rogerlodge

Which automated webinar service do you think is the best and why?

http://www.stealthseminar.com/

WebinarAGoGo.com

CDN | Content Delivery Network: Pay Per View, Streaming Media, more

Webinar Selling Machine | Automate Your Webinar

Live Webinar Replay

Any thoughts???

Roger

rogerlodge

Wow, no one at the warrior forum uses any of these automated webinar systems?

Roger

Geoff1

Roger,

Of course I like ours so I will not bother voting.... Have you seen this page though: http://www.stealthseminar.com/compare-us/

Geoff

Izesta

Roger, I am quite interested in automated webinars. It just makes too much sense. I started looking into the options a few months back.

Stealth Seminar lacks sufficient info and details on the site. There is so much setup work involved with this, I need to feel that I can rely on that backend script host and most don't leave me feeling warm and cozy.

With CDN, I needed more info to decide, but on their site it said, "Now you can get Webinar Selling Machine (software and training system) for only $247.00 July SALE $227.00 (single webinar license). Multiple webinar license details are on the check out page." It's not clear if this is a monthly fee, annual fee, one-time fee. . . . And I needed to know more about "multiple" webinars and I don't want to go through the checkout process to find out. That makes no sense. They should provide a chart like so many other sites and show the differences. When I tried to call, I got voicemail - of course. Left 2 messages and never got a return call. So, they are out. No support on the front means no support on the back end.

I have sat in on automated webinars for the Webinar a GoGo system and I know a guy who uses it. Seems like it could be a winner.

Brunson's system may be okay, but again there is little detail and few specs - just a sales page. I guess I have to sign up for the trial at $4.95 just to find out the nitty gritty. To me, that means I am paying $4.95 for the specs.

I'm not sure if hosting the webinars on their servers is a good idea. Probably better to use Amazon S3. Brunson mentions about possible bandwidth issues because webinars are hosted on their servers.

Thing is, it's mostly a matter of a script and for anyone planning to do it in a big way, might as well get your own script and cut out that cost and possible server problems.

I'm pretty sure Ryan Deiss has a script for this, but don't know if it's available to anyone.

Anyhow, as I work on my piece, I will continue looking into the automation side.

MichaelHiles

I just don't "get" the whole automated webinar thing.

On the outset it looks and sounds pretty useful as a service - but then when you start thinking through it, really what's the point of having a separate service to do what you can essentially do as a video that requires registration to access in a protected members area?

The timed delivery maybe to make it look like it's a real webinar? Seems expensive for just that ability - and you could probably figure out a way to even spoof that too.

What am I missing here?

kevinhdavis

Hi Michael,

The theory behind doing the automated wbinar versus a video with registration is it is more event-based. It adds some percieved scarcity because it will be on this date and this time, and then afterwards you also have a replay only available at a scheduled time, then finally they fall into the last chance to download the video.

It creates a more solid commitment with the user to show up at a specific time to get the content. They are more apt to take action then someone that simply opted-in to view a video.

The other benefit is to prerecord a webinar and play it through the automated system, instead of trying to do it live where more problems could happen. Webinars are much more tricky than teleseminars. More things available to go wrong.

Kevin

Bayo

I believe its the ease of use for people who know their subject matter but who are not technically adept and don't want to have to go through learning a new system

I run webinars and I can see the benefits of being able to schedule webinars to run when you are otherwise unavailable...and I don't particularly like to get involved in tech stuff and would prefer not to have to pay someone to do it each time I need to get one setup either.

So I guess it is relative convenience.


Bayo

Izesta

I have no idea how great it is or isn't, but I came across a webinar replay service that gives a totally FREE trial so you can see if you like it before buying. They don't even ask for a credit card for the trial.

It's www.webinarmax.com

Try it and see what you think. I signed up for a trial just now and seems okay so far, but I have yet to finish getting something uploaded for a full test.

Ditto on kevinhdavis' comment. Cuz when someone has a regular ol' video for me to watch, I can watch today or next year. But when it's a scheduled meeting/webinar, I have to set some time aside to watch it when they are showing it. That means the presenter gets their sales message out to me TODAY and not next month or possibly never. Marketers know all of us are in a "that can wait" mode.

Anonymous Affiliate

You may want to check out our offer too: Evergreen Business System

Trucker

Dear Guys,

Jboss & Raptivity provides a easy source to try out a series of webinars available at their portal sites.

