nikhilg

Hello,

I am om Alex Goad's mailing list and received and email from him about his upcoming product Google Conquest.

I was impressed by Alex Goad earlier products - especially 4 TAM. But this although it sounds tempting is making me pause.

It is a membership site and it is about blogs. From what I have gathered in the email there are a lot of tools that make creating blogs easy - just push a button and the blog is ready, populated with your affiliate links and so forth. Alex also mentions in the email that some of his methods are approaching the gray area of SEO. Now is the creator of the product himself mentions this then we can assume that that his techniques may be more black hat than he is willing to admit and trying to fool Google using black hat techniques is not something that I want to get into.

It seems that even newbies that use his methods can make upwards of 100 dollars per day using his techniques and that is what is tempting me. But I would like the opinion of the members of this forum.

I hope I am not violating the terms of use of this forum but I would like to reproduce Alex's email to me below.

Email begins

Hi Nikhil,

I'll try to keep this short but I have
to tell you, I'm really excited...

Finally, the finishing touches are being
put on my latest creation.

To be fair, this has been practically years
in the making. In short, I've finally automated
just about 98% of everything that goes into micro-niche
site building and promotion.

No, it's not black hat, it's somewhere between
white and grey. Aka the sites get built real fast,
the promotion almost total autopilot and these
things last and last earning around 10-20$ a
day from affiliate commissions and adsense.

To make a long story short, a couple of people
have tested parts of it and several are now making
2-300$ dollars a day with a few hours of implementation...

And they have only just seen a *part* of the system...

I'm going to be telling you all about it if you
follow along on the launch blog, and you'll really
want to do that because this program:

- Removes the need for technical skills or experience
- Is proven to work for total beginners and average everyday people
- Is simple to the point of copy pasting and button pushing
- Strictly limited in quantity

Check it out here and don't forget to optin or
you will miss crucial information:

-->> URL deleted by the forum
-----------------------------------
The Lowdown
-----------------------------------

The keys to this system are:

Micro-niching at the speed of light,
allowing you to create ultra targeted,
super specific blogs full of content,
images and videos, your ad blocks and
aff links...

There is a syndication aspect that not
only allows you to grab automatic solid,
high PR links from various quality sites,
it also means you have the options of having
other publishers populate your real estate
with their unique content...

Beyond that, there is just a ton to say about
this because it's taken much of what I've
stumbled upon in my very lucrative career
and made it *automated*.

You really need to hear the full story because
the opening day is coming right up and quantities
must stay very limited so that the charter group
and mastermind make out like bandits.

If you really want to be taken under wing in
something heavily proven, then this is it:

-->>URL deleted by the forum
While you're there, post a comment...

Have a great weekend,

Alex & Saj



Email ends

regards

Nikhil

John34

when it is launching and whats a URL ?

vicone

The URL is the address that you type (or enter) into a browser to connect to that domain on the internet.

I also received Alex's email and was wondering how this offer compares with FirePow.

As Google Conquest hasn't been released at this stage, it'll be interesting to read comments from those who have first hand experience.

Ivan

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It's a membership site and it's about building blog network combined with 6 days coaching. Nothing new, heh?

Actually, Alex Goad has now partnered with Andrew Hansens. And blogging firepow is one of Google Conquest modules.

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mudmat

It is on creating minisites and getting rank high in the search engines by having backlinks from related blogs, social sites etc.

It is a membership site that allows to do all this with a simple touch of a button.

AdrianMansilla

firepow Is it a module only of gxxgle conquest?

4thstreet

Looks like only a few are advertising it.

Funny though, I haven't seen it listed in any of the affiliate marketplaces to be able to become an affiliate for it. Usually with launches this big there is some where to sign up and even though you can't usually purchase through your own link, being an affiliate you learn more about the product and it helps you decide on whether you want to go for it.

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There will be 5 modules from Google Conquest (including ready-made product, blogging software, and 60 days coaching) and will be focusing in building micro-niche blogs (also minisites as alternative). It not listed in any affiliate marketplace because it use 1shoppingcart.

