flnz400

Hey guys, just curious if anyone is having any major success?

I only ask because it's not compatible right now with my V64 machines, and there isn't anything substantial being reported over at the forum (a couple results; mostly low comp.)....

Basically, I have to stay on at 100/mo without any successful runs to wait for the update, so I'd really appreciate any feedback.

I will say, the software seems to have a lot of potential, but most of what I've found is inexperienced users adjusting to the learning curve and all functions are a no go on my trial due to incompatibility.

Thanks for any feedback!

scene4u

I tried it briefly and it seemed to have little effect on my rankings but that may be because I stopped using it.

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nikolaaa

I subscribed for $1 trail but program didn't work.
I sent email to Peter and to his support desk, but he didn't answer.
I canceled subscription and forget that software.

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raydp

I, like so many have wasted too much on his rubbish to ever consider trying it again.

There seems to be a pattern whereby the product launches, the forum starts getting complaints and then gets locked.

There's an interesting post here: I Won't Subscribe to Brute Force SEO | Lost Ball in High Weeds

Not for me.

Ray

raydp

Oops, posted twice for some reason.

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flnz400

Wow, no one with rave reviews?

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Danielle_B

I'm not new to forums in the slightest, but I have to say, it's rather distasteful to see the public bashing of someone who is part of our group here on the WF. Even if the product isn't something you like or works out for you, there's no need to be ugly about it.

/sigh.

Up til' this point, I'd really only seen the good side of the Warriors here.

I guess it was all too good to be true.

Blah.

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SpudDS

Do you want the warrior forum to be a perfect world where everyone says nice things and nothing ever goes wrong?

The OP asked for peoples opinions and people gave them, as far a si could see people were bashing the product and not the person.
If people buy a product and dont like it, i think it gives them a right to comment

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Ricky Parker

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

We must sugarcoat things to not cut in to other people's profits.

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David Reed

Glad to see everyone has given the software such a thorough examination.

After all it is 5 days since it launched.

If Peter hasn't answered any support desk queries then I'm surprised. I got a response within a couple of hours.

Until I have run the program over a few niches I'll reserve judgement and not attack Peter or his software without knowing if it's the real deal.

From what I can see above, not one of the posters has actually tried the software for a reasonable testing period.

To me that is a personal attack on Peter Drew. How can it be a criticism of the software if you haven't actually tested it?

David

SpudDS

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, although Bruteforce hasn't been out very long it is basically all his other software packaged together which people have been using and having problems with for a while.

I am sure Peter is big enough to stand up for himself if he wants to without other people thinking they have to defend him because people don't like his software

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nikolaaa

I didn't test software becase it didn't work.
I would like that I have, but if you sell software for $97 per month you must have support and asnwer on emails.

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SaSeoPete

I am with David on this one. I am testing it too on a few niches and I think it is far too early to tell if it is working or not.

Nick Brighton

I've had two refund from Pete because the stuff doesn't work, or it's too complicated to implement.

I too am sick and tired of people sugar coating other people's stuff just because they sold lots of copies and other people said they were great.

I'm not saying Pete is a con artist or a bad bloke, just that it didn't work for me (none of his stuff lived up to my expectations) and I personally don't think that such techniques, whether automated or not, will be able to stand the test of time.

Why not?

Google is one of the biggest brands the world ever has seen. They built (and continue to build) their brand on complex algorithms that allow the most suitable, rich and authorative content to be displayed higher than the spam/junk.

So, you might shoot to the top of Google for some long tail, useless keyword for a few months, but I can assure you that Google (and other SE's) are wise enough to see past such nonsense.

I don't care whether you disagree either, we'll see who's right in 2 years time.

Nick Brighton

And to quote from I Won't Subscribe to Brute Force SEO | Lost Ball in High Weeds

"I mean, if he did the same thing with a topic that mattered, say “Tour de France”, and for 3 pages all I got was the same basic listing to go to one page, as a web surfer I’d be pretty pissed. No one wants to wade through three pages of listings only to be given the same information at every webpage. It’s stupid. It doesn’t bring value and sooner or later Google will take notice."