Where Jboss uses Enterprise Apps Platform Environment to build a series of Webinar Interface, Raptivity presents high quality webinars for learning purposes.

Adding to this, the quality do matters when it comes to streaming of live learning occurs & training sessions are been taken.

Bayo

I would be interested in knowing how it stacks up against similar products - I am fully aware that there are feature and price difference.

Will review your product

Bayo

GCWilliams

I tested out the Automated Webinar Script from Cheap Internet Tools, so here's a little feedback.

Firstly, it's a great idea to have the webinar populated with names. It really gives it a "event" feel. The thing that does not work though, is most of the names seem fake! Some of them are just random letters positioned together, and that really gives it away.

But that feature would be tremendously valuable if it worked smoothly.

Secondly, the webinar seems to start within a few seconds when someone enters into the room. To me this also removes the "live" feeling.

In my experience, the webinar needs to begin at the specified starting time. And if someone arrives late, they miss what they've missed. It shouldn't start from the start if they arrive 15 minutes late. They should start watching 15 minutes in.

Also, when someone clicks on the screen of the webinar, it pauses. This is also something that gives away that it's not a live webinar.

If these things could be fixed, this would be a tremendous script.

And as an aside, I'm not trying to bag this script here. I'm trying to give good, positive feedback on ways to improve it.

From what I've seen Cheap Internet Tools make incredible products and sell them at VERY reasonable prices.

I've seen big marketers use them, Ryan Deiss for example. And I plan to get more of the products in the future. The Launch Template for example, looks wonderful.

So right now, this Automated Webinar Script won't work for me. But I believe the company has the talent to turn this into a brilliant tool with a few small changes.

Just my 2 cents!

Off to continue my search for a great webinar replay solution!

blkfin

Greetings

What happens if an attendee comes in a the middle of the webinar, will they see the entire webinar or will they enter at the point of time theroretically elapsed?

Thanks

Jim

PPC-Coach

Good question Jim, I"m wondering the same thing.

Anonymous Affiliate

GOOD NEWS and thanks for the feedback: we've studied all your points and we're fixed them all up. You should give our script a whole new look because it's been TOTALLY revamped: Automated Webinar Script | Cheap Internet Marketing Tools

Anonymous Affiliate

If the attendee arrives late, the video will NOT play from the beginning. In fact, the video will play from some point midway through the video in order to ensure the "live" feeling of the event remains intact

Xmas

I use my own webinar script and embed it into my webpage.

You have to have a really good product for me to pay a recurring monthly fee

Alan Petersen

Good gravy a script to trick people into thinking the video they're watching is a live webinar. Now I'll be wondering during the next webinar I attend.

Anonymous Affiliate

As long as the content is good, there's nothing wrong in broadcasting a webinar that was recorded in the past. Fresh new attendees will still find it valuable won't they?

tdotbaby

Has anyone tested www.strongwebinar.com

rr1455

Where is there a review all the software that does auto webinars???
Also what is the cost of each and good and bad points of each???
If one was to do a powerpoint and send it via email, what would the difference be???

Thx...
Roger

ronr

I've used several. There are many good ones but stealthwebinar.com is my favorite.

Ron

Geoff1

Ron,

Thanks much for the compliments on our system. I appreciate it.

Geoff

cganz

I'm trying to access the automated script url but it seems that they are no longer selling the script. Anyone have any information about this script and where to go to try it out?

Also, to me the most difficult part of any webinar is getting traffic and then getting them to show up. Any suggestions or tricks?

Thanks

imlogic

I just looked at Mike Filsaime AUtomated webinar generator.

The concept and strategy is sound however these scripts are rubbish... I say rubbish if they rely on self host auto responders like Mike Filsaimes script.

Your follow up emails will never make it through the filters... might as well call it a night.

I dont know about the scripts mentioned above but Filsaimes script uses self hosted autoresponder (you host on your own server or his server). Delivery rates will be abysmal.

It may be fine in the beggining but you'll see it drop drastically.

You need to use a service like aweber but you cant because these scripts create custom URL's, they track who stays, and who leaves when, etc... this essentially is the whole value of the scripts but they are rendered useless because it relies on self hosted autoresponder.

rubbish I say.

magentawave

They aren't selling it from the Cheap Internet Marketing Tools site anymore because its now being sold by Mike Filsaime and was renamed as EBS (Evergreen Business Systems). There was a big launch that just closed yesterday and it sold for a lot more than the AWG2 at $497.00.

