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Unread 28th September 2010, 10:35 PM   #51
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I bought this program today and was very disappointed.

First of all the product is not what it says. It is NOT a software that gets you thousands of visitors with one push button.

It is an ebook with full instructions on how to be succesfull in CPV campaing and the whole ebbok is based on one CPV website that get you traffic with just 1 cent per view. The book is based on how to make good conversion landing pages and how to find the profitable buyer keywords for better conversion.

This was really good information but not worth $27. But it is deffinitely not a software. Yes it has one software. You just type any keyword and you will see all the top 100 websites. Why do I have to pay $27 to see thoe results when I can see those results in google for free??

After your first purchase of $27 of auto mass you will will taken to more offers to buy there softwares on $67/monthly. So make sure you are paying a LOT and these softwares are not worth $67/month

If you do not purchase the $67/month, you will be then asked to try it for $1 for 5 days and there they will upsel you more services and products. I found that VERY ANNOYING!

I was looking to buy a software that can get you 1000's of visitors with one push button but it was an ebook for CPV. I dont understand how could these compnaies sell misleading products???

I will be getting my money back.
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Unread 28th September 2010, 11:25 PM   #52
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I don't see that the AMT has software. But it has blueprint only about how to make money online....
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Unread 28th September 2010, 11:36 PM   #53
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Sounds like an overpriced URL scraper. Might as well just download Laser URL for free and get the "game changing" CPV material for free here on the WF or just Google it. Don't waste your money, sign up for PPVPlaybook. A lot more value.
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Unread 28th September 2010, 11:46 PM   #54
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Well thank goodness for the Warrior Forum.

Evidently, the list of trusted "gurus" is shrinking all the time considering the number of them who support products like this.
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Unread 28th September 2010, 11:58 PM   #55
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I just opted out of 3 lists that were promoting this garbage. I recommend everyone do the same. Oh, and you know how you get TONS of visitors to your sites? WORK!!!!!
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Unread 29th September 2010, 12:09 AM   #56
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I don't know why all of you so exited...
Who is a guru? Philip Mansour? Michael Jones? Adam Horwitz? Paul and Antonio? or maybe Rob Benwell?
lol... you made a smile on my face...
The ONLY two real GURU'S i know, The guys who made a real fortune on IM, The authors of Comission Blueprint and Niche Blueprint its Tim and Steve!
All the products they own has a minimal price of $200 and I'm in their email list around 6 months for now and i received only two affiliate emails for products with the cost of $300-$500.
I don't trust all this new names... I'm not so experienced IM and even i know that all this emails was made by guys like me and you and the only difference between us is that they had a product or two and they built a huge email lists.
What do you except? they want to make some additional money.. don't blame them. All this IM stuff is just like in the "Real World" everyone is trying to make some money no matters what.
The only thing they DON'T understand is that 50% of them just lost 30% of their email lists
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Unread 29th September 2010, 12:54 AM   #57
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Wow!!!!!

I love this forum!!!!

Because, while riding in my friend's car (who happens to be an SEO expert & has fixed my site) in a long hour drive to Beaumont, CA to meet councilman elect Victor Dominguez- anyways I read an e-mail I received from Adam Horowitz - you know the Mobile Monoploy guru- who swore he saw this Auto mass traffic software and was impressed that it blew him away - BullSh!$&@!!!! - Bull Sh!$&@!!!

So, Adam strongly suggested it... I took a look... My friend thought the software siphons e-mail addresses like in a black-hat method-- know, like selling to others by their e-mails? I was looking at this on my iPhone and understood that his sales page repeats and makes empty promises...

Happy I waited - figured to come back here later to see if any reviews were posted?

I'm gald I did!!!!

I meant to buy this at $27 and WOW... happy I didn't now!

Not even sure what CPV really is... Sssshhhhh!!! You can tell me later - it's rhetorical statement. Needless to say I'm so happy to be part of the forum- saved me grief and relief of spending any more of my reserves... With my IT biz slow I haven't any more funds to really spend on IM products that don't work!

I love this forum.

Too bad Adam doesn't read these reviews -- if he did he may consider second thoughts to recommend this!?!?!!!!!!

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It sounds to me like the tool they had in Mass PPV Traffic (Adeel C., Bobby W. and Kris T.) ..There was a OTO and for 11.00/month you could use that tool. You entered a keyword and it spit out urls to place in your ppv campaigns.

