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Old 05-03-2010, 11:13 AM   #1
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Hi Warriors,

I'm about to purchase an article spinning tool and I need some advice w/c is better before I purchase one of them? The Best Spinner or Magic Article Rewriter? And one more thing, for those who have experience using one of the tools, when you spin articles, does it really get accepted by ezine articles and other article directories? Because I'm kinda worried as it might get declined due to duplicate content. What would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness when you spin articles?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
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I use the best spinner. I took that one over all the others I reviewed because you can pick out the best replacement words and don't have to rely on the generic synonyms that some spinners make you use.
Be careful when submitting Ezine... I just read Ledger's caution on that.
Duplicate content - People go either way on the issue. If you own the article and wrote it yourself, then you can spin as little or much as you like. If it is PLR, spin it well and do a few added sentences & sentence rewrites.
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I use the Best Spinner.
I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

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I use the best spinner. I took that one over all the others I reviewed because you can pick out the best replacement words and don't have to rely on the generic synonyms that some spinners make you use.
Be careful when submitting Ezine... I just read Ledger's caution on that.
Duplicate content - People go either way on the issue. If you own the article and wrote it yourself, then you can spin as little or much as you like. If it is PLR, spin it well and do a few added sentences & sentence rewrites.
Thanks for the advice. I've watched the video and I'm getting more interested with The Best Spinner. I noticed the unique percentage on the right top part of the video, what would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness to make sure that it was really spun?
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I use the Best Spinner.
I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

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Nice! I'm really looking forward to explode my article marketing activity. thanks for the advice.
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Hi

I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
I agree to some extend.
Sure original content is the best, but do you have the time to do that?
This is for getting mass backlinks and mass sites, so no time to write unique articles.

For my best pages/sites I outsource that.
I just give them the file with keywords they should use to get the best SEO optimized content.

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ive used both and to be honest nothing compares to manually rewriting however my suggestion would be the best spinner, its simple and very fast.
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Hi

I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
I definitely understand that nothing beats the original. But if you can modify the original article that you made, and you got almost the same quality result, then why not. And also, if people sees that you have lots of articles submitted in an article directory, they will see you as an expert. I saw one guy in ezine articles that has 12,000 plus articles, and I'm sure he's enjoying the backlinks that he have right now, based on the total article views of 15 million+ that I've seen, so you can't say that those are not quality. i know quality beats quantity, but quality and quantity beats quality alone.
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I need to agree with the majority of people here - I purchased the Best Spinner and find it really easy to use.

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I write about 5 or 6 articles per week of about 600 words each. Each of my articles are original and have never been spun or rewritten. Why? Because I have not come across one program yet, that is capable of producing the same quality of prose that a human being can create.
Until I find a quality rewriting program, I'm going to continue with my strategy. Hopefully, quality will compensate for quantity! Sorry I can't be more helpful.
I felt the same way until I took the 7 day trial for the Best Spinner. For a guy who couldn't stand spinners, I'm very pleased with the quality of the articles I'm able to crank out with it. I can easily turn 1 article into 12 or more spun articles that are 34% unique and I can create rewrites that are at least 70% unique. It took me a little time to get used to it, but now it takes me approx. 15-20 minutes per article.

What I've been doing is taking my most-viewed articles from EZA & Articlesbase, rewriting them using the Best Spinner and submitting them to other article directories as well as the Link Racer network for backlinks to the articles on EZA & Articlesbase.
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I use the Best Spinner.
I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

Regards,

Mike

Hey Mike,

How you doin.

I too have Best Spinner but currently I'm spinning to one rewrite only so I haven't used the multiple article spin option.

So, when you say "I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!" what exactly do you do??

Cheers mate,
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Hey Mike,

How you doin.

I too have Best Spinner but currently I'm spinning to one rewrite only so I haven't used the multiple article spin option.

So, when you say "I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!" what exactly do you do??

