Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke

Angela Neo · 10-20-2008, 07:19 AM

Hi

I'd like to seek some opinions on the ratings of the two... I know there are 2 separate threads about the 2 software but I'm wondering if anyone has tried both and could give an objective comparison in terms of results. I think they are quite similar so I would assume having one of them is sufficient, unless someone has more insight about this.

Thanks

donnyh · 10-21-2008, 06:38 PM

SEnuke hands down.

No offence to Pete but SEnuke is 100 times less buggy, supports a ton more features, the user interface doesn't look like a child designed it and supports better websites.

Just my 2 cents.

napoleonfirst · 10-21-2008, 08:31 PM

SENUke is really cool with a lot of features. Cool program.

Angela Neo · 10-22-2008, 02:08 AM

Yeah I'm having issues with Bruteforce's support system.. sent in a support ticket like 4 or 5 days ago... not a word from them.

I do think bruteforce has lots of potential but it needs to have better support for a $97 subscription

stevorino · 10-22-2008, 04:37 PM

There is another thread about this here:
Anyone having great success with Brute Force SEO?

My personal opinion is that Bruteforce SEO gets a big thumbs down for myself and my customers who ask for my reviews. Go with SENuke. Bruteforce SEO It isn't worth $97.00 a month. There are reasons beyond the buggy software that aren't appropriate to discuss here, but beware.

Jerry Mcvictor · 10-23-2008, 09:31 PM

SEnuke is a wonderful piece of software. I really love it when software works the way it's advertised, and Senuke does that and then some. The latest upgrade is awesome. I never get bored watching the new submission window. The blinking red, blue and green...I haven't seen my wife since.

greyhatter · 10-24-2008, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnyh

SEnuke hands down.
...the user interface doesn't look like a child designed it and supports better websites.

OMFG.

You just sold me on SENuke.

kkchoon · 10-24-2008, 02:16 AM

I am using SENuke, so far so good, but you need some SEO and article skills to use it correctly...

SaSeoPete · 10-24-2008, 02:33 AM

FOr some reason it won't let me join. When I try and sign up I get Your IP is blocked???

Has this happened to anyone else? I emailed them but have had no reply.

Joe Russell · 10-24-2008, 08:38 AM

Hey Pete, I sent a reply to your email this morning.

Joe Russell

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaSeoPete

FOr some reason it won't let me join. When I try and sign up I get Your IP is blocked???

Has this happened to anyone else? I emailed them but have had no reply.

Preben Frenning · 10-26-2008, 01:27 PM

I haven't used Brute SEO, but I use SeNuke, and I like it.

I haven't used it to it's full potential yet, but I'm starting to see many different social bookamrking links showing up in the Se's now.

However, if you go with SeNuke, remember to get uniqueness above 30%. Seriously! Taking a few minutes extra to do this can make you go from 1 to 20 pages showing up in the search engines!

getmorebuyers · 10-30-2008, 04:22 PM

Both of them are good for internet marketing savvy individuals. it does come with a learning curve for newbies.

Preben Frenning · 10-31-2008, 03:40 AM

Yeah, SeNuke is best for advanced internet marketers.
I don't think a newbie would have any clue about what to do in the beginning.
I have recently started using it, and I see several links to me on the first pages on google.

wizlor · 10-31-2008, 04:47 AM

Sound like SeNuke wins hands down.

James Schramko · 10-31-2008, 08:30 AM

I am testing them both and the auto social, article video account creator add-on for the BF SEO package works quite well.

Will update as I move through it.

donnyh · 11-01-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I am testing them both and the auto social, article video account creator add-on for the BF SEO package works quite well.

Will update as I move through it.

lol James I saw your location as Sydney, Australia so I got a little bit curious.

So i dug through your posts and came across this:

Quote:

Pete by the time I got home from your place I had more $$ than when I left !

I don't mean to spy into your personal affairs, but any chance you're Pete's friend and just trying to stick up for his product?

Let's try and keep this as unbiased as possible.

askloz · 11-01-2008, 01:41 PM

Someone doesn't agree that SENuke is good.
SENuke - SE Nuke

James Schramko · 11-01-2008, 06:06 PM

Donny, I think looking up the background of people who post in this forum is pretty good due diligence. I have no problem with that.

When I make posts in public I do so with full transparency.

I first met Peter online when I noticed his blogposts in an SEO competition that we were both competing in. I have exchanged ideas and opinions with him since then and I would say we have a good friendship.

Yes I went to his house once. I was there presenting to a group of warriors on the subject of traffic at a recent Warrior Forum get together.

A group of warriors also went to dinner in full public view at a local restaurant.

In this thread I have not posted a glowing testimonial, I just mentioned the auto account creator works for me since this is one of the slowest aspects of social bookmarking-creating all those accounts. When I ran the software I was delighted with the level of automation and how it can save time.

