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Old 11-16-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Massive Passive Profits

I've get an email from Bill McRea promoting his Massive Passive Profit product.

I know Bill from other products and they are OK (not huge ground breaking) but at least deliver.

As usual the sales letter is hyped up to attract the non educated lazy wealth seekers, it push the right mind buttons and promises a huge traffic increasing on your sites. As a traffic generation system I'm interest in review it (I'm still in the quest for the holy grial of free traffic generation software)

Anyway I'll check it out and will post my impressions. What I like so far its that the price is $47 and hasn't exit popups and is just one upsell of $197, and is managed by clickbank (easier to refund in case of emergency).
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I bought it, and checked out some videos. There seems to be a lot of moving parts to it. I tried logging into it later in the day and website is now gone! I can't even login. Kinda sucks when you just spent some good money and can't even see the product you bought.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:30 PM   #3
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I bought it, and checked out some videos. There seems to be a lot of moving parts to it. I tried logging into it later in the day and website is now gone! I can't even login. Kinda sucks when you just spent some good money and can't even see the product you bought.

That's a shame-please keep us updated-hopefully the site is down due to a temporary glitch.

It sounds like the software might be a cool tool, so I hope they can resolve it. I've got the video on their sales page playing now, and can't even pause it-I hate that, but if that makes more sales for them, I can't fault them for it. I'd do it too.
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I just bought it.... and I'm looking at a blank screen!!

After buying it, it sends you to a registration page,
where they want everything.. name, street address, phone number..
(you feel like you're being setup for some of those "personal coaching"
phone pitches!!)

Then you get all excited and hit the "Activate" button!!

.....which takes you to to a blank page that only says:

"Sorry, the license you have entered is not valid. Please buy the genuine license from OptimizePress"

The "OptimizePress" is a link to another page, for a totally different product.

Wow.. I feel warm and fuzzy all over... Looks like a rip off.
It's times like this that I REALLY love ClickBank's refund policy!!
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Any updates as to whether the page/software is working yet?
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Default Re: Massive Passive Profits

Update:

I finally have access to this Massive Passive Profits. I've read that they have some serious issues with the server.

What is all about?

Is a software or more like a plugin, that create a MU wordpress blog, and have the capability to create MU autoblogs fetching content from articlebase, eza, amazon and youtube videos for a given keyword (very similar to wp robot).

Is actually pretty easy to create blogs that way and with the Mass Deploy you can upload a CVS file with 100's of blogs to create (this is actually awesome).

However, it requires a little bit more than that to make it work, like a good theme (not included) and other plugins (not included) to help you rank better and get some traffic.

Yet again as autoblogs is a matter of numbers, the fact to build as many sites as you want in a matter of minutes make this MPP worthed.

The downside is that you'll probably need a dedicated server hosting that will certainly cut your profits. And you need a little bit more work in order to set the right sites, with the right theme, and the right monetization method, and keep an eye on them (if you set once and forget them... forget about make money too).
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:21 PM   #7
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What about traffic? You can create 500 auto blogs but without traffic there's no massive passive profit. What's the traffic sources in this?
Traffic comes mainly by SEO, and backlinking using some paid plugins.

But if you have some experience you can take one bit from here, another from there, and set a pretty decent income source... yet this is not explained in the 'training' in extensive.
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thanks to all of you for the reviews, this sounds like just another scam put out there for newbies, and I am so glad to be part of this forum and find out in no time what's it all about.... I wont fall for it and if you bought it ask for a refund and follow the true path to making money online, with true business mind and long term projects that deliver fruits for the long run..
thanks again
I get why this might not be somebodies cup of tea but I certainly wouldn't put it as a scam. Why the method of 100 blogs might not be what you consider as doable business model, there are plenty of people who make a nice living at it.

I think with a little work on a persons part and depending on if you can place off of these blogs under one install of MU or not, it might not be that big of a chore to get 100 blogs going and optimized. Just my two cents.

