writetale

thanks, zed.... i did not know that about the cloaker..... so there is NO WAY they can pick you off? w-o-w.

and yes, the demographic heads up (a reminder in some cases) was truly priceless.

for $39??! all day long.

ps. the sales letter is probably working against them from what i can read. i almost passed the whole thing up. only the car-boat-house approach would have made it the absolute worst....

hawkhill88

Thank you for posting the fact that this system involves FB fraud, and apparently also involves fraudulent advertising, because it doesn't do what it says it does. You know, this is exactly the kind of thing that makes people see IM'ers as the 2010 version of snake oil salesmen.

The sales letters start by hustling the IM people who buy them. Then the software or pdf they're selling shows the buyer how to use sleazy tactics to get traffic, build links or dupe people into buying things with hype and hyperbole or just downright lying.

You have to wonder if these famous gurus are so feeble that they can't sell anything to anyone without being devious and using tactics that wouldn't fool a smart fourth grader for very long. Scarcity, my eye. Nothing is scarce on the internet except integrity amongst internet marketers who sell systems to game the other systems.

excoder01

Ya, if you guys want long-term traffic -- follow the Whitehat, the legal way that won't get you banned for stupid reasons. I can't believe Clickbank would allow such a fraud traffic method generation.

It's tactics like these why FB will hate Internet marketers, in much the same way are banning thin affiliate sites providing no value.

It comes to the point where a guru can simply promote anything and tons of naive newbies will buy it. I bet if the top gurus release a buggy software and a 5-page rehashed PDF for $197 to their email list, thousands will stick flock to buy it....and actually think it was worth it!

blillard

well I decided to buy the script yes i admit it was a little misleading and I will probably get my refund. I did learn something from them though but not what i was expecting to be honest Im better off just buying a voucher for fb and testing my own way hahaha.

The upsells annoyed the heck out of me although at a $39 price I was prepared for them. Its sad when you know what to expect from these guys now days.

wso are better no skip that the war room got it on lock.

peace..

Steve Wise

I received yet another email promoting this product today with the following disclaimer at the foot: NB This is from Mike Wright (the product creator"). Another of his products was "Tweetomatic Profiteer"

Any claim made or implied by either party or parties privy to this
and all related emails concerning any and all discussions, whether
in print or verbal, regarding any future earnings or results
obtained as a direct result of the implementation of any and all
services and/or product(s) of Auto Traffic Avalanche and/ or any of
this Company's affiliate(s) or partner(s) should be perceived as
complete speculation or opinion and rendered for comparison
purposes only and should be viewed as a "reasonable estimate" and
should not be used for evaluation purposes. Under no circumstances
should any representation to any current or future earnings be
deemed as a promise, guarantee or warranty from this Company and
that any decision from you to participate or purchase any service,
course or product should be made after due diligence on the part of
the party enrolling in the same. In no uncertain terms do we
suggest you enter into any arrangement without proper research and
understanding, and that any decision to participate should never be
based upon or be the result of any promise or guarantee made
towards any and all future earnings. We absolutely make no
representation to any future earnings and we officially acknowledge
that any and all results from training, mentoring, purchase of
software and/or their implementation are direct results of an
individual's effort, understanding, implementation and personal
desire to partake in such activity and all current economic
conditions and, as with any educational platform, results will vary
and are never guaranteed. Should there be any doubt or confusion
about this Company's position on this subject, we ask that you
pause action and and email us about it.
BCR House, Gate Centre, Bredbury Pk Way, Bredbury, Stockport, SK6 2SN, UK


PS. Random related fact: He's based in my home town of Stockport!

Dan Ellenwood

I have reason to believe that Facebook is on to this script already (no, it wasn't me who told them, although I wouldn't mind if it had been me) and that a lot of campaigns set up with this script will be/are being deleted...

Aussie_Striker

Always great to be able to check out programs here first. Thanks to all the people that have responded with their experiences.

Steve Wise

It does seem strange if the product creators are exploiting a loophole that they would make it public thereby leaving themselves open to mass refunding and possible legal action.

Intrepreneur

What's all this cloaking about?? Just a redirect in reality?

Oh and did any notice this part of the sales copy..

http://autotrafficavalanche.com/images/never_made.jpg

Same as on Mobile Monopoly in the same area of the page. Irrelevant but interesting.

Chris Worner

Quite possibly the same copy writer perhaps? Either way, you would never get the hundred dollars, the same with MM.

Chris

AbizerNalwalaUK

Though the sales pitch was very much hyped, looking at the FREE traffic generation (I thought it would be done by the AUTOMATED software) & relatively low cost of the product I was kind-of hovering over the Pay button ... but I come here to the warrior forum to check out if there are any reviews about the product before I buy them. And long live warrior's and warrior forum ... I have always found 'TRUE' reviews about the product.

Surely have dropped the idea of buying it. Thanks.

Cheers!
Abizer

CianMcCarthy

The product owners will make a nice bit from this (this is where the REAL money is made)

All the more reason to start creating your own product (in whatever niche)

Valerio

I have to add two things about this, something that probably has not been told:

1) it is forbidded to place any kind of ad on FB related to money making - so 90% of ClickBank products cannot be directly advetised. However, direct linking using an affiliate link is OK on FB.

2) you don't need any script, or cloaking, or trick. You don't need to game FB at all if you want to promote something. Just use a sandwich page: a page created to offer what you promote (it could also be a post on your blog) with a big large button or link at the bottom pointing to the offer (using your affiliate link).

The reason is that FB check the link of your AD, it doesn't care what the user will do after they land on the promoted page. So, just be sure to OFFER what you say in your AD.
Example: want to promote 'how to play guitar'...? No problem. Find a free report or a video that explains how to make your very first approach on the guitar.
Place it on the sandwich page with few lines of explanations, and just below the video add a huge link: CLICK HERE TO GET A COMPLETE COURSE (for example) and link it to the offer.

Results: the ad offers what it says, the FB people check it and approve. You have chances that a user will click on it.

You play fair without gaming the system.

Regards,
Valerio

Daniel Brock

Thanks Randall, had more worried there for a sec

-Dan

Zach Booker

I have not bought this product BUT from my knowledge this is a Facebook "cloaker".

First of all, it isn't really a cloaker. I'd have to check the script given. But it's probably nothing more than a simply geo-redirect or an IP block on Facebook employees so they don't see your final landing pages.

Any script you place on your site directly is not a true cloaker.

Facebook is always adapting and growing to get around those that cloak and something like this (if it even works currently) will get you banned eventually as Facebook continues to fight those that cloak.

Secondly, this is product is both 100% against Clickbank's TOS and Facebook's TOS. For someone to actually sell a cloaker to the public (not privately like other cloakers area sold) blows my mind. If Facebook does sue they'll win, and they'll win big. I can't see why Facebook wouldn't sue either.

This is mind-blowing that Clickbank would allow this product through AND that the product owner would have the balls to really put this out there. It puts Clickbank into a vulnerable legal position, too.

Absolutely shocking.

TyCohen

#2 is a good tip, thanks for sharing

Ty

UMS

For those of you that have requested refunds, have you received them promptly?

lazaraus

I'm not happy with this product.I paid with paypal.Could someone tell me how i go about getting a refund?

GlenH

I mean how low are people stooping just to get an IM 'product' onto the market!

Just when you think you've seen it all....along comes some other cr_ _py product to take it's place.

And its seems to be getting worse.

But, I suppose while there are poor unsuspecting people still chasing the instant riches lie, this stuff will still be around

--Glen

(I figure this post will probably get pulled, but at least I've vented my spleen... )