Importantly, I am a full paying customer just like anyone else with BruteforceSEO so I feel that I am entitled to comment on my experience with the product. Peter has never asked me to comment on his product.

So far it is working. I did mention in my review that I am comparing it back to back with SENuke and I'll be posting further comments.

I'm not compromised by others in my opinion of products. I have personally met and travelled with many of the big name marketers and I never promote products or services that don't meet my standards.

I checked the rules:

2. If you post your opinion on a product it must be longer than "it sucks" or "it's great". We're looking for intelligent feedback and reasons why you feel the way you do, good or bad.

3. Do not attack nor give your opinion about the product creator. This forum is about product reviews, not the people who create the products.

4. In general, just use common sense and don't come in here just to bash products created by people you may not like. Again, we are looking for intelligent reviews so people can be helped in making a decision one way or the other.

I couldn't find anything that says you can't post if you've ever met the product creator.

donnyh · 11-02-2008, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askloz

Someone doesn't agree that SENuke is good.
SENuke - SE Nuke

lol, that's your blog isn't it? If not, I don't understand why you couldn't have just put the website address here instead of adding keyword-specific anchor text to help that page rank better for the terms "SEnuke" and "SE Nuke"?

Anyways, that blog is not important because it is attacking the concept behind any automated SEO software and the guy seems to have his own vested interest of selling an eBook or something... it really has nothing to do with comparing brute force seo with senuke.

@James: Yea that's fine, you're still entitled to your opinion and you very well could be a genuinely nice guy trying to post an unbiased opinion. But the fact that you're Pete's friend just stood out to me so I thought I'd share that knowledge with the rest of the folks reading this, nothing personal.

James Schramko · 11-02-2008, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnyh

lol, that's your blog isn't it? If not, I don't understand why you couldn't have just put the website address here instead of adding keyword-specific anchor text to help that page rank better for the terms "SEnuke" and "SE Nuke"?

Anyways, that blog is not important because it is attacking the concept behind any automated SEO software and the guy seems to have his own vested interest of selling an eBook or something... it really has nothing to do with comparing brute force seo with senuke.

@James: Yea that's fine, you're still entitled to your opinion and you very well could be a genuinely nice guy trying to post an unbiased opinion. But the fact that you're Pete's friend just stood out to me so I thought I'd share that knowledge with the rest of the folks reading this, nothing personal.

When you post a web address the forum automagically converts it to SEO titles.

I liked that SE Nuke post mentioned above because it makes a valid point. You do not need automation software to rank well. Not BFSEO or SENUKE. Also people often use very easy to rank for terms when they offer examples of SEO.

I might know peter but we are fierce competitors on the SEO battlefield. You are wasting your time pointing out to other posters who knows who unless you do it for every contributor.

You have 9 posts in this forum (under this name) and you could be anybody for all we know - so are you being biased? You seem to be quick to jump on anything that counters your anti-Brute stance. Who are you really?

ymon · 11-02-2008, 09:55 AM

I am using SENUKE it works perfect

James Schramko · 11-02-2008, 10:02 AM

I have compared the account creators between the two and SE Nuke is better because it verifies for you. The new BFSeo one is coming out soon - I'll compare again when it comes out.

tommyp · 11-02-2008, 06:26 PM

That's true. When you post a link it automatically anchor text links it to the title of the that page.

That blog has no merit, because it is judging that it sucks based upon the fact that you can do the same thing by hand. Totally stupid.

No one says you can't. Even Pete with his software says you can do it by hand, but this software makes it much easier and although I have a couple of beefs with the limitations of SENuke, overall it works quite well and save a load of time.

By limitations I mean as one example, the random feature in SENuke. Randomization is overrated. It should be there but it should also go through your alternate titles etc., in sequence. Because, if you give it say 10 different titles to name your sites and you are doing 10 sites it may not give each a unique name but rather it very well may pick the same 2 or 3 out of the 10 titles you gave and 3 of your ten will have the exact same title,a nd another 3 and the other 4 too.

It would be better that it went in sequence, and THEN (if you have more sites than titles) it would then pick at random. So, if you wanted and were doing 10 sites, you could just pick 10 titles and it would name each one uniquely.

It also is anal about forcing you to put numbers in titles. Maybe it could alert you but in that sense it behaves like MS software. It should be up to the individual how they want to name their sites, etc., and be the user's responsibility.

Apparently it also used to have the option to interlink sites and then was removed. I also think that should be back in and be up to the user whether they want to do that or not.

I like it a lot though. And there are fixes and updates that come out regularly.

JeanetteatBeach · 12-17-2008, 11:08 AM

Run like the wind from Brute Force - buggy is an understatement. They issued a new version that doesn't work at all. Get no help, Instructions are from old software and there are no refunds even though the system doesn't work at all.
Run..