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I get why this might not be somebodies cup of tea but I certainly wouldn't put it as a scam. Why the method of 100 blogs might not be what you consider as doable business model, there are plenty of people who make a nice living at it.

I think with a little work on a persons part and depending on if you can place off of these blogs under one install of MU or not, it might not be that big of a chore to get 100 blogs going and optimized. Just my two cents.

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I used this MU wordpress blog system a while ago, yet it was still some time consuming creating each blog, but with the upgraded plugin you can upload a cvs file with all the information needed to create a blog and with the campaigns set up, ready to go.

The interesting part is if you can build 5 to 10 MU blogs a day with the basic program, with the cvs uploader you can build literally 100 a day. And as this is a numbers game.

You will need a better hosting plan than the hostgator baby croc though.

Now, personally this is not the model I wish to follow I'm an old fashion guy and still fond to the hard work long term business model.

Anyway I handle the license to my brother with some extra instructions and if my lazy bro can't bank at least 1k a month with this system before year's end I'll start to seriously doubt of his synapses process.
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Default I own it so let me tell you a bit about t

PROS
  • This thing is an autoblogging dream. You can build them in a spreadsheet, upload and walk away.
  • It will automatically setup unlimited subdomains (e.g. blog1.dumblogger.net, blog2.dumblogger.net, etc)
  • They accidentally provided the source code to all of the initial purchasers so you can easily prevent E.T from phoning home and telling his parents where and how you are using the plugin

CONS
  • It cannot create additional domains (only subdomains). So you have to create a separate Wordpress install if you want to do that.
  • They recommend that you use a dedicated server. More money.
  • To get traffic you need to install at least 2 other plugins (WP Syndicator and Web Traffic Genius Pro). They recommend a bunch, but you don't need them all. I use the two that I do, because I already know to use them.
  • One of the plugins they recommend is Blogpress SEO. Hey wait, isn't that a Wordpress Trojan? Either these gurus are to stoopid to know about it or they own it and want to secretly control the blogs of everyone who installs it.
  • They released an update which supposedly fixed a registration issue. When actually, it's an ioncube encoded version of the same software. I think I'll keep the source

I've already made some edits to help me do some cool stuff with my autoblogs and my themes.
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What is the bottom line price and how many upsells and downsells are needed to complete the purchase....
Here's a tip. Use the payment link at the top of the first page. It's for $200 or so ad gives you everything. The link at the bottom is for $50, but it's just for the tool to create the blogs manually.

That's nice, but you really want to be able to do it from a spreadsheet.
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Here watch me build 100 websites using my Massive Passive Software

This thing rocks... I make a little money on a lot of sites

Sorry about the server problem. Too much traffic on launch day. Everything is working fine now

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just emailed Bill about the Blogpress SEO recommendation in the training. he replied back saying "I will remove it"

so hey, problem solved.

thanks to @LosingMyHair for actually having a real review of the product t'was very helpful.

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There are two cool features that this thing has that may be worth to mention, that in my humble opinion the more I use the more I like.

the first is the use of the cvs file to load the blogs, is just simply too freaking easy to build a blog that way, you only ned to set up one blog as a template and the rest will be build using the same pattern (plugins, themes, pages includes)

The second is... wait... no... actually there is only one thing.

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Now... How do I use massive passive profits if I wish to stick to that short term business model?

Adding market samurai, bookmarking demon and some other sindication plugins.

find a niche, fetch a good list of keywords, get a domain, create your first blog, and then use your keyword list as subdomains of your autoblogs. The more the merrier. Bookmark, sindicate, index and forget.

Find another niche, and repeat. The time to invest on each site is about an hour taking on account the keyword research (about 20 minutes) the initial setup of your template blog takes you about 20 minutes with all the plugins, another 10 to fill the spreadsheet with your blogs data and 10 minutes to upload the 100 blogs.

If you put your head and heart on this task you can build easily 5 niche domains blogs with 100 subdomain blogs in a matter of 5 hours work. All fully loaded with adsense and clickbank hop ads and amazon products.

