Media Traffic Meltdown Reviews?

by Desmond Ong 119 replies
Anyone seen it yet?

Just got into media buying and kinda tight on time so just wanna know if this course is worth the time?

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
    I haven't seen it yet but I can vouch
    for Cindy and she is awesome and creates
    quality Products

    I will post an Honest review back here after I
    have Seen the Product

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  • Profile picture of the author fayehines
    It's seems OK, but I would take the $4.00 7 Day Trial. I was going to buy it but I'm not interested in buying Media advertising. I love things free.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    I've bought it. So far no videos nor PDF's are available

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    My mistake. They are available
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    • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
      Originally Posted by trytolearnmore View Post

      I've bought it. So far no videos nor PDF's are available

      Edit:

      My mistake. They are available
      And how many upsells/downsells did you get?
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

        And how many upsells/downsells did you get?
        I'd be interested in hearing about that too. I don't want to buy a product for $37 only to find out that to REALLY make the program work I need to spend $XXX.XX.

        I'm not saying that they're doing that with this product but I hate it when a sales letter says you'll learn x, y, and z for $37 only to find out that you need to spend 5 times more to really learn anything of value.
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        • Profile picture of the author Amber Jalink
          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          I'd be interested in hearing about that too. I don't want to buy a product for $37 only to find out that to REALLY make the program work I need to spend .XX.

          I'm not saying that they're doing that with this product but I hate it when a sales letter says you'll learn x, y, and z for $37 only to find out that you need to spend 5 times more to really learn anything of value.
          Exactly. GSneak did that. It was implied that it was all part of it IN the sales letter... then you got hit with FOUR upsells/downsells. All in all, several hundred dollars if you took them all.
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        • Profile picture of the author Zero
          I got an email a short time ago by Gauher Chaudhry, and he gave it the course a thumbs up, and i take that to be a positive sign seein as how he's a 'guru' on this and how he has launched such scathing attacks on the recent $37 clickbank launches.
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        • Profile picture of the author wbrant
          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          I'd be interested in hearing about that too. I don't want to buy a product for $37 only to find out that to REALLY make the program work I need to spend .XX.

          I'm not saying that they're doing that with this product but I hate it when a sales letter says you'll learn x, y, and z for $37 only to find out that you need to spend 5 times more to really learn anything of value.

          Hey Adam!

          Yes... there are a few upsells... Soren, Cindy and JP are marketers, you know...but nothing that's *mandatory* to get the basic product to work. Just some little extras to really *Oomph* your success!

          P.S. If you need further help, our support desk is here:
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          • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
            Originally Posted by wbrant View Post

            Hey Adam!

            Yes... there are a few upsells... Soren, Cindy and JP are marketers, you know...but nothing that's *mandatory* to get the basic product to work. Just some little extras to really *Oomph* your success!

            P.S. If you need further help, our support desk is here:
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            Haha, thanks William u were faster than me.... grr!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author adamv
              Alright then. I'll probably go ahead and check it out for myself a little later this afternoon. I've got a project I need to finish and if I buy this first I won't be able to control myself, I'll end up watching the videos and not finishing my project.
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        • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          I'd be interested in hearing about that too. I don't want to buy a product for $37 only to find out that to REALLY make the program work I need to spend .XX.

          I'm not saying that they're doing that with this product but I hate it when a sales letter says you'll learn x, y, and z for $37 only to find out that you need to spend 5 times more to really learn anything of value.
          I totally understand what you are saying - and we have done our darndest to avoid this approach. Yes, when you login, you will see upsells and downsells. The course that you buy for $37 is completely solid and none of the upsells at any time belittle what you get for $37. They are there to complement the product, not to tell you that it's fail unless you buy everything.. lol

          We have seen that in a few of the more recent launches and it drives me crazy probably as much as it does for you.

          Everything we have put together here, is high quality - and the upsells could have quite easily been products released in their own right, we just used them as part of the sales process, rather than releasing them on their own, because it was a great match

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          • Profile picture of the author Byrt M
            Cindy
            I am kinda glad you popped by to chip in. The assurance you gave about your 'upsell' has moved me closer to the Buy button, but I am not there yet. What I am going to say has NO reflection on your product. In fact, I am inspired by what you said.

            This message needs to be heard: When will marketers ever learn the simple, simple basic understanding that customers are the life blood of any online or offline business, that by treating them with some level of appreciation is good for business? You would think this is basic 101 stuff, apparently not.

            Its wrong and its a fundamental flaw for marketers to trap trusting buyers, while inside the buying process, with 3, 4 and 5 upsells. Now, I understand we are all marketers and we are here to learn something and to make a buck (no illusions there) - I have no issues with the upsells BUT to make each incremental up-sell insult you as if what you bought was actually inferior is infuriating and insulting - pure snake-oil methods that shouldn't belong here.

            What gets me is that I find it hard to believe well-known marketers still do this type of selling approach - haven't we learned anything? You would think that with all the effort they put into a launch their main goal would be to secure long term sales (low refunds) and to win a new list of buyers (high level of customer trust) - well its seems not!

            Cindy, thank you for what you said and for your transparency, it makes this forum still a trustworthy place. Thanks.
            Byrt
            PS: Oh yes, I am coming back later today to push that 'Buy' button (based on what I have read in this thread and your replies) - I am just about to rush off to a client but no doubt I will feedback my 5 cents worth later
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      • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
        Originally Posted by dimeco View Post

        And how many upsells/downsells did you get?
        3-4 I think. I've just skipped through them
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      Please let us know!

      You may need to enable java, and/or popups... as the
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    I've always find media buying a bit risky, now the proposal of MTM looks very doable... I wonder how strong has to be the investment to make it work.

    By the way when I first saw the sales letter I thought 'OMG! another freaking hyped blind sales letter!' but as read through it I found it really transparent guess I could give it a shot.
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  • Profile picture of the author freedomguy
    When I first saw this being promoted I thought, "not another of these $37 teaser crap products" that we've seen so many of lately. The sales page even looked the same as a lot of recent launches that have been panned here. I even ignored the avalanche of emails. But then I saw who the authors were and, on the basis of the reputation of these guys and the few comments here, I pitched up for the $4.97, 7 day trial.

    Yes, there are upsells, trials, super upsells, downsells etc. But not with rubbish and not mandatory, though getting through them to the main product took a lot of scrolling down and clicking on the "no thanks". However, I've had a look at the first few videos and the mindmap and this reminds me very much of my "real" marketing career before the internet. It's the first thing I've seen in 15 years online that brings conventional/traditional marketing to the internet. The intro video gives a good grounding and the others then go on in a logical step by step manner to cover a lot of ground.

    Will you make money with this? If you do what most peple do and buy it, watch the first ten minutes of video and then leave it to gather dust - NO!! I reckon you need to watch the videos a few times to grasp the potential here and, whilst the content is good, the presentation could be more slick and professional. But not at all bad in internet terms.

    At $37 bucks, this is a good education in an alternative to the usual online marketing methods. The big companies are doing this because it more closely equates to what they have been used to for years, as a 30+ years marketer it felt very familiar to me. The difference is it's more affordable than the offline equivalents.

    I won't be cancelling within 7 days so you'll be getting my extra 32 bucks Cindy :-). I might well go back and take a look at the upsell offers, the first one (a piece of interesting looking software) could be a good timesaver and it has a 7 day trial too.

    My verdict, go give it a try, if nothing else you'll get a good education on an area little know to the general IM crowd.

    Stay cool

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    • Profile picture of the author abo28
      How much money does it take to put this system to work? How much do you need to invest (monthly, yearly)? I'm asking that because, as far as I know, media buying is pretty expensive, not very affordable for a "small guy".
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      • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
        Originally Posted by abo28 View Post

        How much money does it take to put this system to work? How much do you need to invest (monthly, yearly)? I'm asking that because, as far as I know, media buying is pretty expensive, not very affordable for a "small guy".
        Hi! Actually, this is probably one of the biggest myths, and why a lot of people don't get into media buys... because they think it's all to pricey. You can get started on this for well under $100 - starting with as little as $5-$30.

        The point of it all is to start low anyway, you want to test some of the traffic and then once you find something that works - and is making you a lot more money, then you can ramp it up.

        Our course walks you through the entire tracking/testing and calculating process to make sure that you don't lose out. We have done our best to help remove any barriers for people just starting out, to get in there and succeed. I hope you like it!!

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      Originally Posted by freedomguy View Post

      When I first saw this being promoted I thought, "not another of these $37 teaser crap products" that we've seen so many of lately. The sales page even looked the same as a lot of recent launches that have been panned here. I even ignored the avalanche of emails. But then I saw who the authors were and, on the basis of the reputation of these guys and the few comments here, I pitched up for the $4.97, 7 day trial.