James Schramko · 12-17-2008, 11:16 AM

Update - I am finding SENuke to be the most effective.

DonDavis · 12-17-2008, 10:00 PM

SENuke is the business.

jinmin · 12-22-2008, 06:06 PM

SENuke is fantastic ! Both the software and the support is far better than BFS.

James Schramko · 12-24-2008, 05:26 AM

Well I took BFseo (updated version) out for a run today and it was very smooth. I like how it interlinks the different accounts together. This is more strategic than the SEnuke.

I like them both.

JohnSpangler · 12-24-2008, 08:49 AM

Hi Everyone,

Thank you very much for your reviews, I had tried BFSEO every month that the software has been rereleased and unfortunately, in my opinion, I haven't been able to get the software to work very well- for me, I contacted support almost a half a dozen times and still no word back to my questions.

I really liked the idea and I have over 35 clients that I thought the software would do very well to rank on the search engines for the different keywords by creating this "mini network" but for me that hasn't happend. Just this last time the rerelease hit Dec 13 I believe, I joined one more time because of the rerelease and still I didn't find the software helpful for me, I also tried contacting support again letting them know I understand they may be inundated with support emails but that I had tried a half dozen times to contact them for help and they haven't replied-PLEASE RESPOND-if nothing else than to let me know you had received my support email-no response.

Oh well- in my opinion I think they were very worried about making sure that they had an ability to shut a person's account off first and foremost who didn't pay rather than making sure the support and software were working correctly.

I don't know Pete, I do know that he's had quite a following and I wish him the best and will believe eventually he may get the system working till them I am on the sidelines.

I did sign up for SEO Nuke and believe that this solution has worked very well for me, the support was fast and the account creator very good as well. I'll keep you posted on the seonuke as I continue to use this software.

James thanks for your insight as well.

Happy Holidays everyone!!!

John

James Schramko · 12-24-2008, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnSpangler

Hi Everyone,

Thank you very much for your reviews, I had tried BFSEO every month that the software has been rereleased and unfortunately, in my opinion, I haven't been able to get the software to work very well- for me, I contacted support almost a half a dozen times and still no word back to my questions.

I really liked the idea and I have over 35 clients that I thought the software would do very well to rank on the search engines for the different keywords by creating this "mini network" but for me that hasn't happend. Just this last time the rerelease hit Dec 13 I believe, I joined one more time because of the rerelease and still I didn't find the software helpful for me, I also tried contacting support again letting them know I understand they may be inundated with support emails but that I had tried a half dozen times to contact them for help and they haven't replied-PLEASE RESPOND-if nothing else than to let me know you had received my support email-no response.

Oh well- in my opinion I think they were very worried about making sure that they had an ability to shut a person's account off first and foremost who didn't pay rather than making sure the support and software were working correctly.

I don't know Pete, I do know that he's had quite a following and I wish him the best and will believe eventually he may get the system working till them I am on the sidelines.

I did sign up for SEO Nuke and believe that this solution has worked very well for me, the support was fast and the account creator very good as well. I'll keep you posted on the seonuke as I continue to use this software.

James thanks for your insight as well.

Happy Holidays everyone!!!

John

John you will find SENUKE much easier to use and it has Kick butt features like the auto account creation and confirm built in!

JohnSpangler · 12-24-2008, 12:26 PM

Hi James,

Thanks for the follow up, I appreciate your input.

I look forward to using SENUke, to bad about BFSEO b/c that looked like a really nice idea, have a great holiday!!!

John

Justin Mandel · 12-24-2008, 01:16 PM

I saw that on that other Blog someone gave the point of buying SEOelite for a one time fee of $167 instead of paying $97 a month for SENuke.

Any opinions here on SEOelite VS SeNuke?

Qbiz · 12-27-2008, 04:30 PM

I cannot comment too much about Bruteforce. However, I did take up the offer for SENuke and I must say I am very impressed. I have found the software to be very intuitive and feature-rich and the support guys very responsive.

jrsencio · 12-27-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

Well I took BFseo (updated version) out for a run today and it was very smooth. I like how it interlinks the different accounts together. This is more strategic than the SEnuke.

I like them both.

Inter linking for me is important... this is something that I actually do manually for SE Nuke created sites.

James Schramko · 12-27-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsencio

Inter linking for me is important... this is something that I actually do manually for SE Nuke created sites.

Yes me too,
I take the URL list and after I ping it I insert them with anchor text into various formats and re-submit.

I also collect the RSS feeds and mix them and then submit the mix.

Preben Frenning · 12-28-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Mandel

I saw that on that other Blog someone gave the point of buying SEOelite for a one time fee of $167 instead of paying $97 a month for SENuke.

Any opinions here on SEOelite VS SeNuke?

I haven't used SEO Elite, but I own and use SeNuke.
As for comparing the price, I'm not sure they can be compared in any way, other than being seo tools.

