karma8

Anyone check this out yet? The video on the site sounds like the guy is legit, he makes a valid point about other scam marketers anyway. They offer a free video besides that with an email address. I guess I can try to get that first. Was trying to avoid the one time offer scenario if it's no good. Let me know. Thanks

Oh yeah forgot to mention it was a clickbank product.
Ok gotta go eat the french toast my husband just made me, yummy!

Sandra

McGruff

Yes, I'd like to hear some feedback on this as well.

The point he makes in the video is that many gurus selling programs teaching affiliate marketing deceive us by showing their earnings that are from the sales of their product, NOT the sales they have made as an affiliate marketer.

I think this is a valid point, and I'd like to hear more about zero cost commissions.

jprano

I like to know if there any upsells, how many and how much.
It seems like all these $77 (wave the carrot) products come with upsells.

Gary Pettit

I will most likely give it a try...at least it's through Clickbank so the return policy is good. They pretty much eliminated all the things I could think of it being, so it has my curiosity. If anyone knows what the marketing tactic is, please let us know. It will sure be nice when the day comes that marketers just tell it like it is upfront..I think most people appreciate that and respond better as well.

seoweb2000

"If you are completely new to internet and affiliate marketing and you are not making any money what soever or not making more money online than you currently spending then this Blatant Affiliate Link Which Is No Longer Here would benefit you." This statement from the review sums it up.

I have been disappointed with the array of CB products that have been release recently. It seems like there is so only so many ways to make money online and 99.9% of them have been covered and recovered.

sallycev

Hey Sparkie,

Just wondering if you did buy it and give it a try and could share some feedback on this?

Really appreciate it if you can let us know.

Thanks,
Cheers,
Sally

Bill_Z

I have to admit this made me giggle

karma8

I found this review that at least gives you a little bit of info anyway, it basically says if your a noob then it's probably ok for you, but if your advanced then you will prob know most of it. That seems like the case usually anyway. Found here, not my site:
hubpages.com/hub/zerocostcommissionsreview-zerocostcommissions
If the link gets removed I searched as Zero Cost Commissions honest review on Google and it was the 3rd one down.
Also if you go to clickbank marketplace this is the description for the product:
Unique affiliate marketing software, created by 7-figure super affiliates, Paul Liburd and Antonio Guiditta. This software automates the underground methods they use to raid Cb. Easily Earn up to $190 Per sale! http:/www.zerocostcommissions.com/jv.html
So there definitely is at least one upsell.
Hope that helps a little.

I am still curious how they make as much as they do with no so much work. Time will tell.

Sandra

chuckles

I just bought this and already I am starting to regret losing my focus from doing my own thing.

Someone asked how many upsells there are - there are 3. One of these is a monthly subscription which I did not go for. The other is traffic software and the last one is "advanced" information which just appears to be a 30 page document about using Google Adwords.

The sales letter and what I am currently reading does not match up so far...some examples:-

The sales letter says "Make money with zero cost and zero expertise almost immediately"

The manual says "Understand that building your business on the Internet is a long and
rewarding journey" and "Try and be patient and not expect the quick "bullet" type of way for success,as many have fallen down that hole."

I agree with these statements but it is not what the sales letter says - yes I know it is a sales letter but come on!

Also the sales letter says that no website is required and it is nothing to do with e-mail marketing and yet in what I am reading both are mentioned.

I very much doubt I will read that much further but will check out the backlinks software to see if there is any real value there.

Hope that helps people on this thread.

chuckles

I forgot to add that their software is to publish reviews to WordPress or as their instruction manual says "Worpress" - I really don't think this will save anyone here any time and it is hardly ground breaking.

The section on writing the reviews could be helpful if you do not know where to start - but "automated" it is not. The only bit I can see is automated is uploading the review to WordPress but I am pretty sure anyone on this forum can do that for themselves and only spend a few more minutes than this software.