      Yes, there are upsells, trials, super upsells, downsells etc. But not with rubbish and not mandatory, though getting through them to the main product took a lot of scrolling down and clicking on the "no thanks". However, I've had a look at the first few videos and the mindmap and this reminds me very much of my "real" marketing career before the internet. It's the first thing I've seen in 15 years online that brings conventional/traditional marketing to the internet. The intro video gives a good grounding and the others then go on in a logical step by step manner to cover a lot of ground.

      Will you make money with this? If you do what most peple do and buy it, watch the first ten minutes of video and then leave it to gather dust - NO!! I reckon you need to watch the videos a few times to grasp the potential here and, whilst the content is good, the presentation could be more slick and professional. But not at all bad in internet terms.

      At $37 bucks, this is a good education in an alternative to the usual online marketing methods. The big companies are doing this because it more closely equates to what they have been used to for years, as a 30+ years marketer it felt very familiar to me. The difference is it's more affordable than the offline equivalents.

      I won't be cancelling within 7 days so you'll be getting my extra 32 bucks Cindy :-). I might well go back and take a look at the upsell offers, the first one (a piece of interesting looking software) could be a good timesaver and it has a 7 day trial too.

      My verdict, go give it a try, if nothing else you'll get a good education on an area little know to the general IM crowd.

      Stay cool

      John
      Hi John! Thank you so much for your kind words!!! Soooo appreciated, in the midst of all of this hectic chaos to know that all of the work we have put into creating these things is noticed. I'll pass this on to the rest of the team, sure it will give them a smile!

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  • Profile picture of the author ShaunAllen
    Can you sell your own information products with media buys or are the people more receptive to tangible products you would find on commission junction?

    I have a fitness information product that would be much cheaper to promote with media buying than on Adwords.
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    • Profile picture of the author wbrant
      Originally Posted by DaveJ13 View Post

      Can you sell your own information products with media buys or are the people more receptive to tangible products you would find on commission junction?

      I have a fitness information product that would be much cheaper to promote with media buying than on Adwords.
      Hey Dave,

      You can sell them anything at all.. by targeting what they're already looking for... they'll have no choice but to take your offer!

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  • Profile picture of the author ham.bone
    Kudos on the transparency of the sales letter. Very refreshing to the latest trend of "this is what it is not" and leading you blindly. Very well done! This is an area that I need to learn more about, so I think you can count me in...

    Great timely answers on here as well, HUGE selling point to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author wbrant
      Originally Posted by ham.bone View Post

      Kudos on the transparency of the sales letter. Very refreshing to the latest trend of "this is what it is not" and leading you blindly. Very well done! This is an area that I need to learn more about, so I think you can count me in...

      Great timely answers on here as well, HUGE selling point to me.
      We're glad you like it! Let us know if we can
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
        Cindy,

        ? about the traffic sources.

        Are we guaranteed to get accepted by the traffic sources

        you recommend in this product? Media traffic is one area

        I have avoided like the plague because of advise about

        poor conversions and high cost.

        Thanks,

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  • Profile picture of the author aclacy
    Hey Cindy,

    can media buys be GEO targeted?
    Also, do you show how to direct link (affiliate links) with media buys?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by Robert Oliver View Post

      Cindy,

      ? about the traffic sources.
      Are we guaranteed to get accepted by the traffic sources
      you recommend in this product? Media traffic is one area
      I have avoided like the plague because of advise about
      poor conversions and high cost.

      Thanks,

      Robert Oliver
      Hey Robert,

      Well, guarantee is kinda a tricky one, because it depends a lot on what you are promoting as to whether they will accept it or not. Our training series shows you how to minimise the risk of rejection - by finding hot niches and matching them with offers that work. There are costs involved too, but you can choose how much and if you follow the strategies, it will remove most of the risk.

      Originally Posted by aclacy View Post

      Hey Cindy,

      can media buys be GEO targeted?
      Also, do you show how to direct link (affiliate links) with media buys?
      Yep, some of them can, depending on the networks that you use - and... I like to cloak my links, just so that it looks neater. Am guessing that probably increases conversions too, but - it's not so off-putting when people click on the links, and.. i know the boys will tease me for saying it, but - it makes the links look 'prettier' .. lol

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  • Profile picture of the author jjcali
    Hi Cindy,

    I have held off on media buying in the past due to the cost of media buys and tracking. What do you use to track media buy conversions? Do you provide a conversion tracking software or service?
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      Originally Posted by jjcali View Post

      Hi Cindy,

      I have held off on media buying in the past due to the cost of media buys and tracking. What do you use to track media buy conversions? Do you provide a conversion tracking software or service?
      We don't provide a tracking service... but we have an entire section dedicated to showing you how to track and test inside MTM!

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  • Profile picture of the author dmorales
    What's a media buy? is it like the paid advertising on facebook?
    On the other hand if I work 2 hours a day with your system, and follow all your guidelines... how long will it take to see my first earnings? Do I need a website or direct linking may work? what can of products may I sell (cpa, clickbank, amazon, my own,etc)?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by dmorales View Post

      What's a media buy? is it like the paid advertising on facebook?
      On the other hand if I work 2 hours a day with your system, and follow all your guidelines... how long will it take to see my first earnings? Do I need a website or direct linking may work? what can of products may I sell (cpa, clickbank, amazon, my own,etc)?
      Hi Media buys is pretty much any advertising that you see anywhere.. lol, it used to be mainly billboard advertising/tv commercial slots etc which were wildly expensive - but now, with the internet (woot!!), there is obviously more scope for advertising - for example, banners etc in all sorts of niche specific sites.

      About 'how long will it take to see my earnings' - that depends on how you plan to monetize your traffic. We don't go deeply into CPA, or other methods of making money with the traffic - because we want you to be able to see the potential, it isn't limited to one single method of making money. You can use this traffic for any website promotion, either CPA, your own websites, affiliate programs etc.

      We show you how to track it, work out the best mathematical equations to prevent you losing out - and save you from having to do all of the thinking too... dunno about you, but... my maths is sometimes a bit rusty!

      Anyway - hope that helps! Let me know if you have any more questions!

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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    OK I couldn't resist the temptation to jump into Media traffic Meltdown... I must recon that I was a bit skeptical about media buying due the cost of advertising (I'm not new on this kind of advertising), but going through the videos of MTM pointed me all the mistakes I made on my previous experience in this field and this first myth colapsed like a castle of cards.

    The way each video is presented make things really easy to understand, and after each module all myths about media buying were disapearing. The step by step process guide you by the hand trhough the ads land in a way that there is no chance you can lose the track.

    I'm just finished through all 10 videos and I'm eager to start applying, I must say that this has to be the most valuable product that I've purchased in a long long time.

    PS: Perhaps a little turn off for me was the insane amount affiliate banners disguised as "bonuses" (I counted 40!)
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

      OK I couldn't resist the temptation to jump into Media traffic Meltdown... I must recon that I was a bit skeptical about media buying due the cost of advertising (I'm not new on this kind of advertising), but going through the videos of MTM pointed me all the mistakes I made on my previous experience in this field and this first myth colapsed like a castle of cards.

      The way each video is presented make things really easy to understand, and after each module all myths about media buying were disapearing. The step by step process guide you by the hand trhough the ads land in a way that there is no chance you can lose the track.

      I'm just finished through all 10 videos and I'm eager to start applying, I must say that this has to be the most valuable product that I've purchased in a long long time.

      PS: Perhaps a little turn off for me was the insane amount affiliate banners disguised as "bonuses" (I counted 40!)
      Thank you for your kind words!! I am glad that you were able to learn a lot from this program - and yes, the ability for it to make media buys available for virtually anyone to get started is a great big part of the excitement that we have had in sharing this

      Sorry about the bonuses... lol - a lot of those are our own products, and some are free stuff offered by our partners - all of them are great free products though, there will more than likely be some kind of upgrade offer on the backend, but.. by all means... help yourself to the bonuses - and just say no to the upsells if it's not something that you could find useful.

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    Thanks for the honest comments on this forum. (my browser doesn't show the "Thank" button below any post so I can't use that method.)
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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      I bought this product 2 days ago and I went through all of the videos yesterday. In my opinion, the information is top notch and I am really looking forward to implementing these techniques.

      I still have a couple of projects that I need to finish up before I can start testing my first few media buying campaigns but I am really excited about giving the information found in the media traffic meltdown course a try.
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      • Profile picture of the author wbrant
        Originally Posted by adamv View Post

        I bought this product 2 days ago and I went through all of the videos yesterday. In my opinion, the information is top notch and I am really looking forward to implementing these techniques.

