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Unread 10th December 2010, 11:38 AM   #151
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Today I checked the adsense account I've set up for this MPP, and with 100 sites distributed on 2 domains I banked $43 in a little less than a month.

I probably wont delete them and give them more time on the net, and perhaps if I'm in the mood I'll give them some link juice...

Anyway the system will drip some coins if you play smart, but my guess is that any program, system, software are just a small part of the equation, your brain still get the bigger part.
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Neodarth, are you using the mass deploy or you built all those sites by hand?

Also, you mentioend adsense but not clickbank or amazon. Which theme are you using. I purchased the Talian theme and it's pretty cool. It automatically pulls in all these clickbank and adsense adverts!
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I just noticed that you are from Chile. Hola che!
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I tried for 3.5 weeks to make this product work for me. My support tickets were ignored or erased with no action. I tried to make it work but this is not a product for a newbie or even someone with a little knowledge.

I followed all the recommendations, bought most of the upgrades. Finally at my wits end I contacted one of the recommended support people. It would have cost me another 100 dollars to make this product work. I do not despise his fee but I do not see why I would have to pay 100 dollars more to get this to work.

There is the possibility of great potential with the product but with the customer service as it is and the take down of the forum because it was bogging down their server - it was too much to handle. My patience ran out I finally put in for a refund.

Just as a thought for any who might be considering buying this product, be very careful. I do not know what I could have done differently.
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I'm going to give it another week. The good point is that I did create 150 sites in about 7 minutes. How long would it take you to do it by hand?
Manually...by hand....too damn long, lol

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The pain here is that they are not auto-posting but maybe that can be fixed by using a plugin such as WpRobot or Tweet Bomb (I don't own any of them).
Them not auto posting is an issue for sure. Yes, getting the sites "built" in mass amount si great but if you then have to go behind and either add plugins to them individually and then rely on those plugins to pull quality content...well thats another issue all together. I will give it to you though...building that many sites that quickly is pretty impressive.

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The Mass Deploy plugin will "deploy" all the plugins in your "template" site....
So I assume this means it is essentially setting you up to multi clone the template...is that right? Or are you saying that it ONLY deplys to the template site but then when that template is used the following sites that are built with the template arent working properly...I think I am a bit confused on this one?

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but my guess is that any program, system, software are just a small part of the equation, your brain still get the bigger part.
So true!

No matter how good the system is (or isn't) the individual behind it still needs to have a good plan and be able to impliment it properly.
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Neodarth, are you using the mass deploy or you built all those sites by hand?

Also, you mentioend adsense but not clickbank or amazon. Which theme are you using. I purchased the Talian theme and it's pretty cool. It automatically pulls in all these clickbank and adsense adverts!
Yes I created the sites using the mass deploy I've set them up and drop them.

no clickbank or amazon commissions (a couple of clicks though).

The theme is the good 'ol twenty ten 1.1
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So true!

No matter how good the system is (or isn't) the individual behind it still needs to have a good plan and be able to impliment it properly.
Exactly, take two people and give them a chocolate cake receipt, give them the exact same ingredients and guide them on each step of the cooking process, the result... the two chocolate cakes will not taste the same.

Human factor is one variable that many people overlook...
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The pain here is that they are not auto-posting but maybe that can be fixed by using a plugin such as WpRobot or Tweet Bomb (I don't own any of them).
Actually there is an auto-posting with MPP that works with amazon, articlebase and youtube and it can be loaded with the mass deploy plugin (you can loaded with the mass deploy).
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Manually...by hand....too damn long, lol
Them not auto posting is an issue for sure. Yes, getting the sites "built" in mass amount si great but if you then have to go behind and either add plugins to them individually...
You don't have to install and configure the plugins for each site. You do it once in your "master" template and all the auto-created sites will be a copy of the "master". And by the way, any of your sites can the "master" when using the mass deploy feature.

