Azlan.MY

Hi,
Auto Traffic Avalanche seems too good to be true. They claim that the traffic source doesn't involve Google, PPV, PPC....

I tried to look for reviews at Google, but all those are just affiliate reviews. Can anyone who has bought this program give some thoughts?

affiliatesuperstar

It's only just launched so I don't think you will get any reviews as to how it really works or more importantly, if it works!!

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pearsonbrown

It launched at some point yesterday. I certainly wouldn't trust any reviews at this stage - they'd almost certainly be made by affiliates with advance knowledge of the product.

I'l open up this thread again in a couple of days.

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Harlan

I bought the software.

The upsells were annoying. I said no to all of them.

And I've been racing through the product.

Without giving the essentials away, I think this is a way you could be making money online in 24-36 hours.

There are some good elements in this course that make it worth while.

I'm NOT refunding this one. I think they earned their money.

However, part of their system - though not essential - involves "gaming" facebook.

I can't recommend that at all.

But the rest of the system, very interesting material.

Worth the mini investment.

Peace.

Harlan

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thebasta

I Bought it and I think is a good product I will give it a try as soon as possible, the way to get the traffic is using 2 of the most visiting website of the world right now but the great thing is the software ....

neodarth

I'm still trying to understand where exactly lays the magic of the script... It doesn't work on my server and I have no intention on get the godaddy hosting.
Waiting for an answer of support.

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bitwise

I think the whole sales pitch was BS.

It talks about Automatic Traffic software - with just a few clicks of your mouse.

That's a CROCK!!

That software only creates cloaked pages. That's it.

The traffic part - you have to create FB and POF ads. The course teaches you how to do that.

So, how is that AUTOMATIC traffic??

I purchased, I promply requested a refund.

False advertising if you ask me. I was not a happy camper.

nushi

As I asked earlier, in the sales video, there is mention of this ever elusive $14 ... I am just curious where this number comes from? I am baffled! LOL .. I too have the course and am looking it over so nothing bad or good to say yet, but these numbers have me stumped. I did send in a ticket early on this morning after reviewing the vids etc .. with this very question. No suitable reply yet, but it's still too early to tell.

writetale

i agree with you, harlan. the sales letter ticked me off so much i had to go back and remind myself who offered me this "crap". then i said, what the heck, $39? not only does this idea play off of one of the busiest sites on the planet, but hook it up with mobile.....(have you heard ANY of the chatter yet about mobile, mobile, mobile--that's all people DO now--rudely sit on their phones, ignore the world, and live on their ipoo poo's)

i refused the upsells, too (5!)....but the basic info: priceless.

Byrt M

Harlan
Your feedback has been helpful. I have been poised over the BUY button but didn't want to end up with another IM dud (not that I am saying it is).
Thanks pal.
Byrt

Mukul Verma

I got this today.

It is not something I will be using. I do not know if I should refund it or not (as the reason I would not use it is that I dont agree with the methods gaming Facebook).

I am sure this would work and I am sure you could make money. I dont think it is for building anything that has long term results. Gaming Facebook will come to a close at some point soon.

The $14, not sure how that comes in place. They talk about using paid traffic. I got the impression that it was free traffic. Maybe it was $14 a day (as it was not clear).

Debating on if I should refund or not.

Cheers,
Mukul

tomster

Hey,

I too bought this thing...It did sound too good from the first time i watched the video, but i had to try it...

As I see it, this product is one script that they give you to install it on your server and then you can hide links from FB admins....(admins will be lead to another link than the rest of the FB comunity)...then they show you few videos about how to set FB ads and get hosting....

That's it...

I dont know where word auto comes in? maybe in some of upsells? anybody bought upsells? what are they?

Anyway, you dont get any automation that's promissed on sales page...acctually, I think that Imran says in video inside members area that you have to test,test, test ads....I agree with that, but that's not what is said on sales letter...

Also, scarcity thing is really lame...they say 234 people only will get this...yea, right, why do they have affliate contest then and first affiliate will get $5000....geez...just plain rude....

I personally wont use this script, because I think that this will lead only to blocking my facebook account...and it's really lame thing if you ask me...FB people will got on this one fast, find the solution and "glitch" will be resolved....

