Darren Cooper

I for one, am waiting to try out the new BruteForceSEO Evo II...(using Linking Loophole right now)

I will pass judgement once I am able to get my hands on it!

broker12

It seems that if the new bruteforceseo evo II delivers on all the promises it will bring it closer to senuke. Senuke may still have some features that evo II does not.

Jeremy Kelsall

Yeah, it seems as though EVOII is implementing some of the things that SENUKE already has in place which will bring it closer.

BUT

SENUKE is going through an overhaul as well so, at least in my opinion, the rest of the pack will still be chasing SENUKE.

I'm definitely going to try EVO out, because I like to try all the new stuff that comes out, but SENUKE the software as well as the support that AReeb offers, is damn near unbeatable, in my opinion.

HospitalD

I just came off my free trial for SENuke...I believe that it would be more cost effective to buy various flat rate software packages instead of over $100/month recurring. However, if you are making $500+ a month with IM, I can see the cost justification to have everything there at once.

SimonHarrison

They seem to have just released the "vip" purchase period for the all new singing and dancing version of Bruteforce, be interested to hear people's thoughts who have a play with it.

salegurus

Just signed up to BF EVOII
Will give it a go
My first observation it's $30pm more than SE Nuke, may be priced to high.

Cyrious

I'm trying BF EVO 2 as well. I've put the link in my sig file but I haven't really tested it at this stage. Some of the ancilliary software that comes with the membership I have been using for a couple of weeks and do like - but I dont use SE Nuke so can't compare.
We will see.
Cheers
Alan

Aditya K

I have used SENuke, and am quite happy with it. My friend used Brute Force, and he discontinued after a week and switched over to senuke, so I got the answer!

thehypnoman

I've been using Evo for about 2 hrs so far and it looks pretty cool so far....

Nice and easy, couldn't get it to load at first, but support got back to me in 10 mins which impressed me.

Jeremy Kelsall

I picked up EVO about an hour and a half ago.

The Good:

The interface is WAYYYYYYYY better than it was before
The software is easier to operate
It is laid out in a way that makes sense
It appears to be alot less buggy than my previous experiences.

The Not So Good:

It is still not 100% automated - You still have to jot down email addresses and passwords for some things to enter into other fields. Some might say this isn't a big deal, but for $157 a month it should do this.

Account creation is a bit slow - Some of my bookmarking accounts took 3 or 4 minutes for the captcha to be filled out. To create the 8 or so bookmarking accounts my total time was almost 20 minutes.

That is about it for now - I'll update more as I dig into it deeper.

EDIT: On the good side - I really like the way it does the auto email confirms without having to do anything else.

Frank Bruno

Still trying it out.

So far I really like how nicely laid out the interace is and how quick it can create an e-mail account and password for the account creation.

First It automatically creates an e-mail account and password to use for your account creation.(within seconds) Then you can select which accounts you would like the software to create.

Video sites, article sites (including EZA), bookmarking,rss feeds,etc.

Then it goes to work on creating those accounts.

When I first ran the account creation it seemed to stall out for long periods of times on some captcha solving in the beginning. It got stuck on one site so I tried to enter captcha myself and it froze the program. So I had to restart program. Luckily it lets you save your project file to load again.

Now I'm just letting it run throuhg all the account creation without any intervention just to see how it handles everything on its own.

It seems to be going through all the sites. I will have to wait and see how many sites it created successful accounts for. Its suppose to verify the accounts that go to your e-mail.

I will have to check and see when the dust settles on the account creation to see whats going on.

Then I guess move on to next step which is loading content to have EVO put it up on the sites.

I guess what your suppose to do with the videos sharing sites is to upload one video to youtube (which it does not create an account for) then the software pulls that video from youtube using its url to use in HeySpread to upload your video to the other video sharing sites.

Again have not got to the content part yet. Still creating accounts stage.

I like the idea and concept of EVO2.

I really hope that everything contineus to run smooth.

EDIT: WOW sweet after all the account creation. A small window pops up and tells me that it is checking e-mail. Now I get to watch the software login to my newly create yahoo e-mail account and verify all the accounts it just created for the content sites. I see 24 e-mails in there.And more are showing up as the software verifys each account.

EDIT: Ok the dust has settled on the account creation.

Heres the breakdown of my account creation. Your results may be different but these are mine...


