1nternetMarketer

SENuke FTW! SENuke is less buggy plus the web20 sites it builds pages on are great. For BF, it creates pages on Geocities and just a handful of others.

Also, you can't get yourself off of Pete Drew's mailing list once you're on it because he doesn't include an Unsubcribe link! Is that even legal? Since he's in Australia, maybe Spam laws are different

He shouldn't make people email him personally to unsubcribe. Unsubscribing from someone's list should be as easy as possible.

hbsjcd3

Just continue to send him requests to unsubscribe. Or Remove. He has been very busy with some new additions to Brute Force lately, so maybe that why he has not responded.

Nathan Hangen

I have SENuke too, and although I like the product, I am still not convinced that it can actually increase sales. I've also submitted a help desk ticket that has not been responded to.

jjcali

How does SENuke and BruteForce SEO compare to SEOmoz's PRO membership?

MaryT

Senuke is great and these guys provide fantastc support

BruteForce, first pissed off Peter customers by sending misguiding email about a 1$ offer that was just a way to join the affiliate program

and when released was more a way to lose time than to earn , doesn't justify the price

overhyped as didn't deliver the promise for me and i really tried to make it work

If you put a week-end to learn all the things you can do with Senuke, you have a great leverage.

Mary

shorwood

SEnuke is meant to automate the tasks that you already do, therefore saving you time and allowing you to get more done in the same amount of time. It is not the software's job to increase sales, that is up to you. It is all about how you use the software. If you aren't doing the process right, then your sales will not increase.

I will admit that their help desk has been a little bit slow to respond lately from what I have heard. There are a lot of people saying they submitted tickets and have not received responses immediately. When I sent in a ticket it took a few days for them to respond.

Shawn

Joe Russell

Hey guys, just wanted to respond to the help desk issue.

Because of our recent price increase we have an unusally high amount of support tickets being placed through our help desk. We always try to answer all tickets sent through our help desk within 24 to 48 hours.

If you need support or have questions please submit the ticket through our help desk for a faster response. We do not ignore emails its just that we do not check those email accounts as often as we check the support desk.

There is also the issue with members not receiving our replies. We currently have two support issues that have been repeatedly answered but yet those who submitted the tickets are not receiving our replies and keep submitting support tickets.

If all else fails you can PM me here but I cant guarantee a turnaround time because I do not login to the WF everyday.

Thanks
Joe Russell

KentuckyJeff

Thanks for some great reviews. This one was a no-brainer, just signed up for SEnuke!

hbsjcd3

Be patient with it too. Both SENuke and Bruteforce, require a short "learning curve" to master....so be prepared for crappy results in the beginning, until you develop your own style on how it works for you.

good luck

Igor

Hi everyone.

The Senuke program is great. Now you can even create a blogs.

KentuckyJeff

Thanks for the good advice. I'm seeing that it's a very 'robust' program, to say the least. We're still getting acquainted.

DonDavis

I have found that I can get a quicker response by posting in the forum as opposed to filling out a help desk ticket.

Kang

I'm using Brute Force SEO and stumbled upon this thread as I was
looking for information on comparisons.

Seems like an overwhelming majority here votes for SENuke; I had
a horrible time during the first 2 months of BFS as well but it's
working fine for me now.

I am considering switching to SENuke (as it's cheaper) or getting
both, and am curious about folks who have experience with using
both; as in, using both for the same sites.

Do you get good results?

nigelkdx200

I used Brute Force SEO for a few months however I wasn't very impressed with it. There were too many bugs and the modules took much longer to deliver than were promised.

I haven't used SENuke at all so I can't comment about it. However automated software tends to leave a footprint so I prefer to do it the natural way using tried and tested techniques from Google Traffic.

hbsjcd3

I would say both are complimentary right now, the only 2 sites that overlap is Blogger and WP.com..... as far as site construction on those 2 sites, there is no difference in the softwares. I used to think SEnuke was better than BF, but now I would say it is a dead heat between both of them.

BF has pretty much cleaned up its software code and is now clean, and virtually 100% bug-free as is SE Nuke.

