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Old 09-04-2010, 02:15 AM   #1
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When I first purchased this program I was a little skeptical. But having went through the first course I've had a change of heart.

Some of you will know the method already. It's about building lists and building relationships with the people on your list. It goes through everything from traffic research, list building, promotion, social network marketing etc.

I knew a lot of what he was talking about, but when you spend so long in another marketing area you need a recap. Things change quickly.

Chris is an awesome speaker. He is a clear, to the point, no fluffing around type of speaker. I think the program has been constructed well.

Each video is 10 minutes long, and there are small exercises at the end of some of the videos. There are user comments/questions/advice on each video.

The method will work, and some people will make a LOT of money if they put the work in. It's easy to see why list building is probably the most important aspect of IM.

I think the program is now closed. But knowing Mike it will re open again.
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Yes, I bought the program and must say that it is thorough, and well thought out. I love the videos. There is something for everyone regardless of your experience! Mike Filsaime and Chris Farrell put out fantastic products and this one is no exception!
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Shoemoney won a New X5 for promoting this....
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I'm loving the program. It might be the best investment I have ever made, and I've made much larger financial investments than this!

Allot of the information I already knew (although it has just begun)... but having it all presented in such a systematic format - it allows you too really 'get it'.

I love Mike, and Chris has been outstanding.
These gentlemen are presently rocking my world

Oh~ and the bonuses!!
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I initially joined AffiliateDotCom and then requested a refund with the 30 day window (the content is good, just don't have time to do the program right now).

I submitted a request through their online support system (you cannot call them, or if you do they redirect you to the online system) yet after several days and repeated emails I am getting no response from these guys. It seems like they are very eager to make a sale, but not eager to give a refund even when it is within their terms.

I guess I'm wondering now if these guys - Mike Filsame and Chris Farell - are legit? Has anyone else had problems getting a refund from these guys?
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I initially joined AffiliateDotCom and then requested a refund with the 30 day window (the content is good, just don't have time to do the program right now).
That's really unethical. Part of me hopes they don't refund if "content is good, just don't have time to do the program right now" is the issue. What business doesn't require time and hard work?
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No, there it is more than just time - it's also somewhat the content for me but also events have happened that are taking my business in a completely different direction, so I am not using any of the material. And yes, of course a business takes hard work!

But regardless, the reason for a refund is not the issue. Most reputable marketers offer a refund within a certain time period no matter what. That's the unconditional money back guarantee that you see everywhere. It's usually a huge win for the marketer as they end up closing many more deals that they would. I know, I have owned websites that when we went to a 30 day free trial our conversion went up by 30% and our refund rate was at 4%.

In any case, hopefully these guys will come through with their promise.
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No, there it is more than just time - it's also somewhat the content for me but also events have happened that are taking my business in a completely different direction, so I am not using any of the material. And yes, of course a business takes hard work!

But regardless, the reason for a refund is not the issue. Most reputable marketers offer a refund within a certain time period no matter what. That's the unconditional money back guarantee that you see everywhere. It's usually a huge win for the marketer as they end up closing many more deals that they would. I know, I have owned websites that when we went to a 30 day free trial our conversion went up by 30% and our refund rate was at 4%.

In any case, hopefully these guys will come through with their promise.

Ok you seem to be talking ethics here...answer me this how ethical is it for you to request a refund because you just don't need/want the program now? Again you say the content is good but you are going in a different direction? These two have been around a very long time and are some of the most ethical people I know. You on the other hand IMHO fall a bit short of that. Should they refund your money on principal? Yes ... Are you being ethical for requesting a refund because of your own choosing after the fact? I don't believe you are.
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You don't want your customers to start asking for refund, do you?
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I know, I have owned websites that when we went to a 30 day free trial our conversion went up by 30% and our refund rate was at 4%.
I'm sure you would feel the same if every one of your customers bought and then sent a refund request email describing their unique bs situation and why they aren't going to use your info.

...you'd be RAGING mad and you know it.

