Shounak Gupte

Got an email from Andrew about his new product "Nuclear Affiliate". Any reviews?

zigstonk

Came here looking for info too. Is this video marketing?

zigstonk
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vuwavai

Hi,

I'm also interested about the product. Looking forward for reviews as soon as it gets launched, probably on July 15, 2010.

I'd like to know how many products Andrew Fox created before and what reviews they received. It will be highly appreciated.

Is Andrew Fox related with products making High Hypes? I really have problem digesting that kind of Sales Letters with lots of HYPE. What's your experience?

I don't care much about his own creditability about being A Super Affiliate. What I care about is How he is as a Guide/Teacher/Mentor/Coach to make others Real/Super Affiliate.

Thanks.

Harlan

I just wasted $37.

I'm shocked. It's almost as if the sales letter and the product have NOTHING in common.

Understand I almost never refund on a product.

But this one looks so poor....

IM Basics.

Really disappointing.

Here's a secret... Add a bonus.

There, I gave it away.

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finallywealthy

Man I love the warrior forum...

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zigstonk

Thanks for the insight...saved me the money AND TIME!

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darrin_cooper

Harlan,

How were you able to get the product? It's not even live yet.

Also, from my understanding and insights of this product....it will be very disappointing to a lot of people. From my research, this product is EXACTLY a re-printing of his old product which was called Affiliate Millionaire.

So, all it seems like Andrew Fox did was put some new graphics to an old product. This should be an outrage to not only the people who purchase Affiliate Millionaire, but also as a sham.

Now, understandably, from my understanding the product has not launched, however, I will prove this after the 15th --based on my understanding when it does launch.

However, Harlan seems to have already purchased it. I'm not quite sure how, but, hopefully we'll get some insights into that.

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zigstonk

The email i got had a live buy button...intro price of $37.

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adaum

Here ya go Darrin... maybe Harlan does have it.

I could have it if I wanted it.

Hyped email....

I think you need to see this immediately...

Imagine getting your hands on a system today
that could dump fast cash gains into your
Clickbank account like

..$677.12

....$1063.05

.... and $1752.42 in a single day.

In as little as 48 hours from now!

I didn't belive it myself until I seen the PROOF
video on the website:

This 'Nuclear Affiliate' system is very
*CONTROVERSIAL* and I guarantee you'll
see an up roar about it very soon.

It so simple and you can get started right now!

Yada, yada, yada...

and it driveled on some more with a link to buy it...

IM Headlines

Just got it. It's not that bad considering that it's only $37,
but don't expect anything awesome. Maybe a real newbie
will find it useful, because it's basic stuff.

Cheers

foxlobo123

Nuclear Affiliate is just the digital version of affiliate millionaire

xxxJamesxxx

Well if that's true I wouldn't too happy if I was a Affiliate millionaire owner. Wasn't it a grand or something?

James

Harlan

I got an affiliate email. Site was live to me!

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j8b8ggn8ev

Thanks for saving me the time, effort and money.

Jim Dahleen

vuwavai

What I know about the product is all about List-Building technique ..... Getting people subscribed ..... huge email lists ..... brain-wash them for at least 20 products in a year ..... they will believe you.... they will treat like a Guru ..... They will purchase whatever you'd recommend ..... Bla bla bla .....

You make millions (if not Billions) of Dollars ......

Should I cry or laugh?

Can anyone say (actually WRITE) it loudly?

Daniel Brock

Yikes.....

Justin Wheeler

Lol.... I think I am going to unsubscribe from Dave Guindon's list. He keeps sending me crap like this. Worth noting that there is a $10 discount if you leave the page just in case anyone really wants it. Thats why I love this place. Full of no bull reviews.

john322

What would us noobies do without you veteran Warriors. Thanks for the reviews.

John322

ruch1v

nuclear affiliate isn't a digital version of aff millionaire, as digital affiliate millionaire is a $197 upsell

Gary Pettit

Thanks everyone...you just saved me $37. I received a couple emails today as well and glad I came here first to look for reviews

mistermint

Got the same mail

I think you need to see this immediately...

