UpsellNetWork, will it be ClickBank crusher?

Maybe it will have some built-in upsell features, so you don't have to manually queue upsells anymore...
Or his old network didn't make enough money and he wants to try again with a big launch? I don't really know how big PayDotCom is, but why does he want to bring up a new network instead of improving the old one?

Hey Bobby

Might be ok if he changes it to "No Garbage Upsell Network" especially after the spate of crazy worthless upsells doing the rounds now.


Regards

Bronwyn and Keith

Fully agreed with Bronke that's my exact same concern too!!!

Mike has said PayDotCom has been one of his biggest money makers in the past so I think it is only natural he tries to improve upon it.

I don't get how it works exactly though...

do you make your own upsell or have to pick from upsells in the market place? Do you list your product as an upsell for others to use in their sales funnel? none of this is quite clear on their site.

I think being able to pick other peoples products as an upsell would be a huge game changer in a vendors sales funnel! so long as I could also include my own in the funnel for 100% commission - the fees

It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out, definitely the "No Rubbish" idea proposed above would be great

By analyzing the flaws of clickbank they can offer a much better network. But crusher ? it takes time to get to that position.

I'm not really impressed with their over hyped claims, particularly the "we're the only network to pay everyone directly to their paypal account at point of sale".

I know this isn't true because I have exactly the same thing in DigiResults.com

Nor do I understand why he'd create a new network when he already has PayDotCom.

It seems to be the norm in our industry that products get launched with feature set X and then never improved on (seriously has anything been added to PDC in the entire time it's been around?) before finally being moved into unsupported territory when the "next big thing" comes out.

I know this post is borderline "guru bashing", so apologies to Mike F. It highlights annoying trends in our industry but I certainly wouldn't want this to be perceived as any kind of personal attack. I'm a big fan of Mike F's and have followed a lot of his work.

Anything can be a big money maker on Clickbank if there's a enough people mailing it you need two things in order in make a good clickbank product a good sales page and a product that's to a standard that atleast 80/90% of people will be happy keeping and that's it simple as that.

Hey all,

The Upsell Network is meant to work with essentially any product or network you might already be using, whether it be Clickbank, Paydotcom, your own product outside of any network, etc..

It's meant to allow you to easily create your own upsell chains from others and share in the profits in real time, as well as share the refunds in real time as well (no risk to vendors or affiliates).

On top of that, you can do a "name your own price" feature that allows you to charge more than what the vendor is asking for and not only get your normal affiliate cut, but also keep the difference as well on top of that, edit sales pages when they allow it, integrate with a call center to automatically get call center sales if you want (this can send checks in the thousands of dollars and can be shared by affiliates and vendors), and there's a ton more stuff that will be added in the next couple weeks that's pretty cool.

As for the marketplace, we had it open to some beta testers prior and are slowly rolling it out publicly, so now really is the time to get offers up there before we do a big push.

We changed a rule so people can't throw up crappy resell rights or PLR stuff without doing major edits themselves, so anything that's not up to par in the marketplace or objectionable won't stay there. Within a short time, though, it should get very impressive.

UN is essentially a great way to get upsell chains on autopilot, get your own products at your own price without doing support, integrate with call centers, and other major features coming out in the next short while.

Brian

After I posted the above, I realized that I should probably clarify by giving a couple examples. Here are a few things you can do:

1. Let's say you like product A, product B, and product C, but you also want to include your own product. You can instantly create an upsell chain where after someone buys your front end product, they see your own upsell (if you want), followed by upsells and downsells (if you desire) with products A, B, and C (which are other vendor's but you get the cuts in real time).

2. Let's say that you see a cool script in the marketplace for sale for $27, but you think that you could sell it easily for $197 like hot cakes on the front end (or as an upsell), with the name your own price option that most vendors check off as an option they allow, you can charge $197 for it and edit the sales page to create almost a white label version of an existing product. At the same time, when you make the sales, you don't have to do any work as the vendor does the support for you (if you wish).

If the vendor allowed 50% commissions, you'd get your half of the $27 plus the difference from that to $197 (so you'd walk away with around $180+ or so of pure profit).

