Rapid Income Creator

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Anyone familiar with John Carter's Rapid Income Creator?
I just read the sales page and I am looking for some input.
Thanks
#product reviews #creator #income #rapid
  • Profile picture of the author julie004
    I'm wondering the same. I can't figure it out for sure but have a few thought's.

    I was a bit annoyed with all the pop ups upon exiting. I noticed you can get a better

    deal tough if you want to buy. I'm looking forward to comments as well.

    Sorry I can't help, first I heard of it this afternoon.
    • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
      Yaaaaaawn I just about fell asleep looking at the video and I like how he kept saying "Im not going to bore you" while waiting on him to say what it's about.
  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyB
    I purchased PPV today and got through the whole thing in about an hour. He supplies you with information on 5 different Clickbank products that are said to be the bestsellers. The information he provides is then used for a PPV campaign. All you have to do is copy the keywords and urls and adjust how much you want to spend each day as well the amount you want to pay per visitor. You simply enter in your clickbank id and they provide a unique link with your affiliate id to lead to a preselling page for the product.

    When I bought this I didn't realize it was about PPV and not sure I really want to go that route. He says that you have to spend money to make money but I'm not convinced I want to go down that route right now.

    He does make it sound like it is so easy but having never dealt with PPV before I'm not convinced that the average person is going to be raking in the money this way. Also if everyone in the program is promoting the same 5 products and has the same list of keywords and urls to use in the campaign, won't it get saturated and make the price per visitor go up?

    I may try this for a week or so to see if I can make some sales or not.
    • Profile picture of the author Graphix Guru
      Originally Posted by TiffanyB View Post

      Also if everyone in the program is promoting the same 5 products and has the same list of keywords and urls to use in the campaign, won't it get saturated and make the price per visitor go up?
      In short... yes it will. You hit the nail right on the head, Tiffany!

      This is not the first recent product to tell us how many fortunes we can make with PPV. Rapid Mass Traffic is another one; there's a long thread on that product if you're interested in this area and what people thought of RMT. Overall, reviews are mixed. But to be fair to RMT (perhaps even "overly" fair), not many of them come from people who have actually used the product. I have and I wasn't impressed. But I digress...

      Speaking for myself, I've tried PPV several times (RMT and other programs) and never made a dime. Call me pig-headed. I dunno. Call me stupid! IMHO, it's very hard to make direct linking to Clickbank and CPA offers work. I believe PPV may be better for list building and long-term selling.

      The main PPV network people tend to start with is Lead Impact (formerly Zango). In theory, there's a lot of traffic to be had there.

      The problem (in my experience) is:

      A) It's "incentivized" traffic. People agree to have ads pop up in their browser in exchange for free stuph. I would imagine that, after a fairly short period of time, they simply learn to ignore these ads the way I ignore Google paid ads. I stopped "seeing" them for the most part years ago. I just click right past them.

      B) It's cheap traffic. Really cheap. And that would be great if it were good traffic. But as I've described in "A" above, I'm not sure it's good. Think about it. These are people who are willing to have ads pop up because they're too cheap to buy inexpensive stuph like games and wallpapers. What does that tell you? Are those same people really going to buy your Clickbank product? And even if they DO buy it, aren't you in danger of chargebacks?

      The demographics on Lead Impact are good. However, my results have not been. Now, this is just one man's results, and I will admit I haven't tried list building yet. But this Rapid Income Creator is all about direct linking. Direct linking to the exact same pages 50 or a 100 or more others will also be direct linking to!

      Bad idea!

      I can tell you that with that many people all going after the exact same keywords and URLs (you can bid on URLs, too), it's going to be a log jam* in no time on the approval end. Costs will go through the roof. And then, on the back end, nobody is going to make any money because the market will be too diluted.

      And that's assuming direct linking works – which in my experience it does not!

      I don't know if this product is good or not. It may be great for all I know. But I think the concept behind it is a bad one.

      And to be utterly cynical (how did that happen?)... If the five niches they're giving you with RIC are so freakin' great... why would they want to share them? Couldn't they make A LOT more money long term by not sharing them? I mean, they could OWN the entire market on LE, keep the prices low, and make fortune after fortune!

      Hmmmmm....

      Anyway, that's my two cents. I hope it helps.

      -- Mann


      P.S.: Is it just me... or is Clickbank becoming synonymous with crapola?


      * When RMT came out, there was a HUGE influx of people onto LE, which meant that approvals that normally took 24-48 hours were taking – I kid you not – a week! I expect the same thing to happen here, though maybe not to the same degree.
  • Profile picture of the author forexscambuster
    i was about to buy.. thanks for the review guys..
  • Profile picture of the author Dico
    Thank you very much for all your reviews. After pop ups I realized you can get a discount and then if you keep selecting cancel there is a page that explains in more details about the product; it is about CPA and PPV. I'll pass this for now...
    • Profile picture of the author Graphix Guru
      Originally Posted by Dico View Post

      After pop ups...
      By my count is was 5 back sells... or was it 6? 2 downsells for RIC and then some other offers.

