lynneklos

One more quick question -

When I signed up for Clickbank way back when, I used an ID similar to my name. Would it be better for me to register a new Clickbank account using a better Clickbank ID?

Thanks.

Lynne

busterman

I have been with Affiliate Silver Bullet for the last 2 months. I have managed to aquire 2400 to my list in that time using only safelists. I know how many I have added because gmail emails me every time a new one signs on. My problem is that I have only made about 12 sales in that time. I dont know whether its a product problem or very poor traffic. I t hink that traffic is traffic if they went through the hassle of signing up then there must be enough interest with a little push to make a sale?? Has anyone else experienced poor conversions with this product??? I get over 2000 clicks a day according to clickbank but only about 6 of them make it to the order impression page and then from there 0 on the order form submit page. Then when I sometimes get an order submit it doesn't go through??

ogm

What if I wanted to promote another CB product to my list, aquired through ASB ? Something other then what your bullets or follow up emails are promoting. Something that isn't in your system at all. Would I be able to do it with the hosted option ? Or will it require me hosting my list myself ?

lynneklos

Oh, Busterman - That is quite discouraging.

I just signed up and I was thrilled to read that you achieved 2000 signups to your list, but wow, those conversions must be disappointing.

It seems that you just sort of get a Silver Bullet assigned to you, right?
I got a Forex program to start with. Luckily, I have done Forex trading, but this would be a tough first product if someone didn't even know what it was.

I wish you much luck and maybe we could get some people to post here who are having good success!

busterman

Yes I'am hoping to get some positive feedback to keep me going as I'am fading fast! Oh by the way I have 2621 to my list so far still no more sales. I will keep pushing but this far I'am very disappointed as I have done my part delivering the traffic.

busterman

Oh! I just spoke too soon I got 1 sale 10 minutes ago

WFbuddy

I purchased the "affiliate silver bullet" a couple months ago and I think it is pretty good.

I do like the the versatility you have with the bullets. You can basically download and host each "silver bullet" on your own server and use your autoresponder.

This is good because you are capturing the leads and not passing them on to someone else to manage. You want to KEEP those leads.

As Cindy Mentioned earlier and I agree...

Take one silver bullet and hosting it yourself. Load your own autoresponder with the ready made emails so you are capturing the leads.

I personally modify the emails to my liking and promote the products I want. I then sign up with my test email account and test everything.

Send traffic to this one "bullet" --- It is much easier than trying to send traffic to all 28.

You can leave the others bullets where they are and send the leads you aready have to those links. This keeps the leads in your funnel and you can let the ASB keep sending the emails.

Another option is to host them all yourself and send traffic to whatever bullet best matches the topic discussed.

For example, if you write an article on traffic...send them to the "traffic" bullet. If it's affiliate marketing...send them to the "affiliate marketing" bullet. You can still send the traffic to the other bullets later in the email series.

Let me add that....

I have been working on other projects so I have not done much with the bullets to give any hard conversion numbers...Maybe in the near future.

They might do okay leaving them as is but taking the time to modify the emails could be much better. Just my opinion.

Hope that helps.

Cindy Battye

Woah! Sorry about not responding - I got busy and forgot to
check in here, so let me answer each of you here

Again - hugest apologies!

Ok - here we go!

@ Mario - If you cancel your membership with CBP (or ASB), we will
keep marketing to your leads on your behalf no matter how long you
were with us. After all, you paid for the packages/bullets, you have
done the work - so, we stand by what we say - yes, your leads are
tagged to you FOR LIFE. You can even keep the bullets/packages that
you have already paid for - and keep using them.

The only time this doesn't apply, is if you refund any part of the
program what-so-ever. If you refund, we take it all back, you lose
account access and all lead ownership.

@ Lynne - Hey Lynne Let me try break it down a little for you

1) Download an ASB Bullet (you choose which one)

2) Set it up on your hosting (follow the video training materials)

3) In your autoresponder series for the bullet you are hosting, make
a followup email that asks them to go and sign up at one of the bullets
that we host for you. (We have copy and paste promo tools in each of
the bullet downloads).