It was a separate subscription with Clickbank, but when some people including me refunded the Mass PPV, the owners locked you out of the tool after about 2 weeks. Clickbank wouldn't help either.

People went nuts about it in the forum and someone found a free alternative that worked great but the guy started charging monthly for it. There were other tools within the site, and I'm so sorry that I can't remember it.

I'm no longer interested but when you look at what I wrote about membership costs maybe the Auto Mass Traffic would be a good investment since you then own it.. ?
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Unread 29th September 2010, 02:20 AM   #59
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there is a FREE software called adwords digger that does exactly the same thing as this "magic software" - gets you a list of keyword based urls that you can copy and paste in PPV campaigns.
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Thanks guys for your appraisal of yet another over-hyped product.
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Unread 29th September 2010, 08:30 AM   #61
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Laser URL is another free and very good software for this type of stuff. I just couldn't remember the name LOL.
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Unread 29th September 2010, 10:03 AM   #62
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I wouldnt buy this. the implication is that u copy and paste and hey presto 1000s visitors daily. I dont belive all those visitors in the video are REAL people hits - 13k? Dont line the vendors pockets without seeing a full review but from what ive seen i wouldnt bother.
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It is crap. If you know the slightest about cpv then you probably know more than this course "teaches". Here's some of it's brilliance: From the pdf about finding great clickbank products to promote..."find a product with high gravity". Damn! Why didn't I ever think about that before? Freaking brilliant these guys are!

And as has been said, the software is noting you can't get for free somewhere else.

The upsells blew me away. Are you sure it was only 5? Seemed like about 8 to me. Then when you tried to leave the page there were about 5 exit pops.

Really, really a lame product. If that guy Mo Latif had a good rep before, that product just ruined it.
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Unread 29th September 2010, 01:22 PM   #64
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I'll tell you what the BEST $37 bucks I ever spent was...and that was the paid subscription to the Warrior Forum.... And the REASON I spent that dough was just because of life saving reviews like the above. I can't tell you how many times the kind of info I get here and nowhere else has saved me from all these cleverly packaged BS offers. We want to believe in people. That's the reason they succeed. Here at the Warrior Forum there actually be truth. Thanks again guys!!
Hmmn...Idea! Maybe I could develop some kind of an auto forward thingy to sell for your mail program that would instantly bring you here to WF when one of these get rich quicker mails pops up on the screen. Now that'd be a moneymaker for sure!
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Unread 29th September 2010, 01:26 PM   #65
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Thank you all Guys, so many of the Guys I trust sent me emails with this offer but I always check wf before I buy...and thank the powers that be for wf. save me a couple more dollars...
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Hey Guys

Like a lot of you I'm disillusioned by getting e-mails promoting this stuff from people I respect and who in the past I've got some value from by using their products. I actually wrote to one whose product I like explaining that folks are catching on and they're ruining their good reputations. Don't know if it will help but I feel better

Oh yeah, the rest I unsubscribed from.

Thanks to the WF reviewers for the work!
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Unread 29th September 2010, 02:57 PM   #67
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He is using his own affiliate id if you go to his site directly without anyone's affiliate link. This is just to increase the "Gravity" of the product. This is bad.
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Unread 29th September 2010, 03:49 PM   #68
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How does that increase the gravity?

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Thanks prmoise76, and all those that chimed in.
I appreciate everyone's input. Joining the Warrior Forum is the BEST investment I have made thus far in my "online" enterprise.
I am sooooo tired of too much hype and not enough substance. If the "guru's" (and I use that term very loosely) would just give us an honest product that delivered the goods they could write their own ticket.
Please understand that I am NOT singling out this particular product. It goes for most of the gems that are sent to us in our email inbox. We are inundated with super hype and results that cannot be achieved.
How about it guys, something of real value and substance please??
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Unread 29th September 2010, 04:50 PM   #70
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Does anyone get the $500 guarantee??
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Unread 29th September 2010, 05:06 PM   #71
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Does anyone get the $500 guarantee??
Are you serious really? This has been a part of new launches these days.

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I've been doing internet marketing now for over 15 years. So you can imagine that I get a ton of emails. Especially with launches like this one. You can bet that I will be unsubscribing from all of these "gurus" who are trying to "help" me with this amazing traffic scheme.

Thanks everybody for posting video reviews. Those are very helpful. I really hate blind products like these, but curiosity can get the best of me. Fortunately, I'm not shy about asking clickbank for a refund if I get taken.