1) Out of 5 possbile feed sites it created 4 accounts

2) Out of 9 possbile article sites it created 2 accounts (not happy with this)
I elected to exclude EZA (Edit: just found out bharatbhasha has stopped allowing submissions from everybody)

3) Out of 13 possbile social sites it created 11 accounts

4) Out of 11 possbile video sites it created 9 accounts (they tell you in .pdf that revver might be problem- which it was) Youtube is not included in account creation

5) Out of 1 possbile tools sites(rss site) it created 1 accounts

Frank Bruno

graphicsgenie

I've been involved with the launch of Brute Force, aint EVO a cute little guy

A graphics Genie creation....

Would love to hear more thoughts

Darren

Jeremy Kelsall

Update: I just ran the Loophole portion of it...

Again, the acct creation was kind of slow which typically isn't a big deal, but from what I understand you have to leave the window up and your computer idle while it solves captchas etc...so, I'm running EVO on a separate box.

After it created all the accounts, the software attempted to log into the gmail account it created, but the gmail account was already disabled

So, I'm going to see if there is a way to set it up with a catch-all so I don't have to worry about that...either that or buy some gmail accounts

So far, I'm impressed with the look and layout...but, concerned with the speed. I'm going to read back through the documentation to make sure I'm doing everything right and then give it another go

thehypnoman

My girlfriend seems to think that EVO is a real robot that does all the work for me...AWWW Bless

Frank Bruno

Thats what I did the second time and seemed to work.

One thing I did notice is that on the article sites it created accounts for it only listed 2 sites that had successfuly created accounts for in the software.

However when I go to those sites I can login, so the accounts have been created they are just not showing in the softwar that the accounts were created.

Well actually I'm still going down the list. And so far Article Alley I found this so far.

Frank Bruno

graphicsgenie

HE ISN'T???

He has a voice and everything,

Frank Bruno

Just found out bharatbhasha has stopped allowing submissions from everybody.

also EAsyarticles blocking submisisons.

So they need to remove these sites from the software

Frank Bruno

nitin22

I like SENUKE more than any other tool. Indeed you can combine a few tool that may become as effective as SENUKE, however SENUKE is one single POWERHOUSE of the SEO industry. Indeed their charges are high, but now I make daily more than what they charge on monthly.

Frank Bruno

EVO2-

Most if not all the article accounts were indeed created and setup.
Its just that most of them were not showing on the right of each article directory in the sofware.

What I recommend to do until admins of EVO2 can resolve is to try to login to each site that is not showing as successully created on left. You may find that indeed the accounts were created.

Then just copy and paste your user/pass from one of the others accounts since they are all the same.

Now need to move on to test the rest of the software http://seofightclub.bruteforceseo.co...ilies/wink.gif

Frank Bruno

Thanks
Frank Bruno

salegurus

OK.
So i have been busy with BF EVO2 for about 4 hours now.
The interface is clean easy to use.
The registration process is a bit tedious with Captha's taking a bit of time to solve.
Setting up Articles and RSS function also quite easy.
Submission shows quite a few failures, the Gmail account created by BF EVO has already been disabled, cannot verify accounts.
(You can buy Gmail accounts, but at $157 pm i don't expect to)

Support
I can't gain access to Forum as the password that was emailed to me does not work?
Logged a ticket with support 5 hours ago no reply? (Maybe time dif between Aus and USA)

Positives
Clean
Easy to work with
90% automated

Negs
Price $157pm
Slow Support
Automated Email accounts useless, Disabled within 30mins by Google
Time taken to submit two URL's start to finish 5 Hours

All submissions still have to be verified manually to get a clear picture of how well BF performs.

It's early stages and maybe once all the bugs are ironed out, and they figure out how to give support on USA time BF may compete, but as of now SE NUKE is the clear winner.

SimonHarrison

Good feedback from everybody, keep it coming as your tests progress, very helpful to see a growing picture of the pros and cons so far.

Frank Bruno

Interesting you mention that you can't get into the EVO2 forum as Pete just responded to a post that I made a few minutes ago and didn't even ask him a question ,I just posted my feedback and he gave a suggestion.

I also got a warm welcome over there from other forum contributers and my name was not even shown in the forum. It was under a different username.

Yahoo e-mail works like a charm. Not sure how they work the yahoo or gmail and who gets them and if they are rotated,etc. behind the scenes or if its rotated within the software

Frank Bruno

JeffLam

Guys,

Sorry to interrupt here.

But I really just want to let the cat out of the bag here.

I'm currently also developing something similar that will compete with the best of the best tools.

Aptly titled, SEOmated. Check my sig.

Listening to Feedback is the most important thing any businessman can have.

As such, please leave as much feedback as possible in this thread.

Remember, a free market only benefits the consumers!

Just to let you guys know: Yes, I hear and understand the same old cries of the users of such software ..