SE Nuke provides some neat tools such as the a tool that provides the probability of dominating a keyword phrase niche, before you embark on the web2.0 building campaign, and BF has an awesome keyword research tool called Golddigger, that is the best I have seen....it is such a time saver when doing keyword research....I am addicted to it!

As far as speed of submission and construction of the web of sites, they are both "currently" even. The only thing that may make SENUKe a tad bit better, is that SEnuke has its own Video directory submission module, that submits to mostly "do-follow" video directories, whereby, BF relies on a third party submission service ( Heyspread) that has mostly all "no follow", which to me, are worthless. I use SEnuke's video submission module for all my video directory submissions, including my BF campaigns.

Also, SENuke's social bookmarking submission, you can "spin" the title and descriptions, wereas, BF's social bookmarking submission does not have that feature, at least not yet.

So, in summary, neither service really competes "head to head" with each other, instead the are very complementary in everything they do, that why I have both.

That is pretty much it...hope this helped.

AllItTakesisOne

James or Joe- Does SEnuke have plans to add the interlinking feature?

hbsjcd3

You can do interlinking on Senuke too. But its optional in the software.

lovegen

Will my sites get banned or sandboxed by Google if I use SENuke or BruteForce?

hbsjcd3

No. I have 26 bogs and websites that I am promoting using BruteForce and SEnuke and not one has every been banned. There is no reason to ban since your money sites get backlinks from web 2.0 sites, which Google has no way of telling if they are yours or someone not related.

Just to be on the safe side, though. I always run the bruteforce software and Senuke software with my laptop with a sprint aircard, which changes my IP everytime I submit to a series of sites

Preben Frenning

Depends on the age of domain, increase in links, content, and many things.

I have never gotten deindexed or "sandboxed", but if you hit it too hard you might.

If you have a new domain and a new site, I'd recommend you to start out with some social bookmarking, a few articles, and give it a steady increase.

As long as you don't get loads of high-quality links overnight.

BigJace

SEO Nuke All the way. I know when it first came out if was a little buggy but its pretty solid now

ryanbessling

I was thinking about getting Brute Force SEO since the new version has been released. Does anoyone have a review on the latest version?

Kuma

After having paid a lot of money for Brute Force SEO for many months and being plagued with too many software updates (including 3.15 which I don´t think was such an improvement-) and things that did not work I finally was fed up and tried SENuke. I liked the systematic no-hpye approach of SENuke and I cancelled BFSEO.
Pete has opened the doors again and is selling BFSEO for $147 month (after the $1 trial) which I think is way too expensive.
In my opinion SENuke is much better and works much more smoothly.
As a new completely overhauled version of SENuke will be available in 2 or 3 months I decided to buy Big Mike´s RSS Bot and Social Bot for a ridiculously low price (WSO !).These 2 packages work wonder and are so easy to use. What I still need is a good article submission software that is reasonably priced. I have also made a decision not to buy monthly subscription offers if they are not beyond doubt - you end up co-financing the software development before you realize.

MaryT

***Updated after this week-end suffering*****

Hi Warriors

here is my experience with these great tools

they are both great tools to automate your business

BUT, they can be counter productive if you don't have a clear plan and follow some rules

if you acquire them for a miracle push button, you may start to submit like a mad PLR all around. And that's the worst way to use these tools

Rating:
i rate SENUKE 9/10 for the results
I rate bruteforceseo 3/10 as just was unable to use it, account creation and twitter just never worked. and the tutorials videos are just useless small talk of Peter

cheers
Mary

revpl2

SENuke it is.

MaryT

sorry to say that, but it just after buying 50 software, that only 5 work; you start to become really cautious about the next big things

I have joined and unsubscribed after testing the last bruteforceseo

the videos are useless, and the software are too buggy so far
it does not command a price of 147$/month for no results...worst just lost hours trying to use it, and the videos are really unprofessional.
Peter was more concerned to send tons of emails to promote and he made good cash but poor work on the tutorials side
really disappointed, as i tried to use it

use Senuke, it's much more professional with a real support and real tutorials
I have to say Thumbs up to the guys of Senuke, as they have created a really amazing piece of software.

my 2 cents
Mary

mick535

I have used SENuke for over 6 months now and I have watched it grow and improve over that time. These guys are tirelessly working at making this software better. In fact, they are working on a complete rewrite of the software now in order to create even more functionality.

