Which Coach Should I Choose?

by Techguy 33 replies
I'm one of the newbies that lack direction and focus. Yes, I'm also suffering from information overload and that next big thing. I'm also often discouraged by the poor results of some who have been at this for many years. I mean $2 a day from an adsense site. Is that really worth the effort. Let's see $2 x 100 sites, maybe. Is that the best I can do? That's where I get caught up.

I don't mine putting in work for something I'm sure will pay off, but if it's more work than my day job for less money, how much sense does that make?

I want to build a real business. My niche is computers services and software. From everything I've learn in IM, this niche is just too competitive. To hear that is discouraging also.

I have a feeling that someone on this forum knows how to break into competitive niches with either new traffic strategies or very creative marketing and sales funnels. However, being a newbie, that's not me. My guess is this is why a lot of people fail, chosing a niche that's too competitive.

So, I feel I need a coach who can look at my niche and how I plan to serve it and give me some advice, strategies, and direction. I don't mind, in fact, I plan on selling affiliate products as well as computer related services. Just not sure how I can compete in such a competive market. I have some ideas but I can't help the feeling that I'm going about it the wrong way.

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  • Profile picture of the author piratejoe84
    I have not tried the WSO that you linked to so I can not say with any authority whether it is a good one or not.

    I will tell you that the coach I have been using has done a great job for me and about 155 other people that I know of. He will probably not tell you that your niche is too competitive, he will just show you ways to compete profitably.

    If you are interested in finding out more about him, just PM me. I will be happy to tell you more information.

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      Originally Posted by piratejoe84 View Post

      I have not tried the WSO that you linked to so I can not say with any authority whether it is a good one or not.

      I will tell you that the coach I have been using has done a great job for me and about 155 other people that I know of. He will probably not tell you that your niche is too competitive, he will just show you ways to compete profitably.

      If you are interested in finding out more about him, just PM me. I will be happy to tell you more information.

      Joe
      Joe,

      Thanks for your reply. I would love to know who your coach is, however, I don't have enough post to pm you but if you feel it's necessary to use pm's, please pm me with the information.

      Thanks Again, Techguy
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  • Profile picture of the author Negotiator74
    From your original post it doesn't seem like you are interested in anything that you aren't "sure will pay off." Don't know anything about this coaching program but I do know this....there is NOTHING that is "sure" to pay off. That is why we are entrepreneurs....we take risk, we take chances....sometimes those pay off...and sometimes they don't.
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      Originally Posted by Negotiator74 View Post

      From your original post it doesn't seem like you are interested in anything that you aren't "sure will pay off." Don't know anything about this coaching program but I do know this....there is NOTHING that is "sure" to pay off. That is why we are entrepreneurs....we take risk, we take chances....sometimes those pay off...and sometimes they don't.
      I understand what you are saying. I guess when I said "sure" I really meant "confident". When a person really needs something to work in a specific timeframe, and they have far too many choices, then they need to be "confident" that the choice they make is the right one, or they are unable to move forward.

      This is also the reason I failed at daytrading, because I couldn't afford to lose (take risk).

      But this time around my chances of success are much better, I think. At least this time I'm getting proper training (even if it is too much training). This is something I did not do with trading. I had no training at all. Just used my instincts. That worked fine until I put money on the line, then the fear of lose clouded my instints.

      I really envy Stephen Pierce in that when he started trading, he didn't have any money to risk, to he learned totally free of fear. He probably felt bad about that at the time, but it's the reason it made his first million.

      Funny how some things work isn't it.

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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    It's hard to make money online without taking risks. However, if you don't have money, bet your time. Create an action plan using free traffic only and take action, implement it. Maybe some campaigns won't be profitable and you will end up losing your time (maybe it's not waste of time, since you gain experience, but...), but if you find a winner it will pay for the other campaigns.

    Just don't buy 1,000s of ebooks, WSOs and memberships, because this is not the way to go. First, make your choice. Let's say that you're going to work with article marketing (just an example). Then buy a good course about AM (if you still don't have one) and stick at it until you make some money. Chances are that it won't happen in 2, 3 or even 15 days, but don't give up and keep focused on your plan, improve your campaigns, make changes, but don't simply quit and forget them. It may take a little time, but you will make some money.