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Shevd

Google Conquest will be launching at 12 Noon EST/5PM GMT on the 25th November. So not long to go it will be interesting see how long it takes for the memberships to sell out.

jrsencio

Google Conquest is quite a comprehensive membership site... I learned about it when I asked Alex to give me a tour of the product because I wanted to write a review about it for my product review site..

Its pretty solid... 5 key modules..
- blueprints
- blog creation and management machine that creates niche blogs automatically, yes this is where his partner Andrew of Firepow comes in
- 60 day challenge to show you what to do day by day in order to be successful in just two months
- you belong to a blog network where you get backlinks by syndicating your content on other sites... this is similar to sites like Traffic Kahuna or LinkVana
- 5 hot product ready to promote that are complete with website, squeeze pages, auto responder sequence.. etc
- and personal coaching from the gurus

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ConcordeWarrior

Looks like there is a crowd waiting for the launch, 2000 or so. There won't be space for everybody as he will limit the number of participants.

At $$$999 plus a $$99 monthly membership fee this is nothing that I can afford. This is a program for those who already have money (quite a steep price, for me at least) and plan to make even more money.

I trust that Alex will supply a grea product but this is not for us poor guys and gals who have to scrimp and save in these times of economic slump.

C'est la vie...

homejobcreator

It sounds like a comprehensive, proven system - just didn't understand why the coaching only starts 30 days after purchase.

Peter Johnston

Yeah I like Alex Goad but relying on Google for 100% of your business is like putting your house on red and it comes up black. I prefer methods which don't rely on the almighty G.

Peter Johnston

If all we needed do was touch a button Sir wouldn't life be just dainty?

Methinks it's just a little more involved than that. Hold on to your wallet for now anddo som indepth research.

It may be an awsome thing, it may not. DO YOUR RESEARCH!

Save your hard earned.

vicone

A simpler, less expensive alternative to Google Conquest could be WordPress Direct. They have a quick set-up system for WordPress sites. From their website it appears they have 1500 themes available. Their version of WP can be set up on your own self-hosted account that draws content from links to their system. A few details from

http://www.WordPressDirect.com

I couldn't find a pricing structure but they offer a free membership which allows you to set up 3 free WP websites. They have different levels of membership with different levels of service provided.

Ivan

gcintermed

The product sounds impressive, but $997 up front is very steep...especially for a product that is targeted at the frustrated newbie. Kinda like Marie Antoinette selling cake to the starving masses.

Gotta think that either Alex is mixed up about who his target market is, or is deliberately going after "suckers", those who willingly toss thousands in search of a dream, without asking too many questions. (Count me as a recovering sucker!)

gcintermed

You just gave me an idea... Let's make a law that says every guru that sells a product like this must keep track of the results their clients achieve, and report them to the public. It would be interesting to know how many people who spend $997 actually make it back. My guess is a very small percentage. Prove me wrong, gurus!

Matt James

That's hardly the "gurus" fault.

Human nature dictates that 99% of people won't take any action at all - no matter the quality of the product.

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How long do you guys think before the server crashes?

LarsG

What kind of ready made products are in the package? My guess is other marketing products?

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askloz

Alex does things half arsed, one product I got from him he promised to do some videos, which he did, but he agreed that there were more to be made that showed exactly what he does, but he never got around to it.

His support emails are short lived, ask too many questions and he stops replying. Or just gives you short arsed answers that aren't worth diddly.

People like this are only after one thing, and that's to earn as much from you as possible. This trend tends to get larger as the months go by, so called guru's not giving a monkies when it comes to PROPER unconditional support.

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Alex Goad creates good products and he stands behind them.

The case studies are impressive and attainable.

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TheNightOwl

LMAO! 'Tis getting tedious, innit?

Thank you to everyone who contributed to the Global Giving Japanese Earthquake and Tsunami Relief Fund. I have friends in Japan, none of whom -- fortunately -- were affected. But lots of people are still doing it tough. So, thank you on their behalf.

Kuma

No doubt that Alex Goad normally delivers but the price tag he is asking this time is way too high.