SeNuke is a social submission software ( And a lot more!), but as far as I know, SEO Elite is more of an SEO optimizer.

So SEO Elite is mostly on-page optimization, but SE Nuke is off-page.

- Preben

ademartin · 01-23-2009, 08:23 PM

Just to add my 2c,

I have used both and Peter Drew's Bruteforce SEO should still be in beta and not charging people $137 per month for what is useless software.

SENuke is superb and issues get fixed promptly and professionally without being constantly told the stock answer, "Don't sweat it".

Bruteforce SEO, apart from the moderator Karen and a member called Bill who are both exceedingly helpful, was an atrocious customer experience. The Bruteforce SEO sales page is something like a lawyer, full of lies and half truths. I did a blog post on the comparison between Bruteforce SEO and SENuke and it turned out so one sided it looks like I am a shareholder for SENuke LOL

Dixie · 01-29-2009, 08:20 AM

Thanks everyone for your input to this thread. I found it really valuable and it has saved me a ton of money.

Dixie

Bruce Hearder · 01-29-2009, 08:23 AM

SENuke is great..

Works very well.. Heaps better than anything else I used so far, sure beats the opposition hands down..

Take care

Bruce

freudianslip27 · 01-29-2009, 09:07 AM

I've been using automated software now for 3+ years and i've never seen a team of support more dedicated to keeping SENuke running well. There are so many variables they have to deal with, and the service is top notch.

I've used both and SENuke wipes the floor with Bruteforce, not even a contest in my opinion.

Matt

tommyp · 01-29-2009, 09:23 AM

Yea SENuke may have its quirks but so does any software of this type that needs to be updated as things change, but they have updates very often and customer service has been good in my experience. It's pretty cool. If you are making money with your promotions the monthly fee is a non issue.

mick535 · 01-29-2009, 11:06 AM

I have been using SENuke since August and I originally wrote a review on it then and I occassionally add updates to it as the service changes.

I use SENuke as one of 5 total Marketing software products I own to promote my websites. It is almost a total Web 2.0 solution. I haven't really pushed the envelope with the Video promotions because I use Tube Automator and Video Blaster pro for that.

I tried the BruteForceSEO trial and immediately canceled. I think it has a lot of potential, but maybe should have been developed more before it was released.

Here is my original SENuke Review:

SENuke Review: Can SE Nuke Really Deliver? | Black Hat Software

Thanks,

Mike

Justin_nzpcs · 01-30-2009, 06:22 PM

I didn't buy Petes BFS because I have brought several of his wso via this forum before and found that a lot of the software stopped working or that the promised additions never arrived

Google bomber
Rss submitter

being just a few that Crapped out the rss submitter promised to submit to 20
sites yet last time I used it it had had only 5 working.

I got yahoo360 submitter this worked but the formatting was awful

I finally came up with a better solution using five programs
Article Post Robot
Bookmarking Demon
Howies evil pinger
Jonathon Leger Article Wizard Pro and auto social marker

these combined with proxy lists have produced better results than the previous programs of petes I tried before plus they don't have the bugs

I can't comment on Senuke never tried it but after spending close to $500 dollars to get the software I mentioned above I probably never will

shorwood · 01-30-2009, 09:43 PM

I tried Brute Force SEO and it did not work at all. I followed everything exactly, but I received no rankings whatsoever, and I was targeting low competition keywords.

I canceled my subscription right before the trial finished. I just came across SEnuke just over a week ago, and I did the trial to see how well it worked. Like any software there are always a few bugs, and the Web 2.0 sites are always changing, so there are short periods of time when the software can't submit to a few of the sites. However, it usually has over 80% success rate, and I am usually having a 100% success rate. The support is amazing, and they are constantly adding to the software, so it is always improving. Everything it promises to do, it actually does. I am very impressed with the software.

In the trial week I made $80 from my submissions, which almost paid for the first month, and I hadn't even paid for the software yet. If you want proof that I am impressed, you can visit the SEnuke forum. I have been active there and stated my successes.

I have dominated the first 3 pages of Google for multiple keywords for multiple products I am promoting, and I haven't even had it for two weeks. I have been marketing very aggressively with it, and I have achieved great results.

Here is a page with my review of it, and also the bonuses I am offering for it: SEnuke Review And Bonuses

mick535, you have a link there that says SEnuke is a black hat software, but it's not. It is only black hat if you use it as a black hat software. It just automates tasks that you can do manually. It isn't meant as a black hat tool. (although I use it as one)

hbsjcd3 · 02-01-2009, 06:38 PM

I have been a Brute Force member since it launched and although it indeed has a few bugs that annoyingly pop up all the time, the software does what it advertisers.

I joined SENuke 3 weeks ago and must say, the software is much smoother that Brute Force and is packed with more features that make huge difference.