This way, you are getting the leads on your list - and you are able to
also monetize he list, by sending them to another great resource - and
getting them on the hosted-by-us list at the same time.

You wont get all of them to do it, but - you will get the action takers,
which are the people that you want most!

And, it's not a problem at all - your clickbank ID is hidden - we just
show your username in the link, so that we can identify your account.
This allows you to switch between clickbank accounts if you choose to
without having to go and change all of your links - you can just edit
it in your profile.

@ Busterman

Wow! Congrats on the 2,400 leads and 12(13) sales! That is fantastic, and the beauty of
this system is that you will continue to get sales from us, because we market continuously
to your leads.

We also go above and beyond to help the products convert. We create bonuses to encourage
your leads to buy from you/us (you get the sale) - this is one that we are promoting
for you this week: The Best Consumer Wealth System Bonus

The thing with ASB and CBP is that they are long-term strategies - and if you are using
free traffic methods to make over a dozen sales - and get 2,400+ people on your list
that will keep making money for you, even if you choose now to walk away from this and
pursue something else - well... I would say that is a couple of months well spent!

As far as conversion rates go etc. These will vary, but when you put people into our
system - you will make money (and not just now, but... for a long time to come)

@ WFBuddy - Thank you for the overview and super kind words I do like the system
that you plan to use, yes - it's going to be much more effective if you can stay focussed
on sending the traffic to one bullet - but keep the others handy if you want something to
be a bit more specifically targeted.

I look forward to hearing how it works out for you!

Phew, ok ... haha, all done! I will try and get back here more often! If you need
anything urgently our support desk is super helpful: SJCSupport.com

Or, you can post it here - and if I take too long - send them a ticket to tell me to
get my forgetful self back here to WF

- Cindy

Terpsichore

Hi,

Sounds like it's a great program. Anyone know if there is a list of what the "silver bullets" are? There are only certain markets that I'm interested in pursuing.

Thanks!

Kat

busterman

I now have over 3200 names collected with the program. The sales are starting to trickle in , no $100-$200 days yet but I did make around $75
yesterday. I think if I keep this up eventuall I could have consistent $100
days. I forgot to mention alot of the products that were sold are recurring
billing so I will continue to be paid month after month until the buyer cancels his/her subscription.

Cindy Battye

Hey Kat

Most of the products in the ASB bullets are promoting
internet marketing products. If you want something a
little more 'nichey', CB Pirate might be better for you

- Cindy

Cindy Battye

That is great to hear By the way - since you have driven that many leads into the system, you should look at hosting the list yourself - using the same traffic generation methods that you are using, but capturing the leads to them yourself - so that if/when you choose to create and release your own product, you can use your list as a platform to launch it

nellco

I just purchased ASB last week, ive been impressed so far. I have a question cindy, it might have already been answered. But i am having the bullets hosted by you, other than the emails notifications, will i have access to see the list once people opt in??

nellco

Also, before i forget, once i recieve all the bullets, and my subscription is done. Will you still host the bullets for me, or will i then have to host them myself??

Jamian

This is good because the big selling points for Affiliate Silver Bullet (ASB) is the video squeeze page, unique pre-sell content pages, and the content-filled follow up emails. The pre-sell page and followup email sales copy should convert more visitors into buyers.

Terpsichore

Hi Cindy,

Sounds great. How do I find out what the 5 CB Pirate products are without buying it then immediately returning it if it doesn't make sense to me?

Kat

niceweb

Well i joined this program and looked pretty good. I did not get up sells so i only start with 1 "bullet" to promote.

Unfortunately the first bullet provided is a terrible product, with 0.16 gravity in clickbank. So i cant really be bothered to promote it.

busterman

I would promote it anyway, as getting the sale should be the second thing you worry about . The real gold is getting the lead first.

Cindy Battye

Hey guys! Let me try answer these

- Nope, if we host and monetize the list for you, you wont be getting direct access to the list.

- If you choose for us to host them - we will host them forever for you No extra fees etc at all.

- You won't know until you create your account. We have over 100 different products in there, yours are allocated at random according to how many are active at the time, so that we don't have thousands of people promoting the same squeezepages.