        I still have a couple of projects that I need to finish up before I can start testing my first few media buying campaigns but I am really excited about giving the information found in the media traffic meltdown course a try.
        Glad that you like what you see so far.

        Feel free to let us know if you need help with anything.

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    • Profile picture of the author edaesq
      I bought the course. $37.00 is a very reasonable price. The upsells (I think they hit us with 3 or 4 of them) seemed rather expensive. If you want to blow past them just scroll to the bottom of the page. I did not assess their value as I always intended only to buy the primary product.

      The presentation style of the content seems somewhat...how should I put this...unprofessional. But maybe that's a good thing. Nothing slick that's for sure.

      More important, what you quickly realize is that the presenter in the videos knows what he's talking about. And the explanations are pretty clear.

      Substantively, the course is quite good. It moves from point A to B to C in a logical manner. There is little hype or fluff.

      What I particularly liked about the course is that they don't just teach you how to throw money at banner advertising. They spend considerable time detailing two critical factors to success: Click Through Rates and Conversions.

      And the entire course has a sort of bult in "caution mechanism". There's modules on tweaking and using super low cost testing to see if you've got something that looks like a winner before you ramp up any particular campaign with serious ad spends. They review options, including using the merchant's creatives or making your own.

      The creators of the course obviously know the subject matter and the whole thing is pretty comprehensive without being too long or inflicting information overload. There's a mind map which is okay, and a blueprint at the end which is a basic summary of the entire course.

      Implementing the materials requires that you follow a basic 10 step process. So, there's some work involved, but it's nothing really hairy. In the course they don't suggest it's a get rich quick scheme and they certainly don't want you to follow any such reckless approach implementing the information.

      Well, hope this is helpful. I don't want to diss the upsells because I didn't even look at them. For 37 bucks the primary course is good. Unless you know media buying really well, I don't imagine you will go through the course without learning something.

      Oh, one last comment: At the end of the course there is a little Bonus Module where they discuss some creative ideas for expanding Media Buying into areas we may not have thought of. I do wish this module was a bit longer and more detailed, but it's not a big deal, and doesn't detract from the substance of the main course.
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      • Profile picture of the author wbrant
        Originally Posted by edaesq View Post

        I bought the course. $37.00 is a very reasonable price. The upsells (I think they hit us with 3 or 4 of them) seemed rather expensive. If you want to blow past them just scroll to the bottom of the page. I did not assess their value as I always intended only to buy the primary product.

        The presentation style of the content seems somewhat...how should I put this...unprofessional. But maybe that's a good thing. Nothing slick that's for sure.

        More important, what you quickly realize is that the presenter in the videos knows what he's talking about. And the explanations are pretty clear.

        Substantively, the course is quite good. It moves from point A to B to C in a logical manner. There is little hype or fluff.

        What I particularly liked about the course is that they don't just teach you how to throw money at banner advertising. They spend considerable time detailing two critical factors to success: Click Through Rates and Conversions.

        And the entire course has a sort of bult in "caution mechanism". There's modules on tweaking and using super low cost testing to see if you've got something that looks like a winner before you ramp up any particular campaign with serious ad spends. They review options, including using the merchant's creatives or making your own.

        The creators of the course obviously know the subject matter and the whole thing is pretty comprehensive without being too long or inflicting information overload. There's a mind map which is okay, and a blueprint at the end which is a basic summary of the entire course.

        Implementing the materials requires that you follow a basic 10 step process. So, there's some work involved, but it's nothing really hairy. In the course they don't suggest it's a get rich quick scheme and they certainly don't want you to follow any such reckless approach implementing the information.

        Well, hope this is helpful. I don't want to diss the upsells because I didn't even look at them. For 37 bucks the primary course is good. Unless you know media buying really well, I don't imagine you will go through the course without learning something.

        Oh, one last comment: At the end of the course there is a little Bonus Module where they discuss some creative ideas for expanding Media Buying into areas we may not have thought of. I do wish this module was a bit longer and more detailed, but it's not a big deal, and doesn't detract from the substance of the main course.
        Appreciate the kind words! Would it be okay if we include your sentiments as part of our testimonials? Please let us know!

        Thanks again!

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        • Profile picture of the author barryc
          How good to see a product with positive commentary & only minor queries. Yes I have it & hope to make it work for me. Pity more vendors can`t do it this way.
          Maybe the creators could give an opinion on which of the extras would be the best to choose
          as I didn`t take any of them as yet?

          Well done
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            Originally Posted by barryc View Post

            How good to see a product with positive commentary & only minor queries. Yes I have it & hope to make it work for me. Pity more vendors can`t do it this way.
            Maybe the creators could give an opinion on which of the extras would be the best to choose
            as I didn`t take any of them as yet?

            Well done
            Thanks for the kind words Barry. I'll let Cindy B. know. I'm sure she'll be happy to share her thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebiz4u
    Cindy, what in your opinion is the best way to market today? CPV, Media Buying or PPC?
    I've done them all except for Media but have bought previous programs on the subject but haven't implemented it.

    In my opinion they all have their pluses and minuses but PPC is very expensive and hard to find winners without breaking the bank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by barryc View Post

      How good to see a product with positive commentary & only minor queries. Yes I have it & hope to make it work for me. Pity more vendors can`t do it this way.
      Maybe the creators could give an opinion on which of the extras would be the best to choose
      as I didn`t take any of them as yet?

      Well done
      I am so so glad that everyone is enjoying the product, it's really refreshing to get so much great positive feedback! And... I would say buy all of the extras... hahahaha.. well, of course I would!! It really depends on what you want to do with media buys, and what you already have in your artillery.

      You are well equipped if you just grab the course and follow it - the other things on offer are some super sweet blogging software with an inbuilt traffic syndication kind of thing - and, we also have some readymade media traffic campaigns - like mini businesses in a box things that you can buy too. The course is standalone, so you don't have to buy these extra things - but all of the upsells are of super high quality - and, as I mentioned before, could quite justifiably be sold as products in their own right.

      Just a side note - we are pretty firm on our offers being one time offers. The products aren't available once you get into the members area.

      Originally Posted by ebiz4u View Post

      Cindy, what in your opinion is the best way to market today? CPV, Media Buying or PPC?
      I've done them all except for Media but have bought previous programs on the subject but haven't implemented it.

      In my opinion they all have their pluses and minuses but PPC is very expensive and hard to find winners without breaking the bank.
      Well.. I personally haven't really done much PPC, I always found it too intimidating and just.... overwhelming. I think that media buys, and doing media buys in this way, are just heaps hot - 'cause not many people are doing it right, so it's a perfect time to jump in and benefit, like... right now.


      By the way - thanks for the interest with all of those PM's in my inbox re: the membership script. We probably wont get anything online and available 'til next month - but will let you know as soon as we have it ready.

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    Hey guys! We are looking for some testimonials (honest, actual truth testimonials - not just buddy stuff), for our sales page. If you have an honest review, and don't mind it shared, can you please PM me?

    Am NOT asking for people to make stuff up, so please don't tell me what you think I want to hear - but what you actually thought.

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author treasures226
    Warriors and/or Cindy,
    Would this product be good for a complete newbie? I don't have a lot to spend, but it sounds like that's not necessary. I just need to learn - and find a program and marketer that I trust. I am also new to this forum but I trust the feedback here and I like the level of help that Cindy seems to provide...so if folks think that someone with very little internet marketing skill, but a huge desire to learn, can earn some money with this program, then I would purchase it without a second thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author momsbiz05
      Hi Cindy,
      I just went on to your site today to purchase it and the price is $67. All the warriors are talking about a $37 price, did the price go up and I missed it for $37.
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  • Profile picture of the author zkhan144
    Hi Desmond, bought Media Traffic MeltDown yesterday n devoured it in a few hours! Videos r great quality, great training for those new to media buy networks. If u r an experienced IM'er, u should know this stuff, if u r new to traffic, I would recommend getting this product.

    Hey, u can't lose, there's always something u can learn, I learned of 2 media buy networks that I have not explored - so, the course was valuable 4 me - my take, if there is ONE thing I can learn, tis worth it!!!

    My $0.02 cents on the subject n hope my review was helpful ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author brunski57
      I too would buy it for $37... but now it is priced at $67?

      Is there a special link?


      Let me know.
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
        I went to buy it and got a price of $67

        also. I would also buy at $37.

        Anybody seen a different buy link?

