Mangozoom

Just watched the presentation for the new 'Kajabi' wonder platform for marketing.

24.06 passed in no time at all ... this system looks amazing.

Just wonder how much it will cost?

Anyone else interested in Kajabi or got any experiences of it?

John

MichaelHiles

I'll pass. I don't think that having your content, your sales data, your list, your autoresponder, your membership, etc... in a single point of failure location makes very good business sense.

By piecemealing my systems together, I have backup provider strategies for everything.

As with any SaaS or hosted service, there is most certainly downtime, and that can be extremely risky/costly.

It's a good idea, and I'd consider buying it as an app for my own servers. But no way no how as a subscription service.

TelZilla

Nope. Not even a little bit.

While I agree that the concept is a good one, and I would consider purchasing parts of it, there is just something about it I don't like...

As for the video, lots of talk...very little substance.

I grew bored after 5 minutes and started skipping through it.

I will say, whoever wrote the script is very good.

Vincenzo Oliva

These gurus know the #1 attraction to appeal to the IM wannabes is automation, total and complete, sit back in your lawn chair and count your money automation.
I'm sure this will be priced like Stompernet service, $500-$800 a month. I'd be surprised if I were wrong.

Kevin Riley

No thanks. Like what I've got. Don't like jumping on bandwagons.

CurtisN

In a recent promotional email, Frank Kern mentioned that he gets $40 per as an affiliate.

So yeah...Kajabi doesn't cost $500-$800 a month unless Frank's content with 5-8% commissions

TelZilla

If that's true it'll probably be around $69/month and Frank will probably be getting a residual each month. That's the only thing that would truly make it worthwhile to promote.

KBRMS

Curtis,

Maybe, 40.00 per month per signup he sends through. I got the same promo email. Nice flashy production though. I liked it but won't be buying into it. I agree, don't like all my eggs in one basket.


Rick

newbim

Hello!

Hmmm... tough one! The script is excellent and the video's not bad. However, I'm not a fan of bandwagons either, (they're not that comfortable, and the wheels fall off regularly making for a rather uncomfortable journey) besides which, you know for a fact that everyone will jump straight on and before too long, sales pages will all look the same again, and people will start leaving the site because they know what to expect from the drawn out launch process.

I recently saw a post on here that played hidden recordings from two marketers discussing unmentionable tactics that didn't make me think too highly of them.

I don't want to upset anyone by saying who the marketers were, they could be anyone.

I agree with an earlier reply - and, on top of it, there's nothing to stop anyone with that much of your information holding it to ransom (and I'm not suggesting that anyone ever would) but there is always a risk in something like that - stranger things have happened. And especially in IM, where information is where the money is....

Another thing, is it just me, or does the creator of the product use himself as a testimonial on their own site?

(BTW I don't think the 'recordings post' is still up - I couldn't believe what I heard though. Since then.... errr.... no ta... where's that unsubscribe button... ah yes!).

Cheers,

Newbim.

THK

I think I read somewhere that price is going to be something between $90-$100.

To answer your question, I'll pass.

Tanvir

Tallpplrule

Hi John,

It does look amazing! It blew me away too, so I had to become an affiliate. I can't reveal the price, but it is WAY less that I thought it would be. If you want to know the price, become an affiliate. The link is on the bottom right of the page and says, "Become an affiliate".

- Ryan

lifeonfire

I'm sticking to PWC and other services that provide more depth in each area. It's really hard to find apps that do everything great. K is hitting the high points for newbies and wannabes. I'm passing.

Life

DannyUK

Passing. Looks like another dose of style over genuine substance.

frodo77

The usual overhyped sales pitches etc etc. I will pass.

dremora

If it's being promoted by the usual guru circle, I stay the hell away from it. 20 emails in my inbox promoting it.... means it's bad news.

jpeguero

Pass, not convince

Juan

Charles Harper

The rumors are that the system will cost $97/mo.

Although, looking at it (the system); that does not sound very credible.

I have been saying and still say, that the curse of industrialism is still with us. What attracts us to these solution is not having to integrate these things, and doing less thinking.

The key is the owner. Will the owner use the increased automation to provide more value to the client? If so, then the expense is justified as a long term investment. If the owner uses the increased synergy and automation to put lipstick on pigs; it may make he or she money, but I would think that over time the scales will tip to Andy, and co. making the money.

The system itself is innovative, but if it doesn't lead to the owner's increasing their innovation of value to the client, it is not a worthwhile solution.

And if the owner is the key to creating the value that generates cash flows, then this system may or may not make him better.

Charles

CurtisN

So gurus never ever promote anything worthwhile?

tryinhere

i got bored about 5 minutes in and deleted it

Keith Gilbert

Passing on this one. I honestly don't see the value of it. It's all stuff you can set up within a couple minutes by yourself.