I'm not satisfied customer on this one..and once again I confirmed myself my theory that I shouldnt buy anythign from this guys or others mega affiliates that promote this and similar products that are just pure, plain hype...

I wouldnt buy it if i know what is about....

infinite

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I have purchased the product myself today and agree with most of what has already been said here. I'm not sure I could bring myself to actually USING the software however the other videos have forced me to at least start looking into using Facebook Ads so from that perspective it might have been worth the spend for me.

I also found the 4 or so upsells annoying and didn't purchase any of those.

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steve-wilkins

Thanks for the reviews guys,

I was on the edge of purchasing but was put off by the scarcity tactic of only 234 copies, yet they still have the an affiliate contest???

I actually received the promo from a super affiliate who can probably sell the 234 slots in just over an hour so I don't beleive this will be limited much like the last IM product I bought ''Blogging Espionage'' and I beleive it will become saturated and looking at most of your reviews I agree it will probably get my FB acount banned eventaully so I'll give it a swerve.

Thanks though guys, the WF is a great place to get honest opinions from other fellow marketers and for that I am very thankful!

dtmission

I bought the software without the upsells, but I am not very happy with it for following reasons:

a) The sales message seemed to involved some automatic way to generate software, but the real product is only based on manual advertising and tracking.

b) the ATA script tries to hide from Facebook the real advertisement and I do not think that this is an honest approach. They will soon discover it and they might ban your Facebook account.

c) The sales message seemed to suggest a very small advertising cost. The reality is that it is still paid advertising and that you must have a budget for it. I tried to publish some adverts on Facebook about guitar courses and I soon spent more than $ 60 without any conversion.

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tomster

I'm going a bit oftopic here...but..

Thing about FB ads and FB traffic in general is that specific market on FB can become very saturated at he moment and you can have great conversions one week and horrible conversions next week...

I was testing one guitar product on FB and got like 10% coversions of people who opted in...while usually for same product you get 2-3% from google...so I kept on going with it, and sales just droped, no apperent reason why, because everything stay the same, ads, product, optin page....

Reason is in audience...

How FB targets people? looks at what they wrote in their FB profiles, so if they wrote playing guitar, and you target them with your add, they will see your ad....and even they bought your product, some people just wrote that they like to play guitar, but they dont have any intention to buy anything....so, eventually, market saturates, and it sticks that way for some time...

That's difference between FB and Google, or other search engine traffic...
Guy who comes to Google and searches for how to play guitar will not come every day to google and search that, and your ads will not be shown over and over again to that guy....

Real life example:

FB traffic: You see guy in red ferrari parked, and you come to him and ask him if he wants to buy some car mats...Maybe he buys maybe he doesent..
The guy comes next day, parks, and you ask him again...if he bought yesterday, he wont today.

SE traffic: Guy with red ferrari parks, goes out ferrari and shauts if anybody has car mats to selll..then you got o him and sell it....Next day he parks and just sits there, and you are waiting for next guy...

Be caeful with FB campaings, watch them closly and if they start to dry up...pause them, try again in a month...or later, when market regenerates...

PS, I watched few FB courses, and none of them is mentioning this...and this is crucial stuff...

Cheers...

Chris Worner

I didn't buy the software since I was put off by the sales page(mainly the false scarcity)and my common sense telling me that if that dude in the video was actually telling the truth, then what is the point of releasing a product about it and alerting Facebook to it?

It will be very interesting what happens over the next couple of weeks, lets see how long this products effectiveness actually lasts.

Yours critically
Chris

buzzer

Yesterday - I purchase the product and the three up sells.
Today - I requested a refund directly to clickbank with the following comment.

"The product bears no resemblance to the sales page and sales video.
It dishonestly allows any advertisement to be displayed on Facebook.
I am surprised this deception of Facebook is being supplied by Clickbank."

I guarantee this will not continue for long.

It's called fraud - "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage."

tomster

Hey buzz...

What were 3 upsells about?

MartyP

I purchased without any upsells (thought my PC had frozen with the amount of pop up screens every time I tried to exit!). The way I look at it is this; It cost $39 so a couple of sales and it's paid for itself. I did find useful content, although I'm nervous about using parts of the facebook marketing that are borderline dogdy. As all of you guys say, do you want your fb account blocked because of this? I have lots of content that would be impossible to get back!