Steve

magentawave

Does anyone know where I can find a side-by-side comparison between Cheap Internet Marketing Tools 'Automated Webinar Generator 1' and there much more powerful 'Automated Webinar Generator 2' (which is now Mike Filsaimes EBS - Evergreen Business Systems)?

Thanks
Steve

Chris Thompson

The Evergreen Business System script is pretty solid. I'm not sure why anyone would claim delivery rates will be poor. It's not spam and there are opt-out links in every message.

UPDATE: I've been using the script for a while now in my niche business and it's awesome. It has paid for itself multiple times over just by sending my leads list to the webinar signup page. I spent a lot of time planning my first webinar.

I also posted an automated webinar tutorial here.

Mary Greene

Thanks, Chris. What a great review! I would love to give you the affiliate sale, but I've already bought the product through a WSO.

Regional Warrior

If you are a War Room member you can get I think if the offer is still there 500 seat free membership, from all accounts it is a very good system and works well , you get to make the video on your computer of your webinar first so there are no ums and ars etc etc and then put the finished product up on there server then just pick the days you wish to run it.

Hope this helps

Jason

Anonymous Affiliate

Thank you Chris, glad you enjoyed the Evergreen Business System software

LoveLinguist

Chris, I'm going to quote you and some of your tutorial in my new book on Webinars. "The Webinar Way" Thanks!

bhaynet1

Hi Anonymous Affiliate -

This is Barbara - I bought your Automated Webinar product last year but cannot access it.

I sent you an email but have not heard back from you.

Please PM me ASAP.

Thanks!

convergent

Hi,

Does anyone tried the Easy Webinar Plugin for WP ?

hustlinsmoke

I have the plugin and it has alot of flaws and throws me alot of errors in Wordpress, After installing and testing it, I gave up. You just must have a media server to properly run your own script. If you run many webinars I do not know of a hosting provider that would let you stay with them on the bandwidth that they use up.

This is what all the scripts and memberships are not cheap, takes alot of resources to run these. I am in the process though of finding me someone to build me a script then will put it on a media server and go from there.

Charles Harper

I am testing

fb Webinars - -

I have yet to set one up though.

Charles

caseyzeman

Hey Hustlinsmoke. Do you have the newest version. We changed the platform around to a saas based model. Yes the pages are still hosted on your site, but you should use Amazon S3 for your video hosting. We are thinking to open up the full Hosted version from our end-meaning pages, video hosting, live hosting as well and move that from wordpress. At the moment though, our customer service guys, (as hard as wordpress is to make work awesome) are super on top of getting your site to work with our software. If there are permissions that need setting or you need to update, we are on top of it.

Video hosting is the biggest thing, and we offer that as well. Either you can use Amazon S3 (your own account) or sign up with us to come through our hosting platform.

mtgmantx

The Evergreen system is bar for the best one hands down. Also, from what I can see, it is the only system that is not monthly. You can also host the automated webinars on your own server. What I like most is not having another monthly fee. Again, hands down the best option if you are serious about using automated webinars to market.

magentawave

Has Evergreen been bullet-proof reliable for you? Do you use their servers or your own?

warriormatt12

Evergreen Business System and StealthSeminar seem to be the two best.

EBS appeals to me as there is not another monthly fee, yet I wonder how they can offer the free hosting in this model? What's the catch?

Can anyone speak to this?

Anonymous Affiliate

There is no catch. You can host the webinar pages for free as it hardly takes any bandwidth load on our servers. As far as the webinar video itself, I recommend you to host it in Amazon S3 because it costs peanuts and it's 100% reliable.

warriormatt12

I see, so there is no video hosting. Makes perfect sense now. Not a problem, I was just thinking this didn't add up.

Any support for hosting on YouTube unlisted with Leadplayer? That's how I am doing all of my videos, and at the moment nothing can touch that offering. How does the video intergration work? Doesn't seem to be covered on the sales page.

I took the time to really dig in and I am very impressed with EBS.

Geoff1

Hey,

These are biggest benefits that clients tell me when comparing EBS and StealthSeminar:

1. StealthSeminar actually streams. EBS does not stream so if someone goes away, changes computer, visits fb and comes back, ebs goes back in time and starts at a fixed point each time - revealing it is a video. We stream. So if someone is gone for 10 minutes, when they come back the presentation is 10 minutes in the future. We are an actual webinar service, EBS is more of a video player with the buttons removed.

