New Information on Kajabi! Anyone know how much Kajabi is going to be?

Sean Fry 14 years ago

There was a link on the kajabi website to get kajabi for 6 months free with the purchase of PLF 3.0.

ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! That one really has me debating on forking out the dough for PLF 3.0.
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darrin_cooper

14 years ago

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Kajabi.....Is....NOT....Wordpress

Therefore, it's not worth it if you already have a business online, have most of your online properties on wordpress, etc. It's a waste to pay a monthly fee. I mean, seriously, how many more monthly fees do people have to pay to actually make profits now adays?

Let's break it down if you want to go big:
Kajabi - $97/month
Dedicated Hosting - $50/month
Infusionsoft - $97/month
Monthly outsourcing - $500/month
Cell phone - $80/month
Your own personal expenses -$500 PLUS per month
Current Base Expense example - $1324

Obviously, you can make the argument of, well you should be able to sell to cover expenses. That's not the point -- the point is, How many MONTHLY service based products do you really need? And is this product for you?

I say if you are starting out, Kajabi is a possibility - but you need to have your action plan 100%. If you are already set up with Wordpress as your platform of choice, i personally would not switch.

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Jason Moffatt

14 years ago

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darrin_cooper

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt

I'm with you on keeping monthly costs down. However, considering how awesome this platform really is and how easily it allows someone like myself (tech retarded) to run my business with relative ease I'd have no problem paying $300 a month.

I too love Wordpress, but at times I'm still confused on how to use it to run membership programs, use wishlists, Amember, setting up databases, etc. It's all too confusing for me and I'm constantly prone to hackers.

I've been using Kajabi for weeks. If you want a legit review, read my signature file.

(And yes, I'm an affiliate and damn glad to promote this product).

Jason,

Have you been "TESTING IT" or "USING IT"? Testing meaning you just have a test site out there, testing for your personal self. Or "USING" it, with an actual live site, with product/service & you are pushing traffic & converting memberships? OR, do you just have some type of Beta going on?

As you said you are "using it", I'm assuming you have a site you'd like to share? Based on your review, I'd rather know what is "MISSING" vs. all the praise. Especially when you state, "you don't need a designer."

I'm sure Kajabi is definitely a new generation of membership platform & will be worthwhile for some people. However, given that my original post you replied to was way back in AUGUST, I haven't studied it since then,

BUT.....

At this point I myself would not recommend promoting it OR buying it, simply given a major issue of the people behind it. Regardless of past products/services from them, there is a MAJOR outstanding issue regarding a video that isn't quite cleared up, in which how customers have been treated, based on statements have been made, & the "GREED IS GOOD" mentality. A lot of trust has been lost. I'm not going to get into the details, but I'm confident YOU yourself may know what I"m talking about.

Other than that, Kajabi is really only good for people who are already established, who can not only pay for the Kajabi monthly fee, but also their email list management fees, any monthly hosting fees. Meaning, when you are comfortable paying additional funds for the potential of better performance, then you are okay. Otherwise, I'd stick to actually learning how to put a membership site together.

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- darrin_cooper 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt
  
  I have been testing and USING it. Currently I have slightly over 800 customers inside and the feedback has been nothing but positive from the customers.
  
  What exactly did you mean about "not needing a designer"?
  One of the things "I personally feel" is necessary is to have a designer.
  But I guess it depends on how things are developed, in which you are held to them, etc.
  
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salegurus

14 years ago

Originally Posted by darrin_cooper

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"Kajabi.....Is....NOT....Wordpress

Therefore, it's not worth it if you already have a business online, have most of your online properties on wordpress, etc. It's a waste to pay a monthly fee. I mean, seriously, how many more monthly fees do people have to pay to actually make profits now adays? "

Very, Very Well Said...
I just checked out the sales vid, it's well done and quite tempting but when i saw that all the "usual suspects" were giving glowing recommendations i clicked the back button.
It may be a great product but i steer clear of anything promoted by the get along gang.

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Sean Fry

14 years ago

Anyone know when they're finally going to open this to the public? I wonder if people who bought PLF 3.0 are even able to use it right now...

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BillyBee 14 years ago

It's opening today, is what I've heard.