Discounts? With just about any offer, I always try leaving first. Typically someone will either give you a lower offer if they're into a quick sale, or at the very least try to earn my loyalty by giving me something for free by subscribing to their list. Always try to leave first. I mean this is common sense right? You wouldn't just go onto a car lot and buy a car without trying to leave first would you? I once sold 13 cars in 13 days, and I had never sold a car before in my life. Fortunately for me, most people didn't use that tactic!

Finally.. PPC, CPV... I mean really. Do you really want dumb customers? People so dumb and so broke that they'll accidentally or even purposefully get software bundled with adware and spyware? Seriously? You want 17,000 of those people pounding your doorstep every day? I guess if you're into conning people out of money, then maybe that works.

For me, I doubled my traffic simply by tying my rss feeds to my facebook using RSS graffiti and rss feeds to twitter by auto posting with TweetAdder. Imagine that. Now send me $37!

And finally... if anyone, and I do mean anyone offers you a $500 "I'll pay you if this doesn't work" so-called Guarantee... close the window. Don't think about it, just close it. That should be your first clue that the stupid $37 product obviously requires hundreds if not thousands of dollars in additional expenses, and unless you somehow do it exactly like they imply, which could mean anything, then you'll never see that $500.
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The sales page states that only 500 copies are available. Of course we all know that is BS. But they just sent out an email to the affiliates that states over 10,000 units have been sold.

"Units sold within 24 HOURS = = > > 10,252 - Yes that wasn't aMIS-PRINT and over $580,000 in sales!!

Over expected... 10,000 units and $500,000. Surpassed BOTH."

So he EXPECTED to sell 10k units but clearly advertised that he would sell only 500 units. Now that is credibility my friends.

Now that all affiliates are aware of this, it will be interesting to see how many of them continue to promote it.

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For me, it really proved what I already knew...even many of what I previously considered as "trustworthy" affiliates / "gurus" have shown their true colors by promoting this product. Lean times or not, what is their integrity worth? I just unsubscribed from a TON of lists that I was on for a long time because they SHOWED me what it's worth. What a shame.

And the names of those that are promoting this? From what I have seen in my inbox, shocking - to say the least.

Thank you all for this internet marketing version of the Aberdeen Proving Grounds - right here at Warrior Forum. The honest reviews are more valuable than the products themselves, in most cases.

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Another garbage hype up product ...... and all those gurus that is promoting this has been unsubcribed from my list. This is what the IM world is becoming this day.
If they are willing to promote you thrash for a few bucks, can't imagine what they will do with the big product launches.

Ask for a refund guys ......
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Duh, I remembered that it was affexpert where all the tools including the url scraper are. Amazing that it used to be free.
And yes, there's Laser Url from Matt Hayward, who also provided tutorials. All totally Free.
But, as far as Adwords Digger goes, it's a great tool, but it doesn't do Exactly what is needed to replace this tool.
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I have seen the videos and read through some of the pdf's briefly.....

Frankly, I am puzzled as to why someone would jeopardize their business reputation, by putting out a product with a very misleading sales letter and NOT expect to get burned in the process....

I was very skeptical when I read the sales letter. I thought of all of the past programs that used to work on the internet, such as Traffic Equalizer and so on.....

Now, that was "push button".........when I delved into the Auto Mass Traffic program, I thought what the.....?????

This guy has now ruined his reputation. Many people have unsubscribed from many of the guru lists, just because of their blind promotion of this product.

I see the product STILL being promoted in emails to me. Even after all of the discontented reviews on the internet........so, my respect for them continues to lower.......

The ones that refused to promote it or slammed it (justly so), have earned more respect in my eyes.....

Wow, I wouldn't be surprised if they got a 90 percent or higher refund rate on this one......
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Actually the main problem is more with blind launches. If they actually tell before they sell there will be no problem at all.
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I am getting very angry now! I bought this horrible product and got my refund! But I keep getting an email from all the wanabe internet gurus promoting this garbage! How dare them!!! How in the world they could promote this garbage? All I am doing is unsubscribing from their list.

These so called wanabes internet gurus are not worth a peny if they are promoting this garbage!

Clickbank should remove this horrible product from their list!
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Here's a review on Youtube from a fellow warrior

Very interesting

YouTube - Auto Mass Traffic Rant - Don't Buy This Garbage

It is a very logical analysis... a great video to prevent IM newbie from falling into such crap product.
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To be quite honest with you I’m not bothered about the $37 or $27 price tag. This would have been dirt cheap if only Mr Latif had just spent a little time developing a half decent piece of software; even a simple submission software incorporating a couple of features that slightly improved upon other submission software on the market would have been fine.