Finally, an internet marketer who has got some balls and a brain and isn't afraid to show either of 'em. However, he or she is also very negatively balanced and seems to slate alot of people's products, such as Commission Blueprint which was totally outstanding in my opinion. So, make up your own mind based on the facts, not just one or two opinions! It might work for you, it might not.

Go forth!

P.S

Either way, it's about time we started developing a back bone, people.

batchos

I didn't test ButeForce but I tested BadAss Article Submitter (very vulgar names). I had a failure rate of 8/10.

I also tested Peter's customer service skills. Very sensitive to comments about his product and told me, "No one is having problems with the program."

I immediately cancelled my subscription and delete all emails about BruteForce.

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asianlunatic

Now this is the truth.. SEO guys might not agree, but i will say dont think chasing Google will guarantee your paycheck forever.. once they change their algothrim, you will never be in there if you use fishy methods to get in..

Look beyond Google, and start picking up new ways to marketing things.

Hamida Harland

I signed up for the $1 trial to take a look around the software, but after having a look I cancelled my subscription. To me, it seems to be all about spamming the SE's and that's never a good idea, and I don't think there's any long term benefits to this business model. Whatever happened to 'content is king'?

Nick Brighton

It's alive and kicking. The content sites will totally cane these fly by night methods.

These BS systems are not running business, and as such will not stand a chance in the long haul.

It's like me giving out crappy, sloppy, foot-in-mouth disease ridden burgers outside a McDonald's and expecting everyone to stop in their tracks and kiss my a##e for presenting such an amazing offer before what they were really looking for.

graphicsgenie

Nick,

Stop been a *****

So you don't like Petes stuff, it's not for you.

Don't use it then, no need for the kind of **** you are coming out with.

No arguments, end of, I won't reply again, you have certainly sullied your reputation with me.

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Nick Brighton

I'm not having a go at Pete personally, I'm just telling you the truth about one aspect of internet marketing. I'm not saying Pete's stuff is bad, I am just saying people need to realize the truth about SEO and building a real business.

P.S

I'm sorry if I ruined my reputation with you, but to be honest I don't care if someone wants to call me a "prick" decides to think what they want of me.

It's about time this attitude was dropped and this forum became a place where you could express your opinions without being publicly insulted.

Shame on you, and even more shame if you think that an adult argument involves insulting someone then "running away".

graphicsgenie

Nick,

removed the 'p' word, maybe a little hasty,

But this thread does seem a little harsh towards Pete and his products, I have never personally used any of them so have no opinions on whether they work or not. I also agree that it possibly isnt the best way of running a business.

But I do believe the words and way you said it wasnt right

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Nick Brighton

Ok, maybe I came across a little harsh too. But sometimes it's hard to make a dent whilst pushing soft cheese. It's not an attack a Pete, although I personally don't like his products, I am also saying that his products clearly work for certain people.

It's more of a realization that people need to start being honest about this sort of thing and if something doesn't work, just blooming well say so.

The fact that people are so afraid to speak openly about systems or products just makes our community less honest, less genuine and less worthwhile when you have a sea of people quivering at the thought of speaking the truth (based on their own personal experiences).

So, if you're reading this and wondering about Pete's stuff, here's my recommendation:

GO BUY IT AND TRY IT.

If it works for you, then great. If not, the refund policy is in place and Pete is a good guy and will refund you if you ask for a refund.

Graphics Genie, Let's be friends. I respect you, and I know you respect me (deep down in your heart?) ;-)

alexshelton

Dudes.... Chill!

Sucks that Pete hasnt been able to reply to this thread and you guys don't like his current product, offer him some feedback, that way he can improve and find out exactly what YOU expected from the service when you signed up.

Nick Brighton

Also, if you go back and look at all of my responses to this post, you will see that I consistently refer to "my opinion" and that I "am not attacking Pete personally or directly"...rather I am just making a point about this sealed lips mentality about IM products or services, particularly in this forum.