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Hey Peter,

He has saved his most used synomyns and auto fill's then using TBS!

After you have spun around 10 articles or more and save the synomyns using this function then you will find you get auto unique articles (however make sure you choose the synoymns wisely and check after).

Works better than content boss but you do need to check them quickly after unless you don't care about the readability!

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Hey Peter,

He has saved his most used synomyns and auto fill's then using TBS!
or he's pushed "replace everybody's favourites"
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or he's pushed "replace everybody's favourites"
Yep!

You can use that function too but that generally does produce really bad articles (especially the more unique you get).

The function i was talking about is called 'manage my favourites' and then also 'replace my favourites'. Now granted when you first start using this it won't make much difference but seeing as we all generally keep the same writing style and use the same phrases, expressions and word's over and over when it comes to replacing them for alternatives that still make sense it works a treat

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I do not understand though. Why not just take the article, change a few synonyms, have many paragraphs spread apart from each other (at least 5) and for each spin it changes synonyms and takes 1 unique paragraph and switches it with another and then the software submits it to a directory. Then takes the original article, does the same thing with the next submission except changes the title and moves a different spun paragraph.

Is this not genius? Does this exist and also submit to all the directories in 1 package??????????????????
WHERE DO I FIND THIS
I believe you're looking for JetSubmitter. It incorporates JetSpinner, which {is|was|still might be} free. Just go to Free Article Spinning and Unique Article Submitter - Jetsubmitter (no aff link)

Here, I just checked it out and it's a 30 day free trial w these features:

What You're Getting:
  • Submission to 473+ Article Directories
  • Article Spinning software
  • Automatic Account Creation at Directories
  • Unique Article Variation Submission
  • Post Scheduling and Perday limiting
  • MASSIVE Results From your Efforts


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Hi Warriors,

I'm about to purchase an article spinning tool and I need some advice w/c is better before I purchase one of them? The Best Spinner or Magic Article Rewriter? And one more thing, for those who have experience using one of the tools, when you spin articles, does it really get accepted by ezine articles and other article directories? Because I'm kinda worried as it might get declined due to duplicate content. What would be the ideal percentage of uniqueness when you spin articles?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks.
Can anyone tell me why something FREE, like the following, isn't just as good?

Tutorials / Content Spinner {Synonymizer} / Products / SeoDevGroup

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I think I like magic article rewriter more each day I contemplate on buying it versus the best spinner Especially since it is a one time fee versus yearly fee and I don't feel I need all the extra features.
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I am using the bestspinner too. Love it when it is working well but i hate it when it stucks hanging on me. Ever since the upgrade last month, whenever i tried the replace everyone fav function, the thing just hang on me. Somehow it is even selective on where it wants to hang.

For example article 1 para 1 and 2 would hang whenever i tried doing so but para 3 would work smoothly. Support was ok thou probably get back to you in 3 days thou the problem till date is not solved and i havent heard from him for a week or so.

Other problems would be the replace all and replace with all my fav. it works at times and doesnt at time (probability of not working is higher).

Last but not least the time for it to generate a spun article is slow so i recommend using something else so that you can scan through a few variation for readability fast.

Above are the only few problems i do not like about TBS.

If you are going to do it manually and ignore those function, TBS works great for me.
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Babywarrior,

I once had the issues you were having. Turns out it was my internet connection giving me problems. It's because TBS requires to go online to get the all users fav synonym database to replace the text. Perhaps it was your internet connection?

Anyways, back to topic. I'm for TBS cause of the all users synonym. Everyones favorites all compiled together. You will not get this with any other spinner (for now) and this feature alone is golden.
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Hi,

Thanks for all your feedback. I'm starting to like TBS, just need more time to compare and study the comparison, features and benefits.