It would also be interesting to see if anyone has signed up today, as usually things this good sell their 234 copies within minutes, especially with the amount of people promoting it!

Anyone made any fb sales as a result of using their methods yet? I saw one of the products on clickbank already 'liked' by 80 or so followers so that could already be saturated.

Just another weapon to the arsenal really isn't it?

Good luck all,
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Harlan

I have to tell you I already advertise on FB. I thought their video on demographics was good.

In fact, that was the best part of the product.

I think the cloaking script is a dumb ass idea.

And I think that if someone did this and lost their Facebook account, these guys would be open for a law suit.

Here's the bottom line:

DON'T GAME THE SYSTEM!

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cadillac48

I can't believe how naive some people are like Martin. Does he realy believe that this product is limited to 234 people? Like others have stated, that obviously is a lot of crap. Why have all the JV contests to induce them to max out their sales if that were true. I have not bought it and won't because i don't trust people guilty of such deception!

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neodarth

I bought one of the upsells the copy n' paste profiteer. two ready made campaigns (8 more to go in the next weeks), I copy one of the ads to the tie and create an split test with my own ad just for the fun of it.

The result: after one day running simultaneously the first ad 1037 impressions and 0 click
The second (mine) 21569 impressions 38 clicks 2 sales.

I have a really bad feeling about this system... should I write an apologies letter to my list? :S

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T2007

From what I've been reading, I believe the $14 would be to place Facebook ads. Just a wild guess based on my research. Would love to learn more from somebody that is actually using it. I appreciate all the input of warriors

T2007

Agree. As a rule, Clickbank products are made available for the long run. Otherwise, why make it available to affiliates? Why not selling just a handful of copies with another payment processor?

julie004

I pruchased and got one upsell for 47.00 recurring monthly fee. It turned out to be
AffiliateX which was also a upsell to Turbo Profir Sniper and sold for 67.00 recurring fee.
I requested a refund for the upsell as I do not trust the marketer behind AffiliateX.

None of the links worked for me when I downloaded the original product. I sent them an
email right away. It's been 24 hours with no response as of yet. I am not interested in advertising with facebook but more so I am tired of false promises.

It's come to the point that I might not ever buy another make money product from
Clickbank again. You would think that Clickbank should review vendor's products before
allowing them in their marketplace. It has gotten way out of hand.

I totally agree with you Buzzer. Also like many of you, I am so tired of all the upsells,
even more so when they have nothing to do with the original product. By the time
I got through the upsells I was confused as to what I just paid for.

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l23bc

Just been passed the video and this product by someone who was a affilate. Glad i have this Great warrior forum and brillant members who aint here to sell me something who tell me The Truth Because Seems there plenty of people usng this saracity method in many new products being pushed out it so annoying and misleading.

I know from Doing CPA networking alot of CPA marketers use scripts with Facebook for Traffic and Facebook just lock or ban the accounts for it. I have many scripts from CPA maketplaces i got for 5 dollars which have proven this because too many affilates get these scripts and just spoil it for others.

Thank you for everyone here actully telling me without no sales patter on what it is about, without wasting the money

God bless the warrior forum

nushi

OK. I've looked this over some more and to be honest, I would have saved a lot more time if the sales copy and video had been just a tad more explicit in what this programme has to offer that is so fantastical (made up word).

I will not give much away by saying this: You have to create your own ads. You use Facebook and Plenty of Fish. The software is a URL cloaker. That being said, where is the automation? Where is the traffic glitch? Semantics perhaps, but this is not a traffic glitch. To be more precise, it is a glitch in the way FB staff view the URL you, the advertiser, send them for approval. That is not in itself a "traffic glitch", but I can see how that would work in your favor. Please correct me if I am wrong in my assessment here?

The other thing is: Is Plenty of Fish really that much of a mystery traffic source? I've known about it for quite some time.