Imagine getting your hands on a system today that
could dump fast cash gains into your Clickbank
account like:

..$677.12

....$1063.05

.... and $1752.42 in a single day.

In as little as 48 hours from now!

I didn't belive it myself until I seen the PROOF video
on the website.

I think Andrew has a huge list and does a lot of JV's...hence no web site required..

What would I do with 4 Ferrari's any ways lol...

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Doiron

So I try to leave the page and get the, now all-too-familiar, request to wait and press CANCEL to see a great deal.

For fun, I decided to bite and here's the message I saw:

"Congratulations!

As I'm carrying out a secret marketing test you've randomly been selected as one of the lucky people to get a $10 discount!

Please be aware that if you try to come back to this page at a later date, chances are this page will have disappeared."

It's obviously a very stringent and exclusive marketing test. You have to press CANCEL to be randomly selected.

Honestly, how dim-witted do some of these people think we are?

fong47

I was thinking of buying but thanks for the review guys and I will keep my money instead.

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Jeremiaho

I considered buying too, but after reading this topic and thinking back on how I felt the last time I purchased something from Andrew I'm going to give this one a miss. The guy truly knows how to market and sell his products.

Pity he doesn't put more of an effort in to helping others rather than finding ways of sucking even more money out of you.

Michael Carlin

Yeah, so many products saying

"Look at my clickbank! It will be a $1000 today, because you're gonna help me fill it up!".

Thanks for the heads up, I almost believed he might have something to offer....

It's so sad, people will say anything, as long as you believe that it's a good idea to part with your money for 5-10 seconds, it's enough!

I'll wash your car, you can sleep with my sister, you can own Mars and Jupiter, and fly like that dude from Heroes.... just buy my ebook, now, buy buy buy it now!

David Walker

What I found really interesting in the Affiliate Millionaire product was the inclusion of Andrew's swipe file of email campaigns he sent out to promote about 20 products as an affiliate to earn about $1m in commissions.

Even if you don't find value in either the Nuclear Affiliate or Affiliate Millionaire product, the swipe file will surely be worth the investment for you to model your own campaigns on.

With many of these products, you only need to dig out the odd gem from the piles of fluff to make them worth your time and money.

David

My blog shows you how to make money online (don't they all?)

CanuckWarrior

How did I ever miss out on this gem?

Oh now I see ... it landed in my inbox as:

"CONFIRMED {NAME}, your first Clickbank Sale..."

Ahhh ... Guru spam at it's finest, can't even get my name right when pimping this fine stuff.

Yet another list to purge myself from.

Internet marketing is not rocket science ... unsubscribe from every guru spam list you're currently on ... they just want to rape your wallet and make you co-dependent.

himanuzo

This product claims $xx,xxx without Google. What is traffic main source of the Nuclear Affiliate for $xx,xxx without Google?

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Vitaliy K

Thanks a lot for your honest review! I just wanted to buy it, but then
took a look at your review and ... saved my money.

Steve Solem

Man I love that stuff! They have me so well trained I always go to leave a site like this just to see what kind of last ditch effort they throw out there to get my business.

Predictable, yes...but I have to think it works quite well if everyone keeps doing this.

Cheers,

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Doiron

Right you are, Steve. The people on this forum may be the only ones disturbed by this type of behavior. Sad, really. I'd like to think that these marketers would make even more money if they were more honest. Hard to tell.

A benefit to us, though, is that it gives us a standard we can use to measure the reliability of the gurus that recommend this type of stuff. If they push this drivel, we can learn to ignore other suggestions from them.

The guy who sent me this recommendation is now off my list, which is disappointing since he's coming out with a product soon that was interesting to me.

ruch1v

Well that doesn't makes sense, sounds like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face

Doiron

ruch1v - The key word is "was". Now that I know his methods, I'm giving his products a pass. It had been something that sounded quite appealing but I realize now that the odds of him delivering on his projections are slim.

