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Unread 3rd November 2010, 05:19 PM   #1
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Hi all,

From what i've read most people recommend the use of Aweber when you want to build a mailing list. Right now I believe that I only have 2 sites that would warrant building a mailing list, and am wondering if there were alternatives to Aweber that I can use with Wordpress. I've found a few through searching but was hoping others had some general recommendations.

Ideally I want my mailing list to include members who want to be notified of various specials (or coupons) since my sites are predominately product based.

Thanks for any help!
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Default Re: Alternatives to Aweber

It doesn't matter what the platform is, I don't believe. I am using Imnica Mail now and I really like it. It's way cheaper than Aweber. The only drawback for me is that it doesn't integrate with as much other stuff as Aweber does but I believe they're continuing to add features.

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getresponse is another big player.

There are loads of scripts that can be used on your own server or as WP plugins to act as autoresponders but for something as valuable as your list, aweber etc. should be used, especially for the security and reliabiluty aspects of it.
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Default Re: Alternatives to Aweber

Prosperity Central works pretty good free 1800# with voicemail for anyone wanting to call you.

About 5$ more a month than aweber for the basic service.

I got away from it though because they didn't support attachments in your emails and I use that alot for free offers.

They also have a two tier affiliate program meaning you get a cut from anyone you sign up whoever they sign up.
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Mailchimp looks likely to become the 100 pound gorilla in this space (sorry, couldn't resist the pun). It has loads of great features (e.g. want to see who on your list also follows you on Twitter/Facebook?) and it's free if you have a list under 1,000.
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Mailchimp looks likely to become the 100 pound gorilla in this space (sorry, couldn't resist the pun). It has loads of great features (e.g. want to see who on your list also follows you on Twitter/Facebook?) and it's free if you have a list under 1,000.
Anna Johnson,
Those 100 pound gorilla? guys are smart.
Aweber or Get Response for the starting people are a ripoff.
One of them already changed the price and the other, I couldn't find the price schedule. They used to have it...
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Hi all,

Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look at these tools tonight. One thing to note is that I am not too concerned with setting up an auto-responder. I wanted to collect names so that I can email them of special offers (like coupon codes), or other sales based on the group I am marketing for. Would setting up a list in Outlook suffice?

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Hi all,

From what i've read most people recommend the use of Aweber when you want to build a mailing list. Right now I believe that I only have 2 sites that would warrant building a mailing list, and am wondering if there were alternatives to Aweber that I can use with Wordpress. I've found a few through searching but was hoping others had some general recommendations.

Ideally I want my mailing list to include members who want to be notified of various specials (or coupons) since my sites are predominately product based.

Thanks for any help!
Getresponse is a good alternative. However, if you cant make it work with aweber then I'm PRETTY sure its not the autoresponder that's lacking.

Any questions just let me know
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I am glad this thread was started, I had the same question but now it's been answered, thanks guys
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I actually moved my lists from Aweber to Profollow because of the 10,000 person limit before the next price increase vs 500 on Aweber.
Don't get me wrong, Aweber is awesome. I just wanted to scale down my monthly expenses a little.

I think that Profollow is the "generic" version of Aweber.
Back-end interface looks kind of the same

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Mailchimp looks likely to become the 100 pound gorilla in this space (sorry, couldn't resist the pun). It has loads of great features (e.g. want to see who on your list also follows you on Twitter/Facebook?) and it's free if you have a list under 1,000.
The drawback w/ Mailchimp is that they apparently have a strict policy against using their service for affiliate marketing. It's fine for promoting your own products, but be careful otherwise. Just an FYI.

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I think that Profollow is the "generic" version of Aweber.
Back-end interface looks kind of the same
Profollow is based on an older version of Aweber IIRC
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Default Re: Alternatives to Aweber

I have been looking at the same thing. I really hate the idea of paying any kind of monthly fee. After doing some Googling I found several free newsletter/ marketer /opt-in/opt-out softwares that you can run from your own machine. In other words they aren't hosted solutions. Either you upload em to your server or they actually run from your desktop.

Since I'm running my own Windows server I was looking specifically for ASP based solutions because I really don't want to install PHP or MySQL on my machine. If you don't have those concerns then you choices should be even greater.

BTW if you want to learn about running your own server I have some stuff on that at babblepfish.com. If your ISP is Comcast you probably can run your own web server and host your own web site.
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The drawback w/ Mailchimp is that they apparently have a strict policy against using their service for affiliate marketing. It's fine for promoting your own products, but be careful otherwise.
This is the only thing holding me back from using Mailchimp.
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I just took a look at MailChimp and it looks great. I'm just wondering why anyone would use the Pay as you Go infrequent plans when they could use the free monthly service (provided they had less than 1,000 subscribers).
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Default Re: Alternatives to Aweber

I have written a PROs/CONs mini-review about Aweber, Getresponse and iContact in this post

Best Email Marketing Software - Recommendations

In my opinion today Getresponse is not comparable to Aweber (they messed it up with the last edition, IMHO) but iContact is getting my thumbs up. It's not as fast as Aweber but it is much easier to deal with (think importing lists for instance).