Thanks!
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Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

What do you think?
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I bought the best spinner and it works much better than the others that i have purchased.
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TBS, or any other good article spinner, can be useful if what you want is to write a lot of articles and submit them to different directories to generate backlinks. However, if what you want is to use your articles to generate traffic, you don't need an spinner. It is much better if you write the articless yourself (or outsource the task), focusing in good and unique content. Obviously, you will not be able to write 100 articles each week, but you don't need them. Sometimes, few great, unique articles are more effective than a lot of not-so-good, not-so-unique ones.
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Hi ...

I have purchased Magic Article Rewriter together with Magic Article Submitter and must say, that I really like this software set. The thing is that I don't want to pay a monthly / annual fee because all these subscriptions add up very fast.

You can add your own synonyms in MAR as well so I don't see a clear advantage of TBS here.

I usually achieve between 50% and 70% uniqueness investing about 20 minutes for a 600 to 800 word article.

My recommendation - mainly because of its pricing model - is clearly towards MAR.
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Hi,
I am using TBS and it works great, but the software doesnt have any Submitter with it. I am thinking of buying the Magic Article Submitter for my auto-submission but I have concerns.

Does tha MAS take the syntax coded article from TBS plug it in and distribute various versions of the article throught the directories? Is TBS compatible with MAS?

Hope anybody out there can help me... thanks in advance...
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I love questions like these. I use best spinner, and for the past 5 years, I've tried them all. yicky, junky, garbage, OK, well, maybe are my reviews of the other dozen, or so, spinners I've used in the past. best spinner is easy to use and the nice feature which is a also a nice feature of magic article rewriter too to be fair to that software [ a close second choice for me ] is the ability to spin and "save as" in different syntax, for example if you submit to FTS, AMA and other formats than standard curly brackets , pipe syntax. So I do agree with most folks here. I only use best spinner with backlinking strategies and PLR so I can't comment on the methods to try to post good quality content to your money blogs.
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perhaps we should make a thread topic on - spinners best at not getting you banned by google ^^
Or we could just call it how not to be a fool??

If you think spinning your articles get's you banned from google then hire a team of below par article writers to write you garbage articles and chuck them out left right and center!

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You prove a point. I've found some trash/garbage at the DP forums.
I'm still new to this article spinning ensemble and haven't seen any linkbacks from succesful article submissions. I guess it takes time to be indexed as well, or perhaps I did something wrong?
Your kinda crossing into the whole SEO domain now which is complicated business and very confliciting on opinions.

Anyhow spinning mainly help's your article's get accepted into as many article directory's as possible (especially the one's that are manually reviewed)!

You can submit the same article to multiple directory's which many people do still do but the chance of it getting deleted/not accepted in the first place is higher than if you spin an article half decently (not hard with TBS). But the backlink is still created be it the article is an exact copy or be it that it is 10% unique, 50% unique or even 100% unique you still get a backlink!

So yep ping, bookmark and do whatever else you want to those backlinks to get them indexed

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Try the best spinner. Highly popular and reliable. if you are looking for free spinners there are the jetspinner and easyarticlespinner.net , both does the basic and decent spinning.
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I just take a PLR article, push one button and then I get 50% unique!

Then I just take one paragraph and put that above another one and I upload it to article sites. Always get accepted

It is a GREAT product, one you can't live without.

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What button do you push? Everyone's faves? Or replace synonyms?
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Between Magic Article Rewriter and The Best Spinner, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use that does NOT speak perfect English and has slow internet access?

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Between Magic Article Rewriter and The Best Spinner, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use that does NOT speak perfect English and has slow internet access?

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Before you ask which tool is best for non-native speakers, you might want to ask how many have even had success using non-native speakers to do this kind of work. Based on feedback I've heard from numerous people, the tool is irrelevant if they can't tell the difference between various synonyms and idioms -- their choices will appear random, resulting in frequent gibberish to native speakers.

People who are not native speakers of a language have a difficult time with nuances between various synonyms, especially idiomatic uses of them.

There are also national and cultural variations of idioms and some synonyms.