What do Forum members think of just buying firepow or even better wordpress direct as an alternative?
If you are a member of Brute Force SEO you should be able to reach the same goals especially when the social network submission module will be added this week (hopefully) and you will have saved a lot of money. Maybe you are supposed to push a few more buttons but so what?

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TheNightOwl

I went and had a gander at the site. The current headline (that was served to me, at least) starts off:

"Reformed Black Hat Master Requires Novice Crew to..." etcetera.

I'm wondering how this helps his pitch. It immediately put me off: "Ahhh... so he was a black hat Master ripping people off with cookie stuffing and who knows what else (of which I'm sure there are a million things even worse that I don't know about and would give me nightmares if I did)...

...and now he's found a conscience somewhere and decided to stop shafting people and just help the little guy, eh?"

Bollocks.

Okay, that's a tad unfair. It could be all 100% true. Maybe he really is reformed and is out to help the little guy (the little guy with a thousand bucks plus another hundred a month in his pocket).

It's not as if I don't think people can't change coz clearly they can.

But usually it has to do with being locked away for some time in a 6x8 concrete cell and doing a bunch of therapy and having plenty of time to reflect on why what you did perhaps wasn't such a good thing to do.

If someone's success is based on doing dodgy stuff and there ain't been no penalty to speak of, then why would I believe someone has just up and changed purely out of the goodness of their heart?

Gimmeabreak!

And while I'm on this little rant, it surprises me to see who is sending out affiliate offers to their list. Most of the usual suspects don't surprise me; they'll whore themselves for just about anything that comes down the pike, but I've gotten a couple from [I've edited the name here because his sycophantic cheerleaders will just flame me and stop reading] in the last couple of days, which kinda surprised me.

(Well, on reflection, not hugely. I think it's about time I unsubscribed from his list--long-standing, well-respected member of the Warrior Forum or not--because in the last 6 months I've gotten a bunch of promotions through my inbox for things that have left me wondering how he got such a good reputation anyway. Anyway...)

And, yeah, yeah, I know [said person] is a respected member of the forum. But that doesn't give anyone immediate and unchallengeable immunity from criticism. All the same, I've removed his name because, as I said (but it bears repeating), people will just stop reading.

Look, I'm sure he's not the only one.

I'm growing increasingly disillusioned with the hypocrisy from people I thought were "good guys". Hypocrisy? What hypocrisy? That's a pretty sharp claim there, NightOwl! Whoa, boy!

Yeah, it is. So this is what I mean. Tell me if I'm out of order...

One the one hand they'll tell you that the only way to get ahead is to:

(1) choose a niche you're passionate about

(2) provide A1 top-notch quality content

(3) go for evergreen approaches so you're not at the mercy of one traffic source

(4) provide MASSIVE value (I capitalised and bolded that because I've had it spewed forth sooooooooo many times now I've lost count)

(5) Not to be seduced by "push-button", fly-by-night gimmicks

Etcetera... You get the idea. (Feel free to add to my list)

Yet... something comes along like this where a nice big fat commissions can be earned (and even more tantalising? The recurring element) and...

whaddayaknow! Somehow they're IN, IN, IN!

QUICK, grab it now before it sells out!

But I'm not sure how a solution like this Google Conquest meets any of the criteria above. Not that I'm just focusing on Google Conquest here. Anything that's about generating content "with the push of a button" and then playing some kind of gaming the search engines game (which is only a matter of time before Google just either devalues the links from, or just straight up delists those linkfarms (whoops! I meant "Exclusive Member-Only Access Niche Blog Networks"), is hardly likely to be providing real value to a netsurfer.

But I could be wrong. I'm more than happy to stand corrected and eat my hat.

I feel that I could be waiting some time on that one, though.

Then next week, for the folks with big mailing lists in IM, it'll be back to the same old "Cover the fundamentals or you'll forever be chasing your tail..." tosh.

** puke **



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Thank you to everyone who contributed to the Global Giving Japanese Earthquake and Tsunami Relief Fund. I have friends in Japan, none of whom -- fortunately -- were affected. But lots of people are still doing it tough. So, thank you on their behalf.

