lior1970

I've received several emails promoting Stealth Profit Machines by Chris Freville.
I'm wondering if any of the warriors on board tried this product and willing to share his/her opinion?

--Lior

aclacy

I am not sure too..


does this have anything to do with facebook advertising?

Also is there a video of the software in action?

J.Agnew.JD

If you exit the offer, there is a $10 discount... and then a message that it's sold out!?? I received the offer less than an hour ago from affiliate Todd Gross -- and Chris says he's selling "only" 300 "beta" copies.

Update: I went back through and it can be still be purchased for either $37 or $27

lior1970

It has nothing to do with Facebook advertising.
If you click the exit button you reach an opt-in which in return for your email is giving you a pdf with a screenshot of the software and it's not Facebook.

niceweb

The software is a wordpress builder, and an article finder so you can post content on it. Thats about it

stevorino

I purchased this to review for my customers.

My initial impression is thumbs down. The sales letter isn't just the usual over-hyped pitch. I'm counting the blatant lies.

The software that the author supposedly paid 50,000 to "genius" Russian programmers is nothing more than a Wordpress installer with a built in content scraper. The program also allows for the setup of contextual keywords with affiliate links.

That's it. That's the incredible 50,000 stealth software program. The Stealth Machines are Wordpress blogs.

There is quite a bit of educational material included that I haven't had time to look over. Maybe the author is hoping all the extra downloads will help customers forgive the deceptive sales letter that promises the creation of "Stealth Machines in 7 clicks".

This is a typical bait and switch. Promise push button money making software and follow up the sale with multiple persistent up-sells. Charge a low enough price that may keep many from seeking a refund when the truth about the product is revealed.

That's my take so far.

Steve

jayuk76

the dulcet mundane tone and way he was speaking was enough for me to delete the email.....the rest in terms of hype was also another reason to bin it...50,000 lol yeh right - in Monopoly money maybe!

neodarth

The copywrite looks just like the same of all recent crappy launches.

I've miss the "$500 back from my pocket to your paypal" guaranty though...

AndrewStark

Now I have put a proper review up on my blog, but overall I think Chris is charging a fair price for some excellent software.

I told him the blind copy was a bad idea, but he told me that this what converts best for who he thinks is his target audience. If it puts you off then don't buy and when the conversions drops off everyone will revert back to proper copywriting.

Use the exit pop-up to grab your discount and try it on a non IM niche for the best results.

stevorino

Proper review? Sorry... I read it and it's just another lame JV affiliate review.

====

Let's analyze a portion of the sales page shall we?

"If you've never made a dime online before, imagine being able to create a profit-pulling machine in just 7 clicks of your mouse..."

THIS IS A LIE. This implies that you just click 7 places and your stealth profit machine (Wordpress Site) is ready to go. There are no 7 clicks. It's a Wordpress installer so there are 16 fields that have to be filled out not including theme installation, plugin installation and content scraping decisions with 9 additional fields or choices to be made. And don't forget you have to have a hosting account purchased and setup with a domain in your niche which you need to research.

Now all of those chores may be reasonable. It's just the deception stating that it's as easy as 7 clicks that is unacceptable. Stop lying!

"It runs silently in the shadows and can quickly catapult you into that small circle of internet millionaires in no time."

BULL****. It's just a Wordpress installer and scraper with contextual keyword links and you are not going to be a millionaire using this software.

MORE CLAIMS:

"You don't need an existing website... "

Oh except for the Wordpress Installs but we will just call that a blog even though you still need to buy web hosting services and domains.

"You don't need any money to get started..."

Except for Domain names and hosting.

"You don't need to learn about SEO, link-building, Twitter, CPA, PPV or any of that..."

At your own peril

"No Work Required...
No Time Required...
Just Plug In And Profit!"

More fibs.

Bottom line the entire sales letter is over the top hype with ridiculous income claims and the software is nothing special.

I've noticed a trend in several scam products that have been released in recent months. They are all using the same deceptive sales pages promising 3 click push button income with over the top hype with a bait and switch piece of software. And strangely they have all been marketers from the UK. Sounds like they all went to the same seminar in the UK to learn how to fleece people using these deceptive sales tactics.

Now, if you need a piece of software that installs Wordpress, scrapes content, hyperlinks keywords with your affiliate link, and you don't want to use what's already available for free, then this software may be useful. Just don't fall for all the hype.

SMH

32paul52

I dropped in after checking out the sales page, I have to say afetr owning a couple of his products, this seems like a total change- not his normal style...........

imguru

What's the main link for this? I only get a million review sites when I google for Stealth Profit Machines

cypherslock

WP Robot - Premium Wordpress Autoposting Plugin is all you'll need I think.

infinite

Chris Freville's Stealth Profit Machines

Hope this helps.

Aaron

AndrewStark

How is my review lame when it has the same points that you make?