For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

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Yes I totally understand that but I read a couple testimonials on Legers TBS site from people that said English wasn't their first language and they said it worked great for them. So I wonder how that differs with using MAR??

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Before you ask which tool is best for non-native speakers, you might want to ask how many have even had success using non-native speakers to do this kind of work. Based on feedback I've heard from numerous people, the tool is irrelevant if they can't tell the difference between various synonyms and idioms -- their choices will appear random, resulting in frequent gibberish to native speakers.

People who are not native speakers of a language have a difficult time with nuances between various synonyms, especially idiomatic uses of them.

There are also national and cultural variations of idioms and some synonyms.

For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

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Yes I totally understand that but I read a couple testimonials on Legers TBS site from people that said English wasn't their first language and they said it worked great for them. So I wonder how that differs with using MAR??

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I don't think you DO understand.

A blind man would have few difficulties driving a car on the Bonneville salt flats. You want to take his word for it that the car is safe for a blind person to drive in downtown Manhattan or Boston?

The problem is not how easy the tool is to use!

If you cannot distinguish the difference between various synonyms, you might THINK it "worked great", but you really don't know how intelligible your choices are for native speakers.

What you want is not the testimony of a foreign speaker, but the testimony of native English speakers who've read the text created by the foreign speaker.

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Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

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Mass articles. I write about 5k -20k words a day between my freelancing on Elance and building my own sites/blogging at The Average Genius dot Net...

After rewriting/spinning a pack of 160 articles for clients: I'm done typing, so: it all depends on work load.

I love both products, btw, have both products, recommend that if you do a lot of traveling you might want the MAR vs. TBS for the internet connection, but TBS is my fave between the two.

Krulik's a genius, for sure: his products work as they claim.

I didn't read it here, but one thing that I do love about MAR (not sure if TBS has it?) is that MAR allows you to spin articles together, so if you have multiple copies of an article (like for a UAW run), then you can spin/weave them together for the best uniqueness.

The other thing I love about MAR is the Magic Button...gotta have that...for mass submissions to blog networks or directories, I use Magic Submitter and Magic Article Submitter to get the most play out of one article.

More backlinks, more networks to submit to, more pre-sales to my aff products...works very well.

So, in answer to the question if it's "necessary," it all depends on your marketing strategy and workload. For me: oh, yes: indispensable.
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For example, people from India are taught British English, but it's not usually their native language. They struggle with nuances of American English. A friend used to always refer to "foot fingers" rather than "toes" because in his native tongue, that's what they're called. (I never thought to ask him what they call the ones on your hands -- "hand fingers", or just "fingers"?)

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Ah no, no, no I think its yooooou that does not understand. The "problem" (as you refer to it) IS how easy a spinner is to use...and of course how effectively it does a decent job spinning an article. If you have to spend a lot of time cleaning up an article after you spun it then that is NOT an easy to use spinner and I'm not interested in it. I use a good spinner (MAR) to rewrite articles and produce hundreds of variations of those articles and then I spam the beejeesus out of 3rd tier article directories for the backlinks using MAS. So if my VA in the Philippines makes a few mistakes then its not going to be the end of the world. Get it? And that is also why I asked about how easy TBS was to use. I bought it yesterday and will be putting it to the test on Thursday.

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I don't think you DO understand.

A blind man would have few difficulties driving a car on the Bonneville salt flats. You want to take his word for it that the car is safe for a blind person to drive in downtown Manhattan or Boston?

The problem is not how easy the tool is to use!

If you cannot distinguish the difference between various synonyms, you might THINK it "worked great", but you really don't know how intelligible your choices are for native speakers.

What you want is not the testimony of a foreign speaker, but the testimony of native English speakers who've read the text created by the foreign speaker.

-David
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Why do you use Magic Submitter when you already have Magic Article Submitter? Just asking because Alexandr said that MS would not replace MAS but he didn't explain the differences between the two as far as submitting to article directories. It looked like MS submitted to a lot less article directories though.