So theorically we are talking about 500 blogs a day 2.500 a week and 10000 blogs a month if each of them gives you just $0.1 a day you do the math.

The cost?
Hostgator dedicated server hosting $ 174 /month
Godaddy .com domain names $11.99 x 100 = $1199 / year
Market Samurai $ 149 /one time payment
Massive Passive Profit w/mass deploy $ 244
Total Investment $1766

10000 blogs at $0.1 day x 30 days $30000 / month

But... you know how numbers are... they paint you a dreamed scenario and sometimes they simply lie... but it will be awesome to get that passive income for 1 month work... if only this works that way right?
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Yes, it takes some work, but the work of building the blogs is gone. This leaves plenty of time to use Market Samauri, Google Insight, and SEO Elite.

I mean, yeah, I wish there were more data sources and more configurability... but hey, with the source I can always add more content sources.

This thing really works.

Also, IP diversity is a good thing. You don't want 10k blogs on the same ole IP addy. They actually mentioned some of that in one of the videos (buy very briefly). And the bottom line is IP addresses cost money. I personally plan to setup 50-100 blogs per IP.

Sure there are some cons, but I've never seen a way to build blogs so easily. The next version will not doubt be even richer. Don't play games. Buy it now. But yes, there are CONS to it... and everything else in this world.
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I guess what I mean to say is that if you're new to IM, purchasing it will be risky. You can learn as you go, but you'll be going nowhere fast.

If you are experienced (even intermediate experience), you will have no problem making your money back.
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It is an interesting concept, but it requires a serious investment, that currently I cannot afford.

I would like to test the system on a smaller scale by choosing a niche, selecting the leywords and building 10 or so subdomain blogs.

This would not require an Hostgator dedicated server and could provide some feedback on the profit potentials

I would be interested in your opinion on this approach

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Here watch me build 100 websites using my Massive Passive Software

This thing rocks... I make a little money on a lot of sites

Sorry about the server problem. Too much traffic on launch day. Everything is working fine now

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Yes, it takes some work, but the work of building the blogs is gone. This leaves plenty of time to use Market Samauri, Google Insight, and SEO Elite.

I mean, yeah, I wish there were more data sources and more configurability... but hey, with the source I can always add more content sources.

This thing really works.

Also, IP diversity is a good thing. You don't want 10k blogs on the same ole IP addy. They actually mentioned some of that in one of the videos (buy very briefly). And the bottom line is IP addresses cost money. I personally plan to setup 50-100 blogs per IP.

Sure there are some cons, but I've never seen a way to build blogs so easily. The next version will not doubt be even richer. Don't play games. Buy it now. But yes, there are CONS to it... and everything else in this world.
What about the normal autoblogging pitfalls, like the Duplicate Content Penalty? Will google slap the whole domain once it finds a common footprint with all of the autoblogs?
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What about the normal autoblogging pitfalls, like the Duplicate Content Penalty? Will google slap the whole domain once it finds a common footprint with all of the autoblogs?
Done right duplicate content isn't an issue. I have a number of autoblogs with good PR and rank quite well.

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Done right duplicate content isn't an issue. I have a number of autoblogs with good PR and rank quite well.

Garret

Done right? Have the authors of this product taken this into consideration and if so, how?

In the following video, they demonstrate how they build can 100 blogs in 5 minutes ...


If you look closely at the video, the blog is located at:
www.healthyfoodguidelines.com

The blog is broken down into subfolders such as
http://www.healthyfoodguidelines.com/healthyfoodtips
http://www.healthyfoodguidelines.com/healthyfoods/
http://www.healthyfoodguidelines.com/healthyfoodlist/


and so on.

The sales video states that the system syndicates onto other sites, but so far, google nor yahoo has noticed them. In fact, there are currently NO listings in google or yahoo for any of these blogs. Now since the healthyfoodguidelines.com domain was only registered yesterday (circa 11/18/2010), I can certainly understand why.