REFUNDS:

I like to think of myself as a business man. I do not believe in buying something for $27 or $37 and then asking for a refund; that is too childish. Personally I would have just put it down to a business expense and made sure they did not catch me again. So I think that people in Internet Marketing forums most get away from this “refund mentality”. I do not think adult men and women should be buying things knowing full well in advance that they just want to check it out and then ask for a refund. One should request a refund only if the seller of the product grossly and completely misrepresented said product; which I cannot honestly say they did. However they are guilty of over-hyping the product and this is what I think upsets most buyers.

UPSELLS:

What I am really getting fed up with is the way these big gun marketers insult your intelligence with 101 up-sells and the way each up-sell degrades the initial product. You are made to feel like a stupid fool for clicking the “add to cart” button in the first place.

The only things worst than these over hyped $37 low ticket products are the gurus pitching their over hyped $1,997 products. They launch these expensive products with $2K price tags ONLY so that they can pay their big time affiliates $1,000 commissions.

This is all starting to make me puke!
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I like to think of myself as a business man. I do not believe in buying something for $27 or $37 and then asking for a refund; that is too childish. Personally I would have just put it down to a business expense and made sure they did not catch me again. So I think that people in Internet Marketing forums most get away from this “refund mentality”. I do not think adult men and women should be buying things knowing full well in advance that they just want to check it out and then ask for a refund. One should request a refund only if the seller of the product grossly and completely misrepresented said product; which I cannot honestly say they did. However they are guilty of over-hyping the product and this is what I think upsets most buyers.
Agree with everything you said except I will rather get my refund and donate to my favourite charity such as the Red Cross than letting this greedy misleading little marketer getting even a penny of it and all those "gurus" getting any affiliate cut from this product.
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"over hyping" is not misrepresenting?
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Firstly, Shane's video is great...

Secondly @DonDavis - the affiliates know what's going on from the outset. It happens week in, week out - scarsity on the sales page, a completely different story on the JV page.

Thirdly, if you're ever unsure about a product or want to get a behind the scenes look at what's going on, then visit the JV page for the product.

Step 1 - Run this search in Google

Step 2 - Find the JV page -> Here

And get the real story about the product launch.

Notice the section about upsells "that you can't be without".

That should tell you the real motivation of the marketer in question.

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Thanks for the description of the manual method - it does seem that for $27 a tool that makes this process much quicker would be useful. I am embarrassed to admit, I did buy the Auto Traffic Avalanche, very basic stuff we've all heard before, droning on and on, and I looked at the software - not impressed with it - but, is it the same as was stated here, does the same thing ultimately, as the auto mass traffic tool?

We are all so disgusted with the lies, it is hard to see a decent product in the morass. For example, yesterday there were "5 Softwares Left" - today, 211 - and I got an email promising $500 if it does not work for me! I agree with the warriors who say it is getting downright insulting, nitro-quattro gone nuclear.

Thanks for the reviewers, I always check the forum first, it is a great resource. Saves so much money, it is well worth the price of the War Room.
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AMT is CPV, if you have worked before with PPV networks, especially with leadimpact and directcpv then you don't need this.

The training material is really basic and doesn't reveal those spicy tricks that drive thousands of targeted traffic to your offer (unless you had read Rapid Mass Traffic).

The script (why recently everybody call a software to a freaking script?) search the URL based on a given keyword suposedly high ranked on Google, Yahoo and Bing, it gives you hundreds of them if you put a no-so-targeted-keyword. If you put a long tail keyword perhaps your results will be near to zero.

You copy those URL and put them into the "Fast Cash Software Plugin" another script that analyzes the commercial intention of the URL or Keyword.

You take those Commercial URL cut and paste into your CPV campaign.

The other *ahem!* softwares are URL crawler from amazon, youtube, ebay and others.

The problem is if you fail to get higly target URL or the buyer kind of keywords you probably will end with hundreds of thousands of visitors on your web site (more like page views) from people who are not interested on buy anything.

If you like it Rapid Mass Traffic but you find a hassle to find all those target URL then AMT is the missing tool.
If you don't like PPV or don't trust on their potential. Don't buy it.