Would like to hear more insights from others if they have them.
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  Ken Strong 14 years ago
  
  Maybe we'll reopen this thread after the product actually launches and people have actual reviews to post.
  
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  Michael Taylor 14 years ago
  
  This is the pre-launch phase. Opening day is actually the 14th.
  
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Charles Harper

14 years ago

I wish I had thought of it.

The marketing happened when the product was conceived and created.

Lesson learned...

The promotion will be incidental. They are going to make a boatload of money with this.

Back to the lab.

CT

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hitesh93

14 years ago

Okay, so it has great features (nothing over WP from what I see though...) but do you NEED all these features?
Look, here's online marketing boiled down:
- find a good niche
- set up good content recommending (not promoting) a product in this niche
- get traffic to the content.

There's actually very little you NEED when it comes to this basic stuff. Don't even think about memberships that can boost your business a million%. Set up the business, make some money, find what works for you, and then grow it. Most of the features in these fancy programs end up never being used.

The only thing that could make Kajabi 'worth it' IMO is if it actually processes payments, handles affiliates, and so on. Even for that though there are one-off paid plugins for WP.

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Sean Fry

14 years ago

Good God that is a fantastic video. Andy really is "The BAWSS!"

Would it be overkill to get kajabi solely to launch an ebook?

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ShaneRQR 14 years ago

Originally Posted by snowtiger

Good God that is a fantastic video. Andy really is "The BAWSS!"

Would it be overkill to get kajabi solely to launch an ebook?

Yes and yes.

Video is all sorts of awesome and for one ebook, this is overkill.

The point is that if you're not already building an info-product business, then Kajabi just isn't for you, IMO.

My biggest concern with the system itself is that it probably only does one type of thing. It does exactly that type of landing page that you'v been seeing over and over, lately. It does exactly that kind of member's area, exactly that kind of launch, etc.

I personally don't like the idea of all my marketing stuff looking like everyone else's marketing stuff...

But apart from that, the system looks really awesome.
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Dexx

14 years ago

I think judgement night need to be reserved until the "here's all of what you get" video is released.

But I definitely see the marketing potential, professional look, and ease-of-use a great selling feature...especially when used OUTSIDE the realm of marketing to IM.

Tons of other niches that would be blown away with such a marketing platform to build a community around IMO =P

I'm looking forward to seeing what the final picture looks like...then if it doesn't seem worth the $XX/mo there's always wordpress...but right now, I'm leaning it and watching with anticipation!

~Dexx

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yankforlife41

14 years ago

I think this is gonna change the game. Make people like me who are technology illiterate, be able to look professional and have huge launches. Obviously you still have to be a brand and market well. But it seems like Kajabi makes everything so professional and easy to do.

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Charles Harper

14 years ago

Originally Posted by yankforlife41

I think this is gonna change the game. Make people like me who are technology illiterate, be able to look professional and have huge launches. Obviously you still have to be a brand and market well. But it seems like Kajabi makes everything so professional and easy to do.

Hello Yanks I agree to an extent. The issue is whether or not the products that underlie the system innovate value for the buyer. Otherwise, what you are buying is a really nice shovel. The product assumes that you have something that is life and business changing for the client.

I have posted about this before today and this is another case where it rings true. Gurus make mega bank by 'doing' the information age and selling the industrial age.

When I say selling the industrial age I mean we want the ability not to think and to let a system take care of us in our processes. In other words, we buy done for you solutions that cause us to think and do less. That is not a bad thing. It just is.

I guess we will have to see. It is very nice no doubt. I will be looking at it closely myself as was said by Dexx. Having said that, it is not going to take a crappy product and make it infinitely sale-able.

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ChadH

14 years ago

The deciding factor for me with it will be how much customization we can do to the sales and site templates. I like how it sets up the upsells/downsells/OTO, etc., all the while integrating with Clickbank. I have a few physical products outside the IM niche coming soon, so if it can handle a lot of volume and lead gen (and integrate custom tracking), then I'll test it out, no doubt.

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Greg D

14 years ago

Very interesting video indeed. Really curious how it all works and what is included.
I agree it is not WordPress.