I didn't mention that all these sites are sub-domains of your main domain. Optionally you can have them be sub-folders as well. From the little research that I did on sub-domains vs sub-folders, it appears to me that sub-folders is the way to go. Apparently search engines treat sub-folders as part of the whole site, so any ranking in the subfolder benefits the main site as well as possible the other sub-folders. On the other hand, sub-domains are treated as a totally separate site and each one needs to rank on its own.
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Actually there is an auto-posting with MPP that works with amazon, articlebase and youtube and it can be loaded with the mass deploy plugin (you can loaded with the mass deploy).
Of course I'm usingthe auto-posting that came with MPP. But it's only working in the root domain and not in any of the sub-domains....
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to me i just love the fact the initial payment for the main part of the program costs $47 but the upsell costs $197 (4x more) and based on the fact that the entire point of purchasing the product is to have everything automated than you are really left with no choice but to buy the upsell ... if you don't than the product is virtually worthless

the nicest touch though was bill removing the forum ... now that was a real class deal ... a strain on the servers or maybe it was that there were no positive comments being posted

they actually banned me from posting comments like 2 days after i bought the program

i'm just so happy i got a refund ... mpp might be the worst launch ever in internet marketing history
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I bought this product 2 days ago - and now having read this entire thread I feel like a "lamb led to the slaughter".

I still want to give this system a trial as it does really appeal to me - I have long wanted to be able to set up Multi Blogs like this. However, I didn't understand why there was no Forum at the Forum URL, just a set of seemingly sound training videos.

My main stumbling block is that having paid for the main program and the upsell "Mass Deploy" I can't find out how to access the Plug In Downloads - can anyone tell me where they are? I have submitted a Support Ticket asking this but it appears that I may not get a reply (judging from the experiences listed in here!).

I too decry the silly Sales Scarcity Pitch, and the lack of support (I slated CB Predator for similar reasons) but as this product "promises" to provide something I've wanted for a while I am reluctant to drop it without giving it a bash........
BUT without the Plug Ins I can't get any further down the road.

If anyone can help me out here I'd appreciate it - I can always reply to a PM with a copy of my Clickbank receipt in case anyone is concerned that I might be a freeloader!

I am disappointed that MPP has turned out this way, I had a good opinion of Bill McRea until I spent ages reading all this, but now I am concerned - I hate to see so much Hype mixed with a total lack of customer support. I have yet to test this myself so I won't give up yet (I may get a quick and helpful reply to my support ticket) but I didn't feel that Jason Parker added anything worthwhile to the discussion in the posts that I saw earlier this evening....... it's taken me ages to go through all this!!!

Ah Well, I'll work on remaining positive until forced to change my views!!
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My main stumbling block is that having paid for the main program and the upsell "Mass Deploy" I can't find out how to access the Plug In Downloads - can anyone tell me where they are? I have submitted a Support Ticket asking this but it appears that I may not get a reply (judging from the experiences listed in here!).
The download links are the second and third links on the page. They are right under
Bookmark this web page so you can come back to it

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Hmmm, B. Mc. has been long absent from this thread.

The deal sounded suspiciously too good to be true.

Why he want to sell it if makes so much money?

Altruism? Yeah, right.

btw, while I'm here, I have a few Geese left that lay Golden Eggs - only
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The download links are the second and third links on the page. They are right under
Bookmark this web page so you can come back to it

Du-u-u-u-u-u-h........... sorry, I had bookmarked the "Forum" page over the top of the correct Home Page thinking that was the main training page.

When I couldn't see what you described I certainly had one of those "Oh-you-silly-sod!" moments!

Got them now and have a couple of hours to try them out (once I've sorted out another site that I have just found Hacked by some tosser from Kurdistan (or maybe anywhere!!).

Come On Bill - Give Us Some Reassurance!!!

Thanks for your help, it's often the little slips that can bring whole armies to their knees!

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UPDATE:

I got all the sites in the cluster to auto-post. I had to take the drastic approach of wiping out EVERYTHING and start from scratch. But hey! It works.

I also edited the upgrade.php file so that the default hello world post is not created. Same thing for that default comment.

Does anybody here have the unencrypted version of the MD plugin? I could sure use having the source code in order to apply some nice tweaks..
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This is a bit disconcerting......

My "main" domain in the cluster went from being #8 in Google to 96. That was yesterday. Today it's nowhere to be found. On Altavista I went from #1 to #41. Oddly enough I'm still #1 in Yahoo. I used to be #4 on MN Live and now I'm 0!

Now I don't know if this is part of the process or if Google is pissed off at the fact that I've created all these subdomains....