- As Busterman said - it's not actually about the frontend product. We will keep promoting to them for years to come, so you just need to get them on the list, give them the high quality training series - and then we will do all of the marketing onwards for you.

As a side note, we are getting to work on a huge clickbank release by Jeremy Gislason and Simon Hodgkinson - with bonuses offered when your subscribers buy through your link, so now is a great time to get a whole heap of leads in, so we can pitch Simon and Jeremy's product to them! It really is gonna be huge!

- Cindy

busterman

I now have 3880 leads put into this system, I'am now seeing 1 sale every 2 days . I still am a long way form reaching my target goal of $100/day profit.

niceweb

How many safelists are you paying for?

busterman

I'am using a variety of safelists from viralhosts to targetproblaster , oh yes there is expense involved! I'am hoping that eventually I will be able to cancel out the safelists and this will run on autopilot? We'll see!

mowens17

Do i have to watch the compltete video before I get a buy link? Interested to know the price, I signed up for this when Dustin Struckman owned it so I get it, squeeze page, video, opt-ins, follow up etc.

Cindy Battye

Hey mate, just sending you a PM

tomster

Hi Cindy, and other ASB users...

Cindy, your system looks like somehtign that I need and could find very useful....It covers one big thing in IM...aftersale, followup etc...

It's hard enough for IM people to get quality traffic and then we usually just send it to sales page offer and there is what everything ends, they dont buy, and never come back any more....

With your system this is avoided and we have much more chance to make a profit....

Even tho this looks great and I saw full sales page that explained a lot, I still have few questions

1. You mentioned that you continue to promote offers to list we build for long time....I saw in sales video that you send out 5 emails with ecorse and then another 4 set with 5 followup emails, so totally 25 emails.....is that were it ends or you still continue to promote even after those 25 emails?

2. I know tht we cant access our list if we dont host site on our server...are there any plans to make that list accessible to us, or that is impossible because o technical limitations

3. How often do you update and add new sites to promote? And If some product is no longer in use, do we get another one?

4. What are your plans for future? This looks like great thing and I think you should build on it...I'm sure fellow affiliates would support that idea....

Thank you C, and sorry for all the Q's
Cheers,
Tom

Cindy Battye

Yes, we will keep mailing. What we have done is set up our aweber lists so that when we mail for a clickbank promotion (which we do frequently, like.. at least one solid 2,4 part email campaign a week), we also include you into the mix, so that the same emails, just with your clickbank ID, go out to your list too.

It's not really possible at this stage, I can't speak too much further in the future, but yeah.. right now, it's not in the plans to do that. Since we host them and use some techie programming to allow it all to happen smoothly and easily, to export those would be pretty much impossible for us, since we have over 14,000 different members ID's - and therefore would have to export 14,000 different lists.. sooo not gonna happen.. lol.

The whole point with this is to make it easy... it really is easy if you want to go ahead and host it yourself, you just don't get the benefit of us mailing beyond that initial 25 email series. If you want to host it yourself and collect the list, you can follow along in the videos, nothing is left up to chance, you can follow as we go - it's just about whether you want to trade the expense of having to host all of it yourself, or just let us manage it for you.

We might add some new ones in the future, like... if/when we release our own clickbank products, we might consider doing an extra pack. The main benefit to using this system though, is all about the followup series - yes, the initial product is great, but once you have them on your list, you will get mail outs for our product promotions as we mentioned earlier.

There have been a couple of products that have stopped working, when this happens, we just find a related product and switch it to promote that instead.

We are building our business bit by bit - at this stage we don't have plans to build this particular product further, other than just continuing to add value as I mentioned earlier with the unlimited followup series. Yes, we will have more products coming out soon

Hope that helps and sorry for the delay!! lol - been in NY for Aff Summit and taken a bit to catch up on everything!