So when I say it "was interesting to me" what I really meant to say was that it "was interesting to me".

No "cutting off noses" here. Saving them, I'd say.

I just got an email from another "guru" pushing Nuclear Affiliate. This was a guy who I also trusted once upon a time, partly because he was supposed to be a religious fellow. That still means something to me.

But this guy supported a fellow with a very bad reputation on this very forum. Before I knew about his rep, I enrolled in a membership program of his and, some months later, couldn't cancel it. I tried submitting several support tickets, I wrote to every email address I could find, but all to no avail. Finally, I wrote to a JV partner of his and that fellow managed to persuade the criminal to let me cancel. Never got a refund for the months I was running in place however.

Then the "religious" guy started pushing another internet marketer whom I bought a product from. This guy took approximately 80 times the purchase price off of my credit card - no joke - and refused to refund it.

VISA recognized it as fraud and reversed the charge.

So call me sensitive, but I think I'll drop people like that from my list of trusted suppliers.

It's a very, very, short list.

davemiz

love the posts... everyones bashing this (and other products), yet most haven't even bought the stuff, and more importantly, USED the stuff.

I haven't seen the product so i can't comment on it, good or bad, but like David Walker said... you just need to find ONE gem in any product and go out and USE it to make it worthwhile...

the product could be 99% crap... but if theres ONE idea i can use that makes me money, or improves my business, then its worthwhile.

I like to buy a lot of stuff, because as a marketer, i want to see HOW others are marketing.... maybe they're doing stuff i'm not that i should be....

and guess what? the best way to do this is to buy stuff and check out the backend, the emails, the product, etc.

At the end of the day, its not the product, its what you DO with the product.

and as great as harlan is.... i'm sure he's put out some 'dud' products in his day.

From reading the posts, its seems like you guys are looking for the long lost 'magic bullet' and sadly, its called hard work.

Dave Miz

Doiron

Hi Dave - I would agree with you if we had an unlimited supply of money to draw upon to buy products. But, since most of us don't. we are forced to pick and choose and prioritize the items on our wish list.

We may well get a smidgen of value from Product A, but if we can get a multiple of that from Product B, and if we only have X amount of dollars to spend right now ... well, it's an easy decision.

Why bother with a product that's "99% crap" if we can buy something that's only 50% crap, or even 80%?

I don't think that has anything at all to do with avoiding hard work. Looking back over the posts I can't see much sign of that.

It's doing due diligence and working smart.

And it has the valuable side effects of discouraging the production of crap while rewarding good creators and good service.

LarryC

This has become such an old tactic by now it must only work with complete newbies. To me this in itself discredits the product, though maybe that's a little too harsh. I just don't like it when someone doesn't want to let you leave their sales page.

Btw, thanks for the honest reviews. It's good to be able to learn the truth, though it's a little depressing that so few of these products come close to matching the hype.

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LarryC

Regarding the idea that you can always find one or two useful ideas in products like this, that's probably true, but you don't have to spend $37 for that. You can find that information for free easily enough, or in lower priced WSOs. If the sales page promises you breakthrough "secrets" of making several hundred per day within 48 hours and all they give you is some Internet Marketing 101 info that you could find in hundreds of articles on Ezinearticles or other sites, then it isn't a good value even for $37.

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pavionjsl

I agree, money for a lot of people is tighter and the hoping to get 1 piece of info is crazy. Value is important, and better idea's are what everyone is looking to buy not repackaged information with better or different graphics.

davemiz

agreed... but... you look at the most successful people, and they're buying stuff like crazy... again, its what you do with it.

we all know most ppl don't do anything with it.