My next step is to set up an experiment. I read somewhere that sub-folders are more beneficial to the cluster because the ranking of each site (sub-folder) contributes to the ranking of the whole site.

I'm going to rebuild the cluster but this time with sub-folders instead of sub-domains.

Am I being impatient? The cluster is only about a week old, even though the domain is close to 9 months old...
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About the $197 upsell......

It's lacking a few features and is not flexible enough. After giving it some thought, I've decided that I'm probably better off returning it and instead using a scripting tool such as ubot. It will cost me the same but at least I'll be able to set things up EXACTLY the way I want them.
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I have a massive passive plugin wordpress.

Does this thing related to spamming?

I just tried to freehosting then turns out they terminate my account..

Too bad isn't it?
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I bought this product 2 days ago - and now having read this entire thread I feel like a "lamb led to the slaughter".

I still want to give this system a trial as it does really appeal to me - I have long wanted to be able to set up Multi Blogs like this. However, I didn't understand why there was no Forum at the Forum URL, just a set of seemingly sound training videos.

My main stumbling block is that having paid for the main program and the upsell "Mass Deploy" I can't find out how to access the Plug In Downloads - can anyone tell me where they are? I have submitted a Support Ticket asking this but it appears that I may not get a reply (judging from the experiences listed in here!).

I too decry the silly Sales Scarcity Pitch, and the lack of support (I slated CB Predator for similar reasons) but as this product "promises" to provide something I've wanted for a while I am reluctant to drop it without giving it a bash........
BUT without the Plug Ins I can't get any further down the road.

If anyone can help me out here I'd appreciate it - I can always reply to a PM with a copy of my Clickbank receipt in case anyone is concerned that I might be a freeloader!

I am disappointed that MPP has turned out this way, I had a good opinion of Bill McRea until I spent ages reading all this, but now I am concerned - I hate to see so much Hype mixed with a total lack of customer support. I have yet to test this myself so I won't give up yet (I may get a quick and helpful reply to my support ticket) but I didn't feel that Jason Parker added anything worthwhile to the discussion in the posts that I saw earlier this evening....... it's taken me ages to go through all this!!!

Ah Well, I'll work on remaining positive until forced to change my views!!
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Guess that massive passive plugin it's just a hype or bunch of lies.

Just read the post of yossic.

Anyway, charge to experience. Lol
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After many hours, I am still trying to find the plug-in wp-mpp. In the videos it appears to be in a file on the computer, not in mine. I am trying to understand the installation instructions from mcrea. I'm confused. I've read directions, watched videos. How do I get it into my computer? And Where I can get to it and use it?
Getting my hands on the plug-in itself is my problem. Help got me an ambiguous answer, I download the package again. Still lost. Any help will be appreciated.
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Just show him the proof of purchase...

Me I just purchase it and download it.

I don't say this plug-in is useless but once google figure's out,
may be they will suspend your account.

Anyway, need also some good feed back or what else can you say
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After many hours, I am still trying to find the plug-in wp-mpp. In the videos it appears to be in a file on the computer, not in mine. I am trying to understand the installation instructions from mcrea. I'm confused. I've read directions, watched videos. How do I get it into my computer? And Where I can get to it and use it?
Getting my hands on the plug-in itself is my problem. Help got me an ambiguous answer, I download the package again. Still lost. Any help will be appreciated.
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You need to download the plugin. It's on the members page. See where it says Step 1 - Download Software? It's the first download right under it. The one that reads "Massive Passive Software". There's a blue sphere with a white arrow in it. Click on that to download the zip file. Save that zip file on your PC.

Next, go into the admin site of your WP blog and install it.
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By the way, this multi-site thing is a feature of WP 3.0. I found some online instructions on how to enable multisite. I then found a blog templating plugin that can be used when creating the multiple sites. Note that the above applies only to multi sites and not to mass creating them.

What I was able to replicate is what Massive Passive Software does. It was a bit of a pin and if you ask me, I'll keep the plugin.

As far as the $197 upsell, I will be returning it soon and insted will do whast it's supposed to do, and even better, with ubot. At some point I will be rolling up my sleves and will probably write my own plugin but for the time being ubot will do the trick.
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Well my experience so far is mixed, and as yet inconclusive.