Mario Brown

I'm going to sign up the second it goes live.

Not because of the hype or anything like that, just because it makes a lot of sense for the way my business is set up.

I'm launching something new basically every month and I hate do deal with technical stuff, so not having to set up Wordpress blogs, membership scripts, a forum, sueeze pages and so forth while allowing me to launch products more professionally, makes sense to me.

Will definitely try it out and see how it can help my business.

By the way, Andy Jenkins mentioned at the List Control seminar that it's going to be $97/month.

All the best,
Mario

Shannon Herod

Judging by the syndicate trend, my guess would be it is going to be a $1997 setup fee and then $97 - $147 a month.

Not interested in it though. You can do exactly what it does with Wordpress and Digital Access Pass.

Shannon

Shannon

Marty S

From what I can tell Michael, I don't think this requires you to do that. For example, you can still use a system like aweber if you want. I have no intention of leaving them, but I may add new lists with Kajabi if I decide to go with them. I also do not mind at all having everything in one place. Really no different than a typical website and access I have set up with any current host. It's called back-up.

I am not a IM wannabe having been at this full time for 5 years now, but I DO wannabe better at execution and delivery.

I am not one for bandwagons either Kevin, but if the bandwagon is gonna help me sell more, I am on it - even it it means paying for Andy Jenkin's Friday Night Pasta Party.

I believe that would be unfair competition and could land somebody in jail. Besides, it would be in Andy's best interest to NOT do such a thing so as to maintain - potentially one of the bestest betterest ever IM continuity memberships.

Agreed with that. Not only, using all the other syndicate dudes in this video just wreaks. I want REAL examples from wankers I can relate to.

Hmmm... The video explained a lot of substance IMHO.

It does NOT have to make the user more creative - I think it's all about execution. I have had projects on the shelf for months (seriously) too long. Creativity is NOT what I am short on. I need a way to bring videos to market that isn't going to take me hours/days/weeks to set up. The thought of that alone makes me put tasks aside and that in itself costs money.

I am NOT sold on this yet, but am seriously considering it, because this is simply where I am right now. I also look at it this way - I have been paying $100/month to webvideozone for years, simply to host my membership videos. So I don't see Kajabi as over-priced if it's right there as well. There is also another site called Traindom which looks kind of similar so I will be comparing the two and will probably try both.

Kurt

If you have cpanel/whm hosting, it includes a feature called a "skeleton directory". Anything you install into this skeleton folder will be installed automatically every time you add a new domain name.

There are limitations with the skeleton directory, mainly with MYSQL will neeed to be configed by hand...

Charles Harper

Dang Kurt....that was good stuff right there

CT

Charles Harper

Shannon, my MAIN man....long time no hear from.

I guess that $1997 set up fee will keep out the tire kickers (like me).

It strikes me that this is not a product that I need right now.

I think if I were Mario (launching a new product on a regular basis), maybe it would be for me now.

But I may have to plod through with Wordpress, etc. for now. I will get it when it is time, but not now. If it is what they say it is, it will become as Wordpress is for marketers and everyone will eventually just have to get it to do business.

What I like about this (Kajabi) is that all of the platforms will have to step their game up and that is ultimately good for everyone in the marketing community. So even if I do not buy today, it is my guess that everyone (Wordpress, Joomla, etc.) will have to rise to be more user friendly, more push button and more synergistic or risk becoming somewhat irrelevant over time.

Why is that important? Because switching platforms assumes that the others will never step their game up and that is not the case. Let's say that in seven months, somebody has a break through with Wordpress, will I then want to switch back? Kajabi is terrific, no doubt, but the marketing kind of gets you assuming that nothing else will rise in development and that the other platforms will never change. I can't say with 100% certainty, but there will be more progress in a decent period of time, that I don't have to get Kajabi NOW.

CT

CT

Mario Brown

Hey Kurt,

I'm aware of many helpful plug ins and tools, but I don't want to deal with all of that stuff. People always say that everything that Kajabi does can be done in 5 minutes.

I don't think that's true, not for people like me that are not technical.

You already lost me there mentioning skeleton directories, skeleton folders, MYSQL and so forth, I just hate to deal with technical stuff and for somebody like me Kajabi is just absolutely perfect, especially because it also makes my launche look extremely professional from now on ....without me needing to know anything about html, mysql, setting up forums, membership scripts etc.

All the best,
Mario

oneplusone

I don't believe there will be any $1997 set up fee, I think it will be a straight $97/month.

I believe Andy said something about this in the Video Boss course.

If I'm wrong and there is any set up fee, it will probably be low.

One piece of good news if you are joining, is that Andy Jenkins did provide the best customer service I've seen in a while with his Video Boss course earlier this year.