You don't go to Amazon and see all the buyers give a glowing review, frightened to say what they think about a product (good or bad) do you? No, because they are giving PERSONAL opinions based on their own experiences. But that doesn't stop people buying stuff off Amazon, it just makes the entire community more trustworthy and believable.

P.S

The reason why people are not afraid to slate products on Amazon is because they don't have to worry about others nailing them. They don't have to worry about being a "guru basher" because in the real world, a good product is a good product and a bad one is a bad one.

Just because you've made a hot series of radio shows doesn't make you immune to being publically destroyed when you try TV or even just release your next podcast.

If people just stopped worrying about what other Warriors thought of them and spoke their mind, perhaps they might just get a 25% following of loyal friendships, instead of a 100% following of wishy washy, sat on the fence sheep type of "friendships".

No offence to anyone who took it, just saying stuff that's on my mind.

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Danielle_B

At the risk of having my quote dragged through the mud again, my intention was NOT to say that critiques are not welcome, or that I was defending Pete or his product.

However, I DO believe in the value of constructive criticism and the ability to find a product unsatisfactory for whatever reason w/o being inflammatory.

Considering the wealth of information you ALL bring to the table about the IM world, I would think that offering your reasons for your dissatisfaction and suggestions for areas of improvement might benefit the group and the product producer as a whole.

If that makes me ideological, then so be it. We've been subjected to enough smear campaigns on TV recently in the states; I didn't really want to see it here too.

There are plenty of posts around this forum that aren't supportive of many products or services, and they're able to say so in a diplomatic fashion. You can't discount the fact that people are more willing to take criticism of their work when it's offered in a neutral manner.

That's all I was trying to say and I'm sticking to it.

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flnz400

Um.... lol

Geez guys. I guess I should have done a poll instead (and waited to sit down with a beer)... or a simple

-nah, not up to par

-yeah, love it

would be fine. lol I don't understand the **** storm.

peteinoz

Hey guys

I'll post this message and will not reply further..

Only to say,, I create tools that work very successfully for me and pass them on to other people to use to get the same success as I do..

Im not going to defend myself against those posts above it will only give not needed credance to them

LOTS of people use my tools and make a LOT of money using them as I do..

a good craftsman never blames his tools is all I say

one thing about content.. BF does not create content. content is supplied by user, doesnt get simpler than that.

Google cannot change its algo to harm BF. we use 65 social sites. If they wipe these sites.. we'll use a different 65. we are not that we are nearly big enough to make any impact on the Big G, you guys are complimenting us way to much..

Use it and you will get fantastic results.. I show you how to do it without the software. free.. though the software does it 200 times faster..

Feel free to use it or not..

I will not post any further in this thread.

To Your success with or without BF!!

Cheers

Pete

bill05

Wow!

Some real over the top comments here.
I have known Pete for a few years and he has always been a straight shooter and always been a help to others in any forum. Why he or his products are getting bashed here is "suspect" and unfounded.

The program is designed to use 2.0 sites to create backlinks to a quality content rich site of your choice. Or to opt-in pages with quality products of your choice. Or any other thing that could benefit from backlinks. Backlinks from feeder site, bookmark sites, video sites...

It's the same thing you do manually and Pete's big thinking with his brilliant programmer have figured out some ways to automate the manual labor.

Yeah it's little complex but that's good - is it not?

It is an amazing linking system - if you do not need a linking system that works, then don't use it.

But why slam a decent bloke like Pete in the process?

And with everything else he offers a trial for a measly sum.
And if you could grasp it - this thing is doing some pretty cool stuff.

And YES - it really does work!

IMHO
Bill

Paxton

Anybody care to name one single product that has been universally liked by all ???

I can't think of any, so why should Brute Force or any of Pete's other products be any different ?

Case in point: I'm allergic to penicillin. What is a life saver for millions is a killer for me. Does that make penicillin any less valuable ? No, or course not. Might not be any good from my personal point of view, but just because I can't use it doesn't mean it's no good.

I'm one of those who has seen very satisfactory results from using Brute Force. Given the circumstances prevailing TODAY, it's a valid application for a valid business model.