Cheers!
Cindy

jaclay20

What results are you getting from these safelists? I've had poor experiences with safelists in the past, perhaps I've bought the wrong ones?

rockfarmer

Cindy, I'm wondering if you provide any assistance to affiliates in driving traffic to their sqz. pages or if each is left to their own creativity in attracting traffic

rockfarmer

I signed up... So far it appears to be a solid program with most of the work being done for the affiliate so that they can focus on delivering traffic to their affiliate "bullet" sqz page...

I'm considering assembling a free affiliate url-rotator where interested affiliates could work together with shared trafic

tsgeric

@ Cindy,
I read one review of Affiliate Silver bullet where the reviewer said that each month the ASB staff chose the top x ClickBank products and and built their bullets around that. If that is the case, is it fair to say that for any individual's 7 month subscription, they get access to the 29 bullets built during that time, but no more, and no fewer?

Also, since these are all clickbank products, they're mostly going to be IM related, right? Any advice for getting this kind of done-for-you product in other niches? I see that people have recommended CB pirate, but it sounds like that is not as developed as this one.

tsgeric

Hi @Cindy, tried to send you a PM but I don't have enough posts.

To get out of the IM rut, I magine people might be interested in broad themes like weight loss, fitness, dating, gardening, etc. I imagine CB makes products for these also.

Does ASB have plans to cover these other topics as well? do you take requests?

Cindy Battye

Hey guys

@ Jaclay20 - part of our traffic training guides people through
how to effectively use safelists. Of course, we would recommend
that you use other sources of traffic too - but this is a super
easy way that anyone can get started with driving traffic - and
we still use safelists ourselves - just because they are effective!

@ rockfarmer - yes, the traffic is up to you, but we do have a
lot of step by step methods for you to follow along with and
get traffic

Thanks for joining up! We were thinking of offering an upgrade
that allows your links to be put in a rotator, but we got busy
with other projects, 'cause it would just take too much time
for us to set up and make sure that it worked out fair and
profitable for everyone. I think a rotator is a great idea.

@ tsgeric - Yes, after your subscription payments are finished, you
will have 29 packages. We have done most of them as internet marketing
niches, so that you can more effectively have a super targeted list.

Sorry you couldn't PM, try again now if you like. We are not adding
any more products/squeezepage systems though - we are monetizing it
by having lots of followup emails, promotions etc for our members,
rather than new squeezepage systems.

- Cindy

MatthewT

Hi Cindy,
Do you guys actually take a look at the products and the salespage you are promoting?

It appears you guys are promoting scams to your list with the likes of Traffic Siphon, Zero Down Traffic, Auto Mass Traffic, etc. Or am I missing something here?

Would be bad if the Affiliate Silver Bullet are also promoting scams like those.

Cheers,
Matt

Cindy Battye

Hi Matt,

We do look at the products, a lot of they time they are hyped up with crazy over the top pitches, but... that is marketing. The actual products themselves do what it says on the box (once you get past all the hype), and... it sells, so that our members make money.

Also, every single product that we promote to the list, is sold on Clickbank, so - if you buy something and get in there, decide that it's not what you expected it to be, then you can request a refund.

- Cindy

MatthewT

Hi Cindy,
Thanks for replying. Guess the problem is the only product descriptions people are going to see "on the box" are those contained in the sales letter. We know for these products, they are not what their sales letter claim to be. Worse some claims in their salesletter are not just over hype but outright lies.

I guess this thread gives a good example
Traffic Siphon -- Any reviews out there?

No doubt these type of salesletter probably generates sales especially from people who are new to them. I am wondering though what is the refund rate? Care to share?

Correct me if I am wrong, I thought a big part of email marketing is to gain the trust of your subscriber. Well, promoting this kind of products is sure to lose their trust fast. Do you track your unsubscription rates? Will be interesting to know what are the numbers just after you promoted these kind of products.

I like the idea of affiliate silver bullet service but the product being promoted lately gives me a huge cause for concern.

Just looking for your honest opinion.

Matthew

Cindy Battye

Hey Matthew,

Yep - I agree with you, and... to be honest, it's been annoying the hell out of me. The last few launches that we have backed have made everyone lots of cash, but have had our fingers hovering over the send button a tiny bit longer than it should.