I openly state that I don't like the way that the offer is presented, hardly the copy & paste reviews that are dominating the top spots in google! I mention 3 niches that the software will work in, and that it does actually work in ~ 7 clicks.

Sure it does take a domain & hosting, time, and some effort, but if we all accepted reality then no-one would buy anything in the IM / diet niche every again. The reason people write copy like this is that people buy magic bullets expecting them to fail, but still buy hoping this will be the one.

Compared to the other crap on clickbank at the moment this product is actually good, so it's a sad reflection of what was taught at the affiliate X seminar.

People here will go in with their eyes open, and discussion like this will hopefully encourage potential product owners to avoid misleading and blind offers if they want to get warriors onto their buyers list and giving them glowing reviews.

Janet Sawyer

Well, I guess it would be if it worked, but, having spent a Looooooooong time today trying to add it to an existing blog I think there is room for improvement.
{And yes, I do know what I'm doing.}

There are other programs out there that do this, but you have to buy them all seperately, this is the first one that offers,
a *content scraper (don't use those I write my own articles)
a link cloaker (do use those )
a blog installer (I'll use fantastico thank you)

So essentially you are getting 3 programs and a great plugin for $27 (yes there are still 9 left at that price )

The additional stuff that Chris is offering is probably worth the $27 but having spent an hour downloading, I've not had time to unzip it or let alone watch it.

I've had a play with the content scraper and whilst I can't get the thing to post to my already installed blog, the articles are quickly accessed, (I used a really minute niche to test it - ) and they are good. I like the fact too that you can chose to keep the original authors bio box. Which is what everyone should do.

If you are lucky enough to be one of the "300" beta testers () then the $27 will not really be a waste of money, it'll be an investment in your business, not probably from the software, but from the bonuses and other information provided on the download page.

Hope that helps at least one person here.

paulie888

What Chris says here is telling, as it very clearly reveals that all this recent drivel (automated pushbutton software programs) is aimed at a very specific target market, i.e. clueless newbies searching for the magic bullet that makes them rich overnight.

I just read this rant by Frank Kern, and I truly feel that this is solid advice that ALL internet marketers need to live by!
You: The Best Guru EVER | Frank Kern Internet Marketing

neodarth

Despite the hype of the sales letter and the blind copy issues you have in SPM a great product. there are 2 upsells with its respective downsells.

The core product is a software who install wordpress on your site, adding the theme and the plugins and a content scraper.
The SPM plugin is a link cloaker.

The software and the plugin are not "the greatest thing on earth" but get the job done, and if you add all the really good content that Chris added you have a really good deal.

the content include videos and pdf that cover topics like:
- Affiliate Marketing
- List Building
- hosting and domain names
- Clickbank
- niche research
- Traffic
- email marketing
- product creation
- outsourcing
- Jv
- Product launch

As you can see is perfectly set for newbies and average marketers. More advanced users probably will not find any use of this and there are more advanced training and software in the market that cover all this in a more intensive way... But for $37? ($27 if you exit once). Perhaps if Chris make a split test using different sales copies, one with all the hype, scarcity, proofs, mistery and bold claims for newbies and other without the hype with a clear wysiwyg statement of what the software is and what the buyer will get.

PS. yes, I bought it, I'm testing and these are my first impressions (don't blame me I have a broken leg and plenty of time...)

stevorino

Incredible. Does honor, professionalism and truth in advertising mean nothing to marketers? We should just look the other way and allow a marketer to use sleazy, untruthful sales copy and sales techniques? I see several in here are just shills for the product making excuses for this behavior and overlooking the deception.

The software is misrepresented and weak but let's forget about that because the author uploaded a pile of content that may or may not be useful.

Let's forget about the fact the author has sucked you in with bald faced lies on the sales page. How can you trust anything in his content after that outrageous sales letter? Do you understand what being lied to means? Your intelligence is being insulted. You are too stupid in the eyes of the author not to recognize the lies and hype.

This is indeed a good thing for newbies. It's a lesson about unethical marketers and deceitful sales tactics that you should avoid if you want to preserve your reputation.

Part of the sales strategy is to charge a price low enough that will cause many to be too lazy to seek a refund even if they are disappointed. Ahh... it's just $27.00. Let him keep it because he loaded up a bunch of mediocre content to cover the deceptive advertising, hype and weak software.

It's time to put an end to this behavior that makes legitimate marketers look bad. You can do that with your wallet. Don't buy it in the first place and if you've already purchased it, and you are unhappy with it... get a refund and let the author know why.

One final point about the software. Even if it does work for you as an installer, this is the wrong way to install Wordpress. Wordpress should be installed manually with certain security precautions taken during the installation. Wordpress is one of the easiest scripts to install manually and anyone can learn to do it securely. You are leaving your site open for hacking with basic automated unsecured installs.