I would be curious after running this process how quickly the authors are able to bring in traffic and earnings from this newly created domain.
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hey everyone... I am sorry about the download issue and all. But everything is fine now. I hope you enjoyed the video on me building the sites. Here is another video of what the software is


There are always problems with product launched. I had no clue we would sell 5,000 copies of the software in 3 days. This put a huge strain on our system bringing our huge dedicated server down. I had to move everything to a cloud based server in the middle of the launch. What a mess....

This blogging platform flat our works like a dream. Today it is 9:30am PST and we have build several hundred sites already.

I wish I had more time to respond...but i am very busy.

Good luck all
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The videos I did above was done quickly. You want to make sure you have a time to build solid subdomains. Logical exstension of the root domain. For example.

I have a domain named http://electricguitarbrands.com/

the subdomains are

FenderElectricGuitar.electricguitarbrands.com
GibsonElectricGuitar.electricguitarbrands.com

I guess it is just easier to criticize then simply understand the power of this software.

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The videos I did above was done quickly. You want to make sure you have a time to build solid subdomains. Logical exstension of the root domain. For example.

I have a domain named Electric Guitar Brands

the subdomains are

FenderElectricGuitar.electricguitarbrands.com
GibsonElectricGuitar.electricguitarbrands.com

I guess it is just easier to criticize then simply understand the power of this software.

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Thank you for your response.

How are you addressing the duplicate penalty issue?

I know some people say it doesn't exist, but I once create an article directory/autoblog and after after about 6 months of decent adsense earnings ... all I was doing was making a directory of articles similar to ezinearticles.com and the entire domain was delisted from google.

All that work ... Up in flames.

Does your program somehow add some uniqueness to the content?
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Done right duplicate content isn't an issue. I have a number of autoblogs with good PR and rank quite well.

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Couldn't agree more Garret...that is certainly a myth I wish would finally die.
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Personally if you’re going to ask the product owner questions and he is replying here in the thread I think I would ask him why he had server problems at all if he was supposedly only selling 200 copies....especially when he himself states he didn't expect to sell 5000 copies in 3 days.

It's this kind of blatant lie that gives IM a bad name in general and in my opinion it's even worse when it's done against our own kind.

I'm sure the product does some amazing things and from the sounds of it (based on some of the user reviews), it just might...but what I really have a problem with is the shady marketing approach. I find it very difficult to trust someone when they've obviously lied straight to my face!
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Duplicate content isn't an issue... but Copyright violations are. I had an autoblog that was pulling from an article directory... lets call it "ab.com".

I received an email from my hosting company that my account had been suspended due to a copyright violation, and they shut down ALL of my sites... I have over 50 on this one hosting account, which includes all of my niche sites and business sites as well as clients websites.

I couldn't really "raise hell" about it because I violated their T.O.S. by having an article that was copyright protected... but I had no idea because it was pulled automatically from ab.com.

I merely had to remove the article before they would re-activate my account, but had I not been in my email when I received the notice... my sites could have been down for a LONG time.

Just giving you guys a heads up about my experience with autoblogging... I still may buy this product and put it to use, but I may need to get another hosting account because I don't want my sites shut down again.

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Personally if you’re going to ask the product owner questions and he is replying here in the thread I think I would ask him why he had server problems at all if he was supposedly only selling 200 copies....especially when he himself states he didn't expect to sell 5000 copies in 3 days.


Its scarcity... everybody does it. Lie? yes... but that is an age-old tactic.
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Duplicate content isn't an issue... but Copyright violations are. I had an autoblog that was pulling from an article directory... lets call it "ab.com".

I received an email from my hosting company that my account had been suspended due to a copyright violation, and they shut down ALL of my sites... I have over 50 on this one hosting account, which includes all of my niche sites and business sites as well as clients websites.

I couldn't really "raise hell" about it because I violated their T.O.S. by having an article that was copyright protected... but I had no idea because it was pulled automatically from ab.com.