Sure, a couple of years down the line the search engines might do away with a lot of things. Who knows. Google might decide to do away with PPC for example. Should we stop using PPC because Google MIGHT do away with in a year?

Not shrewd that, not shrewd at all.

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wilson765

Wow! What has Pete done to you guys?

I first came across his badass reports and after the success I had with them simply couldn't wait for it all to be automated and I've not been disappointed

I am sorry that a few seem to have had such a difficult time with it but it has certainly not been my experience.

Please accept there is a learning curve then add a bit of kind patience and it will work for you. If you really can't get on with it then accept that it may just be 'you' and cancel your sub graciously.

But most importantly for all us warriors we need to accept it's a tool, nothing more, tools don't create success the people using them do.

As someone once said - (this is my poor paraphrasing)

"I have a spade lying on my garden and I'm furious it hasn't dug me a hole yet. The salesman said it was the best spade he had, yeah sure I've bought loads of spades, even stuck some of them in the ground, but they all require more effort than I thought, although I've seen one advertised that really will be a lot easier."

Barry Walls

Hi Paxton

A lot of people could use your experience, wisdom and knowledge since Pete seems totally overwhelmed. You might be better posting there than here.

The problem isn't that people don't like it, they cant get it to work. Its obviously working well for you...and as far as I can see, you're the only one whose had significant profit results with it...and yet you're absent from the forum? Might be an idea to post there....thats all I'm saying.

BigJock

$1000 per day from selling articles? NO WAY!

Karen Newton

One Thousand People signed up for the $1 trial - and in the BF forums there *are* posts from people who are having trouble getting it going. Do you know the percentage?? I don't know actual numbers, but I can tell you that it has to be a small percentage because I certainly have NOT been dealing with hundreds (or even one hundred!) different folks having problems.

So let's put things in perspective - a small percentage of people have problems, reply to a thread like this (no offense to the OP actually), and all of a sudden their opinions start to take on some mass consensus? Ridiculous... and the fact is, in THIS thread, you will likely here more negative reviews than positive, because misery loves company, that's just how it goes.

But back to BF... I keep reading references to spam, spamming the search engines, etc. Why does this keep coming up? You can spam the search engines with or WITHOUT some software. Brute Force is not to blame if you decide to create crap content and abuse the methods. Sure it's much easier to blame a software than it is to point the finger at the operator. Crazy!


@Danielle - I completely agree that the way in which people express their opinions (which is all fine and fair) is extremely distasteful here.

@SpudDS - of course it's fair game to post honest reviews of a product, but here at WF, we can at minimum expect some maturity and focus when discussing these things. It's not the fact that negative opinions exist - it's just quite surprising how people go about expressing those opinions. And posts like this are meant to "stand up for" Pete because you think it takes balls to stand up for yourself? That's a ridiculous statement. I post this because I stand behind Peter Drew and his software, purely because his methods and software have helped me tremendously. So of course I will post to try and add balance to the nay-sayers here. This forum is for product reviews so one posting positive comments shouldn't be viewed as anything other than a positive display on the product. Not skewed to be some kiss-ass post to the creator.

Here's my take on the Brute Force software, for what it's worth:

- I can quickly create accounts for social bookmarking, article directories and RSS aggregator sites. Not every site works 100% every time, but many do and I have no complaints since it has saved me boat loads of time

- I can easily submit my RSS feeds to many major RSS feed aggregators, don't have a problem running this, and saves me boat loads of time (I won't even get into the benefits of RSS in this post)

- I can easily submit my articles to several article directories and receive an 80% success rate, and it saves me *boat loads of time*

- I can create sites on Tripod, Geocities, Blogger and Wordpress that all automatically add linking to eachother and my main site. Does this work 100% all of the time? Nope there are glitches, and a lot of them happen when the sites themselves have issues. Do I care? Nope! Because with even 50% of the total Brute Force modules working at 100% capacity, I have gained so many backlinks and my site is now ranking for my major keywords.

- I can easily submit my niche video to all the sites that Heyspread sends to, with my main site url automatically put in the beginning of the video description. So simple.