2.*** We work flawlessly on iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch. EBS does not. You can see the comparison here to EBS:
*** NOTE: These devices are approx 20% of the traffic online now so to not get this right, is massively costly for most people. Those users also on average spend 20% more than computers online ( http://s3.amazonaws.com/stream777/bl...nfographic.jpg).

3. We have quality support times, you can see the average ticket response time on the front of stealthseminar up in the top right.

4. We set up your events for you, free.

5. We guarantee your events will run.

I'm not saying we are right for everyone, but we work hard and try to do the best job possible. In fact, we had another update today.

Are we more money? Yep. If expense is more important then ROI, go EBS.

Best regards,

Geoff
Co-Founder of StealthSeminar.com

Anonymous Affiliate

/sigh...

There is a reason as of why EBS has outsold Stealth Seminar and has indeed become the world's best selling automated webinar platform BY FAR, serving thousands upon thousands of customers all over the globe... That wouldn't have happened if EBS was just a "video player with the buttons removed"...

But I won't get into a battle with Geoff in this thread on which platform is best. That's just not my style.

Instead, I will simply let our paying customers share their experience with EBS: Evergreen Business System | Case Studies .

warriormatt12

I am going through both of your products very carefully and evaluating. EBS seems to have a much more professional presentation and sales process. I like how I can install it on my end. But it does come down to what it can do for your business.

I am not opposed to monthly fees if the ROI justifies it.

I have gathered that you are both in a heated war with each other and it is unfortunate as it makes the work of a customer that much harder when doing due diligence. Take the high road and avoid the mudslinging and many will appreciate you for it.

I have competitors in my niche, but I never call them out and always work harder and out market them.

That being said, Geoff does raise a good point. Mobile device and responsiveness is very important.

Anonymous Affiliate - can you comment on the mobile device issue? I am not too concerned about small screen phones, but iPads, iPad minis, Android and Nexus7 or note devices are important to serve.

warriormatt12

It just occurred to me to try it out myself. I don't have an iPad, but I do have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 Tablet with the latest Android Jelly Bean with Google Chrome for the Browser.

Here is a video of the result, I apologize it might go out of focus a couple of times I took it quickly with my HD camera on my phone and not my usual DSLR setup.


The pages are fully responsive it seems so no issues there. It also does not display as a video as shown in Geoff's iPad example. The video player controls are hidden.

Issues:

1) The countdown started over each time I clicked on the e-mail link for the webinar. It was scheduled for 3:47 pm but at 3:50 pm it kept counting down from 30 seconds. I entered a few times and the experience started over each time.

2) At the end of the 30 seconds, I get a page cannot be displayed. The redirection did not work.

3) I have to press play twice once the webinar shows up as the video did not auto start. It hung up in "connecting to webinar." Again it started from the beginning, not 3 minutes in.

Hope to get some insight on this. Disappointing as the rest of the product has so much polish and potential.

I am posting this for discussion and a response from EBS about this functionality and not to bash in any way. I am currently trying to objectively review these two solutions and hopefully this helps others in the same process.

nomadic1

Anonymous Affiliate, can you please respond to this? This is a major issue as I don't think I have any sites or client sites that are not in the 20% range in GA for mobile devices so this would be a significant issue IMO especially when everything else seems so polished.

This is the only thing holding me back from buying EBS today. Is there a changelog or roadmap for EBS? Would be nice to know if there are plans for future dev, hopefully responsive design or fix for the above video issue, and whats coming up especially when I plan to pay the added monthly video hosting costs.

Surprised to not see you defend this after posting 7 times in a rather short thread.

Thanks!

magentawave

warriormatt12 - Did you send the link of your Youtube video to EBS's support? If so, what did they say?

Does anyone know how EBS is working on iPads and iPhones?

B2BMarketing

My thoughts:
I use Stealth Seminar, Gotomeeting and gotowebinar, infusionsoft for crm.
I find what is missing is one package, one place to do it all. If Stealth Seminar had built in goto meeting and gotowebinar, that would be huge! Like wise, if gotowebinar had on demand webinars, that would work as well. We need an all in one product. One place to login. No need to have amazon hosting here, youtube there, live presentation over hear...