I am already leaning towards refunding this due to the misleading sales letter and the software being far from "ground breaking". I might get some value from the backlinking software, so might keep that depending on results.

I put it down to it being a public holiday here in the UK and me getting distracted from building a real business online. There really is NO magic button folks.

tomster

chuckles, thanks for review...

what is actually main product? Some software or something? On what is their traffic strategy builded? SEO?

julie004

I am so sick of these misleading sales pages. Why can't they just tell us what it is instead of what it isn't. It might cut down their refund rate.
(at least, they got you on their list)

I will not bite as I have with a few recent products.

My guess is that...
One of the upsells is AffiliateX,websiteX or auto website (all the same product by Chris Fox)

I hope someone who bought will let me know if I'm right or wrong.

I would be much happier if they presented their product for what it is.
They evidently know what they are doing because they are the ones making all the money.

I personally would not be able to sleep if I misled my subcribers this way.

Good luck to all who purchase.

chuckles

The main "product" appears to be a little piece of software that you fill in your review (remember it is NOT an article as it said in the sales letter article writing is not involved!) and it helps put it together for you - but that is basic software coding. It then appears to ftp this info up to your WordPress blog (but remember a website is NOT necessary either!).

Sorry for the sarcasm but it really annoys me these guys can say no website is required and one with this method most definitely IS. There is NO way to implement this "system" without a website but I can't see the need for this software at all - just do it yourself. I don't think their software does anything magical to improve your WordPress rankings.

I will read the rest of the manual in case there is something good in there, if not multiple refunds!

Anyone reading this I would advise you focus on your own methods and things mentioned in this forum. I have got more value out of a $10 WSO.

Again there is NO magic button - unsubscribe from all guru lists and just get on with your own work.

(the upsells are not to do with Affiliate X but hey the "guru" could have changed his name on this project!)

dzoaffiliate

the main strategy for all these types of products (including Turbo Profit Sniper - which i bought because i was curious - and i also refunded after 4 weeks just to give it a chance! - it's was a scam).

ok so the main strategy here is to GET A HUGE LIST. So they expect most to refund anyway. They know that 100% will not unsubscribe their list so they have a list they can now market to. It's a clever but very bad method and not worth the bad vibes it brings with it - not to mention your credibility!

At $37 i would stay well away....

himanuzo

What is the main traffic method of the ZCC?

Aleksejs Zuravlovs

Yeah, I received notification about that product too.
"Why can't they just tell us what it is instead of what it isn't." Agree it is SO stupid, when You buy product You need to know features and benefits, instead they tell what it isn't. It's like a pig in a poke. That approach sucks. And probably that product too.

julie004

Chuckles, Thanks for all your input and replying to my assumption.

I totally agree with you "Again there is NO magic button - unsubscribe from all guru lists and just get on with your own work."

I have become very distacted lately. I'm in need of someone I can trust to hold my
hand and follow a detailed plan. Thought about NPC 3.0 but maybe I should just join
TWF as a paid member. This is a community full of special honest people.

dt1968

Yes you're correct dzoaffiliate....they're just building a big list with
what appears to be an inferior product (based on what others are
saying). Nothing new, nothing groundbreaking it appears.

Even if you don't buy, they try at least a couple times to get you
on their list with exit pops (which I find annoying). But hey, it's
probably working nicely for them. They are creating a buzz and
have all of us talking about their product.

I personally will be staying away.

chuckles

The software appears to be the main product with a manual to go with it. After that is the 3 upsells.

chuckles

No problem - the "gurus" make me VERY angry. I think somone on the WF describe them as "screw you's" which is a better description.

Take a look at Joint Venture (JV) Lists, Announcements, Blogs, And Community Forums. to see the "gurus" systems being launched soon. I wish I had found this forum 5 years ago - would have saved myself a lot of time and frustration!