The last thing I want to say is: To play with FB ads, and I have, you need to have the right offer and the right copy etc.... It can get expensive. And so can Plenty of Fish if you don't know what you are doing. Testing costs money. If a newbie wants to learn how to create an AD using either interface, there are tutorials on this for free out there. At least there is for FB ads. I learned how to use the Plenty of Fish interface by playing around and when necessary actually calling the ad contact at PoF. Very accessible. I did not know what exactly I was doing and yet, he helped me out and in a few minutes I was off and running.

So, my take on this is the pitch was deceptive. I am not shocked, but I am disappointed. I really wish these guys would be a bit more upfront with what they are offering. Truth is I just wanted to see what this one was about. Not shocked in the least that the product does not fit the claims. Many people who commented on the blog for this product were hooked on the 12 clicks/ $14 EACH TIME copy .. Pretty smart, but a bit misleading. At least tie this into the actual programme somehow!

For some people, I can see the value of the software, however, as well as the vid tutorials for FB and PoF creation. It's only $39. Not a bad deal. I just think if you have a pie-in-the-sky, wishful thinking cap on and see yourself being taken in, be a healthy skeptic. I am not cynical by nature, or even jaded, but I do think it is wise to step back.

I hope this comment helps some people who are on the fence to make a more informed decision.

Droopy Dawg

The guy in the video (on the salespage) says the word "Underground" ALOT... so to come here and learn that this product "games" Facebook, then I see why its characterized as such.

I've bought a couple good products on using Facebook for PPC and CPM, so if that's all I'd learn from this product then I could spend that $39 on more alcohol.

Thanks for the reviews all.

DeShon

tomster

It seems to me that all those similar, hypi, suspisious proucts are comeing from same circle of people/big affilaites....and they keep on releasing similar stuff each week...they HYPE it up, and send to each others lists......

I dont know, but people are not stupid, they will eventually stop buying this ****....but this guys will get some profit from it, for sure....

I dont like it...

Refund button is here to beat them

excoder01

Ok, POF and Facebook are not mystery traffic sources - however, I was tempted to buy this software.

By reading the video comments on the sales page, most seem like newbies....

"I'm new to the Internet, I need money!!!"

"Wow, great software, i will buy it, i need traffic for my blog.."

And so on....yet, I think most CB products target newbies.

PPV, PPC, POF, FB, Myads, Buysellads, etc...are not mystery traffic sources if millions use them! There's no mystery or secret traffic sources -- otherwise, why would millions be visiting them? And most likely, are not buyers.

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tomster

I posted few comment there to, just to see if they will show it on site, none of them did....

Zed Shah

I gave it a chance while it was $39 and also took the first upsell with the copy n paste campaigns.

heres my experience so far.

for the price, you get a LOT of value here - i had no idea it was about FB ads / POF, but i actually already so some FB marketing since checking out Jani G's product, so had some experience with that already.

i had also looked in to cloaking software before as that is where the "real money" is made with facebook …

i can tell you guys straight up, for $39 this is the best cloaking script ive ever seen

you get the whole source code so you can modify it too… but to put it bluntly…

there is virtually NO chance FB could figure out you were using this. it comes with a database of reviewers IP's, plus finds new ones and stores them in the database, if anyone tries to use a proxy it automatically cloaks the link, if anyone goes to the link direct it cloaks the link.

it's all very impressive to me after looking at the other FB cloaker on the market.

build in the fact you get all the training (the demographics tips are worth the price alone, especially the tool he shows which i wont mention …) and for $39 this is pretty great in my opinion.

sales letter is a bit spammy, but its good value

just my 2 cents

peace

Zed

gjd6599

I don't care what these shyster marketers say in their videos and sales letters, when their trying to sell the next best thing. I always go to the warrior forum to get the real scoop.

I had my credit card in hand on this one, and I said, let me just take a quick look on the forum. Now its back in my wallet. Thanks all, for saving me 39 bucks, and some unwanted aggravation.

Glenn

neodarth

The point I'm still don't get it is why the copy n' paste campaigns are set by direct linking the cb product... what is the use of the script then?

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coco james

I bought this product yesterday and I will like to return it today! The salespage promise a whole different world than what is actually delivered.
Going thru everthing I was so disappointed, aswell plse don't waste my time and money!!!