But in the post I wrote other info.

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Default Re: Alternatives to Aweber

I havent used anything other than Aweber as I find they provide everything I need and at a reasonable cost. However I have heard decent reports about GetResponse - that would probably be the first one I looked at if I were considering changing.
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iContact is getting my thumbs up. It's not as fast as Aweber but it is much easier to deal with (think importing lists for instance).
iContact is what I am going to use with my clients just because of the importing feature alone! That's a huge thing for offline B&M business owners, IMHO.

Thanks for the review, Marco

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Check out Listwire. Very capable, feature packed......and free.
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I HIGHLY recommend profollow, it's the private label of aweber, but tons cheaper ($20/month for upto 10k people, and then $10 extra for every 10k after that)

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Profollow is based on an older version of Aweber IIRC
Profollow does not have the new advanced analytics functionality that Aweber added recently (actually, I don't remember when they added it... sometime in the last year or two).

If you use those advanced analytics, then Aweber is the way to go. If you're not going to use the advanced analytics, then Profollow is a good alternative.

In December Profollow will be upgraded to include the new advanced analytics package... and the pricing will be changing to match Aweber's pricing.

People who are currently Profollow members, or who sign up before the change in December will have a choice... they can either:

1) be grandfathered in with the current feature set and the current pricing

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2) switch to the new feature set and the new pricing


If you sign up with Profollow AFTER the change in December, then you will get the new features, along with the new pricing.


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Hey,

Aweber really is a good service packed with features, but some of those features it does have are not necessary. You want something that's reasonable, does the job of sending emails out and can manage your email list efficiently.

I use IMNICAMAIL at the moment because purely it's a lot cheaper than Aweber and it has all the features I need.

In terms of pricing...

Imnica -Up to 5k Subscribers $10
Aweber - Up to 5k Subscribers $30

So if you want something that does the job I'd go for IMNICAMAIL. But if you want something that does the job packed with features I'd pay more for Aweber.


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Another affordable alternative is profollow, which is actually the grandfathered "white label" version of Aweber run by Jeff Walker. It's a solid alternative and it only loses out a little in terms of analytics to the present (more expensive) version of Aweber.

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Mailchimp looks likely to become the 100 pound gorilla in this space (sorry, couldn't resist the pun). It has loads of great features (e.g. want to see who on your list also follows you on Twitter/Facebook?) and it's free if you have a list under 1,000.
Read the T&C's on mailchimp

MailChimp Terms of Use | MailChimp.com

(f) Prohibited Content and Industries

Don't use MailChimp to send anything offensive, to promote anything illegal, or to harass anyone. You may not send:

Affiliate marketing

You are paying nothing but risking everything ...
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Mailchimp is great in terms of usability and it's constantly getting better in terms of the stats and everything else they provide. In addition to that it's also free if you're list size is below 1000.

Though the guy above does make a valid point!
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I just took a look at MailChimp and it looks great. I'm just wondering why anyone would use the Pay as you Go infrequent plans when they could use the free monthly service (provided they had less than 1,000 subscribers).
as said earlier in this thread, if you are doing affiliate marketing than you are not welcome with Mailchimp.

I use Mailchimp for some of my offline clients so they can communicate with their clients and prospects. I really like their user interface and how you can easily create campaigns on a list segment, get detailed reports, and how it integrates with other applications. And I like the fact that you can start at no cost if your list is small.

I use iContact to communicate with my clients and prospects in the Offline world. I like the fact that they don't require double-opt-in on all lists, so I can follow up with prospects I have met to continue the education and top-of-mind-awareness process. I pay about $10 a month.

I also use aweber for most of my affiliate marketing nichesites lists.

Overall, you first have to determine what your needs are, for what type of business model you are going to use the ESP for, how many subscribers you have, will have in 3-6 months time - then you can determine which one is right for you.

But if you intend to use an ESP regularly in a business context - then the $20 - $50 or so a month will be easily made up for in a short period of time.
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I've been using Listmail for a few years now without issue.
They've always answered my questions promptly as well.
What I like the most is that it was a one time, reasonable fee Of course that's because I'm sending the emails, not them...

Just grabbed the url and oddly enough it's says it's free now??? I hope it's okay to add the link here.
ListMailPRO | Send text and HTML email with our FREE email list marketing software.

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From what i've read most people recommend the use of Aweber when you want to build a mailing list. Right now I believe that I only have 2 sites that would warrant building a mailing list, and am wondering if there were alternatives to Aweber that I can use with Wordpress. I've found a few through searching but was hoping others had some general recommendations.

Ideally I want my mailing list to include members who want to be notified of various specials (or coupons) since my sites are predominately product based.