I merely had to remove the article before they would re-activate my account, but had I not been in my email when I received the notice... my sites could have been down for a LONG time.

Just giving you guys a heads up about my experience with autoblogging... I still may buy this product and put it to use, but I may need to get another hosting account because I don't want my sites shut down again.
Well, I was talking about getting delisted from the SERPs. I had an article directory with over 50,000 articles (no copyright violations) in which I was earning decent adsense before Google delisted the entire site ... no reason given.

The only reason I could think of was duplicate content from the author submissions. I did nothing else wrong.

I was a little worried the same thing might happen with autoblogging.
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Well, I was talking about getting delisted from the SERPs. I had an article directory with over 50,000 articles (no copyright violations) in which I was earning decent adsense before Google delisted the entire site ... no reason given.

The only reason I could think of was duplicate content from the author submissions. I did nothing else wrong.

I was a little worried the same thing might happen with autoblogging.
Some people are a little more guarded about their content than others. I used a guy's article from EZA on one of my sites, and I included EVERYTHING... including the resource box links. he emailed me about it, and I removed it. No need in getting into some petty argument when I was fully within my rights thru EZA's TOS, but some folks are like that.
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The guidelines of Ezine Articles CLEARLY gives you the right to use their articles if you include all the links. But if you had a disgruntled author, I would have done the same, and removed his article but I would have also reminded him of Ez's guidelines. He shouldn't be posting articles there if he doesn't want them syndicated.
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I realize scarcity is part of the game and in some ways I understand it...doesnt mean I have to agree with it! If a marketer at all intended to actually (even partially) make something scarce and "inadvertantly" over sold a few copy's / memberships or whatever that would be one thing but to say you're only offering 200 and then sell 5000 in the first 3 days...well that's just rediculous...tha'ts 25 times what he advertised, think about that...that goes way beyond scarcity marketing in my book.

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So I bought this today and checked out all the videos, etc.

Overall I think its a pretty good product and I'm sure the videos would be helpful to those unfamiliar with setting up hosting, a multi-site network and sub-domains.

But I've got to be honest here, the basic program doesn't offer anything that seems different than setting up a MU network. You can get a free plugin to do that from the WP directory. But you still have to create each blog separately.

I guess with the upgrade you can load many at one time, but you have to buy the upgrade. Then, you have to buy more plugins for the traffic and syndication.

All along as I was reviewing this product I keep thinking about the MultiPress plugin that does all this stuff in one package. Plus, I think it builds its blogs without using the WP multisite which I think means it uses less resources from your host. Although I an't remember if it needs to be installed in the root directory of your hosting account.

So, I'm really not bashing this product, its just that as a user I just feel MultiPress is better and cheaper because you can get the multiple blog set up and traffic modules in one package for the same price.

& as far as disclosure, right I am not promoting either of these products, but I am testing both of them. At some point in the near future I will probably promote either one or both.

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I actually think that Bill is one of the good guys. My guess is that he didn't know about the 199 copy claim...someone else probably wrote the copy. Who knows?

Anyway...I bought his Marketing on the Fringe product quite a while back. Created 10 blogs following his exact blueprint (embedded i-frame to a target money site). Each blog gets an average of 150-200 unique visitors per day all autopilot duplicate content. So a total of around 2,000 unique visitors per day.

The embedded i-frame "call to action" gets about 5-10% clickthru...so roughly 100-150 people per day get sent to an opt-in page. Out of that amount about 50 opt-in per day. Bottom line...his Marketing on the Fringe product adds 1,500 opt-ins per month to my niche list. My guess is that product added $20,000-$30,000 to my bottom line in 2010.

...but a newbie wouldn't know how to leverage MOF like that. My guess is that this new system is extremely effective for people who understand the big picture. I think it is probably frustrating to guys like Bill who create something powerful...but maybe 5% of the people see the power behind it.