In all fairness to Bruteforce's shortcomings however, SE Nuke does have a 6 month head start on the software. (Bruteforce released its software 6 months after SENUKE), so it has ahd more time to iron out the "kinks".

Right now, SENUKE's interface is much more professionally looking, has much crisper execution and is less buggy that Bruteforce. Bruteforce however, has a much better tool for keyword research, called "My GoldTracker" which to me, pays for the membership alone. Its and awesome tool that saves a heap of time in finding worthwhile niches to target.

However, since I have 27 blogs and 16 websites running that are making me money, I can afford to get BOTH services, simply because, the sites that they submit to, are different. So in my linking strategy I use both software programs to complement each other, by spending an extra hour or so after each "group" submission to interlink the group of sites from both programs together, thereby, giving all sites in both programs awesome link juice to start.

However, if I were new to this and wanted the best software and didn't have that much money to blow, I would choose:

1) One of Peter Drew's ebooks that explain very well his Web 2.0 interlinking strategy

then

2) I would join the SENUKE program to start..... then once I get the full feel for SEnuke and its capabilities, and most importantly, making at least $1000/month......I would then invest some of that money in

3) BRUTEFORCE SEO

In summary,

I think both software programs are complimentary and one should not use one over the other. If you are already making a decent income, you should employ both of these SEO domination tools, SENUKE and Bruteforce.

However, I you are just starting and can't afford to lose money while you get your "feet wet" , the SENUKE should be the first program membership to join, once you get Peter Drew's ebooks.

shorwood · 02-01-2009, 06:51 PM

You say that SEnuke has a 6 month head start, but on Brute Force SEO's sales page they state that:

"This software is the culmination of over Three YEARS of R & D, and has been worked on by a team of Two Master's Degree level and Two PHD level programmers."

So they have been working on it for longer than SEnuke, and they are saying that it should basically be perfect, which it isn't. From what they say on their sales page it shouldn't have hardly any bugs whatsoever, but it does, and it has more than SEnuke.

When I used Brute Force SEO I didn't see any results whatsoever, however when I tried SEnuke I made $100 my first week of submissions. I tried BFSEO about a month ago, so it has probably improved since then, but I am going to wait a while before I bother trying it again, especially since SEnuke keeps adding more features.

And they do overlap to what they submit to, so they are not completely separate, however I may end up trying out Brute Force SEO again in a month or so.

I am not trying to put down Brute Force SEO, but I just didn't get any results when I tried it.

hbsjcd3 · 02-01-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorwood

You say that SEnuke has a 6 month head start, but on Brute Force SEO's sales page they state that:

"This software is the culmination of over Three YEARS of R & D, and has been worked on by a team of Two Master's Degree level and Two PHD level programmers."

So they have been working on it for longer than SEnuke, and they are saying that it should basically be perfect, which it isn't. From what they say on their sales page it shouldn't have hardly any bugs whatsoever, but it does, and it has more than SEnuke.

Well, thats true, but nothing replaces the real-world testing of over 800-900 customers using the software on a daily basis. All software companies, routinely work for years on ideas and programs, but its not until the software is released into the real world, that they can perfect the product and iron out the kinks that will work in all environments, all browsers, all platforms and all types software that already exist in computers.

Like I said SEnuke is better for a variety reasons, already mentioned right now. But if you already make a decent income online, I would get both...its just me. I like to dominate my niche markets

shorwood · 02-01-2009, 08:20 PM

I do as well. I have starting to dominate the niche markets I am in, but I am also fairly new to internet marketing, and I am achieving good results with SEnuke, so I am going to stick with it for now.

Like I said, in a month or so I will try Brute Force SEO again and then hopefully they will have worked out even more of the bugs and it will be even more effective for me. Until then, I am going to stick with SEnuke, as it has done well for me so far.

jomark3 · 02-02-2009, 11:28 AM

Great posts! My mind is made up - Thanks for the good information and honest opinions!

saulyd · 02-03-2009, 11:38 AM

Thanks everyone for your input, Im off to get my trial!

Cheers!
Don

10-20-2008, 07:19 AM	#1
Angela Neo HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 469 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Hi I'd like to seek some opinions on the ratings of the two... I know there are 2 separate threads about the 2 software but I'm wondering if anyone has tried both and could give an objective comparison in terms of results. I think they are quite similar so I would assume having one of them is sufficient, unless someone has more insight about this. Thanks

10-21-2008, 06:38 PM	#2
donnyh Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , Canada. Posts: 36 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SEnuke hands down. No offence to Pete but SEnuke is 100 times less buggy, supports a ton more features, the user interface doesn't look like a child designed it and supports better websites. Just my 2 cents.
	Donny Hastings

10-21-2008, 08:31 PM	#3
napoleonfirst Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 916 Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SENUke is really cool with a lot of features. Cool program.