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      • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
        Originally Posted by momsbiz05 View Post

        Hi Cindy,
        I just went on to your site today to purchase it and the price is $67. All the warriors are talking about a $37 price, did the price go up and I missed it for $37.
        Originally Posted by brunski57 View Post

        I too would buy it for $37... but now it is priced at $67?

        Is there a special link?


        Let me know.
        Hey guys, sorry to disappoint... but we can't make exceptions. We advertised that the price was going up - and, we are amongst the rare IM'ers who actually do what they say and stick to it... (lol)

        But, if it's any consolation... the content that you will be getting here, has - until now... only been released in high ticket ($500+) products, so even at $67, this product and the information that you will learn is still crazy awesome value
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Hart
    Hi.

    I hope someone will give an answer to the question above. I also want to know.

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    Would like to buy this at a cheaper price as well!
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    ***MY REVIEW***

    I was able to go though all of the videos and honestly I ran into a product kind of like this before but when I started putting that product into action I failed. I took Cindy's product here seriously because I love her others Clickbank pirate, Affiliate silver bullet still to this day continue to make me sales on clickbank.

    It was their videos and explanation that made it easy for me to grasp this new wave of media marketing. After watching the videos in less then 24 hours I put it into action and the next morning check my testing campaign. I had spend $3.29 on advertising and ended up making $18.75! Talk about some crazy ROI! While its not a huge amount of money I know I am on the right track thanks to this product.

    Each of these 10 videos go though every detail of finding and targeting your audience. This missing part from that other product I bought. These 2-3 videos on this area of the marketing is what really sets it apart from those other products. Its that piece of info you need to be successful that all those other products always seem to leave out and have you fend for yourself.

    If your new to media marketing or even if your not this product does help you out and re enforce what you might know already. The information in your members area is well worth the price.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
      Cindy,

      I see nowhere in this thread about a price increase
      coming up. This is the only place I have followed your
      product. I think many of us here are in the same boat.

      After seeing some of the last reviews and your
      response I had decided to purchase your product only
      to got to the link in your sig and see a higher price.

      I am sure the value is there, but I did not get any
      warning of a price increase here in this thread .

      Thanks,

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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
        Originally Posted by Robert Oliver View Post

        Cindy,

        I see nowhere in this thread about a price increase
        coming up. This is the only place I have followed your
        product. I think many of us here are in the same boat.

        After seeing some of the last reviews and your
        response I had decided to purchase your product only
        to got to the link in your sig and see a higher price.

        I am sure the value is there, but I did not get any
        warning of a price increase here in this thread .

        Thanks,

        Robert Oliver
        Robert,

        The purpose of this thread, and this entire section of the forum, is for buyers to post reviews of the products they've purchased -- I'm not sure why you think the product owners are obligated to announce their price increases here.
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    Who is the guy talking in the videos? That is surely not Cindy!
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      Originally Posted by badcow View Post

      Who is the guy talking in the videos? That is surely not Cindy!
      hahaha, had a cold that week... We created the content and didn't want our accents to get in the way of delivering the content (having a French guy, Danish fella and Aussie gal)... so we outsourced the reading out of it. Hope that is ok!! haha.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
        Originally Posted by Robert Oliver View Post

        Cindy,

        I see nowhere in this thread about a price increase
        coming up. This is the only place I have followed your
        product. I think many of us here are in the same boat.

        After seeing some of the last reviews and your
        response I had decided to purchase your product only
        to got to the link in your sig and see a higher price.

        I am sure the value is there, but I did not get any
        warning of a price increase here in this thread .

        Thanks,

        Robert Oliver
        Originally Posted by KenStrong View Post

        Robert,

        The purpose of this thread, and this entire section of the forum, is for buyers to post reviews of the products they've purchased -- I'm not sure why you think the product owners are obligated to announce their price increases here.
        Hey Ken - thanks for having our back And yep, sorry Robert - I didn't update it here, but there was a countdown timer on the site, and our affiliates mailed about the price rise. I apologise again - and hope that everything works out for you!

        All the best,
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        • Profile picture of the author Robert Oliver
          Cindy,

          I guess my fault for not being on any affiliate list

          of yours. Good luck with your product.

          Ken, not sure why you chimed in here. My

          post was directed at Cindy. I was only responding

          to her post about having well advertised the price

          increase for this product and that it was not posted

          here where I was getting all my information and that is

          all.

          Everyone have a good day.

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          • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
            Originally Posted by Robert Oliver View Post

            Cindy,

            I guess my fault for not being on any affiliate list
            of yours. Good luck with your product.
            Ken, not sure why you chimed in here. My
            post was directed at Cindy. I was only responding
            to her post about having well advertised the price
            increase for this product and that it was not posted
            here where I was getting all my information and that is
            all.

            Everyone have a good day.

            Robert Oliver
            Hey Robert

            Ken is a good friend of mine - think he just wanted to
            give you some information, since it was still about 3am
            my time when you posted that. Always nice to get a
            prompt reaction.

            Also, Robert - not sure if you are interested, but if you
            want to keep up to date with what we are up to, you can
            join my list here: Internet Marketing Blog - there will be
            a popover thing giving you a free copy of the Niche Ideas
            report.

            Have a fun day!
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              Cindy,

              Thanks for your prompt response to all my
              questions above and for the link to keep up
              with what is going on.

              Off to get things done now.

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  • Profile picture of the author badcow
    Just finished viewing all the videos and taking notes. Here is my first reaction/response and review of Media Traffic Meltdown...

    [NOTE: I'm a total newbie to "paid" traffic - I've been doing SEO + Affiliate Marketing for the past 1.5 years now (started with Mark Ling's AffiloBlueprint). So, the information in Media Traffic Meltdown is totally new to me, but something I knew I wanted to learn about back when I was just beginning to start into IM. Now, I wish I'd started with paid traffic instead of SEO. Ling's AB does cover PPC, but that is the only paid traffic he discusses - and I didn't want to learn that stuff at the time. /end Note]

    MTM appears to address the main issues with paid traffic which originally pushed me down the path of SEO. MTM has helped me to understand some of the basic concepts of media buying. My eyes have been opened. I feel like Neo being unplugged from the Matrix. But I still have more questions... and a few 'issues' with the product - perhaps these can be improvements for version 2.0?!

    Issue #1: The Blueprint.
    MTM is NOT a 'blueprint' product for paid traffic for a newbie; but you WILL learn the big ideas. I'm sure those who have some experience in other forms of paid traffic will find the info in MTM sufficient to take action. But I am left hungry to take action, yet not quite sure what the next step is.

    IMHO The 'blueprint' is not a blueprint. It is not actionable for a newbie. Too many unknown variables are left out (for newbies). It is more like a guide - which is fine for those with some experience in paid traffic, but not for a newbie to paid traffic. Remember that I am 'spoiled' because of Ling's AffiloBlueprint - which really is an actionable blueprint (in which I learned how to do SEO Affiliate marketing + article marketing).

    Issue #2: The Videos.
    Cindy is NOT the teacher in the videos (bummer). And from the way the guy talks, he is not a paid voice actor - he is someone who obviously knows his stuff about media buying... but he isn't necessarily the best teacher. He rambles about all over the place. (yes he has an agenda, but it is not well presented)

    There's almost no purpose for this to be a video because the actual 'live' screen shots are few and far between. The rest of the time you are left to endure viewing a mind map chart while the guy talks. Not my best type of learning style.

    I would have preferred to have more 'over the shoulder' video footage where we watch an actual media buy campaign from beginning to testing to profitable upscaling. There's no need to watch these videos at all (for the most part) - because there's little that you actually need to watch in these videos - you mostly just listen.

    Issue #3: eBook.
    I would have preferred to read much of what I had to endure on the videos. I can read much faster than I can 'listen' to the videos. And I think an ebook would help with the organization of the learning modules. Teach concepts in the ebook - then show examples in a video - that's how I would do it.

    Issue #4: use of Web 2.0 ads
    I'd like to see an example of testing on Facebook, MySpace, and StumbleUpon ads, instead of theorizing or telling me... show me!

    Issue #5: discussion forum or thread?
    I'd like to see a discussion forum built so those of us doing media buying via MTM can share our successes, failures and frustrations to encourage each other on to bigger and better things.

    My Impression?
    I learned stuff I didn't know before = good. I have a general idea of which way I want to go now = good. I don't have a step-by-step actionable blueprint so I know exactly what decisions I need to make and actions I need to take next = bad. Since I'm new to paid traffic, I'd like to watch some video examples of each of the stages instead of listening to a guy talk while I look at his mind map.