I have lost my way a few times in the process but do finally have the mass deploy installed with MPP and I am working my way slowly through the CSV file for my first multi sub domain site.

It does take a whiile when you are new to it. I had to start my template building all over again because I hadn't installed the Mass Deploy element along with MPP.

I've also already spent about 8 hours (some time wasted by not being familiar with csv as opposed to excel 2000, so I lost a lot of work and had to repeat a stack of it) just getting to the first few sub domain inputs. Even the Domain Name and Domain Title columns take a while as one has no spaces but the other does (maybe I should know how to do this with a macro or something?).

I listened in to Bill's Webinar on using Keyword Dissection with MPP and it reassured me somewhat that there can be mileage in this program.

I'm struggling a bit with sorting out a template I can be happy with for these multi blogs but am currently working on Talian 5 as recommended by Bill. I don't like the very narrow space left for the Article because of the Google ads in the main text box, but I don't know how to change that.

I have Socrates available but haven't yet been able to get that to work for me so I'm trying Talian because then at least Bill's instructions are relevant.
(I did get a reply from Support to my query about finding the Plug In - same detail as given me by Yossic).

I have arranged to have most of tomorrow off work so (unless my daughter suddenly goes into labour and I'm baby-sittiing my "almost 3 year-old" grandson) I intend to finish off my template adjustments and give a multi subdomain site a real bash.

It looks as though I can try 25 to start with and then add another pile if those work out and look satisfactory. I've got about 90 in hand but don't want to run before I can walk steadily!!

Anyone else got anything to add that might help??

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Hi John

Hope everything goes well with your daughter's labour and baby sitting the grandson. I'd be curious to see how you go with mass deployment. Yes, agree, walk first before run. 25 sounds like a good start!

Hi Yossic

Could you keep us posted on how you can use massive passive without the mass deploy. Its not very affordable! If you are happy with the ubot, could you kindly share your experience with us? Good luck with the mass deployment!

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OK gang, here is my latest report on this product:

I purchased MPP and the Mass Deploy upsell. What the MPP plugin does is:

1) Enable Multi Site in WP
2) Add a campaign feature that can be used for Amazon, YouTube, Ezines and ArtcleBase. You can specify the category for each campaign, which is nice to have. YouTube stuff can go in the Videos category, Amazon items can go in the Books and Accessories, category, etc.

Mind you that you can set for each site more than one campaign and each campaign can be on its own schedule. If you ask me, it's worth the $47 to not have to go through the manual steps of editing PHP files in oder to enable WP's multi site feature. Besides, you get the three different campaigns on top of that. I ended up returning the product but not for the reasons that you may think. I'll tell you at the end of this post. Again, I do think that what you get for the $47 is definitely worth it.

Now comes the Mass Deploy upsell. This one sounds cool! You set up a site exactly the way you want it, with plugins and all, and use it as a template to create hundreds of subdomain (or subfolder) based sites. This one is a bit more expensive at $197 but you would think that it's definitely worth it because of the enormous amount of time that it would save you.

Unfortunately MD (Mass Deploy) is not fully developed. It should have been taken a few notches higher. Here are the shortcomings:

1) You can specify only one campaign. It may include posts from Amazon, YouTube and articles but it's still one campaign per site.

2) You cannot assign different categories to each post type for each site. In other words, you might as well have no categories at all.

3) You are stuck with the tag line that reads "Just another XXXXXX Site". In order to change it you need to edit each site by hand.

4) Each site will have that stupid "Hello World" post. The plugin should have killed that default post as well as the default comment that goes with it.

5) It only creates five sites at a time. In order to create the next 5 sites you need to click on a button. So if you are creating 150 sites, you have to click that blasted button 30 times.

6) There is no way to specify the contents of the "About" page. Every site needs an About page! You can create an About page in your "template" site but the contents will be the same across all your sites.

As you can tell, I am not that impressed with the $197 upsell. I figured that I can do a lot better by either writing my own or for the sake of expediency use a macro tool such as ubot.

What really ticked me off is that it appears that the product is dead! No news on updates. No news on upcoming features. Nothing! That is why I returned both products. I'm also ticked off major time about the false statements in the sales letter.