- quickly found out that the software is aimed at fooling fb. Well not only unethical, I thought if so many people after buying this software are going to use it how long will it take for fb to fiquire this out?
Also 13 quick clicks they promised, I have no idea how to get this on my server.
So frustating to get a product that is good or even better than the sales page. Ok where is that product that is what it says it is?
1hen - launch a product I am going to honest, I don't care if I lose sales . - rather be a honest marketer, than full of crap grab the money and run.
That my two cents, thanks

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Dan Ellenwood

You're supposed to put a "good" link in the script to go to a site the FB ad mods will approve and don't give them the CB direct link. Supposedly the FB mods will disapprove a direct CB link (does anyone know if that is true)?

There is a "footprint" the FB mods could look for in your destination URL if everyone installs the software in the same named folder as in the training videos...

neodarth

That's my point. I've put a direct CB link not even cloaked with the ugly Clickbank Cloak, just the simple affiliate.vendor.hop.clickbank net

And FB accepted within the same day...

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affhelper

I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook sued them for this. Not only that it's clearly in Clickbank's TOS that selling products that violate other sites TOS is not allowed. It only takes one person to report this to FB and Clickbank and they could be in some deep trouble. Maybe not in trouble with CB but Facebook could take it seriously and drop a nice lawsuit on them.

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Minbani

I am so glad I am a member of the WF. Thanks everyone for the great info. I don't know much (if anything) about using FB or POF advertising so it could be a learning product for me even though it doesn't do what I thought (was led to believe) it would from the sales letter.

Like many others here, I'm fed-up with lying sales copy. I mean really, what's the point? Sooner (hopefully) rather than later, the truth will out.

perswealth

To be clear, the point of the "software" is to game Facebook. That's it. They mention that "make money" products could make great money on facebook IF it were allowed. So this is the soluton (the "software"). Now whether that is the case is up for discussion. Obviously they say they are doing awesome with the make money niche on Facebook. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. Given there level of honesty up to this point, i have my doubts.

As for POF, you would just do regular advertising on POF, as you wouldn't need the "software" there. To be completely honest, the only real value i got out of the course was the talk about demographic testing, as someone here mentioned. They explain it well and how to use it for your product.

But that's it. So bottom line, its:

NOT set and forget software
NOT automated
NOT clicking 14 times and money spewing out of your account.
NOT for free, and could be WAAAY more than the $14 that they mentioned
NOT ethical from Facebooks point of view (and you could get in trouble if they find out the scheme)
NOT worth the hastle and possibly getting caught.

I'm not saying you couldn't make money with this. Personally, i just don't think it's worth it to try, then possibly get banned from facebook, or worse, sued. And to possibly lose money AND get in trouble? Wouldn't that be a double kick in the b$%#s.

To be honest, i knew it was too good to be true from the beginning and that there was some type of shenangans involved. I was really just curious as to what they had, given that they presented it as though it was the cure for cancer. And given that it was only $39, what the heck?

Steve Wise

I totally agree. I mean let's be serious if you had a product that could do what every sales page claims would you sell it for $39, $47, $67 etc etc? Ha, as if! Although it is hilarious how every product creator has had such a hard life before "stumbling" upon the Holy Grail which out of the goodness of their hearts they're gonna give us for a pittance because they "just wanna give something back"

It's a real tear jerker.

excoder01

This kind of product are making newbies starting off on the wrong foot in IM.

Aren't there like thousands of newbies already buying this?

They're new to making money online and already being taught to be a con-(wo)man using sleazy tactics on FB. I would surprise if FB doesn't terminate their account with 3 months.

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Steve Ranger

I purchased this as well.

As it's been said.. this little trick won't last forever. You're not
exactly building a stable business with things like this.

Nice idea mind but Facebook have some seriously talented programmers
that will have this sorted out most probably this month.

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Thank you for catching this, we appreciate it. The offender has been deleted from this thread (and soon, the forum).

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dt1968

My thoughts exactly. I was so put off by the video, the hype, the false scarcity and all the other garbage that I didn't even make it through the video. I guess I've just been around too long to fall for this stuff but I'm sure a lot of noobs will buy it.

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Sales letters are just getting hypier and hypier. I almost bought this as well, as it's pretty convincing. Thanks for the great reviews.

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