I am a member of Chris Farrell's Membership site and am finding that useful and Chris appears to cover everything - not an affiliate for it but I do think he offers real VALUE.

tomster

Thanks C.

I acctually unsibscribed from like 10 marketers in last 2 weeks...everybody who was promoting Traffic Avalanche, Traffic Sniper Profit, My Cashe printer and similar ****, i just unsubscribe, no questions asked....It's sad that some people who seems honest in their effort to actually help fellow marketer started to promote this kind of products, so i had to let them go...

jaclay20

I got an email promoting this one as well, sales pitch was very convincing, I almost bought it. Chuckles, have you finished reading it and can give a final verdict? http://lotabout.com/images/tracking/avatar3.gif

Code64

Look, I've bought IPK2010 a few weeks ago for $37 (I've bought it last year, I just want to know what is in the new version). One part is Launch Raider, which shows you how to take the hype with the new Clickbank launches and sell the stuff to newbies.
Now Chris Kaye is sending out an email every time a new product is launchend and tells that this is the best thing on earth to make money. He doesn't care that he "touted" that you should focus on physical products with his own IPK course. The goal with his $37 IPK 2010 launch was to build a list and now sell other Clickbank stuff to this list.

But the said part is, that people are falling for the hype and buying those products. What do you think? - You can get rich over night with no work? Sure.... Wake up and unsubsribe from all those lists, that are trying to sell you the new "Holy Grail" for making money and getting traffic, with no work, no money, no list, no website.... . Get real. There is no secret to make money on the internet. It's all here on the forum available.

Please do yourself a favour and wake up now!!!

imguru

I'm subscribed to most "guru"s on a second email address which I just check from time to time..

c elias

Thank heavens for the WF - I kick myself when I waste time reading other internet 'honest' reviews of products and then find my way here again, when all I need to do is come here and get the REAL review of a product - and save money!

McGruff

Same here...Although the answer to your question is that the response is significantly higher selling the curiosity factor. Revealing what it is most likely won't result in nearly as many sales.

julie004

Chuckles, Thanks again. Considered Chris Farrells membership site. I must make the right
decision and stick with it. Anyway back to this thread........

I have been unsubscribing from many list as well and am sort of shocked that some
I have trusted promote so many of the hyped uped sales pages presented by these
super gurus. (I like that term "screw yous" better) Someone hit the nail on the head there!

I am finding that some of these list I have joined has got me on many more list than
I realized. I have no idea what some of them are. Also I find myself still unsubscribing
from list that I already unsubscribed from. I have unsubscribed from one persons (same list) each of the last 3 days and each time it says..you have been unsubscribed successfully. I will continue until I get my mail boxes thined down to only those I trust.

One would think that Clickbank would be more aware of what is being promoted in their marketplace. I personally am more skeptical of any make money product in Clickbank now. If this continues as it has been... I can see it really hurting Clickbank along with
the honest Internet marketers that promote their business opportunities there.

Thanks everyone, there are many valid points made here. I believe they know exactly what they are doing and it's working... If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

dzoaffiliate

if you're a newbie, you might want to check out Mike Filsaime and Chris's Affiliate Marketing 2.0 course. Mike always has quality stuff.

I am only on about 3 people`s list who i trust - so far they have given some valuable info. Gauher Chaudry, Matt Carter and Mike Filsaime. My Fav. is Gauher - great guy - great info.

kenwarrior

As far as product quality is concerned clickbank rely on the refund rate to alert them that a piece of junk is being sold... so don't be shy if that is your opinion

I agree that product launch's are out of control and most are now bolderline fraudulent

One recent product claimed that only 350 will EVER be sold, but when you read the JV affiliate page they boast that 3,000 have already been sold with great conversions etc

ajayazero88

Hi I purchased it for the discount price of US$37. There are 2 upsells of $197 personal coaching, $67 monthly for the automation software ($47 if you didn't bite the initial $67).

I'm gonna try the software out, and hopefully, i'll make the cost back in commissions.