Kuma

Well roared, lion (or rather: nightowl)
I also wonder about his content syndicating feature:
Alex says the "unstopable crushing power of quality one way links"
will stop google from delisting your blog despite of duplicate content.
If that´s the case then I guess it won´t be long before they change their algorithms-shouldn´t be too difficult for them.
What Google Conquest is doing is also a slap in the face of those who are wasting their time creating unique or only semi-unique content

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Adam Sussman

Night Owl - Nice rant :-)

Linda B

I've also been wondering about this program. I've been looking seriously at Firepow and trying to compare them. From reading some of the reviews I found in Google, I read that it is actually built around Firepow. It just adds some training modules and some ready-made product. But since Firepow also has extensive training - and doesn't have the huge upfront cost - I'm thinking GC might not be the best way to go.

Li Weng

I have Alex Goad's affiliate payload. I quite liked that report and it had some gold ideas in there. It's worth the price just because of these killer business ideas. However, I found good strategies but no clear step-by-step action plan. It was definitely lacking in the detail and didn't get into too much specifics. I wonder if it'll be the same with Google Conquest.

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GlenH

What I really HATE about all these 'get Google' type of launches, is that on the majority of the 'sales letter' pages, you never seem to find a 'Contact Us' link.

There are obligatory batch of 'disclaimer' pages', but very, very rarely is there any easy way to contact the creator (or someone) to ask questions of.

That always tells me they simply don't want anyone asking questions about their product before anyone buys it.

I for one never buy a product unless there's some way I contact someone to ask questions first.

But that's just me!

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Peter Johnston

I heard that there is also a $97 membership fee is that correct? Makes it pricey.

James Schramko

It seems a little pricey.

If you can't afford it you could buy some multi IP hosting at www.seohosting.com and a dozen domains at www.namecheap.com and do this yourself.

Then you install wordpress blogs with fantastico - (2 minutes each).

You can then FTP your favorite WP plugins and themes in one go (assemble them on your hard drive).

If you are advanced then you can have your fantastico configure your blog from scratch the way you like.

The plugins will get you the content if you use caffientated content or similar and you can have an RSS feeder to add ongoing content.

Change permalinks and add a social bookmarking plugin.

If you buy something like Linkvarna or firepow to leverage a little more with a network to post into you will get the same effect...

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Peter Johnston

What I laugh at is, Alex Goad berates the hell out of "gurus"in the sales letter and then JV's with all of them and anyone else who wants to promote it.
It's kinda like firepow but you can create a blog in 5 minutes and has software to create one way links, I have to say it looks good but will only be a matter of time before the almighty G susses it out but by that time your 60 day money back option will be over!

June Campbell

I'm wondering about the 90 day refund guarantee, no questions asked. Does anyone have experience with Alex Goad when it comes to honoring these requests? It would be impossible to enforce this policy, given that Goad apparently lives in Cambodia (accordiing to Linkedin). If he has a reputation for being honorable in this regard, there would be little to lose.

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gcintermed

I agree with THE NIGHTOWL. This kind of product/pitch is the epitome of the worst of internet marketing...

First, target a group (frustrated newbies) who are desperate and not very savvy. Offer them a quick fix, instant solution requiring little knowledge, skill or work. Build it around a secret or new "scheme" that seems kinda murky and mysterious to the newbie. Paint the picture of vast riches to come. Finally add in some manufactured social proof (JV testimonials) and artificial scarcity. Put it all together with a high initial "investment" and a forced continuity program, and you've got the makings of a million dollar launch!

I'll be skipping this one.

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You'll get a step-by-step training which is the 60 days challenge. You will be given specific tasks to do for each day. Another component of GC is 90 days coaching.

About comparing GC to firepow, it's basically the same because Alex Goad has now partnered with firepow creator, Andrew Hansen.

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stormer

I get a sense of 'deja vu' about this (seem to have seen all the elements of this sales pitch before). Makes me wonder mmm...

The $997 up front had me wondering if it was worth it - so I came here to Warrior Forum. From the sales letter I didn't see anything about a monthly fee... Yes, it's right there after you go to the order page!! But it's only $97 a month, hardly worth considering when we are all "making $500 a DAY".

Really, is this guy for real?