10-22-2008, 02:08 AM	#4
Angela Neo HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 469 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Yeah I'm having issues with Bruteforce's support system.. sent in a support ticket like 4 or 5 days ago... not a word from them. I do think bruteforce has lots of potential but it needs to have better support for a $97 subscription

10-22-2008, 04:37 PM	#5
stevorino HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: , , USA. Posts: 327 Thanks: 5 Thanked 46 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke There is another thread about this here: Anyone having great success with Brute Force SEO? My personal opinion is that Bruteforce SEO gets a big thumbs down for myself and my customers who ask for my reviews. Go with SENuke. Bruteforce SEO It isn't worth $97.00 a month. There are reasons beyond the buggy software that aren't appropriate to discuss here, but beware.
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10-23-2008, 09:31 PM	#6
Jerry Mcvictor Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,053 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 64 Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SEnuke is a wonderful piece of software. I really love it when software works the way it's advertised, and Senuke does that and then some. The latest upgrade is awesome. I never get bored watching the new submission window. The blinking red, blue and green...I haven't seen my wife since.

10-24-2008, 02:16 AM	#8
kkchoon Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Online World... Posts: 2,920 Thanks: 96 Thanked 521 Times in 266 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I am using SENuke, so far so good, but you need some SEO and article skills to use it correctly...
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10-24-2008, 02:33 AM	#9
SaSeoPete Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cape Town & Sydney Posts: 649 Thanks: 218 Thanked 76 Times in 58 Posts Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke FOr some reason it won't let me join. When I try and sign up I get Your IP is blocked??? Has this happened to anyone else? I emailed them but have had no reply.

10-26-2008, 01:27 PM	#11
Preben Frenning Creative Kid War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 653 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 125 Thanked 63 Times in 51 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I haven't used Brute SEO, but I use SeNuke, and I like it. I haven't used it to it's full potential yet, but I'm starting to see many different social bookamrking links showing up in the Se's now. However, if you go with SeNuke, remember to get uniqueness above 30%. Seriously! Taking a few minutes extra to do this can make you go from 1 to 20 pages showing up in the search engines!
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10-30-2008, 04:22 PM	#12
getmorebuyers HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 103 Thanks: 4 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Both of them are good for internet marketing savvy individuals. it does come with a learning curve for newbies.
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10-31-2008, 03:40 AM	#13
Preben Frenning Creative Kid War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 653 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 125 Thanked 63 Times in 51 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Yeah, SeNuke is best for advanced internet marketers. I don't think a newbie would have any clue about what to do in the beginning. I have recently started using it, and I see several links to me on the first pages on google.
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10-31-2008, 04:47 AM	#14
wizlor Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Sound like SeNuke wins hands down.

10-31-2008, 08:30 AM	#15
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 133 Thanked 422 Times in 199 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I am testing them both and the auto social, article video account creator add-on for the BF SEO package works quite well. Will update as I move through it.
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11-01-2008, 01:41 PM	#17
askloz DailyTradingSystem.com War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,766 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 151 Thanked 262 Times in 205 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Someone doesn't agree that SENuke is good. SENuke - SE Nuke
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11-01-2008, 06:06 PM	#18
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 133 Thanked 422 Times in 199 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Donny, I think looking up the background of people who post in this forum is pretty good due diligence. I have no problem with that. When I make posts in public I do so with full transparency. I first met Peter online when I noticed his blogposts in an SEO competition that we were both competing in. I have exchanged ideas and opinions with him since then and I would say we have a good friendship. Yes I went to his house once. I was there presenting to a group of warriors on the subject of traffic at a recent Warrior Forum get together. A group of warriors also went to dinner in full public view at a local restaurant. In this thread I have not posted a glowing testimonial, I just mentioned the auto account creator works for me since this is one of the slowest aspects of social bookmarking-creating all those accounts. When I ran the software I was delighted with the level of automation and how it can save time. Importantly, I am a full paying customer just like anyone else with BruteforceSEO so I feel that I am entitled to comment on my experience with the product. Peter has never asked me to comment on his product. So far it is working. I did mention in my review that I am comparing it back to back with SENuke and I'll be posting further comments. I'm not compromised by others in my opinion of products. I have personally met and travelled with many of the big name marketers and I never promote products or services that don't meet my standards. I checked the rules: 2. If you post your opinion on a product it must be longer than "it sucks" or "it's great". We're looking for intelligent feedback and reasons why you feel the way you do, good or bad. 3. Do not attack nor give your opinion about the product creator. This forum is about product reviews, not the people who create the products. 4. In general, just use common sense and don't come in here just to bash products created by people you may not like. Again, we are looking for intelligent reviews so people can be helped in making a decision one way or the other. I couldn't find anything that says you can't post if you've ever met the product creator.
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11-02-2008, 09:55 AM	#21
ymon Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I am using SENUKE it works perfect