      The upsell/downsell/sidesell/backsell thing is getting COMPLETELY out of control. And as others have pointed out before...

      Do you really want to be the guy who finds out he could have got the product for a deep discount if he'd tried to leave instead of just bought? You find out exactly how much the product is really worth and realize you overpaid (or got "taken," depending on your viewpoint). This doesn't exactly create good feelings towards the product marketer, does it?
  • Profile picture of the author ACarpentieri
    Thanks so much for asking this question! I was tempted to try it because of the "it's so easy" marketing stuff being told to me, and I'm glad I read this thread. Now I'm definitely NOT interested, so thanks!
  • Profile picture of the author Multi-millions
    It's sad to see how people are already giving their negative 2 cents and they didn't even buy the program..LOL..My opion so far on RIC (since i actually purchased the program) is not that bad, especially if your a newbie. So far i made my money back in two days. Now let's see how much i can generate in the next couple of months..I will keep you guys posted, if your still interested.

    FYI,
    I heard they are upgrading the program for everyone. They are tracking more campaigns in high traffic low competition niches..

    More money for me! LOL


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  • Profile picture of the author kos818
    Hi,

    I also could resist to buy it before reading the reviews here. One short note to their exit popups. I tried it 2 or 3 times and ended everytime with different price tags ;-) Once it was going from 49US$ on the mainpage up to 79US$ (but I made 2 times 10US$ in discounts ;-)).
    Edit: Ok ok, this where upsells for other products as mentioned above ;-) I got 2 of them the first time and 7! the last time I gave it a try...

    The second time the price tag was 59US$ and then, what really impressed me, I was forwarded to the payment page with the click of a button (no, not the buy it now button, but the cancel button!).

    Nice ;-) Have learned something for my future projects, haha.
    Have a great day,
    Sven
    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      @kos818, hi there, as I said above in post #12

      all well and good, but if you are not getting the list then what is the point.

      I don't want to sound too pessimistic but what is the point of paying $200 for PPV to receive an average of 10 sales(and more often less) giving you 50% of profits = breakeven?

      With 10 sales you have your money back but RIC (not you) has the list and that is where the "possible recurring" profits are made.

      your opinion would interst me
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    Hello everybody, I also bought the RIC thinking that if it's not worth I will request for a refund, only that for the program to work I had to sign-up at LeadImpact (I was very curious and excited as I heard a lot of good things about PPV), another $200, I made the payment I setup the already preamade campaigns. I waited for the keywords to be approved and made the mistake to select the option "Make my Bid the highest", I was lucky that I limited the budget to $30 per day, so the prices started to go up as a lot of people was getting in the program, already for one click you had to pay almost $0.4. If I run the same campaign in the Google Adwords I am sure I would pay less and of course with better results, but in my case I spent $60 with no conversions.
    So to conclude the Rapid Income Creator is just an other scam that will make you loose money. Now I still have $130 in my Lead Impact, does anybody know if I can get them back, or at least can somebody give me an advice what to do with the account?
    • Profile picture of the author fahad308
      This program was good in a way that i learned a few good things about Adnetworking, PPV etc. and i would still give this program a couple of more days to work.
      You can deactivate your campaigns on leadimpact and you can get your remaining money back.
    • Profile picture of the author TiffanyB
      Originally Posted by costi View Post

      Hello everybody, I also bought the RIC thinking that if it's not worth I will request for a refund, only that for the program to work I had to sign-up at LeadImpact (I was very curious and excited as I heard a lot of good things about PPV), another $200, I made the payment I setup the already preamade campaigns. I waited for the keywords to be approved and made the mistake to select the option "Make my Bid the highest", I was lucky that I limited the budget to $30 per day, so the prices started to go up as a lot of people was getting in the program, already for one click you had to pay almost $0.4. If I run the same campaign in the Google Adwords I am sure I would pay less and of course with better results, but in my case I spent $60 with no conversions.
      So to conclude the Rapid Income Creator is just an other scam that will make you loose money. Now I still have $130 in my Lead Impact, does anybody know if I can get them back, or at least can somebody give me an advice what to do with the account?
      Yep, the more people buy this program and use the same exact keywords for the campaign the higher the PPV amount is going to go.

      I'm guessing that you can succeed with PPV but I think building your own list is the way to go. Think about it. If you send people to a page where they can get a free 7 page ebook don't you think you are going to get a lot more people signing up for your list for the free ebook rather than straight out buying a product. Then once you have them on your list, you can use email marketing to persuade them to buy the product. In opinion, this is a much smarter way to go.
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    fahad308 is there any option, or I have to write them an email?
  • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
    Hi costi,

    yes you can get your money back without a problem.
    Just go into your leadimpact "account" and press the "cancel account" link in the bottom-right grey box, your balance will automatically be refunded.