And that's *just* Brute Force software. By being a member, I also get to use what's called the Feeder script. Which ... hmm how can I put it? Is an essential tool to ranking for my keywords!!

So definitely, read all of these reviews and make an educated decision. But remember that when there are 10 people saying something is not worth it, there are hundreds quietly reaping the benefits behind the scenes.

Karen

Karen Newton

It's ridiculous to assume that Paxton is absent from the BF forum lol. Oh well, see what kind of assumptions are made?

And Big Jock ... as far as you can see, Paxton is the ONLY ONE having significant profit results? With what information are you basing that opinion on, if I may ask? Do you think that perhaps that statement is a little off the wall? Out of 1000 people (plus the beta testers) in BF, have you surveyed each and come to the conclusion that Paxton is the only successful one? If you have, I will pack up my bags now and forever disappear into the sunset.... NOT.

Karen

Paxton

It's true - you can't please all the people all the time.

Seems though we are now at the stage where we can't please anyone, anytime.

Far from being absent from the BF forum, I post anytime I can make a contribution to what's being discussed. Anytime I feel I have something of value to add to what's being discussed, I post.

I've got my own way of doing things and I actually ENJOY testing how stuff works and new ways to get things done. A lot of this I've shared on the BF forum.

Yes, I have enjoyed some success using the software. Am I the only one getting good results ? I sincerely doubt that.

In the run up to the launch I posted many times about how I was re-jigging my sites to take best advantage of the things Brute Force does. I've optimized my websites to squeeze every single last drop I can out of the things BF can do. Stands to reason I should be seeing some benefits from what was a VERY big effort.

I've offered to help people with the APPLICATION of the software. Show them some of the stuff I use and some of the ways I use to get the best possible results.

How that's being absent from the forum ???

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Barry Walls

Hi Karen

What I'm saying isn't meant as a personal slight to anyone so I apologise if Ive caused offence. I dint say success, I said "substantial profit results"

Second..."as far as I can see" means exactly that. Ive read every post and haven't seen a new post from Paxton IN THE TRAIL MEMBERS forum since the launch.

Also, as far as I can see...he IS the only person making a killing. Why? Because no one else has posted to say "Im now making an extra $xxxx/day thanks to BF." Does that mean that no one else is making money? Ofcourse not! Thats Absurd. But it appears that way from the forum. That appearance is being compounded by the many threads of lack of stickiness of the sites.

Paxton is the most visible success story. If might be a great idea to get the beta testers to help out with some of the problems that newer members are having. I spent over 5 hours the other night talking a new member through the software and he was estatic when he reached page one of google. I know this works.

Look....I like Pete...and I'm willing to spend the money to give him a chance to get it right...Im not canceling.

If theres a thread that says "Ive made XXXXX using BF, then I havent seen it. Yes, there are threads saying...."I got ranked well"...but a few of those are followed by "the rankings have dissappeared quickly".

So there are several issues:

• Its buggy and needs to be refined. This is completely understandable with such a complex piece of kit and I expected it. IMO, this is a non issue and the software will be made foolproof over time.
• There are stickiness issues with the sites it creates.
• People are obviously unhappy with the support...but I have ZERO complaints in this area...I have found support to be great.
• Paxton did indeed post a lot in the run up to the launch. I'm talking about post launch participation....its been scant...help us all out.

Paxton, if you feel that you are at the stage where you cant please anyone, anytime...alarm bells should be ringing that all is not well. People arent posting here trying to destroy your work..they have genuine concerns, they want BF to succeed becuase they can see its potential and I think you should listen to them and address their concerns rather than getting defensive.

Bigjock

$1000 per day from selling articles? NO WAY!

graphicsgenie

Why should successful people help new people?

Surely the more successful people wouldn't want the membership full ?

After all helping others having trouble is helping potential competition. Granted, there are some like Andrew [Paxton] and Karen who seem to be going overboard with help (imo) but they are the exceptions. Please note this is a business after all

Darren

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Barry Walls

This is an excellent point.

$1000 per day from selling articles? NO WAY!