    Overall Impression?
    For $37 - you will learn from this product and it's probably worth $37. For $67, I'd expect more - a better, realistic blueprint at the very least - and Cindy's voice / face in the videos! ;-). That's my opinion, for what it's worth. Now I'm off to attempt my first media buying campaign.

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      Originally Posted by badcow View Post

      Issue #1: The Blueprint.
      MTM is NOT a 'blueprint' product for paid traffic for a newbie; but you WILL learn the big ideas. I'm sure those who have some experience in other forms of paid traffic will find the info in MTM sufficient to take action. But I am left hungry to take action, yet not quite sure what the next step is.

      IMHO The 'blueprint' is not a blueprint. It is not actionable for a newbie. Too many unknown variables are left out (for newbies). It is more like a guide - which is fine for those with some experience in paid traffic, but not for a newbie to paid traffic.
      I agree entirely!

      Originally Posted by badcow View Post

      I would have preferred to have more 'over the shoulder' video footage where we watch an actual media buy campaign from beginning to testing to profitable upscaling.
      Exactly! This is what I wanted to see.

      Originally Posted by badcow View Post

      Issue #4: use of Web 2.0 ads
      I'd like to see an example of testing on Facebook, MySpace, and StumbleUpon ads, instead of theorizing or telling me... show me!
      Agreed. I'm still unsure how you test different ads. Do they rotate them? Or do you use one ad for 1000 impressions and then use another? I was left confused because it wasn't explained.

      Originally Posted by badcow View Post

      Since I'm new to paid traffic, I'd like to watch some video examples of each of the stages instead of listening to a guy talk while I look at his mind map.
      Yes. Good 'overview' course - but the lack of specifics, step by step guide and NO actual video showing how to set up and get a campaign profitable left me very disappointed with this course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
    Hi guys,

    It is a blueprint, it's just that it is not step by
    step, but all of the information that you need,
    to get started, is right there.

    We have avoided the copy this/paste it there
    approach, mainly because most training courses
    that do this, can destroy entire niches….lol, 'cause
    they use xx as an example - which everyone else
    follows - an then people who get started on the
    course are left wondering why it isn't working like
    it used to.

    The aim of the course is to teach you everything
    you need to know to set up, run, test, tweak and
    profit from your own campaigns. We want to give
    you the knowledge, tools etc, for you to take it and
    apply it in the way that you need to.

    If you are still lost and it looks too much, or not
    straightforward enough, I would encourage you to
    go through the videos again (would probably
    encourage you to do that anyway), take notes,
    and keep in mind the budget that you have to
    work with - and then get to implementing it.

    Fail is a good thing (as long as controlled),
    without fail you can't improve your campaigns

    Media Traffic Meltdown is aimed at the person
    new to media buys, and then progressively guides
    through more advanced stuff (there are deffo parts
    of the course even advanced media buy people can
    learn from).

    With the testing thing, you can run a split test,
    simultaneously running two banners which will
    be allowed on some sites, find the one with the
    best CTR and work forward to fine-tune that
    campaign.

    In regards to:
    "Yes. Good 'overview' course - but the lack of
    specifics, step by step guide and NO actual video
    showing how to set up and get a campaign profitable
    left me very disappointed with this course."

    eerm… sorry to disappoint, but, you are the first to
    find an issue with that. We are happy to take your
    feedback, but - we have given you everything that
    you need in the course to get started - hopefully, you
    are able to step outside of your comfort zone and
    push yourself to learn in a different style.

    I think we did a pretty decent job of explaining the
    specifics, maybe you need to go over the videos again,
    this time, with pen and paper and make notes on how
    you will be able to/plan to specifically apply what you
    have learned to your online traffic generation.

    Sucks to end this 'essay' on a sad note!!! But, I figured
    you had enough of reading my epic war and peace-like
    novel… lol

    - Cindy
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    • Profile picture of the author onlinevideoguy
      If You did the 7 day trial for $1.00 when the price was $37 we're only going to get charged 36 more like you said right?


      Thanx!
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        Originally Posted by onlinevideoguy View Post

        If You did the 7 day trial for $1.00 when the price was $37 we're only going to get charged 36 more like you said right?


        Thanx!
        Yep, correct

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        • Profile picture of the author brendan301
          i've got the course and am going through the videos. having done ppc before, i'm not new to buying traffic, just new to media buys so to speak.

          if one has a question about the materials, where can we get them answered?
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    wasnt this going to be pricey to implement?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by brendan301 View Post

      i've got the course and am going through the videos. having done ppc before, i'm not new to buying traffic, just new to media buys so to speak.

      if one has a question about the materials, where can we get them answered?
      Hey Brendan,

      If you need help with anything, please contact our support desk: SJCSupport.com - there is also a link in your members area to go straight there (in the header menu inside your members area)

      Originally Posted by tlarsen2080 View Post

      wasnt this going to be pricey to implement?
      Nope - it's not. You can get started with just a few bucks... in fact, we recommend that you get started small - test out your campaign, before investing more. And small, I mean.. you can start for, like... 5 or 10 bucks.

      Cheers!
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      • Profile picture of the author edaesq
        I found that the course provided what I needed to get started.

        It's a numbers game. I spent a few hours with the 5 or 6 formulas and just punched numbers into a calculator over and over using the formulas and now I can do them in my sleep. They are quite simple.

        Once you do this the formulas are like adding one plus one. Then you can know exactly what to do with your first buys, whether to pull the trigger, or whether the numbers are bad and it's a no go. The first buys are tests so no big money at stake.

        I've never done a split test in my life but an A/B run is just one ad for a while and then another one for equivalent time. When done, run your numbers and see which sucks and which doesn't.

        The two things I really wish the course gave me (and these are ridiculous and I wouldn't expect the course producers to do this) is pre-made Excel Spreadhseets with the 5 or 6 formulas typed in so I would not have to learn Excel. But I can learn simple spreadhseet stuff. The other thing is those damn MP4's. I wish I could download them and play them offline because every 20 minutes or so my computer browser eats it and I have to re-start. Free MP4 players suck and don't work from the ones I've tried.

        But I'll deal with my glitchy old laptop. If that stops me I'm in the wrong game.

        I found that, with the formulas, and the websites where they tell you to go to run your first test buys, it is not overly traumatic to implement. In my humble opinion knowing the formulas is a lot more important than watching someone fill out an Insertion Order sheet, which is explained in the lessons anyway.

        I do understand when people say it's a little fuzzy because you don't actually see the process, but with the formulas in your head after you do the demographic research, bang out one 20 buck media buy and the fuzz is gone. Learn the formulas by heart and you can make good decisions on the fly.

        It sems to me Media Buying is a numbers game. Jump in knowing your formulas and the losses will be small and winners will be bigger than the losses.
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    thanks edaesq - that will be my goal for tonight to jump in and get my feet wet. gotta take action to see results, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author edaesq
      Listbuilding? I believe so. Perhaps the creators will have some more enlightening things to add.
      But I think you can listbuild off the Landing Page between the banner ad and the merchant offer.
      Also, investing in some media buying which is solely designed to capture names for a list may be good money spent now for a whole lot later.
      If you pump a few hundred into a media buy solely to get a list going, without expecting any commissions at all immediately....in short, you banner ad them right to your opt-in (which comes with free or low priced gift for opting in) - that list can be worth a lot 3 or 4 months down the road. A list avergages $1 per person per month. I bet you could blow up a nice list with a small investment and the payoff later in the year might be a hundred fold of the original media buys to set up the list. I'm just sort of speculating here, but heck, why not give it a whirl, see what shakes out?
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    WARNING: I just got a phone sales pitch from someone who called me asking about my purchase of Media Traffic Meltdown and offering an "opportunity" to join a coaching program. Amazingly my phone hung up on the call - weird, eh? ;-)

    Update (for anyone who cares): I am going through the videos again (3rd time), taking notes and selecting an offer and demographics tonight so I can place my first media buy. Will update here as to the results. The formulas are helpful, but... I need to figure out to how use them to predict profitability BEFORE I begin my buying...

    However, I guess the lesson here is this: start small (because you are gathering data at this point about what is profitable), then after you find a winning campaign SCALE UP.
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      Of course we care badcow! Please keep us up to date!
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        Originally Posted by badcow View Post

        thanks edaesq - that will be my goal for tonight to jump in and get my feet wet. gotta take action to see results, right?
        Yep! It's all about applying what you learn! Would love to hear how it goes for you

        Originally Posted by dzoaffiliate View Post

        i've been through all the videos of MTM -
        the short answer is this is VALUE FOR MONEY. Even at $67 it is well worth buying.