I still like the idea of multi sites for the plain and simple reason that you can have domain names that would otherwise not be available. For example, if you wanted to have a learnguitar domain name you now can by creating a subdomain such as learnguitar.mydomain.com.

So what's next for me? Well, I'll be enabling the multi site feature by hand and creating all the sites with ubot (or a better tool if I can find one). As far as campaigns go, I figured that I can't go wrong with a product such as WP Robot.
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Now I am even starting to question if this whole multi-site thing is even worth it. I set up two test multisites. Both are related to guitar. The first domain name is a guitar related keyword and has about 150 subdomains. The second domain name has nothing to do with guitars. I set up the exact same subdomains on this one as on the first domain.

I get some traffic coming into the first one, but then again, I was getting some traffic in there before I converted it to a multi-site.

The second domain is about 2 weeks old and so far I've gotten close to no traffic.

On the first domain I'm on and off the first page of google (for the keyword matching it's name). One of the subdomains on the new site has the same name as the main domain of the first site. So far no ranking at all.

So what I'll do next is try to use two plugins to try and generate backlinks and traffic. I'll try using Web Traffic Genius and WP Syndicator on both sites.

Does anybody have any experience with these plugins?
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So what I'll do next is try to use two plugins to try and generate backlinks and traffic. I'll try using Web Traffic Genius and WP Syndicator on both sites.

Does anybody have any experience with these plugins?
I use rss submit software, it's manual but it is much less expensive though, I can control which directories the feeds are submitted to..

WTG will make an rss feed from any WP post or page and submit it to the directories on auto pilot..this has to be a good tool for anyone.

As I understand it when you buy you get a stand alone version included for static sites. Most new IM's don't realise the power of rss for both outbound and inbound information..

If you don't have the spare cash right now here is a free RSS submitter

There will be a warrior with experience of wp syndicator for sure..

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I bought the product and was very dissapointed. I feel i have learned a little bit though about what value there is in doing the work to build a real valuable site as an asset to my business rather than spammy autoblogs. The customer service was terrible. The forum link they gave me in my sign up email now goes to an error page from bluehost. (Although he promotes hostgator) The whole thing stinks. Dont waste your time and money. Build real sites and learn the seo and link building and get real traffic and sales. I'm refunding.
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Systems like this WILL work but for how long? That's one important question. Read carefully what the seller tells you about his or her success using it. Ask questions prior to purchase. Consider things like:
  1. how long did it take you to see results from this system?
  2. how much work was involved, and is it truly automatic?
  3. what products were you promoting to test the system?
  4. how many different types of products/services did you test on the system?
  5. was it equally effective in all?
  6. are you still seeing results from your initial setups?
  7. are those results the same, less or better?
  8. how long have you been running those offers on this system?
  9. what other costs can I expect to incur to make your system work?
  10. is your product complete, providing everything you need other than such things as hosting and domain purchases?
These are just some of the questions to consider when looking at a system like this one, or any other for that matter.

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Sales graphics tell you nothing, so you can pretty much ignore them. They do not reveal the products or the system being used. For all you know they could be receiving money from multiple sources outside the system. Plus, sales graphics can be doctored. (Even though it's illegal for them to do so, some people don't care as long as it makes them sales.)

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Thanx Sylvia,
I truly don't believe everything I read, ESPECIALLY online(!!), but for me there's a limit to how much I can investigate, not having all THAT much experience in the first place.

However, most of those questions you posed simply go over my head, and are beyond my capacity to persue.
I do see what folx have to see in forums though.

And I never trusted pay graphics from the start! I can imagine so many ways of faking such info, and with all the 'money' being made by these gurus, I wonder if there's really that much money even available in the world!
Not for every Tom Dick and Harry the Internet Marketing guru to be getting so much anyway.

All I can do is follow forums that have good information, look b4 I leap and be 'refund vigilante' AFTER the leap!
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In my honest opinion...not really worth the effort. I tried it and there are easier things to do. My time is limited so I have to keep a short leash on what's being done and what I am getting accomplished..
if that makes any sense..it did in my head
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Is this thing still around and being sold?

I bought it but the link to the forum used doesn't work any more for several weeks now. Contacted support via a ticket but after many days the response didn't answer the question of make any sense at all.