Another thing to consider is this, 97 a month would be perfectly reasonable if you could build unlimited sites on it with all the bells and whistles (maybe not autoresponders, but wouldn't it be nice...)

BUT, what if you are not actually making enough or it is too much. What happens when you need to downgrade and move the sites from their servers to yours, are you gonna be able to access the files or is all lost?

Remember, it will be set up to make it nice and easy, very comfortable and damn near impossible to leave.

For me, right now, the jury is still out right now. I say that because I have a product launch coming up here soon and it may work perfectly, with the secure download areas, membership site community forums...all rolled up into one giant internet marketing golden egg.

We'll see.

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Richard Van

14 years ago

Well it's another launch.. Kajabi.

Thing is I just watched the video and it does look pretty good, especially for those struggling with making big sites, launches etc etc. I think the price may probably be on the high side but all things aside the software looks rather good in my humble opinion.

Not sure I'll buy but I'm interested on what others think of this, including the techie experts amongst us, those better at just marketing and both.

Whadya reckon?

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Dean Jackson 14 years ago

It looks promising... But we all know that high cost production videos make things look way better than they actually are

I don't know yet. This might be good for others who haven't yet launched websites, but it might be painstaking for others who are already established.

And theres always those bugs that need to be worked out when first launching software, so I think I'll wait for a while first.
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- Richard Van 14 years ago
  
  Yeah, I agree Dean. It looks great for those who are less technically minded or starting out etc etc.
  
  It's the no brainer offer he said about that got me thinking it'll be free to try then a monthly charge.
  
  The thing about waiting a while is I can imagine somewhere in the pitch being... "So many people are gonna take this no brainer offer we have to limit it to x buyers to stop the virtual server cloud exploding (!)".....and then Kajabi2.0 will suddenly appear.
  
  So yeah I'll wait and see what the next video says, I'll be interested to have a go on it though, I tend to outsource a lot of the technical stuff so this could be good for me.
  
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BarryOnline

14 years ago

I recived an email about this product this morning but I didn't see a price.

Do you know what the cost of this product will be?

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Barry$

Do you know what the cost of this product will be?

If you ask me, the closest direct competitor to Kajabi is Nanacast, so I'd expect it to be priced accordingly (EDIT: monthly payments starting at $100 and going up from there)... but as a premium service, so probably going up higher than Nanacast does. That said, Kajabi is launching without a few of the big things Nanacast has been doing for years, which is probably going to hurt them; even if they add them later, not having them at launch is going to matter. How much it will matter is the question.

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ShaneRQR

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

If you ask me, the closest direct competitor to Kajabi is Nanacast, so I'd expect it to be priced accordingly (EDIT: monthly payments starting at $100 and going up from there)... but as a premium service, so probably going up higher than Nanacast does. That said, Kajabi is launching without a few of the big things Nanacast has been doing for years, which is probably going to hurt them; even if they add them later, not having them at launch is going to matter. How much it will matter is the question.

I doubt it will hurt them much.

Nanacast isn't doing a hyped-up launch, after all. They could, but they aren't.

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Marty S 14 years ago

Originally Posted by ShaneRQR

I doubt it will hurt them much.

Nanacast isn't doing a hyped-up launch, after all. They could, but they aren't.

Agreed. I think the interface and ease of use is what is going to be selling Kajabi. I had a look at Nanacast months ago and found it... well.. bizarrely confusing. Just look at their sales page video - it has a rather boring presentation that makes you wanna have a snooze. It's like they couldn't even be bothered to create a presentation video. Then you see Andy's video. Just shows you how the 2 companies are approaching this in a radically different way.

Kajabi, will certainly scoop any new prospects (like myself) in need of this service and with the point and click building interface, I feel their retention will be outstanding.
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dipenb 14 years ago

The price could be a very high like 1997$ or monthly subscription 197$ - 997$ per month. Now this is the trend of the new launches of these big guns. either very high prize product or monthly subscription or both combined.
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Eric Graudins

14 years ago

Can't say I'm thrilled at the prospect of a hard core internet marketer managing my internet marketing activities.

(Foxes, henhouses, and all that stuff comes to mind)

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14 years ago

I'm pretty excited to see what it really is and how it works. Amazing video, really

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14 years ago

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