11-02-2008, 10:02 AM	#22
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 133 Thanked 422 Times in 199 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I have compared the account creators between the two and SE Nuke is better because it verifies for you. The new BFSeo one is coming out soon - I'll compare again when it comes out.
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11-02-2008, 06:26 PM	#23
tommyp Coming Down w/ Tourette's War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 516 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke That's true. When you post a link it automatically anchor text links it to the title of the that page. That blog has no merit, because it is judging that it sucks based upon the fact that you can do the same thing by hand. Totally stupid. No one says you can't. Even Pete with his software says you can do it by hand, but this software makes it much easier and although I have a couple of beefs with the limitations of SENuke, overall it works quite well and save a load of time. By limitations I mean as one example, the random feature in SENuke. Randomization is overrated. It should be there but it should also go through your alternate titles etc., in sequence. Because, if you give it say 10 different titles to name your sites and you are doing 10 sites it may not give each a unique name but rather it very well may pick the same 2 or 3 out of the 10 titles you gave and 3 of your ten will have the exact same title,a nd another 3 and the other 4 too. It would be better that it went in sequence, and THEN (if you have more sites than titles) it would then pick at random. So, if you wanted and were doing 10 sites, you could just pick 10 titles and it would name each one uniquely. It also is anal about forcing you to put numbers in titles. Maybe it could alert you but in that sense it behaves like MS software. It should be up to the individual how they want to name their sites, etc., and be the user's responsibility. Apparently it also used to have the option to interlink sites and then was removed. I also think that should be back in and be up to the user whether they want to do that or not. I like it a lot though. And there are fixes and updates that come out regularly.
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12-17-2008, 11:08 AM	#24
JeanetteatBeach Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Run like the wind from Brute Force - buggy is an understatement. They issued a new version that doesn't work at all. Get no help, Instructions are from old software and there are no refunds even though the system doesn't work at all. Run..

12-17-2008, 11:16 AM	#25
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 133 Thanked 422 Times in 199 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Update - I am finding SENuke to be the most effective.
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12-17-2008, 10:00 PM	#26
DonDavis Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Illinois USA. Posts: 704 Thanks: 40 Thanked 77 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SENuke is the business.

12-22-2008, 06:06 PM	#27
jinmin HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PJ Posts: 438 Thanks: 24 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SENuke is fantastic ! Both the software and the support is far better than BFS.
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12-24-2008, 05:26 AM	#28
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 133 Thanked 422 Times in 199 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Well I took BFseo (updated version) out for a run today and it was very smooth. I like how it interlinks the different accounts together. This is more strategic than the SEnuke. I like them both.
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12-24-2008, 08:49 AM	#29
JohnSpangler HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster PA Posts: 353 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 25 Thanked 420 Times in 53 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Hi Everyone, Thank you very much for your reviews, I had tried BFSEO every month that the software has been rereleased and unfortunately, in my opinion, I haven't been able to get the software to work very well- for me, I contacted support almost a half a dozen times and still no word back to my questions. I really liked the idea and I have over 35 clients that I thought the software would do very well to rank on the search engines for the different keywords by creating this "mini network" but for me that hasn't happend. Just this last time the rerelease hit Dec 13 I believe, I joined one more time because of the rerelease and still I didn't find the software helpful for me, I also tried contacting support again letting them know I understand they may be inundated with support emails but that I had tried a half dozen times to contact them for help and they haven't replied-PLEASE RESPOND-if nothing else than to let me know you had received my support email-no response. Oh well- in my opinion I think they were very worried about making sure that they had an ability to shut a person's account off first and foremost who didn't pay rather than making sure the support and software were working correctly. I don't know Pete, I do know that he's had quite a following and I wish him the best and will believe eventually he may get the system working till them I am on the sidelines. I did sign up for SEO Nuke and believe that this solution has worked very well for me, the support was fast and the account creator very good as well. I'll keep you posted on the seonuke as I continue to use this software. James thanks for your insight as well. Happy Holidays everyone!!! John
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12-24-2008, 12:26 PM	#31
JohnSpangler HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster PA Posts: 353 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 25 Thanked 420 Times in 53 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Hi James, Thanks for the follow up, I appreciate your input. I look forward to using SENUke, to bad about BFSEO b/c that looked like a really nice idea, have a great holiday!!! John
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12-24-2008, 01:16 PM	#32
Justin Mandel Trust Establisher War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,968 Thanks: 526 Thanked 170 Times in 127 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I saw that on that other Blog someone gave the point of buying SEOelite for a one time fee of $167 instead of paying $97 a month for SENuke. Any opinions here on SEOelite VS SeNuke?
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12-27-2008, 04:30 PM	#33
Qbiz Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London, UK. Posts: 53 Thanks: 8 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I cannot comment too much about Bruteforce. However, I did take up the offer for SENuke and I must say I am very impressed. I have found the software to be very intuitive and feature-rich and the support guys very responsive.