3. Let's say that you have your own product and your own upsells and you just want to easily integrate with a call center targeted to your leads and appearing to have the calls placed on your behalf. You can have an option where all your buyers can be called by our call center on your behalf (so they look like they're calling from your own company mentioning your name) and get huge commissions from that. And if you want, you can also import your existing leads into the funnel to the call center as well, as well as choose to share the commissions with your affiliates (a HUGE incentive) on the call centers.


There will also be some very cool features being released in the next week or two right before we do a hard push on it. Now is just the time that we're trying to slowly get more members in before going big.

Brian

Brian, Normally you'd redirect to your members area where they can download ur stuff after they paid, how does USN deal with when you have some1 else's product(s) as an upsell?

Also, it is my view, the network should be very stringent in what products it allows, and that should include a good sales copy & maybe if you want to take it 1 step further, having to provide actual conversion stats of the copy itself, because i am kinda sick of seeing crappy products with rubbish sales letters being promoted on Clickbank.

@Chris
Actually, Mike is supposed to be releasing Paydotcom 2.0 sometime soon. Its a massive upgrade on PDC, and supposedly, he claims it'll make it far more competive with Clickbank.

LOL. Many millions can be made without being as big as Clickbank. That shouldn't be the barometer as to whether PDC or the Upsell Network "flops".

Both sites are services that help IMers make money. Congrats to Mike for launching yet another good idea.

Chris,

Not sure if you are reading what my partner on the UpseelNetwork Brian Koz wrote.

But anyways, I will explain and clarify

First, PayDotCom contunues to grow every year and "that" site is rolling out a 2.0 phase soon. We plan on making it bigger. A site that does 2MM per year in profit in it's current state in $3 fees is far from a flop. PDC is not a CB killer but offers a good service for people looking to have things like $497 products, lower refunds, physical products, and instant payment to their account for cash flow.

But, this is about upsell network.

This is what the U.N. is... HERE IS A VIDEO

Easy Video Player » Upsell-Network-Demo

(This video was made for people months ago to beta test. The site has a lot more now then you see in the video.)

So... NOW you see this has nothing to do with Clickbank or PayDotCom

This allows a person with a front end product to create UPSELL CHAINS or
a person with a product to list it in our marketplace as an upsell to be used
for other peoples front end products.

The problem with this thread is the THREAD NAME. It created a "frame" for everyone to compare to clickbank.

The better name would have been.

"Will the Upsell Network really help clickbank vendors increase their DPL like they say it will?"

Check it out. when you learn more I am pretty sure you will say "wow!'

Without understanding it, you will only speculate. We are going to add videos to the site to make it more clear but our FIRST GOAL was to build the marketplace.

Hey guys

This is a file I have for the VOICE OVER for the video that is being made for the Upsell Network.

This was a ROUGH DRAFTE I wrote at like 3am so the text may be sloppy and may have typo's and what not. But I can't find the final draft.

But imagine this with cool music, and nice video slide in's and screen shots. (Where is Andy Jenkins The Video Boss when you need him.)

But really, after you read this, go check it out for youself. test out our upsells against your OTO's and see if you can increase profits.

Or, add it to the back of your upsell path.

Give away a free report and lead them to an upsell etc..

Or just list your product and get sales just for being in the marketplace. (But write your copy like an upsell)

OK HERE IT IS


*****

Play this video if:
- Your upsell path is not converting well.
- You want to Increase your profits by adding high converting upsells and downsells trees to your current front end product.
- You have an upsell and want to test a higher converting offer.
- You have an upsellupsell but need more upsells and downsells
- You have a product and want more exposure and sales.
- You don;t have a product but want to make money using free reports and landing pages.

******
VIDEO SLAES COPY

Meet John. John is an information marketer selling software and ebooks. He has lots of products that sell well. He uses sites like CLickbank, PayDotCom, and 1Shoppincart and Infusionsoft to sell his ebooks. But John wants to get a lot of affiliates so gives 75% commission away so he can make more sales. The problem is, the 25% does not leave much profit for John after merchant account fees and overhead. So what John needs is a marketing funnel or backend products to create an upsell. Easier said then done. Too bad there wasn't away where John could create upsells with other people's products at the click of a button.