You won't get this type of dedication from too many internet marketing software companies. Most are short lived. I would say right now that they have built this product as a long term project, not a quick money maker.

SENuke is my only choice for Web 2.0 SEO promotion.

rhab

It's been a while since using senuke myself. I've considered it again most recently simply to speed up the web 2.0 side of my campaigns and I'm ramping up my video submission now. Generally I don't like programs that automate my account process and create sites.

One thing I'm wondering if a current user could answer for me, does senuke still create accounts with numbers in them? That always really bothered me for some reason, it just screams of automation.

Ghostinthemachine

hbsjcd3 has some really great advice. I currently use neither, but plan to at some point, after I streamline what I have.

I never knew that about using a Sprint card changing you IP address every time automatically... does that work for all cell phone/wireless internet carriers?

reapr

Proxy comes to mind here. Its free. Did I miss something?

gocontempo

You take the URL list and insert anchor text and then resubmit where?

Brian.expert

Definitely SEnuke seems to be far more promising as a good team lead is always keeping it update and that truly has made it more bug free and hence more worth while for all the efforts put in.

patchman

SE Nuke is freakin awesome!! THis is the only tool I use for my Internet marketing and encompasses everything I do in my campaigns. Its certainly cut down my work time 90%. I definately recommend this software to any one!!

Sam101

Pardon my very basic and maybe stupid question here, but what does SENuke really do? Is it similar to BookMarking Demon and those kinds of automated social bookmarking thingies? Or is it something different and/or more?

Andycal

Sorry to raise this topic again, but does the interlinking strategy of BF mean it is potentially more effective than SENuke?

Jon Alexander

are you asking if leaving a big old footprint hurts? Because senuke is VERY careful not to leave any prints.

INFOSEEKER-2009

From all of these reviews ... Senuke .. Hands Down !!!

Thanx !

oneup38668

As someone who has tried both maybe I can shed some light into the discussion. My opinion:

As others have pointed out, the user interface of Senuke is prettier than BFSEO. I don't really care about that. When using BFSEO, I originally picked a niche that had about 250,000 results and 3000 monthly searches. After fumbling around with the software (It was my first run and I had no idea what I was doing) I noticed that after about 2 weeks my site occupied the #1 spot in Google. That was about 3 months ago. Today, on a whim, I typed the keyword in Google and I am still at #1. Amazingly, when I put my domain in quotes in the Google search bar, it returns about 60,000 instances of the web site! For one run! Too bad I was clueless at the time and picked an unprofitable niche and crappy website.

The downside of BFSEO (And Senuke) is that the membership is really expensive. I wish it was a one time fee instead of a monthly subscription. In fact, I've had to cancel my membership twice due to this. I have been unemployed the last few months and simply have not been able to afford the subscription. As soon as I start getting a paycheck again, I will re-subscribe because it works. As far as Senuke, what really frustrated me was the account creator. It creates accounts at about a 30% success rate (at least for me). I was not happy with this. At the very least, the software should allow me to input account properties I have created by hand (It does not).

One awesome thing about Senuke that BFSEO does not offer is it automatically goes into your email and verifies the accounts. With BFSEO, you have to do it by hand. To be fair to Senuke, I didn't do a complete run because I couldn't get past the account creation problems. It really bothered me. I ended up cancelling my subscription because of it. Another thing about BFSEO I really like is the DARE function. Really awesome. As far as the techniques themselves, both have sound SEO principles. All the softwares do is what I would be doing by hand anyway, it just speeds up the process exponentially.

A warning for anyone using the softwares: Don't abuse the process (Multiple runs for a domain and keyword) then blame the software. Be responsible and don't spam! Again, I will most likely re-subscribe to BFSEO after I get a job (So I eventually won't need a job! Ironic isn't it?). Now that I have a much better understanding of niche research, keyword research, and domain and site manipulation, there is no doubt I will be able to jump into a niche and profit from it.

I guess I could do the work without getting software, but for anyone who has done any of the stuff the software does, it is VERY mind numbing! I just want to sit there and enter captchas! Oh, that reminds me, another awesome feature that Senuke has that BFSEO doesn't have is an automatic captcha submitter. So I guess both have their good points and bad points, but for my money, the winner is BFSEO.