    I have done this a few times without problems. you'll receive an email notification that the payment will be there within 3-5 business days.

    Btw, in my post #12, I mentioned a problem about leadimpact booking too much from my account ...they admitted their mistake and redeposited the money the day.
  • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
    @fahad308,

    don't forget, ppv success is only dependent upon who is sitting in front of that advertisment at the time, if 100 of those viewers were interested, they would have signed up or bought and vice versa. Its a lotto game - if I don't like football, then I'll ignore the game!
    Sometimes you can have great sucess with only keywords and sometimes with URLs as with ppc, there is never a garanty that people will click on the ads.
    This is why tracking is so important, 9 out of 10 ads might not convert but number 10 might bring you thousands.
    By using ad tracking, you sort out the ones that don't work and concentrate on enhancing the good ones.
    So keep your budget small for each campaign and find the ads that convert.
    • Profile picture of the author fahad308
      @tigerwar

      So if i am getting 2000 hits in 2 todays even though no one is interested in buying that item, but still it's kind a good result. may be tomorrow ppl buy it, who knows? How can i use ad tracking? I am sorry i am new to this.
  • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
    @fahad308,

    Hope I'm not confusing you when talking about "ad tracking".

    with PPV your "ads" are the different squeeze or landing pages, these can be tracked with an external php script or separate software.
    Then you have the Keyword and URL trackers within e.g LeadImpact where you can see which Keywords or URLs are converting. You find those results in your Reports within your account.
    Don't forget, the list is important and we are actually talking about whether RIC is worthwhile or not and seeing that RIC is geting YOUR list of sigh-ups, then you are throwing money out of the window.
    Its better to make your own Squeezepage with an opt-in form and redirect them to sales page, because even if that person doesn't buy the product, you will be able to inform them about other products that may interrest them.

    RIC is ""stealing"" your subscribers that YOU are paying enormous amount of money for. hope "stealing" wasn't too harsh
    • Profile picture of the author fahad308
      My brother has a website and he gets more than 1000 visitors everyday. If i use those 5 URLs or campaigns that RIC gave me, on my brother's website, will it work? Does it make sense?
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    Today they launched two new prebuilt campaigns and they also added tracking, but I still think the program will not work, the price is going up very fast in leadimpact, because a lot of people is doing the same thing,, he should launch maybe 20 campaign and distribute it equally to the subscribers so everybody will get a chance.
    And something else, I don't see any optin in the premade squeeze pages so he is not stealing anything!
    Anyway is someone making money with this?
    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by costi View Post

      Today they launched two new prebuilt campaigns and they also added tracking, but I still think the program will not work, the price is going up very fast in leadimpact, because a lot of people is doing the same thing,, he should launch maybe 20 campaign and distribute it equally to the subscribers so everybody will get a chance.
      And something else, I don't see any optin in the premade squeeze pages so he is not stealing anything!
      Anyway is someone making money with this?
      When I said "stealing" i mean't:

      On exiting and or sometimes changing pages, RIC do try to offer something to entice people to enter their email with opt-ins, which is absolutely o.k apart from the fact, that if people don't buy the product then RIC will have the email list and you go empty handed.


      The whole system is a farce when you think about it. You are paying advertising networks so that RIC can get your list and YOU LOSE!!!

      Many people will signup without buying the product straight away, that means:

      RIC get the future customers, you paid for them and possibly didn't even make a Sale!!!

      simply construct a squeeze page yourself and redirect them directly to the CB salespage!

      This program was designed for NEWBIES because they don't realise that they are being Ripped-off!!!

      I can only hope RIC sees this forum and starts changing their way of thinking, if they do they'll make good money because good news spreads like wildfire and that is what any business needs.
      They have to work in favour of their customers or they'll simply end up as one those many scam marketers.
      If they added a possibility for their customers to get the lists and train the newbies, it would be a great product.
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    I didn't watch any video, I realized I loose to much time watching these sale videos, so I just read the mail from one affiliate and I bought the service!
    After you buy the product there are some upsells, that just drove me crazy I just wanted to see the product that I bought. After I got rid of them there is a tutorial where you can see what you will find and how to use the RIC. Basicly they provide you with 5 campaigns (starting today with another 2) that you have to promote by a PPV network and they recommend Lead Impact, even though in the resources box you can find tons of other PPV, CPC networks where you can register and do the same thing, I don't know if somebody did this. Anyway since it is targeted to noobs, I think everybody is following the instructions.
  • Profile picture of the author green_agent
    That's it, i even convinced myself the first time i read the sales page. Good thing i bumped in to this thread that totally opened my eyes. Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author Multi-millions
    Costi, I saw that (2 new campaigns) and they're also tracking for keywords
  • Profile picture of the author Multi-millions
    tigerwar, so your saying the RIC has a lot of potential to be a great product? just making sure i made the right investment on it..thanks
    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by Multi-millions View Post

      tigerwar, so your saying the RIC has a lot of potential to be a great product? just making sure i made the right investment on it..thanks
      If you asked me to take you from A to C but I told you to get out at B, would you appreciate that, would you recommend me to others as a great service?