..not to forget that I was the user before.

Black Hat Cat

Same problem here, only I can't even submit a support ticket because you have to register first, and to register you have to fill out a CAPTCHA, which isn't working. It keeps telling me I've entered the wrong CAPTCHA, when I can see clearly that I haven't.

Oh, my gmail account was nuked immediately too. Not sure why they would even use gmail considering the need for a cell phone number. Surely that would have been a red flag.

Chris Koltai

Hi Jeff! Stoked to hear that you're developing an automation tool, I just popped over to your SEOmated site and it sounds great. If you can provide equal or better service to SENuke and match their update frequency, you should be able to crush it as long as your pricing is competitive.

SENuke has been my favorite IM tool for the past year or so, but lately it seems like only about 25-30% of the sites actually work, and their captcha service has been less than reliable over the last month or so.

On that note, I'm trying BFSEO EVO II at the moment. Right now I'm going through the account creation and I'm feeling like the price is a bit high. The captcha service is blowing through the "Retries" in 5 seconds each, I'm guessing either everyone has gone home for the evening or they're swamped, but either way, when it's advertised as "total automation", it's disappointing. As a former customer of BF LLH, it's pretty unexpected, as issues with that particular piece of software were few and far between.

If you're looking for user feedback to channel into your own product, here's my 2 cents. Focus on customer service and providing quality above anything else. I'd rather have a piece of software with 10 sites in each section that works close to 100% of the time than one with 40 sites that works 50% of the time. The frustration is simply not worth the "chance" of having everything work IMO.

Oh, and if you provide a captcha breaking service, make sure it's a good one. There are few things more irritating in my site-promoting process than setting up a piece of "fully automated" software to create accounts, going and getting some housework done, and coming back to see it stuck on the first site telling me to manually enter the captcha. Awesome.

Oh, and to keep this on topic, for account creation, SENuke is winning by a landslide at the moment in both the speed and reliability categories. We'll see how the posting features work.

Chris Koltai

UPDATE: Account creation finished. It goes back to the gmail account which, unsurprisingly, has been nuked. As a gesture of good faith, I do the whole SMS verification thing. After I entered my verification code, it closes the window. So much for verifying the emails. Roughly an hour wasted there.

Just as a test, I decided to go through the main process. I ended up quitting about halfway through. It's just too slow. I'm running it on a dedicated system and it's taking longer than it would just take me to go to the site and use Roboform to signup.

I'm sure there are going to be people saying "It's a launch, he's giving out 5000 trials, of course its slow!" to which I would like to preemptively respond with "Yes, but this is the trial that people are going to use to decide whether or not to pay for the software. If your free trial makes the software look bad, it's not going to convert."

It's launch day, so I'll give it a try tomorrow or the next day and see if it's improved any, but as of right now, things aren't looking good.

Black Hat Cat

Bingo. I just finished running the account creator, and I had to enter the captchas manually on most of them. At one point it was at least 7 straight. This was after letting the software run for an hour while I was doing stuff in another room. So much for being "Free to walk away from your desk secure in the knowledge that EVO's got it handled... To go and play with your kids... Walk with your partner on a beach... Or just loaf...", lol.

I can see the potential here, but if this isn't worked out by day 7, I won't be staying on.

EDIT

Just to add, the content posting, linking, and the second set of email confirmations is working brilliantly so far. If they get the captcha part, and the hands-off "automation" part straightened out, this will be a nifty little piece of software.

james95

thanks for your suggestion . I am a new member of thsi forum.

Chris Koltai

Yeah, agreed. Count yourself lucky that you only had to enter 7, I had to enter every single one

As it stands right now, if Pete wants to justify the higher price tag, he's going to have to outperform SENuke, especially with SENuke X coming out in a few months promising all sorts of improvements.

Jeremy Kelsall

Same here - I was entering captchas through the entire account creation process...The software would eventually solve them but in many cases it would take 3 minutes+ to enter one captcha.

I think I'll keep my subscription to see EVOII progress as it looks like Pete is on the right track - But, my goto tool will still be SENUKE for the time being, especially with the upgrade coming. Areeb has been very good at giving his users exactly what they want and I'm sure the update will be more than impressive.

abs007

Hi Ive had the evo 2 software since yesterday the launch day - Im on my 3rd run now.

a full run normally takes about 5 hours but once you have your static accounts created then the run takes about 2.5 hours or so.

The captcha solving is very poor - it allows 10 attempts to solve the captcha with each attempt allowing 60 secs so it can take upto 10 mins to solve - On many occasions I need to enter the captcha manually. I would also expect better captcha solving for the price of the software.

