools) to promote your sites
- if your sites aren't capturing targeted traffic that converts, you won't make any money, and it's no fault of BF right?
- how soon you will or will not make money isn't about whether you use BF or find other ways to generate targeted traffic
- with all that said, it's near impossible to take someone else's monthly income and compare to what you can make. Now if I give you my niches and keywords that's another story.
And yes I am going to avoid answering your question directly because whether I make $50 or $5000 a month with using BF means nothing, because it's the combined result of what you choose to market and how well it converts that will determine if you are successful or not. BF is not going to make you successful if you have nothing to use WITH it. Meaning you have to realize what you're paying for - you are paying for automation of tasks that greatly reduce your time (ie time = money) and tasks that are proven over and over again to get sites ranking in the top searches on the major search engines. And even with all that said, you are still getting much more than that with BF membership anyhow - Feeder script, Gold Digger KW tool, DARE ability for articles, Social bookmarking account creation and automated posting, many video walkthroughs, and tons of valuable info inside the forums.



It's unfortunate that you've had bad experience with BF but it's a bit laughable to think that because a software didn't work on your PC that you'll recommend everyone to stay away from it. This is a product review thread not a product bashing thread, so it would be wise to take personal issues and deal with them personally not in the forum.

On the other hand if you want to hire me to run BF for you let me know maybe we can strike something up

Anyhow I'm just psyched to get the DARE ability (yay !) plus SB automation and a new ***** module are coming, gonna go kick some SE (search engine - ie Google!) butt!

Karen

Mark-Dickenson

That doesn't seem like product bashing to me. I would be pretty pis*ed if I just spent $137 and it didn't work whether it had to do with my PC or not and not get issued a refund...that is bad business

It sounds like she did try to resolve matters before posting here as you had suggested but she got no support, hence her review...and if someone doesn't respond to a support ticket like this, they deserve a bad review

Furthermore, the poster above doesn't seem to be alone. I was in the market for BF to see how it stacked up to SE Nuke and after reading all of the reviews on this forum, it seemed that most people had similiar issues

Not trying to pick on you, Karen, but these types of reviews are good for us Warriors who do our research before buying a product...and I am glad the OP gave that review...saved me some money

-Edited after I misread Karen's quote

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JeanetteatBeach

Thank you. As we all know, most "reviews" are affiliates so it is sometimes hard to find decent information on a product before you buy it. Karen, I believe is an affliate since she has several youtube videos supporting the product. That is fine, but her bashing me is just poor taste. I am reporting my experience. She can report hers. I won't bash her - it would be nice if she did the same.

Karen Newton

It's alright I don't feel like I'm getting picked on, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I felt that it was more on the "bashing" side but that's my point of view just an opinion.

Just to clarify when I said "gonna go kick some SE butt!" that meant search engine butt... not SE Nuke

All in all I agree - before spending money on a product or service it is of great value to get feedback from our peers in unbias ways such as forums and chat etc. Just keep in mind that a few people might have replied here with bad experiences, yet hundreds are happily paying and utilizing BF. I'm not trying to push it, there's no aff link here nor am I an active affiliate - I'm just saying.. the logic speaks for itself. So while reviewing a product or service, just be sure to take everything in for what it's worth.

Happy ranking!
Karen

Karen Newton

Where did I bash you? I did not bash you, how unprofessional that would be.

Also, I think I only have ONE video supporting BF and um, it's buried for sure.. I'm not an active affiliate, not because I don't believe in the product but because I have way too many other priorities right now to be an active affiliate for anything. Please do not make assumptions about people.

I kept my response to your opinion light hearted. I used the word laughable at the situation not the person. If you happen to perceive the text incorrectly so be it, because I didn't come here to bash anyone, nor have I ever done so before.

Karen

Mark-Dickenson

Sorry about that...I misread your quote...as a former member of SE nuke, anytime I see SE, it automatically registers in my noggin' as SE Nuke

Anyhow, I edited my post above once I learned I misread your quote

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journeyforself

I use it and like it. It is now compatable with Vista 64bit. Thats what I use.

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HI - Have you made any money with it? I am concerned that the drop out rate looks enormous..would be interested in learning more...please let me know. Thanks, Allen

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extremelyvicious

Hello Everyone

I must say, I really appreciate the participation in this thread, it's participation like this from users for and against the product in question,that help people make an informed buying decision.

I've used (and am currently using) both pieces of software in my online business and both products have there good points and areas that need improvement. But for me, Brute force's linking system coupled with it's rss strategy is incredibly powerful!

I have tested different niches with both pieces of software and have come to my own personal conclusion based on my personal test's that, brute force creates organic campaigns that rank increasingly as one niche entity over time. I have never seen software that has given me the kind of results that I've achieved using bruteforce.

It is most unfortunate that users of the vista operating system are having so many problems, and therefore have yet to enjoy the benefits of this excellent software...but if you cannot get Brute force to work for you SE nuke is always the next best thing.

That's my honest review

Roger

ariefsyu

Never tried it but would like to know any success stories. Long term success stories please not one day success.