And since you use both TBS and MAR, which one do you think would be better for a VA in the Philippines to use?

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Mass articles. I write about 5k -20k words a day between my freelancing on Elance and building my own sites/blogging at The Average Genius dot Net...

After rewriting/spinning a pack of 160 articles for clients: I'm done typing, so: it all depends on work load.

I love both products, btw, have both products, recommend that if you do a lot of traveling you might want the MAR vs. TBS for the internet connection, but TBS is my fave between the two.

Krulik's a genius, for sure: his products work as they claim.

I didn't read it here, but one thing that I do love about MAR (not sure if TBS has it?) is that MAR allows you to spin articles together, so if you have multiple copies of an article (like for a UAW run), then you can spin/weave them together for the best uniqueness.

The other thing I love about MAR is the Magic Button...gotta have that...for mass submissions to blog networks or directories, I use Magic Submitter and Magic Article Submitter to get the most play out of one article.

More backlinks, more networks to submit to, more pre-sales to my aff products...works very well.

So, in answer to the question if it's "necessary," it all depends on your marketing strategy and workload. For me: oh, yes: indispensable.
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Guys. I've bought TBS. It is good, but seriously, is it a necessary tool? I mean after you've spinned the article, you will have mistakes (lots of them), so you will have to rewrite some sentences anyway.

Maybe it is better to use your own brain? Maybe you can rewrite sentences on your own (if you are a native speaker, you should not have any problems)? Why do people article spinners in the first place?

What do you think?
IMO you need to work on your spinner syntax. The more you use it the better you become. I now write articles and when I spin them they have almost no errors.

I feel like the tool offers great choices that frees up my mind. I can manipulate articles very fast in this tool.
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IMO you need to work on your spinner syntax. The more you use it the better you become. I now write articles and when I spin them they have almost no errors.

I feel like the tool offers great choices that frees up my mind. I can manipulate articles very fast in this tool.
That's exactly right and the whole point of using a good spinning tool, one human brain can only think of so many variations but if you use TBS which put's 1000's of brains together to think of variations and use the suggestions carefully yourself so they make sense then your article is going to be alot more unique.

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I'm going to have to go with the majority here. I bought The Best Spinner and it is really a wll thought out, easy to use and powerful product. Far too many article spinning services give you something back that looks like a Martian wrote it.

If you work at it, you can also make The Best Spinner produce unintelligible goobledygook, but it's far easier to take your time and produce quality results.

This one is definitely a must have product if you're doing Internet marketing.
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Sorry if I missed, can you use the best spinner syntax with magic submitter?
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It is standard spin syntax, so I don't see why not.
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Yep!

If you need different sort of brackets { ( etc then just simply paste the spun version into notepad and use the find and replace function to change them

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Yup you sure can!

I have both magic spinner and submitter.

When I first got them, I thought they were excellent!

About a month ago, I tried the trial of the Best Spinner, and WOW!

I was totally impressed with how easy it was to spin. Even with their one click option for spinning, you really could get a %30+ unique article that made sense.

Of course you should still read through and make sure that all of it flows properly, but I have to say I'm totally sold on the best spinner!

I still use the magic submitter with my best spinner spun articles...

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Same here. I've got both MAR (Magic Article Rewriter) and TBS. MAR is stille xcellent and good if you aren't anywhere that's got wifi or an Internet connection.
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Hi,

To all who have been using MAR, does this tool can really spin 1 article to 1,000 unique versions? Is that a one-click button to 1,000 articles? or do you have to re-spin it again and again to achieve the 1,000 articles?

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yes you can, but you will still need to check them for readability.
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yes you can, but you will still need to check them for readability.
Is that a one-click button to 1,000 articles? or do you have to re-spin it again and again to produce the 1,000 articles?
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I use ArticleBot, but does the BestSpinner also distribute to article directories and if so to how many and does it have an auto-registration tool with Captcha pop-up?
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Two clicks actually: apply magic > mass rewrite.
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