        I do not recommend IMproducts 99% of the time.
        But I have recommended this to my list of 1500 (customers) who have bought my PPC Keyword Toolz and other IM software tools I created.

        long review:
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        There are 10 videos packed with a lot of information.
        The presenter knows his stuffs. He's been in the trenches.
        This is no rehashed cr** you usually get from a guy that's flipped a whole load of IM stuff.
        These 2 videos
        Video 4 - Media Buying Tactics
        Video 7 - Explosive Conversions

        are pretty important and well worth watching. I learned a lot.

        Hope this helps...

        Nitin
        Thank you for taking the time to let people know! Much appreciated!

        Originally Posted by MaddenGeneration View Post

        Can this be used for list building?
        Yep, as edaesq said, it can - and, that is probably a super effective way to monetize your traffic with a longterm benefit in mind. You will also get higher conversion rate because it is much easier the get someone to commit to receive email information and follow up with them, than it is to get a sale from them straight-up.

        Originally Posted by badcow View Post

        WARNING: I just got a phone sales pitch from someone who called me asking about my purchase of Media Traffic Meltdown and offering an "opportunity" to join a coaching program. Amazingly my phone hung up on the call - weird, eh? ;-)
        lol, nothing weird there - we offer an extended coaching service, which, of course... one-on-one intensive biz planning and development can't be offered for a once-off $67 payment If you aren't interested, please don't be rude - just tell them a 'no thank you' - they are still people there.

        Originally Posted by badcow View Post

        Update (for anyone who cares): I am going through the videos again (3rd time), taking notes and selecting an offer and demographics tonight so I can place my first media buy. Will update here as to the results. The formulas are helpful, but... I need to figure out to how use them to predict profitability BEFORE I begin my buying...

        However, I guess the lesson here is this: start small (because you are gathering data at this point about what is profitable), then after you find a winning campaign SCALE UP.
        (thumbs up), yep - think you have got the idea. Let me know how your first experiment goes!

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          Originally Posted by Cindy Battye View Post

          lol, nothing weird there - we offer an extended coaching service, which, of course... one-on-one intensive biz planning and development can't be offered for a once-off $67 payment If you aren't interested, please don't be rude - just tell them a 'no thank you' - they are still people there.
          - Cindy
          I really wasn't being rude. My phone literally had a glitch (or his did)... I was in the middle of a sentence when the call was dropped. He didn't call back. I thought it fortuitous. I don't know how much the coaching upsell would have been, but the last time someone pitched something like that to me over the phone it was around $3000.

          Now for my update: bought CPM ad on Facebook. Modified a creative from Commission Junction offer. Targeted the demographic on Facebook and let the ad run for 24 hours. After 20,000 impressions... 3 clicks. Zero purchases.

          Lessons learned: Need to improve CTR by improving the banner and/or writing better copy. Next, do not direct link to a page w/out an offer. I wasn't targeting a specific product, but a very broad niche so instead of linking to an offer page, I went to the front page which is really a shopping site for the niche = too broad. Unless the people clicking already know what they want, when they land on a shopping front page they don't buy anything.

          My next FB ad will target a specific product in this niche vertical, and will link to my own landing page. Let's see how that goes...
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            Originally Posted by badcow View Post

            I really wasn't being rude. My phone literally had a glitch (or his did)... I was in the middle of a sentence when the call was dropped. He didn't call back. I thought it fortuitous. I don't know how much the coaching upsell would have been, but the last time someone pitched something like that to me over the phone it was around $3000.
            lol, no hard feelings at all but i guess, if you weren't after coaching, that would have been a funny situation - reminds me of the way that Jerry Seinfeld handled a telemarketer in one of his Seinfeld eps..

            Originally Posted by badcow View Post

            Now for my update: bought CPM ad on Facebook. Modified a creative from Commission Junction offer. Targeted the demographic on Facebook and let the ad run for 24 hours. After 20,000 impressions... 3 clicks. Zero purchases.

            Lessons learned: Need to improve CTR by improving the banner and/or writing better copy. Next, do not direct link to a page w/out an offer. I wasn't targeting a specific product, but a very broad niche so instead of linking to an offer page, I went to the front page which is really a shopping site for the niche = too broad. Unless the people clicking already know what they want, when they land on a shopping front page they don't buy anything.

            My next FB ad will target a specific product in this niche vertical, and will link to my own landing page. Let's see how that goes...
            Good to see you are learning! Yes - I would highly recommend going to an offer - either a strong, high converting sales letter/CPA offer, or an optin page etc - with a strong call to action will work You will get there soon!

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          • Profile picture of the author michaelr7
            You are on the wrong track using Facebook.

            While 'technically', FB ads could be considered Media Buys, you'd have 10x better chance of success
            sticking with the standard, run-of-the-mill Media Buys, as mentioned in the Media Meltdown course.

            Originally Posted by badcow View Post

            I really wasn't being rude. My phone literally had a glitch (or his did)... I was in the middle of a sentence when the call was dropped. He didn't call back. I thought it fortuitous. I don't know how much the coaching upsell would have been, but the last time someone pitched something like that to me over the phone it was around $3000.

            Now for my update: bought CPM ad on Facebook. Modified a creative from Commission Junction offer. Targeted the demographic on Facebook and let the ad run for 24 hours. After 20,000 impressions... 3 clicks. Zero purchases.

            Lessons learned: Need to improve CTR by improving the banner and/or writing better copy. Next, do not direct link to a page w/out an offer. I wasn't targeting a specific product, but a very broad niche so instead of linking to an offer page, I went to the front page which is really a shopping site for the niche = too broad. Unless the people clicking already know what they want, when they land on a shopping front page they don't buy anything.

            My next FB ad will target a specific product in this niche vertical, and will link to my own landing page. Let's see how that goes...
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          • Profile picture of the author hitesh93
            Originally Posted by badcow View Post


            Now for my update: bought CPM ad on Facebook. Modified a creative from Commission Junction offer. Targeted the demographic on Facebook and let the ad run for 24 hours. After 20,000 impressions... 3 clicks. Zero purchases.

            Lessons learned: Need to improve CTR by improving the banner and/or writing better copy. Next, do not direct link to a page w/out an offer. I wasn't targeting a specific product, but a very broad niche so instead of linking to an offer page, I went to the front page which is really a shopping site for the niche = too broad. Unless the people clicking already know what they want, when they land on a shopping front page they don't buy anything.
            I'm sure Cindy can help a bit more on this, but if you're getting 20k impressions in just 24 hours, your chosen demographics is WAY too wide. Narrow it down as much as you can - especially if you use the 'interests' section to pretty much spell out your ideal visitor. In my experience, if you have more than 200k audience for an ad, it's too wide. Ideal is around 20k-50k audience (max!).
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  • Profile picture of the author badcow
    Michaelr7 - the course mentions Facebook also - which is where I got the idea! I will try another place to buy traffic as you suggest and as mentioned in the course
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      i'm ready to do my first media buy and will be doing it monday. i tried to purchase ads last week on adbrite but after I selected the ad size and site, it would say 0 inventory. VERY weird.

      so far, i like the course. however some things i'd like to see in an updated version would be more discussion on matching niches to websites to offers. for example, i'd like to see/hear " __________ niches work well on _________ sites" for example, i want to use buysellads. I'm not quite clear on what types of offers would convert on their sites.

      that's a small thing and something i can figure out on my own and by testing with small media buys. i'd also like to see a forum where we can interact with each other and get questions answered publicly. other than that, i'm pleased with my $37 investment. My goal is to be at $100/day by March 2011.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    Bought this course last month, only had time to try it out now.

    Set up some banner ads campaign but the biggest problem is getting the clicks! CTR and therefore traffic is dismal at the moment but will try to improve it. Nothing like what the sales letter say.

    Lots of testing to do and I guess expect to spend some more money, at least for the first few weeks !

    The guide was useful but not detailed enough but I am sure I will get there...cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      Bought this course last month, only had time to try it out now.

      Set up some banner ads campaign but the biggest problem is getting the clicks! CTR and therefore traffic is dismal at the moment but will try to improve it. Nothing like what the sales letter say.

      Lots of testing to do and I guess expect to spend some more money, at least for the first few weeks !

      The guide was useful but not detailed enough but I am sure I will get there...cheers!
      Hey Gary,

      If you aren't finding results with a banner, you can either try and switch it to a different banner (split testing against a couple would be even better), or you might need to find a new website to advertise on.

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      • Profile picture of the author garyt
        Originally Posted by Cindy Battye View Post

        Hey Gary,

        If you aren't finding results with a banner, you can either try and switch it to a different banner (split testing against a couple would be even better), or you might need to find a new website to advertise on.