If anyone can post or pm me a link to a working forum I would appreciate it (i hope this request doesn't break any rules of this forum).
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The nice thing about massive passive profits if you have the wordpress talian adsense theme.
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Thanx Sylvia,
I truly don't believe everything I read, ESPECIALLY online(!!), but for me there's a limit to how much I can investigate, not having all THAT much experience in the first place.

However, most of those questions you posed simply go over my head, and are beyond my capacity to persue.
I do see what folx have to see in forums though....
It's true, many newbies won't understand, but some will. Best to give a good list and let people use what they do know to protect themselves. Checking with forums like WF and especially review sites, like this one, is certainly one of the top ways to check out a product before buying. Who better to give you insight than people who have experienced buying and using the product, and seeking support.

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Is this thing still around and being sold?

I bought it but the link to the forum used doesn't work any more for several weeks now. Contacted support via a ticket but after many days the response didn't answer the question of make any sense at all.

If anyone can post or pm me a link to a working forum I would appreciate it (i hope this request doesn't break any rules of this forum).
From what others have posted here, it sounds like the guy simply shut down his forum because he didn't like what was being posted. It's not likely he'll start another one, considering what happened the first time. So it looks like you're on your own. So glad I got a refund!

Good luck!

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This thing will get your Adsense account banned for sure! If I were to try it, I would leave my Adsense account out. Too valuable to lose it. Does look pretty cool if you could get it working as advertised. The big downside is that these scraper type programs really do not add any value to the web which is bad for all in the end. -Z
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Sad thing is - even if he spoiled his reputation in here, just a hand full of people are reading this, and there are thousands of others who will buy this product believing the sales copy.... so it doesn't make any difference whether or not his claims about 200 copies, 68 traffic streams or whatever are true or not.
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Sad thing is - even if he spoiled his reputation in here, just a hand full of people are reading this, and there are thousands of others who will buy this product believing the sales copy.... so it doesn't make any difference whether or not his claims about 200 copies, 68 traffic streams or whatever are true or not.
Well, over 15,000 people have read this thread to date, so it's not all going to waste.

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Now I am even starting to question if this whole multi-site thing is even worth it. I set up two test multisites. Both are related to guitar. The first domain name is a guitar related keyword and has about 150 subdomains. The second domain name has nothing to do with guitars. I set up the exact same subdomains on this one as on the first domain.

I get some traffic coming into the first one, but then again, I was getting some traffic in there before I converted it to a multi-site.

The second domain is about 2 weeks old and so far I've gotten close to no traffic.

On the first domain I'm on and off the first page of google (for the keyword matching it's name). One of the subdomains on the new site has the same name as the main domain of the first site. So far no ranking at all.

So what I'll do next is try to use two plugins to try and generate backlinks and traffic. I'll try using Web Traffic Genius and WP Syndicator on both sites.

Does anybody have any experience with these plugins?
Hi Yossic

Just a few quick pointers that may be helpful.

1. Build your sites BEFORE you activate the Web Traffic Genius plugin, because there is a conflict that will stop blog creation working correctly. You could deactivate, build then activate again - but - I think you would need to reconfigure WTG each time you deactivate it. WTG is not really a multisite thing as yet- they may upgrade it in the future.

2. I've been using WP Syndicator for a little less than a year. It works really well although I have not been able to get some of the bookmarking/syndication sites to work properly i.e. about 10%. It is a set and forget deal - meaning you can sign up to the syndication sites and add your details to the plugin- takes about 1 hour using Roboform - or if you wanted free - Clipboard Magic would speed up the process as well. Best to then do a post ( or choose an existing one), syndicate it and visit the sites to iron out any bugs at that point eg - sometimes the first post has to be manual, sometimes the profile has to be filled in to a certain extent prior to posting etc- all worth getting right at the beginning.
Be sure to set the auto-syndication option.

3. This is just for those who know what they are doing with automation- I use IMacros quite effectively to do any site customisation that i want e.g deleting hello dolly post and comments, removing blogroll links.

4. Because it is best to only use these on the root blog - a little trick to promoting the sub blogs is to use them as extrafeeds in the config of WTG.

And my quick review of the product - there are certainly some better ways - but with a bit of tweaking this thing works quite well.

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I Agree 100% with RSBerg

How the hell can 3000! be anywhere near 200! I mean it just cant! not even if you squint your eyes up real tight!!!