Karen Newton

@BigJock , appreciate your detailed response and now have a better understanding on your view of things.

Darren, that's quite a selfish point of view you got there. Which you are entitled to of course. It's great that there are others who don't share your opinion though, or "new people" wouldn't get very far would they?

Competition is going to exist no matter what. But within a membership, such like BF, if those who ARE successful reach out to help others within the membership, then are they not contributing to the creation of a tight knit group of people who can help *eachother* going forward?

Why do I care if the spots in BF fill up, if I already have my spot secured? Surely you realize the competition exists outside of BF just as much as within.

Karen

Paxton

Darren, probably a dumb thing to say, but I really don't have any issues with potential competition. I said all along I would try and give as much help as possible, wherever possible and I intend to stick by that.

I would like nothing better than to see the membership full to the rafters. Believe me.

Yes, it's a business, but I like to keep sight of the human element - not just the numbers.


Bigjock (there's a name you don't want to meet in a dark alley)

I'll try to clear a few things up - to the best of my abilities.

I'm not trying to get defensive, for the simple reason I don't feel I have to defend anything anyhow.

All the participation I've had at the forum was trying to share as much as possible so people could get results from using BF. Not saying that my way is the only way to use the software - not at all. But I know my way works for me and my expectations.

Now, I'm not talking about technical issues here. I'm not a techie and I wouldn't know an .exe from a .dll if they walked though the door and kicked me in the nuts. Me attempting to solve any tech issues would be way off line and in any case, the support team are the best qualified to give support.

From the day the forum was setup though, I've been saying things like "keep your sources fresh, keep you feeds updated, keep you content updated".

I've been saying that results come and go, then stabilize when they mature a bit.

I've been saying how my sites are setup, how I categorize the feeds.

You've probably seen the thread I started where I offered to help people out in using the software. 10 members of this little group initially. That's expanded, and takes up a LOT of my time, but I said I'd do it and I intend to stick by that.

I don't just post on the forum (or any other forum for that matter) just to be seen. When I have a constructive addition to make to the topic under discussion, I'll post.

Yes, my post rate might have dropped a little since launch. That has to do with what's being discussed on the forum and it's mostly stuff of a technical nature - I don't do technical. I don't want to start posting about stuff I'm not sure about.

Hope this help to clarify things a bit

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graphicsgenie

Knew this would happen,

I never said it was MY point of view, i'm just saying it could be a reason why people aren't jumping in to defend Pete and Brute Force. I do believe I was the first (but I have played a part in the marketing of the product, video, graphics and sales page design) so have somewhat of a vested interest.

If you notice in the BF forum, I have been offering my help in various places, just felt that my point needed airing.

Darren

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Karen Newton

Okay Darren.. I might have been a little um.. heated up when I encountered your response. It did come across as your opinion to me, but I'm glad that you've clarified that it isn't necessarily your opinion.

I'm going to back off for a bit because I don't want to start replying haphazardly and causing a ruckus...

Karen

jasonl70

I've been thinking long and hard about getting this... but the 'stickiness' issue was one of the initial questions that ran across my mind.

Now it seems like this was a legit concern??

I have some established sites with some pretty good rankings (#2, #3), and I'd like to bump them up to #1. But I don't want to hit #1 for a few days, then drop back several pages . The other sites I'd like to try this with are new, so it doesn't worry me as much.

So, is this 'stickiness' issue the rule, or the exception?

-Jason

flnz400

As you can see from the direction of this thread (didn't see the mud coming one bit), I don't think this is the place to get your answers that qualify whether or not you should spend 100 bucks/mo. On topic feedback is welcomed of course.

Coach Cheese

I signed up, and here are my reasons. Someone check my thinking here:

1. I WANT to rank for a whole bunch of longer tail keywords, even if for only for awhile, because the small, powerful list it will build in my niche.

This is especially powerful for small businesses in their local marketer, or a specialty niche where the players don't do the SEO game.

2. The sites that are being built are on major 3rd party properties, on which we are encouraged to build by hand, even if using the same content. (I keep hearing from folks who really test this stuff that duplicate content does not hurt, and that unrevised PLR content ranks).