PS: YES you will need a budget. Just do the maths: for those 867.981 visitors at $0.01 you will need to invest $8.679,81 in PPV with a 30 days ROI which is what Clickbank takes to send your check and you will need a Convertion Rate from at least 1%.
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I love it when I'm on someone's list and they promote crap. It's like saying "Hey there useless subscriber, the unsubscribe link is at the bottom of this email. You should click it. Seriously. DO IT! If you don't click it, you must be even dumber than I thought. Not clicking yet? DO IT NOW!" - Which usually sells me in on clicking the unsubscribe button and getting less junk in my inbox

Also, on the affiliate page, here's a funny quote:
"Stats : $37 launch price 50% commission via ClickBank. Price expected to increase. Up-sells are $67/$197/$77 (including recurring - tools you can't be without) - pays out 50% commission for you.

$37 + ($67 x 8 months recurring) + $197 + $77 = $847. Your take home is $423.50 (less CB fees)

I'm naturally very confident that I can make you a lot of money on launch, given my track record. I can proudly say that I expect the copy (written by myself yet again) to convert ahelluva lot better than any of my previous launches."


He's telling his affiliates that his product is crap without the upsells. Useless indeed.
The other cool thing is that his target market is IM'ers, who are usually used to affiliate marketing, and are very likely to check out the affiliate page first. Score!

And yet another funny thing... He mentions his last product "Rapid Mass Traffic". This one is "Auto Mass Traffic". Perhaps the next one is "Speedy Mass Traffic"? Or that products including "Mass Traffic" sells better? Who knows... At least I'm not getting this.

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where are the authors of this product? do they not know about the WF? (of course they do). you'd think somebody from "the company" would be here defending their honor.....all i notice coming from their direction is a real cool breeze...

greed is good. :-)
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where are the authors of this product? do they not know about the WF? (of course they do). you'd think somebody from "the company" would be here defending their honor.....all i notice coming from their direction is a real cool breeze...

greed is good. :-)
I believe the author is a active warrior already or at least was active. Agreed he should have the courage to enter the dialogue.
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Thanks to all of you guys! WF is really a great site and forum. I was saved again from buying such a product that don’t deliver. Than you again WF guys! YOU’RE ALL GREAT!!!
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Add John Chow to the list!

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I am still getting a multitude of emails from marketers promoting this product:

Russell Brunson <-- I bought it because of his recommendation
Adeel and Bobby <-- who I should have got it off considering the 17 bonuses offered.
Chris & Jerome
Reed Floren
Michael Jones
Dan Ambrose
George Kosch (from Worldprofit.com)
Dylan Loh
Michael Nicholas <-- With 8 free traffic videos
Matt Bacak
Russell Brunson - one more email received today received from him promoting it again!
Adeel and Bobby - another from them promoting it!

Also got a message from Latif at Rapid Mass Traffic (offering his own product for $27) <-- is Auto Mass Traffic the same product just reworked? I never liked the way Rapid Mass Traffic was promoted to me and I couldn't even get off the list.

I am sure I'll get more in the coming hours :/

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Love the cynical tone - COOL!

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And yet another funny thing... He mentions his last product "Rapid Mass Traffic". This one is "Auto Mass Traffic". Perhaps the next one is "Speedy Mass Traffic"? Or that products including "Mass Traffic" sells better? Who knows... At least I'm not getting this.

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Have any of the gurus or gurus wannabe that promoted this product retracted the offer or issued an apology to their list yet ?

I wouldn't know because I have unsubscribed.
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Add John Chow to the list!
Exactly, and it just goes to prove that most of these so called 'reputable Gurus' don't even test the product or they are willingly selling this rubbish knowing that its just that! I've never been a John Chow fan myself but I think a lot of these guys have just proved how greedy they are.

I would only promote a product to someone if I've tested it and KNOW it adds value to my customers. Reputation is everything!

Lets hope this rubbish either gets quicly fixed OR its taken off CLickbank etc!
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I am experiencing the same problems. Can't view videos. There site said tech support crashed but was back up. Also said they had so much traffic they had to switch servers and videos would be up late yesterday. I did hear from support and they told me to login, which I already did! Still no videos. After reading here that it is nothing but CPV I am just going to ask for a refund. Unfortunately, they really were not prepared for their launch!
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Have any of the gurus or gurus wannabe that promoted this product retracted the offer or issued an apology to their list yet ?

I wouldn't know because I have unsubscribed.
Not only I haven't received any apology, more and more emails are coming in from the same gurus about this product.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an apology....
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I think we've gotten the general idea...
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