Boomergirl

My feelings exactly. I also bought IPK in 2009 (for $149.00) and when I asked about the 2010 version he said I had to pay the $37.00 if I wanted to see the new stuff. I did and now, almost daily, emails come in selling one of these re-packaged products.

Sadly, I have unsubscribed from his list which used to be about IPK and is now about everything but.

Boomergirl

Amen to that! I always check here first.

Micki

Boomergirl

Julie,

If you aren't a member of the War Room that is where the $$ should go. You will not be sorry. But, be prepared to spend some time there. A wealth of information will be available to you.

Micki

Mini Michael

I'm getting a bit tired of all these next best thing sales letters. I have started to unsubscribe from lists that send me rubish or stuff that they are not using themselves. ( How do I know!! I read up on this forum ) WHY oh WHY do so many so called "gurus" with hugh lists insist on hurting their reputation by doing this....... Perhaps it's to earn enough money so they can hang a "guru" tag around there neck, so struggling noobs like me will fund their lavish lifestyles.
OK..OK.. I'll shut up and stop digging myself into a big hole

Mick

101millionAds

I bought the product 10 minutes ago and i have already claimed a refund.

What a bunch of rubbish.

paulmackie

What the heck was I thinking!

Zero Cost Commissions is a piece of software that is a template to help create product reviews and publish to Wordpress; so, you do need a website and have to find your own products to sell.
OK, the upsells are a 3 stage "YOUR ORDER IS NOT COMPLETE", where the I want to pass can be hard to find:
$197 for training from clickbank millionaires: passed on this.
$67 for software to find clickbank products, keywords and other things at no cost, but seem to always cost something: I passed on this.
Traffic software at$77: I passed and then again the software at $47.
At this point you can download "ZERO COST COMMISSIONS" I have to laugh here as there is a free video about how "one blog" can make you a fortune if you buy their method at $97.
SO, in all I bought a review software for $37.
The hype of the sales letter, "Does not require a website, no cash to get started, a product or list, experience or manual work may be true, if you buy all the upsell software and their methods; but the first two requirements of "no website" and "no cash" are not true, as you need a wordpress website to upload the software's review; the no cost part is also not true, as the software would cost several hundred dollars; plus the how to create a blog at $97 if you are totally new to this.
The Zero Cost Commission method may well work, but at the moment I am kicking myself for falling for the hyped up sales letter claims of no cash and make a fortune with no effort.
Slick marketing sales letter, videos, upsells and sign ups are the order of the day with ZCC.
Hope this helps. I will be asking for a refund.

Have a great day.
Paul

paulmackie

Hi Everyone,
I forgot to mention that the ZCC package comes with a 99 page PDF that goes into how to setup a review site using wordpress, and how to optimize the site. In my opinion this report gives good content to the newbie, and along with the software, could help get you up and running with a product review wordpress website.
I will review this information and may hold off on the refund, as I am interested in setting up a product review niche site.

Have a great day.
Paul

Richnana

Actually I called them SGURU's but we are the enablers in many cases. When we look for the magic bullet. Thanks for the overview of this product. saved me some money and time (which is more precious).

Code64

Why do you bought it? The scheme is always the same at the moment.

Product for $37 or $47 with video left up on the salespage. Limited amount of sales 200, 324 or whatever... when you leave the page you'll get an $10 discount.

If you purchase you'll get bombarded with a minimum of 3 upsells, downsells $197, $97, $47 monthly membership and more. They suck you in with a hyphed up salesletter and then the sellingmarathon starts. And even if you only buy the upfront product, you'll get bombarded afterwards with other Clickbank offers via email.

Steve Wise

There seems to be more and more product launches now that promise the earth on the slaes page then when you click the "buy" button you're taken to 2 or 3 upsells which more or less tell you that the product you just purchsed is no good if you don't buy this that and the other.

chuckles

I am not going to read any more of it - it's awful. If you do not know how to setup WordPress etc you can find that out for free on the net or on YouTube.