While others bash a lot of these automated tools...I actually think we are spoiled for choices. If someone would use the tools and add a little creativity (and stick with something)...they would probably do extremely well.

While I disagree with the sales pages...some of these products are actually quite impressive.

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Hey...I'm certainly not one to bash automation tools....not at all! Im ALL for them

He may be a great guy, I don't know him personally and his products might be the next best thing since sliced bread but saying that he may not have known about the sales page and its contents...I find that very hard to believe. Even if that were true....then that's kind of sad as well. Anyone selling something (especially to fellow IM'ers...many of them newbies) should know exactly what is on their sales page, he's an internet marketer..I mean seriously. The sales page is the marketers first point of contact with the general public, it sets the tone for the relationship that follows. If the sales page is full of hype / BS / lies then I run away instantly...

Just the way I see it.
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Hey...I'm certainly not one to bash automation tools....not at all! Im ALL for them

He may be a great guy, I don't know him personally and his products might be the next best thing since sliced bread but saying that he may not have known about the sales page and its contents...I find that very hard to believe. Even if that were true....then that's kind of sad as well. Anyone selling something (especially to fellow IM'ers...many of them newbies) should know exactly what is on their sales page, he's an internet marketer..I mean seriously. The sales page is the marketers first point of contact with the general public, it sets the tone for the relationship that follows. If the sales page is full of hype / BS / lies then I run away instantly...

Just the way I see it.
I agree, scarcity is one thing but this one really pushes the limits for me.

Not bashing Bill here, but it's giving him a heck of a pass to assume that he never reads his own copy.

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I bought the product this evening - and the upsell - and I have to be honest - sitting there and having to create a csv file is NOT my idea of pushing a couple of buttons, which is what the video said for the upsell - the upsell video made it sound as though it was totally automated.

As to the number sold - WHOA! I don't think the comments about 5,000 being sold are bashing because the limited number to be sold was a major part of the sales pitch! 199 slots were to be filled - and Bill comes here and says 5,000 were sold. The fact that the software was NOT limited is indeed a part of the entire program and deserves to be commented on in the review.

I haven't installed it yet, but have gone through the videos, and intend to set-up my first project tomorrow, but I am so not thrilled about the csv file.

I bought his Twittenator a couple of weeks ago - and it totally rocks - will be back to let you know about this one - but it is not as 'automated' as I was hoping for.

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Love how this thread only has a couple legit reviews.

The rest is pretty much people trying to push their own personal ethical standards.

Last I heard this was a PRODUCT REVIEW FORUM. Not an Ethics Forum.

Is the product good or is it not? That is the question. I see few real answers...

It's against the forum rules to trash others.
Umm....yeah.
I did find out that there are two upsells by using JV Notify, but don't know what each of them consist of. Sounds like the one that 'deploys', or 'mass' deploys with the spreadsheet, is important, but I sure don't know.

The sales page is a bit hard to believe because of the $47 price. It talks about never having to build a single link again, and many other pro factors like syndicating & running on autopilot - making money.
(Someone here said that we would also need WP Syndicator and more.)
To me it sounds like the results they achieved were Also from using whatever are in the upsells. Who knows?

In other words, $47 isn't enough for all that it's supposed to do.
Oops, I forgot, they said they had first considered on selling it for $500.

This forum Had been great lately about reporting whether the core product itself was worth the purchase. I heard that they're raising the price Sunday night or Monday...just wanted to know.

Note: I used edit/find in Firefox - and video, training, instruction, tutorial, etc. don't show up on the sales page. Strange to me.
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Well, just got through the sales video and then did my usual thing that's pop over here and see what folk are saying about the system..

The one thing that concerns me is that, one of these days the big G is going to slap a lot of blogs in the face because, there has just been a total explosion of auto blogs all pulling content from the same places like eza and go articles etc...

Running around 120 sites with about 80% being auto blogs makes me wonder about how good my business model really is and do I need to create another bunch of sites along the same lines..

The sales video does push the point that only 200 units will be sold and now we read here that 5k were sold on launch day..