Thanks for any help!
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I've been using Listmail for a few years now without issue.
They've always answered my questions promptly as well.
What I like the most is that it was a one time, reasonable fee Of course that's because I'm sending the emails, not them...

Just grabbed the url and oddly enough it's says it's free now??? I hope it's okay to add the link here.
ListMailPRO | Send text and HTML email with our FREE email list marketing software.
Thanks! This looks great. I like the demo and think I could manage a small list effectively using this. Im a bit confused how to set this up on my wordpress site though.

Do most of these services come with Wordpress plugins or code?

Thanks!
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People who are currently Profollow members, or who sign up before the change in December will have a choice... they can either:

1) be grandfathered in with the current feature set and the current pricing

or:

2) switch to the new feature set and the new pricing


If you sign up with Profollow AFTER the change in December, then you will get the new features, along with the new pricing.
Hi Jeff,

If I sign-up to the 12-month deal (before December), will I have to pay again for the new features, or will these be granted as I would have already paid-up for 12 months' service?

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I know that sounds like a very stupid question but did you guys and girls base your opinion on the email delivery?

Can I expect that my emails are getting delivered into the inbox rather the spam folder when using aweber or getresponse??????
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You might want to check out http://ultimatemarketingcenter.com/

They have autoresponders, hosting, scripts and lots of other features for the monthly fee.

I have used them for years, mainly for hosting but they are pretty good.
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Getresponse is a good alternative. However, if you cant make it work with aweber then I'm PRETTY sure its not the autoresponder that's lacking.
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Add my vote for Imnicamail

There is a WSO going on for it at the moment.
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I have used many autoresponder scripts on my host (and had to stop) and for the last 2 years use aweber...will not change it for anything else. Why? because most of these shared hosts and even reseller account hosts don't allow a certain amount of emails to go out on a daily basis...so use caution when using your own mailing list script on your host. Something to consider...
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nobody bothered to answer my question so I dare to ask again :-)))

Can I expect a better delivery rate with the more expensive ARs????
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nobody bothered to answer my question so I dare to ask again :-)))

Can I expect a better delivery rate with the more expensive ARs????

As far as I know, aweber has the best deliverability out there
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Try these, I just happen to have a list from some research we were doing:

GetResponse.com
BZ9.com
streamsend.com
aweber.com
123response.com
emailaces.com
sendfree.com
supersponders.com
quicktellpro.com
simplymailsolutions.com
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mailingmanager.co.uk
smartautoresponder.com
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wealthylegacy.com
zrd9.com/xy/index.php
responsemagic.com
email-autoresponder-free.com
xtreeme.com/
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mailchimp.com/features/power_features/autoresponders
freeautobot.com
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icontactplus.com
post-master.net
constantcontact.com/UK
interspire.com
email2db.com
e-mailresponder.com
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dirtcheapautoresponder.com
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massmailingnews.com
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8bitpublishing.com
ezinedirector.com
autoresponder-marketing.simplycast.com/
trafficwave.net/
varpro.com/index.html
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nobody bothered to answer my question so I dare to ask again :-)))

Can I expect a better delivery rate with the more expensive ARs????
In my experience the answer is no. My company has tested aweber which is a main stream autoresponder, but we have also tested high profile expensive autoresponder systems. One even cost $4000 a month and we had to travel to London in the UK for a days training.

After about 4 months we could see no improvement in delivery and/or openings.
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I have used many autoresponder scripts on my host (and had to stop) and for the last 2 years use aweber...will not change it for anything else. Why? because most of these shared hosts and even reseller account hosts don't allow a certain amount of emails to go out on a daily basis...so use caution when using your own mailing list script on your host. Something to consider...
You simply need a reliable server, supplied by a relaible web host who is not paranoid about the odd inevitable spam complaint.
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I know that sounds like a very stupid question but did you guys and girls base your opinion on the email delivery?

Can I expect that my emails are getting delivered into the inbox rather the spam folder when using aweber or getresponse??????
The good news is that you can check out the deliverability of any autoresponder service for free on sites such as senderscore[dot]org. This helps you verify for yourself all the deliverability claims that you will inevitably run across in your research.
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Try these, I just happen to have a list from some research we were doing:

GetResponse.com
BZ9.com
streamsend.com
aweber.com
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You forgot DirectResponders.com in your list
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ListWire is worth checking out. It is free and I'm looking into using it myself. The one drawback I see to it is that once people confirm their subscription to your list, they are taken to a one time offer for one of the creator's products. It fits right in if you're involved in the make money online niche, and you may even get a commission if your subscriber buys.

However it poses a relevance issue if you're in a completely different niche, so definitely consider that.

One of the things I want to find out is if there is a way to opt out of that OTO page for your lists. Even if that means I'd have to pay a monthly fee, it might still be worth it, especially if it's a flat fee that is not affected by the size of my lists.
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