Jeremy Kelsall

Anyone that has not tried the latest version of SENUKE should do so...the program now is simply amazing.

KentuckyJeff

I too thought SENUKE (haven't tried BFSEO) was a great program, and that was a good while ago, before some of the new, impressive changes were made to the software.

However, just like 'oneup', I can't handle the recurring fee. I realize for all of the ongoing work that has to be done to keep it doing what it does, and for the new features, it's maybe worth it, but I'll have to admire it from afar.

I sure wish either or both programs could be offered as a one-time payment, even if it was a bit more.

Jeremy Kelsall

The monthly fee is stiff, but if you practice using it, you should be able to make the recurring payment in a day...

BertTassoni

I tend to agree. The current version leaves BFSEO for dead! I am using both extensively. I only hope that the new version of BFSEO, being EVO2 comes out quickly.

dave147

I tried SEnuke and it did look good but couldn't get it to work properly within the 7 day trial. I think the owners should extend the trial to 30 days so you have time to overcome any setup obstacles, and you'll also have time to see a result before committing to $127.00 a month.

checkback

I prefer SENuke by a long way.

Heavy monthly fee so you can't just sit back and admire it.

Jim

Daniel Tan

All the way, SENUKE!

This software is ultimately neat. Creates account on the fly, including account creation for 4 emails (your choice), then the Web 2.0 sites, video sites, bookmarking sites and RSS sites.

I create a new set of Web 2.0 sites everyday. You don't need to create too many bookmarking sites, few profiles are enough to work for few weeks. On RSS, about 2 to 3 is enough as only 3 sites need login, the rest are free submit.

I like the keyword research tool inside, coupled with Google Adwords Tool and the batch research tool, I can easily find easy keywords to target. I am actually using SENUKE's keyword tool to do my Sniper sites!

Further, SENUKE can submit your Web 2.0 sites in as many threads as your PC can handle. I just got a new laptop, so now I can open 15 submitters and let them work all at the same time! Within minutes, I can complete a full nuking, including social bookmarking and RSS nuking! This is one of the most important feature every program must have, multi-threading!

The updates are frequent. It has a built-in bug/not-working report tool, just key in your problem and submit. You will most likely see a fix on the next update. This kind of support is really the success of SENUKE!

I am 4 months into SeNuke already. I agree, you need the right skill and mindset to success with SeNuke, just like every other tool.

Daniel

bilmer

Thanks guys. I was about to subscribe to BF SEO but after reading this thread I change my mind and go for SENuke instead.

BertTassoni

I have been using both SEnuke and BFSEO extensively for almost two months now. Yes, I prefer SEnuke over BFSEO because it looks better, it is more SEO friendly and the latest version has a whopping 490 sites in its Web2.0 Profile Nuke versus BFSEO's 100 sites in Linking Loophole.

But, guess what? I have had enormous success with BFSEO and LL getting dozens of KWs (some very difficult one's) to first spot or first page of Google. To-date I have not achieved a single result with SEnuke. This baffles me as I would expect far better results with SEnuke. Instead nada.

The only thing I can think of is that SEnuke is used by far more IM's than BFSEO and the sites are extensively spammed causing many of the SEnuke sites to fight back.

timbor

I use SEnuke on a daily basis,, and it works.. if it works and I get higher rankings and make more money.. then I am happy to pay

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I am interested to see what happens with BFSEO EVO2 but we will have to wait and see that is for sure.

jjcali

What do you find is the best feature of SENuke? Does anyone find the link wheel strategy helpful?

Ray Erdmann

As someone who has been considering using SENuke as a tool to use in my IM business, I'm at their 7-day free trial page and I have one quick question about it.

I'm currently in the process of switching banks, and because of this, I've not yet received my new debit/visa card and the account linked to my PayPal account will be closed down shortly. Seeing as they say you don't pay for the 1st 7 days...would anyone for see any problems if I just go ahead and sign up and not worry about the bank account situation as long as I cancel w/in the 7-day grace period...or would it just be better if I just wait till I get my new bank card in the mail?