Given the size of the internet and the diversity of each niche it probably won't matter if they sell 10k this week..

Looking through my own sites and trying to evaluate earnings and from where the money came..I happened to notice one site I set up a year or so ago with Hyper VRE has made about 400$ and I've not touched it since it went live..I'm using the paid version but, you can do it for free with more work..I know people who are making 30K to 40K monthly with the same system..

IMO: While this may be the best thing since sliced bread reading the reviews then, it needs a lot more time and money investment and tweaking to get the benefit from it..

Will be interesting to see more warrior reviews in time...though, the sales page earnings make it very tempting indeed..

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Are you sure about dedicated hosting? "Hostgator dedicated server hosting $ 174 /month"
That's the con for me, otherwise I'd probably go for it. To my knowledge in his Never Fail Listbuilding course he only emphasized having and using reseller hosting which was a Good thing.
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neodarth,
Are you sure about dedicated hosting? "Hostgator dedicated server hosting $ 174 /month"
That's the con for me, otherwise I'd probably go for it. To my knowledge in his Never Fail Listbuilding course he only emphasized having and using reseller hosting which was a Good thing.
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If I were to buy I would try it out on my reseller account first. I think I'd only need a dedicated box if I scaled to 1000s of sites.

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i didnt buy this product so correct me if i am wrong but isnt this WPMU method essentially what Keith Baxter's "secret" autoblog method was with the big $2000 Epic Traffic product he did....ill be interested to see how long this subdomain/wpmu strategy lasts as its has become widely used for a while among autobloggers.
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I'm just now looking over this product, and this is a bit of a peeve of mine, not a review, BUT...

Call me paranoid, cautious, or whatever but something supposedly this powerful, as well as other auto-blogging tools, that use G's own YOUTUBE to promote it is possibly a risk in and of it's self.

IF these product creators are doing so well with the tools, and it honestly it seems clear Bill is after checking some of this sites indexing, why not host your own videos?

Why put them out on Youtube in the first place? It's like blowing smoke in their face. How long do we think they'll put up with it?

Yea..maybe I'm G paranoid but at least host your own videos and give your customers a chance to profit from this thing before G pulls the plug.

Obviously you don't need the traffic from Tube as your 5000+ sales did not come from your Tube video views.

Just a hang up I have with guys promoting, and instructions, of these kinds of tools on Tube.

I'm seriously looking at the full package after coming here to check reviews.
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I'd like to know how fast do these blogs on subdomains get indexed by google, and where do they get traffic from, since they are not SEO'd and keyword optimized?
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So theorically we are talking about 500 blogs a day 2.500 a week and 10000 blogs a month if each of them gives you just $0.1 a day you do the math.

The cost?
Hostgator dedicated server hosting $ 174 /month
Godaddy .com domain names $11.99 x 100 = $1199 / year
Market Samurai $ 149 /one time payment
Massive Passive Profit w/mass deploy $ 244
Total Investment $1766

10000 blogs at $0.1 day x 30 days $30000 / month

But... you know how numbers are... they paint you a dreamed scenario and sometimes they simply lie... but it will be awesome to get that passive income for 1 month work... if only this works that way right?
Neodarth, I did the math. You were off by a decimal point!

10,000 blogs at $0.1 day x 30 days = $3,000 / month

Like others here have mentioned, would be concerned about footprint and indexing (ranking these would be a long shot, IMHO)

I also heard that a good practice is to wait a month or two before adding your ads, so Google doesn't ignore/dismiss the site immediately.

Does this plugin clone an entire WP setup with additional plugins you may want to add?
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Its scarcity... everybody does it. Lie? yes... but that is an age-old tactic.
Selling drugs to kids is an age-old tactic too, but that doesn't make it right. It's not scarcity, it is a lie. And based on that lie, you have to wonder what else he's lying about. Not only that, reading the sales letter alone should make you wonder if he really knows what he's talking about. The "Google Test" is a joke, lol.
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Hi All -

Okay, I am back. Went through everything, watched the videos, and did my first installation.