        - Cindy
        Cindy, what's a good ctr to shoot for? I am getting 0.07% now, down from 0.1% a few days back. This is from the 2nd media network mentioned in the course. Also tried the 3rd one but the CPM there tends to be a bit steep because of the bidding structure.

        As for 1st network, can't even advertise as they can't verify my credit card online (they don't accept Paypal). Need to fax details over ... urgh

        I think these are the things I need to do:

        1. try out different banners, including animated ones, where allowed
        2. set up a squeeze page and a mailing list
        3. try out different sites and different offers

        All these will take time. Will report back in a month's time... if I remember
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  • Profile picture of the author neodarth
    OK, 20 days after applying MTM here's the scoop so far...

    - I created an ad on a health market offer.
    - I put my ad on one of the media networks mentioned in the training, and following the guides trying to not be too much creative, just simply using the same tactic mentioned in the MTM.
    Redirecting to my website (and then to a squeeze page) and then to the offer.
    - I add a $100 fund on the network

    Two weeks and $100 bucks later I ended with 15 subscribers and 6 sales with a total of $227 I think is a pretty decent ROI.

    So this works, period.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaunAllen
      Great work.

      Now that you've found something that works scale that up and you'll be making $100 profit per day.




      Originally Posted by neodarth View Post

      OK, 20 days after applying MTM here's the scoop so far...

      - I created an ad on a health market offer.
      - I put my ad on one of the media networks mentioned in the training, and following the guides trying to not be too much creative, just simply using the same tactic mentioned in the MTM.
      Redirecting to my website (and then to a squeeze page) and then to the offer.
      - I add a $100 fund on the network

      Two weeks and $100 bucks later I ended with 15 subscribers and 6 sales with a total of $227 I think is a pretty decent ROI.

      So this works, period.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    What kind of budget should you have to do this effectively?
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    Looks like no support here at all ??
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  • Profile picture of the author lorenzmac
    i'm interested in media buying. Will i need to know how to make landing pages ?
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
      Originally Posted by lorenzmac View Post

      i'm interested in media buying. Will i need to know how to make landing pages ?
      Nope, you can direct-link if you want. What you will need to learn how to do is make "killer" banners though, or outsource them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Eliott
        Jeffrey ,

        Good intel there . I see the split testing alone [ if one were to use it ] as more than 10 - 20 bucks . The need for a money buffer would be something needed as a fella learns how to work the media buy system . With say just 50 bucks and the first campaign or two falter and fail , money could be lost if the numbers aren't watched carefully . The failure factor can drain the finance needed to continue on to successes . 500 bucks would be nice . One network needs 300 spawns to even start ,=.
        The course Videos are helpful , chock full of great tips and the guide, both oral and written does a good job for the uninitiated .

        I see Click Bank telling me this is a recurring monthly charge [?] anybody else see that ?
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        • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
          Originally Posted by Bill e View Post

          I see Click Bank telling me this is a recurring monthly charge [?] anybody else see that ?
          ??? Never saw or heard anything like that. Thanks for the tip! I'm checking back with ClickBank right now..
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          • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
            Hey Bill,

            I think the re-bill just happens when you sign up for some of the other upsells. As far as I can see, the product itself is a one-time fee.
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            • Profile picture of the author Bill Eliott
              Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

              Hey Bill,

              I think the re-bill just happens when you sign up for some of the other upsells. As far as I can see, the product itself is a one-time fee.
              Good man Jeff. Haven't been back to Click b for a bit, will have to check it out.
              Originally I was at the 1 buck trial offer, could not upload the vids so went back in and did the bite at 70 bucks, had my Vids.

              Checked out the Click Bank receipt and spotted the fee as recurring.

              Let you know how I look when I get over there, the last time, Click Bank wouldn't accept the receipt number.

              Good Luck
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              • Profile picture of the author Bill Eliott
                Cindy,

                Much appreciate you dropping in to lend a hand.
                My initial questions to support were addressed purdy darn good.

                The guy doing the demos knows what he is talking about. Sounds like he has prospered well [he does mention us] in the Media Buy field. My detective ears has him in Pittsburgh.

                I await funds to run a few. My progress will be added here now and then.

                I've visited your Traffic site, good stuff Cindy.

                B.E.
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          • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
            Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

            For $37 it's EXCELLENT! And it is definitely the best ClickBank product ever made. I was very impressed with it, and even somewhat SHOCKED it was priced so low and such high quality.

            However, I still do not agree you can start with under $100, or $5 or $10 like the lady said. They even mention Facebook as one of the "starting grounds", and I know from experience you can't expect to start banking with just $100 or less.
            Thanks for the kind words! I am glad you are liking the content! About the beginning price, you can start out doing a campaign for a few bucks - when I start out testing something, I will start out with something around $10-$20. If you want to try a few at the same time to make the process a bit faster (different sites/ads etc) then you can increase the outlay - but I really would recommend against placing down $100-$200 etc on a site without doing a smaller test first.

            Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

            Nope, you can direct-link if you want. What you will need to learn how to do is make "killer" banners though, or outsource them.
            Yep, true - it is all depending on the offer too - sometimes it is better to send them straight to the product page - other times, to get them on your list and then start to sell to them. Really depends on the product/niche.

            Originally Posted by Bill e View Post

            Jeffrey ,
            I see Click Bank telling me this is a recurring monthly charge [?] anybody else see that ?
            Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

            ??? Never saw or heard anything like that. Thanks for the tip! I'm checking back with ClickBank right now..
            We have several products available for sale - there was a trial which will rebill, or there is also an upsell of a super slick blogging/traffic system that is a recurring billing. At all times though, you will be told what you are buying before you buy it - but if you have forgotten and need help bumping the memory a little send an email to our support team - (they rule!!) and would love to help you work it out: SJCSupport.com <-here!

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            • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
              Thanks Cindy,

              Sure, I agree you can test a campaign with $10-$20, but what I'm getting at is you cannot guarantee someone will easily make their money back, or even profit after one campaign. It COULD theoretically happen, but most likely not.

              If you were to say you could test campaigns for $10-$20 (each) until you find a winner, well then that may be more possible. The fact is that some people may find a winner after a few, and for others it will take 50 campaigns, or possibly more. And guaranteed 95% will quit before they find one.

              To think you can go into media buying having $20 ( or even $100 ) to your name and come out a millionaire is a little bit un-realistic, that's all.




              Originally Posted by Cindy Battye View Post

              About the beginning price, you can start out doing a campaign for a few bucks - when I start out testing something, I will start out with something around $10-$20. If you want to try a few at the same time to make the process a bit faster (different sites/ads etc) then you can increase the outlay - but I really would recommend against placing down $100-$200 etc on a site without doing a smaller test first.
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              • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
                Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

                Thanks Cindy,

                Sure, I agree you can test a campaign with $10-$20, but what I'm getting at is you cannot guarantee someone will easily make their money back, or even profit after one campaign. It COULD theoretically happen, but most likely not.

                If you were to say you could test campaigns for $10-$20 (each) until you find a winner, well then that may be more possible. The fact is that some people may find a winner after a few, and for others it will take 50 campaigns, or possibly more. And guaranteed 95% will quit before they find one.

                To think you can go into media buying having $20 ( or even $100 ) to your name and come out a millionaire is a little bit un-realistic, that's all.
                Hey Jeffrey,

                Have you gotten through the course yet? If you are applying the strategies that we set out, the risk is minimal - of course, nothing is guaranteed, but it isn't heaps risky. Of course nobody thinks that you can invest $20 and come out a millionaire - well, I hope nobody does, 'cause that would be stupid! The plan here is to start small, then reinvest what you earn into doing larger media buys, and so on, and so on - until you are getting your target amount from it.

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                • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
                  Hi Cindy,

                  Yes, I've gone through it a couple times, and it is great! However, I would still not bank on the fact of someone taking their last $100, doing media buys, and expecting to come out successful. It's possible, but still highly unlikely. There are too many variables involved.

                  As far as actually doing them when you have graduated from doing Facebook, MTM is a very well laid-out strategy.


                  Originally Posted by Cindy Battye View Post

                  Hey Jeffrey,

                  Have you gotten through the course yet? If you are applying the strategies that we set out, the risk is minimal - of course, nothing is guaranteed, but it isn't heaps risky. Of course nobody thinks that you can invest $20 and come out a millionaire - well, I hope nobody does, 'cause that would be stupid! The plan here is to start small, then reinvest what you earn into doing larger media buys, and so on, and so on - until you are getting your target amount from it.