01-23-2009, 08:23 PM	#37
ademartin Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 99 Thanks: 26 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Just to add my 2c, I have used both and Peter Drew's Bruteforce SEO should still be in beta and not charging people $137 per month for what is useless software. SENuke is superb and issues get fixed promptly and professionally without being constantly told the stock answer, "Don't sweat it". Bruteforce SEO, apart from the moderator Karen and a member called Bill who are both exceedingly helpful, was an atrocious customer experience. The Bruteforce SEO sales page is something like a lawyer, full of lies and half truths. I did a blog post on the comparison between Bruteforce SEO and SENuke and it turned out so one sided it looks like I am a shareholder for SENuke LOL

01-29-2009, 08:20 AM	#38
Dixie Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Thanks everyone for your input to this thread. I found it really valuable and it has saved me a ton of money. Dixie

01-29-2009, 08:23 AM	#39
Bruce Hearder Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perth, Australia. Posts: 717 Thanks: 4 Thanked 182 Times in 138 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke SENuke is great.. Works very well.. Heaps better than anything else I used so far, sure beats the opposition hands down.. Take care Bruce
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01-29-2009, 09:07 AM	#40
freudianslip27 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,315 Thanks: 26 Thanked 176 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I've been using automated software now for 3+ years and i've never seen a team of support more dedicated to keeping SENuke running well. There are so many variables they have to deal with, and the service is top notch. I've used both and SENuke wipes the floor with Bruteforce, not even a contest in my opinion. Matt
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01-29-2009, 09:23 AM	#41
tommyp Coming Down w/ Tourette's War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 516 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke Yea SENuke may have its quirks but so does any software of this type that needs to be updated as things change, but they have updates very often and customer service has been good in my experience. It's pretty cool. If you are making money with your promotions the monthly fee is a non issue.
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01-29-2009, 11:06 AM	#42
mick535 Michael Johnson War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 826 Thanks: 18 Thanked 80 Times in 57 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I have been using SENuke since August and I originally wrote a review on it then and I occassionally add updates to it as the service changes. I use SENuke as one of 5 total Marketing software products I own to promote my websites. It is almost a total Web 2.0 solution. I haven't really pushed the envelope with the Video promotions because I use Tube Automator and Video Blaster pro for that. I tried the BruteForceSEO trial and immediately canceled. I think it has a lot of potential, but maybe should have been developed more before it was released. Here is my original SENuke Review: SENuke Review: Can SE Nuke Really Deliver? \| Black Hat Software Thanks, Mike
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01-30-2009, 06:22 PM	#43
Justin_nzpcs Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I didn't buy Petes BFS because I have brought several of his wso via this forum before and found that a lot of the software stopped working or that the promised additions never arrived Google bomber Rss submitter being just a few that Crapped out the rss submitter promised to submit to 20 sites yet last time I used it it had had only 5 working. I got yahoo360 submitter this worked but the formatting was awful I finally came up with a better solution using five programs Article Post Robot Bookmarking Demon Howies evil pinger Jonathon Leger Article Wizard Pro and auto social marker these combined with proxy lists have produced better results than the previous programs of petes I tried before plus they don't have the bugs I can't comment on Senuke never tried it but after spending close to $500 dollars to get the software I mentioned above I probably never will

01-30-2009, 09:43 PM	#44
shorwood Shawn Horwood War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada Posts: 192 Thanks: 10 Thanked 138 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking	Re: Bruteforce seo VS SEnuke I tried Brute Force SEO and it did not work at all. I followed everything exactly, but I received no rankings whatsoever, and I was targeting low competition keywords. I canceled my subscription right before the trial finished. I just came across SEnuke just over a week ago, and I did the trial to see how well it worked. Like any software there are always a few bugs, and the Web 2.0 sites are always changing, so there are short periods of time when the software can't submit to a few of the sites. However, it usually has over 80% success rate, and I am usually having a 100% success rate. The support is amazing, and they are constantly adding to the software, so it is always improving. Everything it promises to do, it actually does. I am very impressed with the software. In the trial week I made $80 from my submissions, which almost paid for the first month, and I hadn't even paid for the software yet. If you want proof that I am impressed, you can visit the SEnuke forum. I have been active there and stated my successes. I have dominated the first 3 pages of Google for multiple keywords for multiple products I am promoting, and I haven't even had it for two weeks. I have been marketing very aggressively with it, and I have achieved great results. Here is a page with my review of it, and also the bonuses I am offering for it: SEnuke Review And Bonuses mick535, you have a link there that says SEnuke is a black hat software, but it's not. It is only black hat if you use it as a black hat software. It just automates tasks that you can do manually. It isn't meant as a black hat tool. (although I use it as one)
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