For a good 3-4 months he went into the members area and answered questions personally, and even gave detailed video replies to members.

If he provides the same level of customer service for this, I think people who join will be happy.

Martin Luxton

So, have you actually tested the product or are you going to sell it based on watching a promotional video?


Martin

CDarklock

Let me put it this way.

I just finished up a product this evening.

It took me just under two hours to configure all the additional crap related to it: product entries in E-Junkie, AWeber list for the product, campaign codes to track traffic sources, WSO copy, sales page, OTO page, subscription confirmation page, coupon codes and products for the OTO, initial confirm and welcome mails for the list.

But each and every one of the individual tasks took... well, about five minutes.

It's just that there were slightly more than twenty of them.

Maybe five minutes isn't that important to you, but five minutes over and over and over again adds the hell up, and that certainly matters to me.

Anonymous Affiliate

Kajabi is just a platform, nothing else. A platform without the content and marketing savvy is useless. Kajabi is only for guys who're already making good money with their current platforms and they'd like to "prettify" them.

Mangozoom

Well chaps I have to say that I love the depth and scope of the responses. Personally I still like the potential that this new platform seems to offer but would like to see some REAL LIVE case studies and in depth evidence before I jump on board.

Did like the video and thought it was very professionally done.

Still trying to figure out the name KAJABI ... think it stands for Kick Andy Jenkins About It

John

deannatroupe

I think I'm going to pass on this one. I need to focus on creating revenue streams with what I already have at my disposal (which is quite enough for me).

Bill_Z

This is pretty much my opinion as well. It is probably pretty useful to a very small percentage of IM'ers.

Mario Brown

Yep and it doesn't even stop there. Once you got all that set up, it doesn't necessarily look professional. But not only that, it took you two hours because you knew what you're doing, think about all the guys that struggle with setting up the whole process.

And let's not forget affiliate tracking, or the fact that Kajabi gives you your own affiliates area, where you can communicate with them and they can communicate amongst each other.

Anyway, not trying to push the product here, just trying to make clear why it's perfect for me in my opinion. Long story short, I think it allows the little guy to create professional looking launches and membership sites and all the other good stuff without having to learn how to set up everything individually.

All the best,
Mario

Zero

The name KAJABI is a aborignal word that means something like 'to take flight'. He mentioned it in the video.

I saw the video, loved that. Saw what it can do....does look like something i can see myself getting, but maybe not quite yet, because i'm not at a stage where i'd be able to use it.

I am all for stuff that simplifies stuff i takes me forever to already do. I like the features it has.

jayman

For me, I will pass. As someone mentioned, the usual over hype promotion from the same guru circle

cma01

There really is no comparison between Wordpress and Joomla and Kajabi. Kajabi is a propriety subscription service. Wordpress and Joomla are open source platforms. Do you really think the developers of either are going to care if you go with something else? They aren't making money off of you anyway.

I read about this a few months ago and was talking with someone that was waiting for this to come out to launch something.

Personally, if my inbox gets dumped with a load of emails from people promoting it . . . I'm skeptical. If it seems like there is more hype than substance behind it, I'll pass.

Not to say this wouldn't be a good option for some people, it's just right now all it is is sales pitch. The real proof will come after people start using it.

I like being able to do my own thing and if you get a platform that is supposed to make it "push button," that usually means you give up flexibility. But I don't mind digging in and figuring things out. Some people don't want to do that.

I put the most faith in people who are in the trenches actually "doing," not ones that focus on selling one IM product after another to people looking for the next "quick fix." If the people I consider my own gurus start talking about it, I may take another look.

LB

Serious question...how does Kajabi change anything when you have a new product?

You still need to create new entry in Kajabi, a new list with new messages, a new traffic campaign, new sales copy, new WSO copy, new OTO copy, new confirmation pages, new coupons, etc. etc.

Sure Kajabi centralizes it...but that also means one point of failure and I don't see that much of time reduction.

In addition, you have to question whether you want ALL your data in one location in the hands of other internet marketers.

I've looked around and there are numerous other solutions out there that seem to do much of the same...Kajabi seems to be targeted at the whole "make money online" launch process which is rarely the most effective route in outside niches.

For example, Adobe Business Catalyst is run by Adobe...and is a lot less money.

There's numerous other options as well if you look outside of "internet marketing" circles.

Kurt

This is a very good point. The folks that have all your data can also be your competitors in many cases.

Peter Olson

I've been hearing that kajabi is just a white labeled version of Adobe Business Catalyst .

I just use drupal... it handles membership stuff (ubercart), quick and simple landing pages (panels + mediafront) and then I just use whatever flava of email marketing system...

alexshelton

I'll be using it, in fact I'm very excited to get it up and running.

Ken Strong

Once again: no threads for products that aren't even being sold yet. This isn't the place for pre-promotion.