Well now there is.

Welcome to the Upsell Network.com

Now everyone has a back end product.

So now John simply logs into his account and creates an Upsell Chain. Here is how it works. John can either browse the marketplace by category or search for keywords. John's product is on how to get started making money online. But it just goes over the basics, His customers may want some more advanced content to learn but John does not have the time to make more products. So he finds a product he links and creates an upsell.

He can now chose to add more upsells and downsells. The choice is up to him. The Upsell network now gives him a start link. So instead of sending them to the "thank you:" page to download his ebook, he sends them to the upsell. The upsell network will take care of sending the customer all of the promised items, including his ebook when they order or say "no thanks" to his upsells. The good things is, the upsell network has great products with great PRE WRITTEN sales copy, that John now makes more money for every ebook he sells and does not have to do anything at all.

The cool thing is, John can add a video on top of the offer to endorse it to make it look like just another step in his sale process. Oh, and yes… John can even add his Site graphics on top to give a feel of continuity.

Here is what makes the Uspell Network so cool and unlike anything else. The Upsell network uses a special technology from PayPal called "Adaptive Payments" This allows John to get paid his affiliate commissions instantly to his paypal account right. That is right, when his customer land on an upsell page, they are buying someone sleaze product. That "other marketer / partner", lets call him Greeg, takes the money for the sale and paypal takes money from Gregg and pays John his commission in the spot. All refunds are also taken care of the same way with PayPal new API's and the Upsell nwtrowk takes full advantage of it. It is a win win for John and Greg. And remember, the upsell network takes care of all of this like Magic.

The upsell network also follows up with John's customers to sell other products in the marketplace targeted to his customer and he gets paid instantly to his paypal account. But best of all, if John likes, his leads can be called by the partners of the Upsell Network at our call center to increase profits. John opens his mail box and finds checks for $1500 every now and then because his leads are called because his chose this option when building his campaign.

John was so excited, he added unpsell chains to all of his products and nearly doubled his profits over night. He told his sister Michelle about it and she asked how she could use the upsell network when she does not have a product even though she is a fitness lover. He told her to just build a landing page and give a way a free diet report and then offer them an upsell from the upset network. After giving away just a few reports, one of her leads purchased an ebook on how to get six pack abs and she made an instant commission to her paypal account for $20.

After seeing his sister make a sale of someone sells product. John had a light bulb go off in his head. He realized that he can list his products in the upsell network. And he did just that. He listed his ebook on Low Carb Diets and a few days later another marketer picked up his product to use an an upsell. And now John is making an additional 10 sales a day and his product is getting very popular in the marketplace that gives him even more exposure. Heck, John just check his stats and sees he has over 20 people now using his product as an upsell. John has never made so much money.

Now John is telling everyone about the upsell network. It's everyone's back end product. Add more profits to your sales today or list your proudest in our marketplace. Or you can be like John and do both.

Join the Upsell Netwrok for free.

To answer your question, this is all taken care of easily through the Upsell Network. If someone buys 3 upsells, for instance, they can get an e-mail from each one instantly as well as be taken to a summary page that shows all three of their purchases with any extra information they'd need like download links, a notice to check their e-mail, or anything else.

As for your other question, part of what UN will do is allow you to see what's converting the best, what's making the most money, as well as a feature coming shortly that will allow you to automatically have your upsells change in real time based upon your product category(s) and what's selling the best if you wish (you can also use hand picked upsells or split test upsells in real time).

And yes, we'll be monitoring the marketplace closely so we get quality products in there. However, if there's an issue with a sales page where you think you can make a better one, we have a "name your own price" feature where you can edit a sales page as well as raise the price of a listed product to essentially white label it and keep your affiliate cut plus the difference.

Right now we're trying to grow out the marketplace right before we do a big push to get sales rolling in for everyone. But having said that, even now we're seeing sales right off the bat of products in UN.

Brian