So this software merely automates what we pay outsourcers to do by hand. If Google doesn't like that, they can penalize all the sites with that footprint. I seriously wonder if they will, however, since article marketing is automated, for instance, through services like SubmitYourArticle, and yet all those article directories are not penalized.

If duplicate content really does not rank as high, then the duplicate 3rd party sites will simply not rank as high. No special penalty needed?

3. Will a footprint from this software hurt our main money sites? It seems to me that the 3rd party sites themselves could be penalized, but that the main site will not be hurt. Otherwise someone could use this software to take out their competition.

4. The content quality is determined by the user input. This is not scraped or spam content, as long as it is good stuff. It's the same as blasting out through mass article submission or a press release publishing in multiple venues.

So I plan to test this software to see if it works for my own market. I personally know Melissa Moody, though, and it is working for her. She used to use one of my outsourcers and no longer needs one.

Sarah

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tommyp

I think too many people misunderstand the purpose of tools like this. I'm not saying you necessarily but just in case, for whoever may be mistaken, tools like this just help automate a process that people do by hand.

So asking if it works in the sense of the software functioning and asking if it works in that people are having success making money and getting good rankings are two different things.

You still have to pick the right keywords, the right niche, post content that will keep people's attention so that they click on your links, etc. So that is on the user.

As far as working in getting rankings it does work if you pick the right keywords because it automates what people should be doing manually anyway. It just really speeds up the process.

Finally, as far as functioning, in my case I could not get it to work and have given up. I was disappointed because I had been waiting for it a long time and avoided SEnuke or whatever else because I wanted to be loyal. Unfortunately I had to give up and I've found my alternative that does work.

Some people can't get Brute Force SEO to function and others can and judging from the yay versus nay comments I have seen for a while, sorry Karen, in my experience it is not a small percentage that has problems. It's a lot of people, but maybe I'm wrong.

There are compatibility issues with just about all software. But when it seems to be 50/50 or close, even if it's 60/40 or 70/30 (I really don't know I can only speculate based on comments I've seen from the past year or whatever) then that's a sign the software may not be high quality and is something that should probably be investigated if the creator cares enough to expand his reach and make 150% or more of what he is making now, which he can't do if the software just doesn't work.

Someone can say the problem is on the user's end, and I know there will always be some people with problems no matter what software, but when most can get Article Post Robot to work, SEnuke to work, and many others, which also use Internet Explorer components to post and are of a similar nature but then yours does not work properly or at all for so many people then it's probably your software that's the real problem. The deciding factor is whether the seller cares enough or not or whether he is happy enough and sees no need to focus on those people who have problems regardless of what percentage it is, or not. It's his call and he decides what is better for him.

So, there's no real need to harp on the same thing all the time. If Pete's software doesn't work for you then just don't buy it anymore and forget about it and get an alternative that does like I did or wait and see if they improve it and try again. SEnuke, for example, had issues at first but now it works great for most people, from what I read and the same might be true for Brute Force SEO. If it does work for you then that's great and you have a very valuable tool.

It really doesn't matter too much what software you use that automates these steps as long as it functions and it's especially good if it covers blogs/webpages, social bookmarking, RSS and maybe the top 10 best article sites. If it doesn't do video just go with Heyspread. So just find another if possible.

I like Pete enough. I haven't talked to him a real whole lot but he seems nice enough and once gave me one of his software for free to help me out in a problem with Wordpress and I will probably continue buying his reports, but not any software unless it's something I'd like to try but only on a different computer and that won't be any time soon cause I'm in a bad situation. But I'll still follow Pete because he has some good stuff to say and if I see that his software is more compatible in the future I will begin recommending it again.

So, to end this, if you can get it to function, then of course it will work very well because the process that it automates works.

It's just a buck so find out for yourselves.

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drnet

I had some issues with it and personally decided to cancel. I have been using SE nuke with great success...if it aint broke don't fix it.

They just came out with automatic signups to 65 social sites, video sites, article sites...Ya baby.

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