      RIC is leaving you at B.

      If RIC took you to C then they would not only have a fantastic potential but I would personally even accept to pay them a commision of my sales, this way everybody wins.
      Try to understand; RIC started a great idea but they didn't round it off.
      Any product that is not rounded off (not enabling you to make future profits) is Scam. It means a quick profit for them whilst you die slowly, drenched in advertising bills, still believing in their system but getting nowhere very fast.
      The problem. is that they appear not to be that farsighted at the moment and are leaving you in the middle of nowhere whilst you continue to pay them indirectly through giving them your opt-ins (your future follow up income) and you (not necessarily you, but their customers) still know absolutely nothing about building your own affiliate business.

      If there's one thing you MUST have to truly make it, it's a growing list of prospects.

      Just like the body needs oxygen to survive, a web business needs a growing list of email leads.

      NEVER look at affiliate Marketing as game - It is a SERIOUS business and you MUST invest the right way.

      There is No Such Thing as a Money Mouse - 3 clicks to a millionair
  • Profile picture of the author CACruiser
    Thank's to all in the WF for saving a lot of people their hard earned dollars. It's amazing how these sales videos/pages "suck in" so many people. Do some research FIRST--then spend your hard earned cash--the offer will still be there!
    • Profile picture of the author TraderG
      Am I ever glad I checked here prior to purchasing! I definitely don't need another PPV or banner promoting program to get involved with, much less be asking for refund. Thanks for all of the input you guys have made.
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    I see now by the mails that I am receiving from RIC, that the program is improving by keyword tracking new landing pages, advice to everybody to bid low, but I would really love to hear some feedback from somebody that is willing to try the new techniques they are teaching, because I already lost about $60 on Lead Impact and I don't know if it's worth to try some other campaigns. I don't know why they didn't start the program from the beginning with all these info, I think it would have changed my impression on the program completely, now I really don't trust any of the tips any more, because I've been there I tried also to bid low but without any keyword tracking, the money just evaporated without any sales.
    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by costi View Post

      I see now by the mails that I am receiving from RIC, that the program is improving by keyword tracking new landing pages, advice to everybody to bid low, but I would really love to hear some feedback from somebody that is willing to try the new techniques they are teaching, because I already lost about $60 on Lead Impact and I don't know if it's worth to try some other campaigns. I don't know why they didn't start the program from the beginning with all these info, I think it would have changed my impression on the program completely, now I really don't trust any of the tips any more, because I've been there I tried also to bid low but without any keyword tracking, the money just evaporated without any sales.

      Costi, these aren't new techniques, SORRY but you are the newbie, I really do not want to hurt you but either you are not reading this post or you're blinded by the light!

      YOU will ONLY LOSE with this system, try it with maths, $200.00 advertising - 1 sale(if you are lucky)=$180 minus.

      $200.00 advertising - 10 sales(lol)=break even.

      I am honestly doing my best to help you!
  • Profile picture of the author costi
    @tigerwar I think you're right, I was just reading that PPV is a great opportunity to make money but not with clickbank products maybe only with CPA
    • Profile picture of the author tigerwar
      Originally Posted by costi View Post

      @tigerwar I think you're right, I was just reading that PPV is a great opportunity to make money but not with clickbank products maybe only with CPA
      Hi costi, thanks that you didn't take that in a bad way!

      PPV is not necessarily the wrong way to advertise, but the product has to be a KILLER.
      There are many top products out there but the money is really made with Pre-launch sales (by the so called "gurus") - a product that is not actual.
      The affiliates come together as a Joint venture - that means everyone that is on their lists will be sent an email about "This Fantastic up-coming New Product".
      So JV 1 has 5000 people on his list, JV 2 has 10,000 on his list etc etc. and they all advertise for this product and WOW "it must be GREAT" you think!
      Basically when JV 1 then produces a new product he will be able to offer it to 15000 people instead of 5000.
      So, think about this happening with 30 JV partners!!
      Do they pay $200.00 for advertising?
      No they are sharing their lists and making a quick profit, one hand washes the other.
      You will never make money overnight by buying such products, so think FUTURE and build your own website, use the tools that you'll find in this forum and build your business slowly and with thought. Throw those "overnight Millionair" thoughts away and work hard to build your own Business.
      Believe me, it is easier than you think, but you MUST do some homework

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