Steve

Organizationer

Hmm..I have just purchased. With 7 clicks in about less than 5minutes, my website setup.

Within 2 hours, I got 18,000 visitors, now I got $2,930 commission.

This software is awesome. Please buy from my affiliate link.

(above is some of the typical affiliate review that you may find, not an honest review)

gcintermed

I'm with you Stevorino...The unethical marketing of IM products hurts everyone, as it a) makes it difficult to know who to believe and what to trust, and b) makes it harder to sell anything without making outrageous claims.

These marketers are the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen. They travel around without a brand or reputation, looking to make quick bucks.

A marketer's first task should be to establish trust. Let's reject over-hyped marketing.

AaronSnider

I got this from Frank a few minutes ago...

<========================>


I meant to send you this earlier, so I am truly
sorry if it already sold out, considering it's
so CHEAP for an awesome piece of Software!

I actually can't believe he's not keeping this
Software to himself, which is probably why
there are less than 300 available.

Click here to get Your Copy

Chris Freville spent a lot of money to have this
Software developed by scary genius
Russian programmers, so that YOU can
make a LOT of money online.

The best part is that no one will see how you
are doing it.

Click here to Download Software

Seriously, all you have to do is download the
software, click 7 times and brace yourself for the
flood of traffic and sales, and money.

Frank

Download Here Now




...
4091 5th Ave. - G5, Lake Charles, LA 70601, USA.
Click here to unsubscribe


<=========================>

paulie888

Unbelievable! I have a strong feeling that these Gurus segment their mailing lists meticulously though, and only mail offers that they think are suitable to their target market on that list. I am on one of Frank's lists also, but I never received that email which you got!

AaronSnider

yeah I really like frank, i'm not sure why he sent out this one...

jasondinner

I think they are confusing Franks. Frank Kern doesn't write like that.

And that's not his address either. He doesn't live anywhere near Louisiana

davemiz

LOL thats DEF. not kern.... but his last blog post is a MUST-READ.

what i find interesting.... is all the talk about the lies on the product... yet you guys all celebrate and kiss all these copywriters rear ends like they're some kinda wizard or something.

the copywriters are the ones writing this stuff.... not the product owners (but both are to blame).... go give them crap about writing this.

magill

I downloaded it as a beta tester and have gone through most of the videos. They are
detailed and fairly easy to follow. Chris has also included some very useful bonus information.

I don't think I could get a site up in one day -the lag between grabbing a good domain
and getting it forwarded to my hosting account is at least 24hrs - but if you already have a blog in a niche you're happy with and can find some offers on clickbank or where ever, you could get a good start in one day.

If you have the link to become a beta tester and are willing to risk $37 for a 60 day trial,
I say go for it.

magill

Chris Freville has a B+ rating on IMReportcard. I actually found the sales page to be entertaining. There were no pictures of a mansion with a swimming pool surrounded by scantily dressed women leaning on rented expensive Italian cars.

wordwizard

I agree. In fact, I think there are several "Frank" clones out there, including "frankcontrol" -- trying to mooch off of Frank's name.

lefty359

Matt Garret sent a video on how to use setup the software. Actually it looked pretty
good because it sets up a WP blog without using Fantastico so it I'm thinking it may be a more secure installation. I've read more than a few experts say Fantastico is not
a secure installation.

stevorino

No. The installation created using the SPM software is not secure. It's a standard installation. It will be a roll of the dice for getting hacked. You can secure it after the install if you know how, but it's better to install it manually and securely the first time.

Steve

paulie888

Thanks for pointing that out, Jason. There are probably at least several people out there who attempt to do Frank Kern impersonations so as to leverage off his name, lol.

jasondinner

Anytime Paulie888

CharlieGosh

RE: "Frank" (not Kern) -- He also sent me a pitch for SPM. His email is frankcontrol@live.co.uk, but his 'address' is in Louisiana. A quick check on Google Maps shows an apartment complex at 4245, the one south of that is 4247. His address puts him in a clump of trees halfway to a fitness center.

frankcontrol@live.co.uk
4091 5th Ave. - G5, Lake Charles, LA 70601, USA

So much for truth in advertising. I'll stay on his list just so I'll know what to avoid in the future.

Byrt M

Cypherslock
Thanks pal - I am looking into the link you sent, just what I need - appreciate it. There are so many shady offers these days my scam radar keeps beeping all the time.
Byrt

Byrt M

Steve
As I said earlier, my scam-radar keeps beeping more and more these days. But I also want to encourage you that amongst all that manure a rose grows every now and then
Byrt

Mark Dulisse

$50k in software development?

I do a lot of software development.

Do you realize what you can get developed for $50k? Basically, you can hire the best coder for almost an entire year for $50k. And all you get is a wordpress installer?