The software runs extremely well in the 2nd and 3rd phase of the automation - The 2nd phase is the auto email confirmation and the 3rd is the posting of the links - There is nothing I can fault here.

You can run the software in its entirety or select which modules you would like to run - Im a little confused as to where I can find the bookmarking urls and the article directory urls - I think I need to send a support ticket regarding this.

The software creates a rss feed for all of the backlinks it creates so backlinks will be pointed to your backlinks that point to the money site giving them more value - I thought this was one of the best parts of the software.

I will continue to use it for the 7 days and see how it go's.

I have used senuke before and thought it was very easy to use - its certainly quicker to set up accounts and the support is fantastic.

Evo 2 is heading in the right direction and is only in its early stages. I love the linking loophole software and may not be a payed member for the evo 2 software but will certainly continue with the linking loophole subscription.

Jeff I cant wait till you launch your seomated software - its sounds great and I will certainly try it out

JohnS

Also currently trying EVOII. I'm having the same problem with the gmail account being disabled. After I reactivated it, there was no way to tell the software to pick up where it left off, so I ended up having to manually approve all the static accounts.

Also having the captcha issues. Not only does it take several minutes per captcha, when I leave the computer for any length of time and come back, it is invariably stuck on a reCAPTCHA window, prompting me to manually enter. I didn't think the product would require so much babysitting.

JeffLam

Hi Chris,

Glad to see you are interested!

Yes, like all businesses, I have done my studies (and am still doing - continual process!) on this 'niche'.

My emphasis will always be on customer service and satisfaction. Hence feedback will always be VERY important.

Don't want to give away much here, but all I can say is right now the way I'm going about development with this software, a lot of the current problems can be easily solved!

Yes, I want to finally make something that you CAN really set and forget..for a good 1 month or more. Not set and forget for an hour. Nor set and forget for 1 min if an error pops up.

No guarantees, but I'm basically trying to solve all problems everyone is facing with such tools. Myself included.

If you're interested, you gotta stay tune as I WILL be giving more updates.

BRO!

Yes, I have certainly gone ahead with the idea.

Don't worry bro, you will DEFINITELY be the first few to test out the software.

Man, I really hope you are doing well with your web businesses and SEO services!

Take care will ya?

Jeremy Kelsall

For anyone having trouble with the gmails being disabled...set up a catchall for a domain name you have and use the "advanced email" feature....

Might be worth pete doing some sort of video showing how to do that if he hasn't already.

Black Hat Cat

Good luck with that. You need to register to send a ticket, but you can't register because his captcha(for me at least) keeps saying "invalid captcha entered".

Toni Hoffmann

still indecisive if i should get it too...

keep the reviews coming guys...

toni

trishworks4u

signed up for your list Jeff.

I got the Evo II trial yesterday and just kept hitting the button to create my email account and kept getting the error message - then gave up. I already have to babysit enough automation programs with captchas and account creations.

I'm glad I found this thread - probably not even going to mess with this for now. to think, i was seriously pondering the upsell 2-yr deal but then thought - what IM product is ever good (not obsolete) for 2 whole years? very few...

PeteNY

I got the free 7-day trial of Brute Force SEO yesterday and started using it this morning.

I'm also an SENuke user. I think I'm going to end up using BOTH.

I took Brute Force up on their one time offer to get 2 years for about a grand. That's just over $40 a month. Plus I pay about $100 a month for SENuke.

My plan, at this point, is to use Brute Force SEO first to quickly get backlinks to my money site with my main keyword. Brute force suggests using unspun articles they provide, so this is a quick way to get my first backlinks while I work on writting and spinning articles for SENuke.

Next, I'll use SENuke to get a second set of backlinks perhaps a week later. With SENuke, I'll use my spun articles and do deeper linking with additional keyphrases. And of course a whole new set of accounts.

My third wave will probably be back to Brute Force SEO for video links back to my money site.

I figure it can only help to have a more diverse selection of sources for backlinks. Bruteforce currently has about 50 high PR sites that SENuke doesn't have. Plus it looks like they have better coverage of video sites.

Any thoughts on this dual SENuke/Brute Force strategy?

By the way, it only took an hour to set up the main accounts from email creation, to accounts creation, to email verification. I watched it do it's thing and entered the CAPTCHA as they came up. The CAPTCHA part was only about 23 minutes. Very little effort and real fast!

If you want to check out the seven day trial, my affiliate link is below in my signature. I think it's worth at least checking out...

(Are we allowed to have affiliate links in our signature? I didn't find anything against it in the Warrior Forum FAQ or Help section.)