I feel like e-mailing the "screw you's" behind the product with an invoice for my time....valued at $197 per minute and then when they pay that present them with upsells for my "premium" time at a monthly membership!

The thing is all the "screw you's" operate like this and I am ashamed to have fallen for the sales page hype. More and more of their cr*p is being released in the months to come according to the jvnotify website. They all e-mail their lists and make lots of money - but never use the product themselves - so sleazy.

I hope we are soon to pass the hype launches and people that do buy will refund and as a result the "screw you's" will no longer be able to function.

I will be refunding after posting this message.

rockingcow

This stuff makes me laugh.

Everyone should get off the lists they are on then they will have no more distractions.

If a product tells you everything that it doesn't do, it is most likely a scam.

Think of all the best IM products that you own. I bet you knew what every one of them did before you bought it.

Stop buying stuff that is so crap they are scared to even tell you what it is.

Marc Meole

Purchased it yesterday. It was hyped as "what the gurus are not telling you" so I figured why not, it's only $37 and maybe the automation software would be worth it (I develop software so I am always interested in what's new out there).

Read it twice to make sure I didn't miss anything..WOW it was 99 pages of rehashed info on how it make review sites with word press...

Normally I don't ask for a refund on products when I get it and it is something I already knew...but this was totally false advertising...not misleading (then it's my fault for not seeing through it) but totally false.

They say it's "info that the gurus are not talking about"...well that's because they were talking about it 5 years ago.

I am also not one to knock another product...but these guys bash the "gurus" and their techniques, but their launch is no different:

Product ... upsell 1....upsell 2...discounted upsell 2...

Even total newbies shouldn't waste their time...not only was there nothing in the 99 pages I didn't know...it was all info you can google and get for FREE under a couple of hours.

I'm not trying to be mean in any way...I was just very disappointed in this product. I hardly ever buy this stuff...now I remember why...

imguru

Yea, I think that's true too. The package is really not that bad, it's not what the sales video says but what ever is

Code64

100% in line with me here. Nothing new, false advertising... normaly a case for the FTC.

mistermint

Yet another new re-vamped product-

I used think the same just unsubscribe but now, I just copy the auto responder messages and keep them for future reference..

101millionAds

Hi,

Just looking for a quick fix for my Affiliojetpack websites.I have nearly never bought one of those "hype programs" and i just wanted to know what was inside those fanzy salespages and my intuition was right.

I haven`t missed anything and it was just like i imagined - A lot of screaming and no quality product.

Happily i bought it thru Clickbank and their great refund policy.

Annette.

gtgart

Hi Annette,

I will be interested to see if they give you $150 for your trouble. Does anyone remember that was part of their IronClad mbg?

Word of advice on who to trust in this IM game, just go back to your inbox and find the guys who sent this email to you and now you know that they are liars as well and therefore you cannot trust anything they say to you now or have said to you in the past.

Sign Up To A List tip:

I subscribe using NOT my name but with an "Abusername" which is a combination of who sent me the invite to join someones list and the word optin.

ie: OptinGuruX is inserted in the name field of the signup form and means I am signing up for some free video etc from an invite from GuruX for example. Then I know the JV trail when I get the emails from them in the future that are addressed as:

Hi OptinGuruX,

I have another rippoff product for you that will make you instant millions....

(sent by conman recommended by GuruX)

I think you get the picuture.

Makes it easy to see who is ripping you off with rubbish and then you know who to unsubscribe from very easily.

It is very hard to find someone who tells the truth and will not send you all this garbage, so when you find them stick with them and let us all know.

Greg

Code64

What problem do you have with your AJP websites, that you want to solve?

teddy67

This was just one of a long string of jv launches that offers push button software for easy riches. I unsuscribed from every list that sent me one of these offers.