I would pay maximum $250 for development.

ukstar

I'm still using EWP by Alex and Dmitry and that's free, but I don't use the quickinstall, always set up a database. Then add caffeine and Utility Poster and use UP daily, backlinks gone through the roof. Thanks to members for their reviews, another $27/37 saved.

lefty359

Matt Garrett showed 2nd video he made himself on adding content. This looks pretty good to me for $27 and I'm going to buy it. I just don't think i'll use it right away, but be nice to have on hand for my next website.

wortell

Well, i'm typically all for capitalism, and the 'i'll show you better' gurus... because there's a place for everyone...

but when a product goes arie, is when the expected results aren't indeed even *close* to what the hyped up product/sales pitch was conveying.

no, not the 'promised riches' - but the actual process, and the 'keys' that you think you are getting to "get" [or have an advantaged approach to] riches.

every once in awhile I toe dip, thinking hmm... new guy, could be something unique, I'd like to have content sites as a way introducing alternative income sources to my business,... and I [gulp!]

yes, I...

bought it

To put it bluntly - I'd rather pay 10x as much for something that not only looked better (the thing I paid for) but worked on a much more professional (non-home grown) manner in which this is built upon.

I'm not going to go into details, but i've bought programs with price tags with commas online... and the Main Product purchase was worth *SO MUCH MORE* and I loved it...

it didn't need to be piled high with fluff - so as to seem like i got my money's worth, they *were* my money's worth.

unfort. i don't think this product matches - even close - what i could be, or what it's stated to be.

if you like watching four-billion hours of video on the how-tos of basic internet marketing.... well all I can say is that you get what you pay for, but it's a go!

if you're a hard corer like me... or more importantly - average marketer then I'd say it's an ix-ney on the buy-ey.

(normally don't rant, but had to in this case, cuz I bought)

oh yeah and the refund promptly ensued thereafter. Heck, after reading the pdf file, and taking a look at what I got... i never even *stuck* the product on my server, didn't even install it... that's how frustrated i was.


re: @stevorino

I didn't read your post - until about to submit this one... I *ditto* EVERYTHING you say!

thanks for taking the time to address the detailed issues re: his salescopy and product results.

to add to that and my above .... I sent a personal email to ClickBank (probably get ban*ned from it) addressing how I wish they'd take some time into looking at the actual product before pushing it to the marketplace.

disgusts me... dang i'm frustrated right now.

Thomas Buckley

i think its quite ok im going to test it for a week like he says in the sales pitch.. its Basically A content scraper mixed with a wordpress installer Plus themes and a Link cloaker.

Downside is it doesnt post tags on each post..

wortell

right, plus - it's a very manually intensive setup....

in fact, even cautionary statements like "careful not to tag words that are like your 'title' etc... cuz it'll link those too"

a *truly* experienced coder would take 2-5 more lines (or heck a 1-2 liner regex negation) to exclude those words.

would *love* to hear the results.

It might be a good product for someone who wants to create content driven sites and then 'sell-em'

lefty359

16 yr old, it's also supposed to inbed affiliate links into the conent. Did it accomplish that task?

kenwarrior

Don't forget the coder spent the rest on Vodka LOL

boknows

I have about 600 sites. I am always looking to automate and replicate, with value and uniqueness. So any tools that are not from the major crooksters out there are fair for me to buy and try.

Right NOW his site is DOWN.
This is selling better than he could imagine but the offer, the hard hype, the pop unders and oto's are WAY over the top. This is hypester gone wild. So, it has brought his site down in the last 10 minutes.

Buy it an try it. There are many good concepts and features and you will find many things to discover. It is cumbersome, I like the integrated articles, links and cloaking with cool variables.

However the videos and clunky nature are a bit lame and unprof. However, this is worth the 27 and you can even by it through your favorite affiliate and return it if you don't like it.

Once the site comes back and I can iron out a few issues, I plan on keeping it. You cannot beat the price. Period.

Scott Henderson

I normally stay way away from these types of products, but a good friend and colleague got this and gave it a very positive review, mostly based on the price and what you are getting in return.

So based on his recommendation I jumped in. I must say that all of the elements are nothing new, but packaged together, scrapping, link cloaking, WP install, do make it an attractive offer.

Get this if you want to simplify these tasks, skip it if you don't.

May not be for everyone, but it does function as stated in the site. Plus all of the content that comes with it really make this a no brainer for $37/$27.

paulie888

I know, I think he added that story about the Russian programmers for dramatic effect, LOL! I don't for a second believe that he paid anywhere near $50k for the software development.

snapcontent

Post content BY HAND???? OMG. Stone Age.

Hope it was Smirnoff!!!

barryc

OK, has anyone who bought this actually started it & made money?

Y/N

g2114

I would like to know as well. Saw the email today and glad I saw this thread. I wasn't sure if it was worth the investment.