Last week we sat down and put together a list of criteria that a product needs to meet before we will promote it - our mailing schedules fill up so quick that we are literally turning away an offer to promote every day... so, now we are going through the list, sorry if it pisses people off, but if it doesn't meet the criteria, we aren't going to promote it. With so many product launches, I am sure that we will find something decent to slot in

I think the problem has been that it just got slowly worse and worse, sneaking up on us, until last week we hit breaking point and put together our list.

We love sticking to Clickbank products, because it does give our customers a chance to refund if they think that the product isn't worth their investment - but... unfortunately that isn't really good when people are promoting products expecting to get 50-60% refund rates... going for volume instead of providing value.

Hope that makes sense!

- Cindy

tsgeric

Hi Cindy - appreciate the insight.
One It would be an additional selling point for you guys to explicitly state that you strive to promote products where the marketing is in line with what is delivered - that is, protecting the reputation of the affiliates rather than serving as a pass through for the vendor. Would make your offering stronger in the long run.

Cindy Battye

Well, in most cases it's us putting our names on it - rather than the affiliates (our members), but I agree with you. It's a fine line between selling things that actually convert and make money - and delivering high quality products. Hopefully IM'ers are going to cut with the ****e and bring more good quality to the table that we can be proud to share with the rest of the world Will see what happens over the next 3-6 months, I think it should be interesting!

MatthewT

Hi Cindy,
Glad to see you guys finally putting a stop to promoting these kind of products/salesletter. I guess particularly when we know the sales letter is planted with lies, sending our customers / subscribers to it would really be a disservice to them, if not an outright insult.

In this case whether refund is available is practically irrelevant as we have wasted their time (and to some, insult their intelligence). Worst, if they actually bought the product, go through it just to find out they'd been lied to. And yes, then having to go thru the refund process. How much of their time have we wasted?

I guess if we are looking to build long term business relationship with our customers especially those with recurring income type, we better make sure we provide great service.

Keep up the great service.

Matthew

Cindy Battye

Thank you Matthew

Azlan.MY

Seems like ASB is a great product. Can I use ad swap or giveaway events to promote the ASB squeeze page? Is there any option to modify the emails or something?

elis

wanted to ask if there a way i can start with ASB hosting account and after some time( if i decide to do it) switch to my own hosting with all my subscribers, is it an option or i need to choose from the start the path a want to go.

Cindy Battye

Hey - it is a free report, so yes, definitely - you can!

Yes, you can start with ASB and then switch, but the leads you bring in before you switch, are going to stay in the ASB system.. You will only get to control the new leads.

By the way! I have an announcement! We (Soren/John and I) have sold our share of ASB to Dustin Struckman, the original creator of Affiliate Silver Bullet, so I will pass on details of this thread to him and he can help you now.

It has been a blast - and I am sure I will chat with you on other threads about products that we hold sole ownership of, but for now... as far as ASB is concerned, it is ciao for now!!!

If you need any urgent help for ASB, the new support desk is here:
=> Support Center

Catch ya!
Cindy

P.S. Wanna know what Soren, John and I are up to now? Check out our blog at Internet Marketing Success Formula | Your Step By Step Guide To Making Money Online - stirring up trouble, of course.. lol

mark keeler

Cindy, thanks for all your responses. Will support be as good with you out of the picture? Any other direction you would suggest? A link to what you think is the best alternative to ASB.

Thanks!

thriftgirl62

Is the ASB still alive? Any new news since the old owner is back in town? Just wondering?

sirtiman

Yes, Dustin Struckman can you give the benefits or less about ABS in your hands?

Dianaiad

Good question, since Dustin has just posted a WSO to get it up and going...what's different about it now, if anything?

RoxieThomas

Willie Crawford recommended Dustin's Affiliate Silver Bullet to me. I'm Dr. Mani's JV Broker and we are promoting "Think, Write, Retire" at Think, Write & RETIRE! - Dr.Mani. Dustin has been very professional and has done an excellent job with getting all the information from us to set up an affiliate opt-in page for us with Dr. Mani's information. I am very excited to work with Dustin and his Silver Bullet and look forward to a long and fruitful relationship.