Heck I AM one of those ppl. sometimes I'll go through an entire course, sometimes I'll just open it, check it out quickly and thats it.

you might find one email in the backend that you can swipe and model for your business.... that one email might generate thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dollars...

for me, as a marketer, if something is making me 'want' to buy something, i'm looking at *why* and what can I do similarly with my stuff.... especially if the product is IN the market i'm selling in.

but heck, maybe the bigger problem is you're worrying about spending $37... thats not a lot of money to invest in your business, whether its this product, a software product, or any product....

if/when that starts getting into my head, i start thinking of what i need to do to make more money... so spending that much isn't an issue.

Dave Miz

Doiron

At the time of this writing there are 60 WSOs available on the first page of the Warrior Special Offers Forum and there are 202 pages.

And most of those offers are priced to sell - most of them probably under $37. And a lot of them are accompanied by brilliant sales copy and testimonials. Mouth watering.

Somewhere around 12,000 of those plus the dozen or more pitches I get each day in my mailbox. Most of them carefully designed to look appealing.

I'll bet that we can learn something - a morsel of valuable information - from the majority of them.

Are you going to buy all of them?

Of course not. We prioritize and pick items we think (and hope) will help.

Aside from the costs involved, there would also be the wasted time exploring each of the offers.

If you look at something and it makes you want to buy it, then, by all means, buy it.

Most of us posting on this thread haven't expressed that attraction to Nuclear Affiliate. Based on the above comments, I suspect that most of us would pass if it cost as little as $10.

affhelper

Well, I am going to make my comment here.

If you guys haven't noticed most IM products are targeting
newbies and maybe intermediate marketers. Why? because they
sell well. The thing is that a newbie will learn some effective
stuff from those products and if he/she takes action it will work
for them.

Saying "nothing new here" or "this is just rehashed info" is like
telling Wendy's not to sell cheeseburgers because McDonald's is
already selling them.

By the way, I learned something new from his Affiliate Millionaire
product which I thought was a very well put together course.

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Ken Strong

Let's get back to actual reviews of the product now, if there are any.

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Doiron

I would like to express my gratitude to the people who posted their thoughts on this very valuable thread.

This is just my personal opinion, of course, but this type of information serves as an education to both potential buyers and the product creators.

Just another example of why I enjoy the Warrior Forum.

Like that great philosopher, Fabio, once said (and I'm paraphrasing because I can't remember it exactly): "The world is a beautiful place because it's filled with so many colors."

neodarth

The main feature of Nuclear Affiliate (as well as nearly all Andrew Fox's products) is focused on how to set up an email campaign.

Newbies can learn a big deal with this, and I mean a BIG deal, on how to comunicate with your list. Although I'm not so newbie (well... yes I'm still green) I've learn a couple of useful tricks with Nuclear Affiliate.

The downside is there is no much on how to drive traffic to your squeeze page to actually build your list.

If I can get one or two tips from a product that works for me, then there is no need for ask for refund.

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probizlink

Thank You for saving my hard earned money!!

Metro123

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Gardenbella

I did end up buying the product and I can't say I'm that impressed. The one thing that bothered me a lot is in doing a demo on Clickbank he used video he had made in 2008! I'm all about recycling but it was just a tad annoying to see a screen shot that isn't current and for anyone new trying to figure this out they wouldn't know what was going on.

petec

ss1c

It's funny. From what I hear, this course is supposed to teach people what to do with their list. you know how I found out about it? I got an unsolicited email from someone I never heard of with no opt out info. In the "to" field was my email adress with about 5 others. I went to the site intending to file a spam complaint. Guess what? No contact form. the sales page says secured by clickbank (among others), so I complained to clickbank. guess what? They said it is not actually a clickbank product. i went back to look, clicked on the sales link, and guess what? Right - it is not handled "securely by clickbank". It is a form asking me form my information, and not even a secure form at that. they do offer payment by paypal, so I entered a complaint there.

This guy actually makes money? I will do a review on my site and make sure my 2 whole readers never buy this product. lol

***edit - I tried another link and it actually does go to CB. interesting... Same site though, all the way down to the typo "extremely shocking and definitelynot"