Scarcity is one thing but that's just out 'N' out Bollocks in my humble newbies opinion

Not bad for one of my first post here on W/F

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Hi I have had this product for a few weeks now and I was all set to make a bunch of autoblogs today for a couple of my bigger domains. I think I still will, but not nearly so many as I was planning to :-) I read all these posts with great interest. Here's my experience with this product (just the simple cheap version, no upsells) being fairly new to IM.

I bought this purely to get content up on my sites starting from scratch so that I had something to promote on twitter etc, while I searched for CPA offers and other unique content that Id actually write myself.

If I was busy working on other sites I thought it would be great to have things trickle auto posting, because search engines like sites that are regularly updated - more so than not, so far as I understand.

The support is the worst I have ever experienced. Ive never felt so blown off and disrespected and its so frustrating when you are super keen to get going.

A couple of weeks in after being ignored many times, I randomly got a reply from one support guy who gave me a phone number for another support guy - who actually answered it after Id emailed first *SHOCK!! * Horror!*

Im tempted to post the number here LOL PM me if you want to call them and give em hell given what they have put you all through!!!

But he wasnt very helpful, he just told me to reinstall it which I did and Id totally done everything right and the same thing happened LOL then next time I called I got a snooty email telling me I coudlnt just call him LOL... but they did eventually give me a super simple fix for this - and no idea why they didnt just put this in the instructions (I was installing on addon domains)

The amazon tools (where you can choose to add in a big image, med image, small one, description, etc) have lots of things that don't even work like rating, reviews etc. Id love to add user reviews to my posts... that I dont have to do manually!! (and wont do manually!)

When I contacted the forum it took them days to reply after I had to remind them and then we had a few quick fire emails which resulted in the guy saying he had no idea what those buttons were for.... hello??!! Support??!!

Im happy with the traffic I am getting to my sites ( between 400-2000 uniques a month) since I literally just set these up and haven't promoted them at all yet - Im just about to. Thats just using MPP on the main domain with no subdomains.

So for me it works. Ive not made a penny from any of the CPA offers, Clickbank offers, or amazon products that are ON my sites yet, but Im hoping that once I integrate all this with 'proper' content, and actually promote them, then things may get better.

Also Dan Brock said in an email the other day, something like 'use autoblogs sparingly to just get a trickle of traffic for whatever keywords you want and the most important thing is to link every single autoblog back to your main domain'. So for that reason - backlinks and traffic - I think its not a bad plan.

Personally, Id rather have a few blogs full of awesome content that are great for a user to interact with and return to - that will make me good money - than 10,000 generic crappy ones, that make me minimal money!

Anyway hope this has helped someone. Best wishes Clare :-)
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Hi this window was still open so I figured Id post this useful article I just found:

Multiple Domains vs Subdomains vs Folders in SEO | Web SEO Analytics

More particularly, this piece of info was interesting:

So the question is what happens when you use subdomains (ex: blog.example.com)? The SEO community has suggested several theories in the past on this topic. Experiments showed that in some cases, when the main domain has a relatively small amount of subdomains, part of the authority passes to the subdomain. According to other theories, the subdomains are handled like different domains and thus none of those metrics pass to them.
WebSEOAnalytics.com team has done extensive analysis in the past on the Data that we collect from the reports of our SEO tools. Based on those data there are strong indications that a part of Authority and Trust passes to the subdomains only when the domain has a small number of subdomains and when the link structure of the main website passes enough link juice to them. An additional factor can be whether the subdomain keeps the same website and link structure as the main website. On the contrary, when the number of subdomains is too great (ex: blogspot.com) and when there are no links pointing to them from the main domain, then no authority or trust is inherited.


Hope this is of interest and helpful to some of you. Best wishes, Clare :-)
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Interesting post Clare...

IMO folders are better..ex ( yourdomain. com/videos) just think this a stronger structure for SEO and credibility to your TLD...

Also think webmasters don't take full advantage of things like video site maps etc..it all helps...

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Personally, Id rather have a few blogs full of awesome content that are great for a user to interact with and return to - that will make me good money - than 10,000 generic crappy ones, that make me minimal money!
^ Better strategy for long term business...