Thank you Warriors for putting me straight on this as for a moment I was wobbling.

Cheers!

trader197

I agree with GlenH about the "get Google" type of promotions. To me. this is exactly the wrong mindset, and immediately casts doubt on the credibility of the promoter.

DonDavis

More of the same 'ole same 'ole..... push button riches.

Great post Night Owl.

GlenH

I'm not picking on Alex' s product here, but I'm making reference to all similar products.

Why would anyone put their whole business - their websites, their traffic generation, their blogs, their hosting. Everything...... into someone else hands to control.

Not me!

I will always want total control of the destiny of my business.

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grahamg4

Very good reading.

My take is simple, bandwagon. Seems upfront fee follwed by monthly fee is the current trend. When I see a monthly fee associated with the upfront fee, I close the window or tab. Next will come a high priced monthly print version.

Why would any intelligent person agree to pay a recurring monthly fee before knowing the value of the content. Is it good or just recyled crap. Then comes the ultimate unknown, how easy is it to cancel?

I never read the testimonials anymore. I view testimonials as a backlink / advertising source for the writer. Some may not even be real. There is a lot of fluff crap out there with some well known names providing an endorsement and that just makes me wonder. Reminds me of politics actually. I'm a nobody but, I will not attach my name to what I feel is crap.

Bottom line, my opinion anyway, never hand over billing information until you have sampled the goods. With print publications you buy an issue then decide on the subscription. The price is also minimal < $20 / annually for most. So not a big concern.

Al

Abdul Aziz

Using Wordpress Direct as part of the 30 Day Challenge I got a blog indexed and ranked on the first page of Google in about three days. I didn't even know what I was doing. Honestly. I'm brand new. For full disclosure, I used quite a bit of social bookmarking and Web 2.0 properties as well (as taught in the 30 Day Challenge). But Wordpress direct sure made things easier.

And while Wordpress Direct is cool, and it might have things Google Conquest doesn't, overall, it doesn't seem to offer as many benefits as Google Conquest. So while Google Conquest is expensive, I'm sure you can more than make your money back if you try.

And I believe Alex offered a 90 day money back guarantee. I think it would be a worthwhile investment if someone had the money. If you don't like it, get a refund.

It's good to diversify your Internet business and not become dependent on one way of making money. However, this seems like an effective model for those willing to give it a chance.

Sitechamp

Well, I'm one of the "newbies" that decided to give this a try. I purchased it two days ago. Payment was processed.

I have not been able to login to the system with the info that they sent me (system says my account is not active and asks for payment).

I have sent numerous emails to the support address that was provided without reply and the support phone number on my receipt simply rings unanswered.

Thank god there is such a thing as chargebacks otherwise I'd be at a loss on what to do.

Jane

autumn78

Someone here asked if anyone has had experience with Alex honoring refund requests. I purchased Google Payload several months ago and emailed him asking for a refund. He never responded to my email.

Abdul Aziz

If it was a Clickbank product they give direct refunds. If you have this problem in the future, try that.

jaihyppo

Here's my thought on this, for him to charge a membership fee of $97 per month is absolutely bogus. Some of you make a good point by saying that we don't really know the effectiveness of such program and already he is asking us to pay $97.

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ConcordeWarrior

Looks like he hasn't got his desired number of buyers/subscribers yet. He is still sending emails that his GoogleConquest thing's still open.

I am out. I have not even considered it due to the asking price. I found his Players With Money program was a total disappointment.

2bwealthy

This has been out out a week now, how is it going for those who purchased it?

Li Weng

Be careful with any newbie program with an ongoing monthly fee.
Do your research first.

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huggybear_dk

I'll be skipping this one too, in fact I unsubscribed from his list months ago ( and every other "guru" ). All Alex Goad does is put together a polished, slick looking product full of general information, no action plan, aims it at desperate newbies and rakes in the cash. Hat's off to him, I'm sure he makes money but he doesn't give a monkeys about you.

His previous products have the same sales letter crap, evil bloodsucking gurus blah blah, secret societies, secret methods. It's all a load of rubbish.

The sooner you stop buying this sort of rubbish the better off you'll be.

D