                  - Cindy
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                  • Profile picture of the author seriousmny
                    Followed the instructions for MTM word for word but have yet to find a successful campaign. Gotten a lot of responsive ads as far as clicks versus impressions but as of yet, none have converted. Let me preface this by saying, thus far I have only spent about 170 bucks and that was just for PPC testing for the niches after doing research with Quantcast etc as stated in the videos. I haven't even done any media buying yet. How long do you test before you move on? There have been a couple of ads that have been really responsive with clicks, but I just feel like if I keep running the ad eventually there will be a conversion. I have my nephew who is my partner in this and he is an accountant. He's not budging with anything until we convert something. I invested $200.00 of my own money and we are almost out just with testing. I was thinking perhaps hitting it now from a different angle with article marketing since the cash is getting low. My nephew does have a credit card, but he's not offering it up until there is a winning campaign so he's not willing to use his cash without some reassurances and that's totally understandable.

                    Any suggestions? How much money is the average person spending for testing and how long is it taking them to find a winning campaign? I'm not giving up, I believe it is possible, I just need to know when we should cut losses. I am willing to work extra to get the cash, I just need to know how much is needed but I want to keep working while I'm building the cash back up with the articles so we can keep moving.

                    We've been at this since the beginning of the last week of October.
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                      Originally Posted by seriousmny View Post

                      Followed the instructions for MTM word for word but have yet to find a successful campaign. Gotten a lot of responsive ads as far as clicks versus impressions but as of yet, none have converted. Let me preface this by saying, thus far I have only spent about 170 bucks and that was just for PPC testing for the niches after doing research with Quantcast etc as stated in the videos.
                      Hi Thanks first of all for checking it out and giving things a go. You mention PPC, we can't really help you with that sorry. If you have some statistics - like, what the campaign was, where the ad was placed, what the impressions and click throughs were etc, then we can look at it and give you some pointers.

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                    • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
                      First of all, understand that this is not going to be cheap to test. From what I've learned, this is really the best strategy.

                      #1 Test your LPs on CPV until you narrow down a definite winner.

                      #2 Test your headlines and copy on PPC ( Adwords or Yahoo/MSN ) until you find the best combination.

                      #3 Test pictures or image ads on Facebook or Google Display Network and find the best photo.

                      #4 Spy on ads on websites like weather.com or cnbc.com, etc.

                      #5 Combine all these and integrate into banner form. Now try to find "high traffic" independent websites that match your best demographics. Offer small trial buy ( $10 or $20 for 7 days ). See how it does.

                      #6 If it makes you money, try to negotiate a longer time period for the best price you can get.



                      Originally Posted by seriousmny View Post


                      Any suggestions? How much money is the average person spending for testing and how long is it taking them to find a winning campaign? I'm not giving up, I believe it is possible, I just need to know when we should cut losses. I am willing to work extra to get the cash, I just need to know how much is needed but I want to keep working while I'm building the cash back up with the articles so we can keep moving.

                      We've been at this since the beginning of the last week of October.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
                        Originally Posted by jeffrey73 View Post

                        First of all, understand that this is not going to be cheap to test. From what I've learned, this is really the best strategy.

                        #1 Test your LPs on CPV until you narrow down a definite winner.

                        #2 Test your headlines and copy on PPC ( Adwords or Yahoo/MSN ) until you find the best combination.

                        #3 Test pictures or image ads on Facebook or Google Display Network and find the best photo.

                        #4 Spy on ads on websites like weather.com or cnbc.com, etc.

                        #5 Combine all these and integrate into banner form. Now try to find "high traffic" independent websites that match your best demographics. Offer small trial buy ( $10 or $20 for 7 days ). See how it does.

                        #6 If it makes you money, try to negotiate a longer time period for the best price you can get.
                        Yup, that is one strategy. That is a little more labour intensive than what a few of the other things we teach in MTM are though - but it should work
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                      Originally Posted by seriousmny View Post


                      he's not willing to use his cash without some reassurances and that's totally understandable.

                      Any suggestions? How much money is the average person spending for testing and how long is it taking them to find a winning campaign? I'm not giving up, I believe it is possible, I just need to know when we should cut losses. I am willing to work extra to get the cash, I just need to know how much is needed but I want to keep working while I'm building the cash back up with the articles so we can keep moving.

                      We've been at this since the beginning of the last week of October.
                      Thank you for that. Good to hear from the media melt down trenches.
                      Those are very reasonable questions posed and I too wait for a response with regards to that.
                      Not knowing how many Melt-Downs were purchased and who actually implemented it and has begun to see some success makes it hard to guess on averages. Only the owners are privy to those stats.

                      But surely there is say a 100 folk trying this out, by now testimonials both good, neutral and bad exist through support feedback.

                      Has anybody going the cheapest route possible had a chance to scale up? Were they successful with just 50 bucks, to use a figure slightly higher than the ten or twenty we have heard,
                      How about those that spent 200, 0r 300 or even 5 ?

                      The partnership, creators of Media Melt Down, how did they achieve positive large returns, do they still play in the media buy realm? I see they have created many other biz models offered for purchase.

                      Perhaps they, or him or her had a 5,000 dollars cushion to allow large losses before cracking the code.
                      Is the gentleman doing the tutorials affiliated with the owners of Media Melt Down, or hired by them because of his and partners success in the field of Media Buys. He was not reading from prepared scripts.

                      Hopefully '' seriousmny'' will tell us more of her journey/stats, those Cindy has asked about to help all of us out who look for realistic approaches without losing the only funds we have.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Bill Eliott
                        Jeff your latest input may prove invaluable for some of us.
                        Agreed testing is the key, and yes it will eat up money.

                        I am a firm believer that good timing and just a helpful touch of luck plays a big part for those that hang in[mentally, financially] to gain a toe-hold climbing up through the vast treacherous mountains of the super competitive world of internet advertising.

                        Thanks again...
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                      • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
                        Originally Posted by Bill Elliot View Post


                        Perhaps they, or him or her had a 5,000 dollars cushion to allow large losses before cracking the code.
                        Thanks Bill. This is precisely what I'm talking about. It may even have been more, who knows?

                        I don't believe there is any "code" to crack. It's more of just weeding out the hundreds of things that DON'T work, and finding those that DO work. Either way it's not going to be simple or cheap work based off a few calculations.

                        Just like anything, when something is working it ends up paying off. This just has the potential to pay off ENORMOUSLY.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    That's $127 Profit in two weeks plus labour. $100 to start with, there's your budget to begin with. So it works?
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  • Profile picture of the author lorenzmac
    I caved in and got media traffic meltdown. Will post my review when i'm done with it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cindy Battye
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      What kind of budget should you have to do this effectively?
      I would suggest you start small, even at $10-$20 - get an idea of how to make it work for you and then, once you can get that converting etc, then expand. If you have $100-$150 then that is good too, but just be careful that you are following the steps, rather than just throwing your money at something and hoping that it works for ya.

      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      Looks like no support here at all ??
      Our desk is here: SJCSupport.com

      I try to get in to WF as often as I can to check on things. Our support team are available there all the time though

      Originally Posted by lorenzmac View Post

      i'm interested in media buying. Will i need to know how to make landing pages ?
      This is just a traffic generation training course, so what you decide to send traffic to is up to you. If you are sending it to CPA offers or affiliate pages, then no, you don't need to worry about it.

      Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

      Support for what? It's not supposed to be a support thread, it's a review thread from people who have purchased the product.
      lol, thanks mate

      Originally Posted by lorenzmac View Post

      I caved in and got media traffic meltdown. Will post my review when i'm done with it!
      great stuff! let us know how it goes!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Eliott
    Agreed Jeff, " cracking code" poor choice of phrase.

    Trying to encapsulate thoughts to describe how to make it to that comfortable place where one has lost and learned and through those losses has established a winning financial ROI with Media Buys, enough to move forward with confidence to multiple campaigns.
    How many fiery motivated people with hard study and work ethic are extinguished simply because their money fuel has been all but expended.

    Let some of us get through and wave back from the other side!
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
    Well I got an e-mail link to buy this for $10 so I'm gonna give it a go.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    $10? from where?
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  • Profile picture of the author tabithanaylor
    We must be on one of the same mailing lists! I got an email last night about it - also for $10.
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  • Profile picture of the author AceOfShirts
    Funny how we all got the email and ended up here.

    Most of the screen shots show 2010 for the year. I was wondering if it is all outdated now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello!

    It looks promising and all but you could at least research about it more and try knowing if it has a free trial period so you can see if it's worth it. You can also try researching for testimonies if it's really effective and look for reviews if your not yet sure.

    Best of Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author kb24
    Is this product still worth getting?
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