PeteNY

Trish,

You may have missed in the PDF instructions, it says you need to make sure you are updated to Windows .NET 3.5, IE8, and the latest windows operating system. Links are in the PDF. Took me 10 minutes to update everything and get started. It's easy to miss this important point if you only watch the tutorial videos and not the PDF instructions.

Also, like I said in my last post, the CAPTCHA really isn't a big deal during account creation. I just had to enter CAPTCHAs about twice a minute for 23 minutes. Maybe I'm weird, but I enjoyed watching it run through the account creation on all the sites while I waited for the CAPTCHA box to pop up.

Jeremy Kelsall

It might not be a big deal for you, but for $1,400 a year, it should fill in the captchas....and quickly too.

Maybe an option to allow our own captcha services would take care of it? I imagine quite a few people are going to be using it extensively in the weeks to come so the captcha time will no doubt be slow if they are all going to the same captcha house.

PeteNY

I agree, the option to use your own CAPTCHA service would be nice. But, I haven't had a problem so far with Brute Force SEO. Like someone else said, it takes a little over 2 hours for each run with their CAPTCHA service. Not sure my own CAPTCHA would do it faster or not.

I've been using a CAPTCHA service instead of SENuke's for the past week because SENuke's CAPTCHA has been unreliable. But, we do what we gotta do. No biggie.

abuhakim

BruteForce is way too buggy. Automation products are supposed to save you time, not waste it trying to get the programs to work. Besides that, their support sucks as with most of his products!

trishworks4u

No - I'm not always the best with "directions" and that's entirely my fault. - ends up costing me more time in the end sometimes.

I guess my only source of heartburn here would be committing to a 2-yr deal when I don't see any (hardly) guru's keeping up with any product or service for that amount of time. These things require CONSTANT tweeking to keep up with all of the site changes, url switches, you name it. It's a constant update race where your "miracle" automation machine could become a nice desktop ornament in under a week if you don't have some seriously dedicated programmers behind it.

I've seen it happen and it's disappointing when you spent $30, $50 or even $100. ...they're asking a bit more for this.

could be worth it. I'm wrong all the time....

PeteNY

Yeah it is a big financial leap of faith. I'm not going to try to talk you into it. But, my hope is, as with SENuke, a high monthly fee will be huge incentive for the programs to keep the software up to date and keeping the users happy.

So far that model seems to work well with SENuke. Looks like Brute Force was off to a rocky start, but hopefully they've been in$pired to step it up.

Shift

BF2 - I watched the video on the sales page where he walks you through the software showing you what it does, but I won't buy it because I think it's too expensive $157 per month.

As far as I can see it's supposed to automatically create accounts (but the reviews are saying it's hardly automated and requires manually entering captchas), be able to post articles and videos, do some bookmarking, and submit rss feeds. Anything else?

There's already cheaper software (for a one off payment) that does article submission.
And another program that does bookmarking to more sites, also a once off payment and not a high monthly fee.

My 2c.

Chris Koltai

If the software worked as well as it should, $157 / month would be a bargain, as you could easily make that back in a day or so.

An article submitter and bookmarking software will only get you so far. If you want to go the "one-off" route, then eventually you'll want to buy a web 2.0 / blog submitter, an RSS submitter, and a video submitter. And if we're talking about matching Pete's products, as far as I know, there's nothing like Linking Loophole on a single payment.

It really depends on what you have more of, time or money. For me, I'd rather spend $127-$157 / month to free up 2-3 work hours per day that I can spend doing other stuff. Considering I can put up a brand new site with a couple of articles in that time, it's significantly more valuable than $157.

Joe Russell

Hi Trish,

You hit the nail on the head!

Keeping up with the changes to the sites SEnuke submits to in order to maintain an acceptable submission rate is a constant battle. It takes an extremely dedicated team of programmers to manage this...the more sites and strategy we add the more frequent updates are needed and we do update SEnuke constantly...almost monthly.

I can assure that SEnuke/SEnuke X will not become anyones "Desktop Ornament" anytime soon

Joe Russell

Black Hat Cat

Now this is more like it. After a software update, the program is running flawlessly. Haven't had to put in a single captcha. Now if I can just get access to the forum, I'll be set.

Black Hat Cat

You'll find out soon I'm sure, lol. It's only a matter of time before one of the sig nazis rolls by.

Shift

Actually I meant a web2.0 submitter and not bookmarker.

RSS feeds you can also mash together.

I'd rather spend a once off payment because it then works out much cheaper in the end, but that's just me.