And I don't think many people with an online business pulling in the numbers would invest in "Affiliate Dot Com" ... it's got "noob push button easy cash" written all over it, so I suppose I understand how this would have a lot of refund requests with this type of logic.
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Scott, I get refund requests all the time from people like Mr.Matrixman...and the requests can be downright hilarious.

One guy actually called me on the phone...told me that he wanted a refund for a 1 dollar trial product, (he canceled so he didn't pay full price), but he wanted his dollar back.

His reason?

The product was EXCELLENT. He was actually using it - but he didn't have any money so that dollar was needed to help him pay the bills.

I proceeded to ask him:

"Why did you purchase in the first place if you can't pay the bills?"

He told me

"I wanted your product, but you offered a refund so I knew I could get it for free."

Me, steaming mad at this point, told him:

"You do realize that I didn't offer a refund, I offered a TRIAL in which you canceled. I'm not refunding your dollar. And besides, this is downright theft. You not only like my product, but are using it, but yet you want a refund?"

So I hung up on the guy.

The next day I get a dispute in my paypal for the 1 dollar. On principle, I actually fought it...and won (I tracked the download and proved to paypal he had downloaded the product. I also gave them information regarding the phone call).


Anyway, to me, if you purchase the product, like the content, but suddenly "change your mind" that your business will go in another direction, thus, you want a refund, that is being unethical.

You shouldn't have purchased in the first place.

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I signed up fully expecting to complete the program. I did not go into it planning to get a refund and steal anyone's secrets. On the contrary. I did put some honest effort into it. If I am going to spend over $2K on a program I have to make sure it's something I'm going to utilize. There was no way of knowing that without trying it out - like Mike and Chris suggested in their material. You can only learn so much without seeing the program. That's the point of a guarantee. I'm sorry if you don't like that but that's life. If I was going in with the intent of cancelling and/or stealing their stuff, I agree that would be unethical, of course, but I did NOT do that.

When I gave refunds I never prejudged people as to the reason - if they asked for a refund they got it. Period. While I did try to get a reason for market research reasons, I didn't dwell on it and steam about the person or get angry over it, instead I focused my time and energy on improving the process and making new sales. At least with this AffiliateDotCom, they said that they were able to open the doors again a few days after the initial launch for a brief time to fill some slots of people who had double signed up, or whose charges didn't go through, since they said they were keeping it to a limited number. I suspect they will open it up again to fill additional slots of those that canceled during September, so in the end those guys don't lose out.

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One of the best products out on Affiliate Marketing. Really learned a ton from it.
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... it's got "noob push button easy cash" written all over it, so I suppose I understand how this would have a lot of refund requests with this type of logic.
Hi Scott,
Although I agree the course isn't for advanced marketers by any means, there is absolutely nothing push button about it.

I'm not sure where the noob is and I've yet to hear any mention of easy cash.
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That's really unethical. Part of me hopes they don't refund if "content is good, just don't have time to do the program right now" is the issue. What business doesn't require time and hard work?
There's nothing ethically wrong with asking for a refund if it's offered. The reason doesn't matter. If the product creators offer a guarantee, you can take them up on it. If you just wanted to take a peak inside, get some free stuff, and then get your money back, that's your choice.

However, its just plain stupid to demand your money back from a trial like I read about a few posts above.
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Scott, I get refund requests all the time from people like Mr.Matrixman...and the requests can be downright hilarious.

One guy actually called me on the phone...told me that he wanted a refund for a 1 dollar trial product, (he canceled so he didn't pay full price), but he wanted his dollar back.

His reason?

The product was EXCELLENT. He was actually using it - but he didn't have any money so that dollar was needed to help him pay the bills.

I proceeded to ask him:

"Why did you purchase in the first place if you can't pay the bills?"

He told me

"I wanted your product, but you offered a refund so I knew I could get it for free."

Me, steaming mad at this point, told him:

"You do realize that I didn't offer a refund, I offered a TRIAL in which you canceled. I'm not refunding your dollar. And besides, this is downright theft. You not only like my product, but are using it, but yet you want a refund?"

So I hung up on the guy.