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rarebiz

I try the 7 day trial.
Well, actually not much to try.
The system is very unstable. I can create bookmark accounts, but cannot submit. Can't create tripod accounts, etc.
Finally gave up and back to SENuke.
If you success doing it manually, these tools saves your time.
I'd stay away from Brute Force SEO until it's stable. When?

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manjit129

I bought it, but I am still reserving judgement.

ademartin

I paid full fee, $137, to see what the hidden things are that trial members are not allowed to see. Turned out to be a clunky feeder script and a forum section where Peter Drew was hardly ever present.

Karen, the mod, was a great help and also a member called Bill and I am very appreciative of their time and assistance.

From the sales page... "The Incredible SEO Fight Club is without equal in the IM world. Packed to the rafters with top SEO Professionals, Traffic Experts, Niche Research Experts, Copywriters, PPC Gurus etc., as well as your fellow users of the system, many of them expert, this insanely powerful resource is the hidden secret of this sensational package.

With these people in your corner as your "cut men", it's hard to even imagine you not succeeding wildly!"

Look, it just didn't happen.

The software should still be in Beta and no way is it worth $137. It does not do what it says on the tin.

The training manuals and videos are an outdated, unprofessional joke although Karen is doing her best to improve the video situation.

I was so disappointed after working diligently to learn this system I finally called it quits and asked for a refund. After all, it's not working as advertised.

Peter Drew refused me a refund so I complained to Paypal and lodged a dispute. Peter Drew escalated the complaint to Paypal and they said:

"Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User
Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It
does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods
received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a
refund."

So, no protection from Paypal and I feel I have wasted the money on a load of junk.

It is interesting to note that SENuke gives prospective members a free 7 Day trial and then a 30 day refund period after they have paid.

I am halfway through a test of SENuke and will be doing a head to head comparison on them both but so far Brute Force SEO is not even in the starting blocks and a massive disappointment.

Just my 2c which is my personal opinion.

Ade

david-forer

Ade I hope you post back with the results from senuke
I would be curious of the head 2 head

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Ade: If you paid with a credit card through PayPal and not PayPal funds, you still have the chargeback option.

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i just got it today. in the review process
will let you know how I go

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@david-forer Hi David. Just to let you know that I have found SENuke to be excellent. Of course there is a learning curve and a few minor issues but with good training material and owners who are willing to help out personally I am happy enough to upgrade.

@DonDavis Hi Don, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I paid for it using Paypal funds so I can't claim a chargeback. I am sure that Peter Drew will spend my money wisely.

Ade

shafto

I have tried SEnuke, Brute force and bookmarking demon 4..

The only one i still use is BMD

The problem i have is that the automation only ever partially works so you find yourself going back to sites to fix and post things. I stick with bmd, article and directory submitters and the Firefox autofill plugin

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magentawave

You're right John! Big Mikes products are very reasonably priced and I bought a ton of them when you alerted us about his birthday promotion (thank you!). Off topic but do you know if the RSSBot update is available yet?

Thanks
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P.S. I felt badassrss's tactic for NOT telling me until AFTER I ordered their $1.00 trial that my card would be automatically debited for $29.00 was uncool. Upsells are fine, but don't put me in a position where I now have to hassle taking the time to stop a charge that was initiated without my consent.

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I thought the sales page was pretty good.
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Kuma

Fully agree with that.
I´ve been a member of BFSEO for a couple of months now and my mistake was to believe alll those promises and the hype created by Pete.
I have nothing against the guy personally (though I strongly disagree with his attitude at times) but I don´t think BFSEO is worth paying a monthly fee. It is confusing and there is a lack of direction and systematic approach. The GUI ( no "G" deserved) is very basic and there are more exceptions than anything else.
Things are being promised but they either don´t show up (like the Twitter module) or come too late (Social Bookmarking).
I tested SENuke and I found this much better and systematic, more reliable and easier to apply (less exceptions and manual adjustments necessary and time wasted). Sooner or later I´ll subscribe to SENuke.

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Does anyone know the difference between Big Mikes RSS Bot and SENuke?

Steve

Teriss

I am not sure about all this negativity and where it is based -but I have used several of the software pieces and find they work as advertised.

IF all this hulla-balloo is to carp about a lower price-its a package deal-you get all the software in Brute Force. Pete is always adding on more software to make it even more worth your money. Have you tried the Linking Software yet, probably not.

Most of the programs save you time (which is money) at what hourly rate do you charge for your own services $70 -$100.00 per hour -working with clients or doing SEO services for others? Not bad -eh?

If you put half the energy in positive work like getting clients-instead of the negativity herein - I am sure you would make your money 10 times over the cost.

I tried it myself and the software works fine, and if you read the instructions-you have to CANCEL the re-occurring charge in Paypal yourself after you pay the buck. Come on people -reading is fun!

The one thing you do get with Pete-is a guy who is working harder-putting in more software to make you money...he always is adding on to the value...not many -if any IM'kers....do that today.

Omar

That is on my preffered tool shed as well.. I'd love to see some updates though