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    Mohammad is correct. Forums have lot's of useful information about many topics, but the information is not organized in a way newbies can easily understand it. So I can't see how buying a good course could hurt. The problem is that people buy tons of courses, ebooks and IM stuff and don't take action. Techguy, probably you already have a good course, so you don't need to buy another one, just use what you already have.


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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    I'll say this, don't spend too much money. I spent money on a coach over a year ago that was way, way too much money to spend for a coach and it did not end up working out. Really, be careful and choose wisely.

    I have no problem with people selling to newbies their coaching programs or courses as long as they are selling a GOOD PRODUCT. That is the key with IM products. It must be good. You must truly be giving a good method or coaching system for people to make money. I will not suggest any to you, but please choose very carefully. Do not be too desperate. Take your time to choose. If you're too desperate you could end up buying a bad coaching course that will waste your time and money.

    Finally, if you are going to spend money for coaching make sure and follow through on it. Don't just spend money on a coaching program and then not act on what you've learned. That's a surefire way to get a double whammy. You'll be out $10-$2000 and and you will have wasted your time not putting in to action what you learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishboo
    Hey TechGuy,

    First I want to say I understand your frustration.

    Second, I want to point something out to you...

    AdSense sites or anything like them are not actually a BUSINESS MODEL.

    AdSense is a REVENUE STREAM... and it simply SUCKS as a business (no matter what other people's number are -- there's truth to what those people say -- but there is also more they absolutely don't tell you -- and I know because I know two of those people personally).

    Thirdly, a market that is "too competitive" means you have to break into using one specific method. This is a method I have used successfully for a very long time now, and that "method" is relationships.

    Talk to some people. I know this from experience as I come from the "Magic Tricks" hobbyist marketplace. It comes down to talking to people and telling them what you do. I personally know people like Gene Anderson (and whom I live 30 seconds away from) in that market (he's known as the Godfather of Newspaper Magic if you ever want to look him up), who is good friends with Master Magician Lance Burton (you know, from the TV specials), who is good friends with Chris Angel, and the list goes on.

    While Gene and I don't promote each others products or lectures or anything of that nature, we talk about each other whenever the opportunity presents itself, and we promote through those relationships by getting to know other people because of them, and in the end, we get customers who buy from us both again and again, and it's just one big cycle.

    This works no differently on the Internet. Truth is, you're in a good forum to begin doing this right now. I call it marketing through association. By associating with those who you think are "bigger" than you, you will most definitely begin to find people who can point you in the direction you want to go. In doing all of this, I have met a lot of people who have no doubt helped me in some say, both directly and indirectly with my magic career (both performing live on stage, doing street magic, walk around magic, and creating and selling my own DVDs teach other magicians some really cool stuff -- and please don't ask where you can find those because like many of us selling magic DVDs I most definitely don't use my real name and I won't be telling you the "stage name" in a forum like this).

    I even know Art Dore (the guy who started the "Tough Man" fighting contest a while back -- yes, he got in trouble for that, but he's loaded and owns half a city nearby me -- literally -- as well as stuff in Vegas).

    The way you do this is by congregating where everyone else in that market congregates and participating their discussions at hand. Kind of like this forum for marketers :-)

    I hope this helps, and if you are looking for an honest coach who really cares, I highly recommend Terry Dean at http://www.mymarketingcoach.com
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
      Originally Posted by ishboo View Post


      AdSense sites or anything like them are not actually a BUSINESS MODEL.

      AdSense is a REVENUE STREAM... and it simply SUCKS as a business (no matter what other people's number are -- there's truth to what those people say -- but there is also more they absolutely don't tell you -- and I know because I know two of those people personally).
      Completely false. Wow, you know 2 people. That's awesome. 6 billion+ on Earth, but you know 2, so your word has to be the final one, right? LOL

      People crack me up. They really do.

      Adsense can be a business. It all depends on what you do in your business with Adsense. It can also just be an income stream. That too depends on what you do... not anything inherent in Adsense itself.

      But hey, this guy knows 2 people and I'm just one person.
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