The next day I get a dispute in my paypal for the 1 dollar. On principle, I actually fought it...and won (I tracked the download and proved to paypal he had downloaded the product. I also gave them information regarding the phone call).


Anyway, to me, if you purchase the product, like the content, but suddenly "change your mind" that your business will go in another direction, thus, you want a refund, that is being unethical.

You shouldn't have purchased in the first place.

Rob
Glad you stuck to your guns after all it is not the dollar amount but the principal of the thing here...like you said that is theft...sorry I stole that from the store but i did not have the money for it and i only took it to use and bring back...
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If you don't want people to ask for their money back don't offer the "guarantee" in the first place. Cough up Mike, that would be the ethical thing to do.
I did end up receiving the refund and all is well. These guys honor their word.
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I did end up receiving the refund and all is well. These guys honor their word.
I see that you already got your money back but I was going to tell you that Mike Filsaime and Chris Farrell are about the most honest guys you'll ever run into on the internet. I attended the seminar in Vegas and it was fabulous! They are both the real deal.

The site clearly states how to get customer support. It says:

"For ACCOUNT customer support like payments etc..., please visit Help Desk and Customer Support For MikeFilsaime.com, Inc. Products and Services - TheCustomerHelpDesk.com Read or listen to the message from Mike at the top then scroll to the bottom and click "All other sites" to submit a ticket. Please put "AffiliateDotCom" as the subject of your ticket to ensure a prompt response."

That looks pretty clear to me!


I bought AffiliateDotCom and am amazed by the amount of content that is continually being added to the site. It's really a shame that you gave up so quickly. We all have a limited amount of time, but I guess it's all about how you choose to use it.
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I've had nothing but trouble dealing with Mike Filsame's customer support apparatus. Spent $200 on his Butterfly Marketing Developer's Forum and can't get a refund to save me. This guy is suspect!!!
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They are launching v 2.0 and you can view module 1 (14 videos inside for free right now )

I have questions for those who bought it. I'm asking this because it's useful to know how content is delivered in an A list product when you build your own products in other niches.

1. Did you get all the materials at once or was it dripped ?
2. Was all the interaction via the comments or was there a forum too?
3. How long was your access to the product?
4. If you bought version 1 are you now inside version 2 along with all the new people checking it out before v2 is released?

cheers, it looks like a great product from the first module.
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Chris Farell alone would have been worth it to me he is an amazing teacher that truly cares about his customers. I however missed out on it. But I have been a long time member to his personal Membership site and it goes over everything in amazing detail check out my Review of his membership site it will truly help you with everything you can think of and new videos are posted daily. Chris Farrell’s Membership Site Review | marketonlinetonight.com
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I am very anxious about the launching of AffiliateDotcom 2.0 !! I have been a member of Chris's membership site for a while. I love his teaching style!! I am just wondering how much this program is going to cost. Mike has been around a long time and Chris is a fantastic teacher. If I can afford to do it then I am in!!
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I'm sure that it will be very affordable Chris is pretty well known for giving so much to you at great price.
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Mike Filsaime is one of those people who were smart enough to get started when IM started. He may have some great stuff but I always found it hard to understand, never step by step and not at all newbie friendly. Even now when I think of some of the stuff that he charges around $500 for, I remember thinking, okay, where do I start.

I don't care if you don't agree and if you feel the need to be mean to me for stating my opinion, that's okay too. Not all of us can follow or afford stuff that Mike offers.

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Mike may be good... but I am soooo burnt out by these gurus.....
since the reopen....of this ADC....I will put aside my past prejudices and will see if
this is something that i want to invest in...

BTW... does any one what the price points are for this reopening?
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I have bought it 1 months ago to start learning about it , and this is my personal review of it , it is weight about TON ! Why I says this because everything that have been explained in the video is truly step-by-step and what should a affiliate marketer should setup for and what this is all about is actually start on setup a website with cPanel function , FTP and others.

Newbies, or intermediate can keep on learning about this non-stop whenever you forget something about how to use website to promote your product. I give a rating of 9/10
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