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Well not to throw spoils to the masses but "Auto Generated Content" is in TOTAL violation of Google Adsense TOS.

Unoriginal Content

Did you know that sites using software to generate automated information or otherwise unoriginal content is a serious violation of our policies? Read our webmaster quality guidelines, and if you find violating sites within our network, feel free to report them to us.



Not only are you about to be crushed in Serps over duplicate content, many are about to lose their adsense accounts as well, Just remember that when you put all that time and effort into them and then it is taken away without warning.

The perfect Auto blogger would pull content, spin it, rewrite the title, add an image complete with caption, description etc... and then post it...

Jump ship... When Gurus dump their wares they have already sucked the life out of it and then pawn it off on the unsuspecting all the while knowing it is obsolete.
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Well, with all the new Google changes and issues being discussed about sites without original content, auto-blogs and the like, I've decided not to go this route at all. Which is too bad, because after returning the Massive Passive Profits, I purchased another system by Mike Johnson... Auto Blog System, which appeared to be a superior product with better support. Well, the support is debatable. I don't know what it is about getting really good support these days.

Anyway, no sour grapes here. Just to say that what I did get from Mike's system is some good training that I can use in other types of sites. I set up one site with his system, which included some cool plugins and such, but it's not going to be an auto blog after all.

As far as the MPP program goes, I'm actually shocked that people are putting so much work into trying to make it work. Nothing should be THAT difficult or time-consuming especially when he provides you with the install program with the necessary add-ons.

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Interesting post Clare...

IMO folders are better..ex ( yourdomain. com/videos) just think this a stronger structure for SEO and credibility to your TLD...

Also think webmasters don't take full advantage of things like video site maps etc..it all helps...

^ Better strategy for long term business...

Gordon.
For SEO you want your site to be tightly themed.

If all your keywords are related, using sub directories would be the best option.

If you keywords are not related, creating sub domains would be a better option.

Sub domains are treated like entirely different domains. This can help each sub domain rank for a given topic but also means that you have to build traffic to them and rank them individually.
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I like to look at sales letters and launches to keep current and gain insight, but one thing really bugs me.... (I know it's common - but that doesn't make it right)

The sales letter (sight) states that they are only selling 199 of the product. But when you look at the clickbank afflilate page, they run a contest for affilates where 1st place is only for people who sell more than 300, 2nd place is only for people who sell 150, etc.

Seriously. I love marketing and all the tactics involved... but to blatantly lie about the number of products you will sell is illegal and immoral.

The hype and false claims hurts us all.

NOTE: I did not purchase, so I am not evaluating the product nor making any claim that it's good or bad. Just tired of people saying things that aren't true simply because they can hide behind a server.
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This "Network Admin" is driving me nuts. I have to keep going between the profile admin and network admin just to upload a plugin/theme etc. Please don't tell me to do it all in profile admin, because it doesn't work like that!!

Also, could anybody tell me where to get the Talian-adsense-clickbank-seo-05 theme or is that another thing to pay for? Unless there's a similar theme you could use instead?

PM me please, as it takes all day to find posts on this thread!

Thanks,

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p.s. The training video advises us to use a specific keyword tool, but apparently it's in beta phase and you can only get it by invitation? So how do you get it and more's the point, HOW MUCH IS THAT?
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This "Network Admin" is driving me nuts. I have to keep going between the profile admin and network admin just to upload a plugin/theme etc. Please don't tell me to do it all in profile admin, because it doesn't work like that!!

Also, could anybody tell me where to get the Talian-adsense-clickbank-seo-05 theme or is that another thing to pay for? Unless there's a similar theme you could use instead?

PM me please, as it takes all day to find posts on this thread!

Thanks,

Ray

p.s. The training video advises us to use a specific keyword tool, but apparently it's in beta phase and you can only get it by invitation? So how do you get it and more's the point, HOW MUCH IS THAT?
The Talian Adsense is wordpress theme that you need to buy, is not included and is for another developer.

Talian is a good theme, but I'm not so sure if this will work with MPP, because it comes with a "default" adsense ID and clickbank name (WTF is that??) that means is you miss one of your sites to change that ID with yours guess who gets the money for the clicks and CB commissions?

The keyword tool, you can use the Google keyword tool with results as goods as with any other paid tool.
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