There are so many points in the sales letter that don't match up to the product, I don't even know where to begin, but the key thing for me was that I a) couldn't see where this was going to do anything to drive all of the promised traffic and b) sorry, but I don't really consider the csv file method to be a 'push button' automated way of setting up subdomains.

The videos in the training area actually recommend a number of other premium plugins for traffic generation.

I really, really wanted to love this as much as I love Twittenator, but for me anyway, it is not the solution that I am looking for.

If you have never installed a WP Multisite blog though, the plugin would be a big help - but I am still not sure where the 'automated traffic' is supposed to come from with this system - and there were a lot of people asking the same thing.

The videos are also the only training apparently, and since this seemed to attract a lot of 'newbies', it would have been nice if there had been documentation in a printed format - especially for the csv file set-up.

Last but not least monetizing: the only way to monetize is with Amazon. Anything else apparently has to be manually added.

I am sure that some people will love the system, but it replicates a lot of what I already have, and fell short of filling the holes in my current processes.

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Discussing a lie on a sales page isn't trashing. But kudos to you for sticking up for lying, lol.
I compeltely agree with Black Hat and RSBERG on this. This stopped me from going any further.

As far as not talking about ethics here...are you kidding me? It's ALL about trust. Why do business with someone who you KNOW lies?

In the sales copy they could have used "scarcity" by simply saying they don't know how long it will be available. No need to specify 199 then admit here that it's already over 5K sold in three day.

Finally, why wasn't this on a cloud server from inception? I am certainly no expert in this area but if they are making over 100k per month spend a few more bucks and go with the best?
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gacott, thanks. That was what I was hoping/thinking. Since my post I've heard from a very reliable source that he recommends the higher level reseller Hostgator package, but 'ideally' a dedicated Hostgator would be best.

jamesdj1, I've had one of those paranoid thoughts before too, but think about it. Heck, there's probably a couple of Big G's people as members in this very forum. Google is wherever they want to be to know what they want to know

Melody, thanks for the much needed info. The traffic is probably supposed to come from the recommended plugins, and the odds from having that many sites And on carefully chosen niches.

After looking at Bill's sites I noticed two things.
On one of them he is building a list through an exit pop-up.
The others - well, when I picture myself looking for information/researching, I know I'd land on one and think, "Oh, no....not another one of these sites with no info, and a lot of garbled goop with a bunch of links." How many of that type of site are there going to be out there now?
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There are always problems with product launched. I had no clue we would sell 5,000 copies of the software in 3 days.

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I wish I had more time to respond...but i am very busy.
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...the compromise we made. We decided to pick a number that would be fair to us and to the market that supported us for so long.
We decided to make 199 slots available to use this software.
Two hundred was the basic idea, but 199 sounds a little bit more interesting.
The idea is…
that we do not want this kind of software getting into the wrong hands.
Just because certain sports cars can do 130 miles per hour on a residential road doesn’t mean you should use them that way.

http://massivepassiveprofits.com/images/title28.jpg

There’s no telling what some black hat acrobat could do if they steal the software and thousands of people are all running it at the same time.
That’s why we feel that 199 are enough for those of you who want success badly enough to get a chance to have this software change your life.
It’s not too much to let the cat completely out of the bag.
That was a bit of a tangent about why we’re strictly limiting access to this to 199 people and no more.
I bought the product including the mass deploy and I am disappointed with what I hear about the number of copies.

We could eventually hit a saturation point and I don't think there will be any incoming profits after that.
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Traffic comes mainly by SEO, and backlinking using some paid plugins.
So the "68 Traffic Streams" are from other plugins you have to buy? Don't like that --

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PROS
This thing is an autoblogging dream. You can build them in a spreadsheet, upload and walk away.
It will automatically setup unlimited subdomains (e.g. blog1.dumblogger.net, blog2.dumblogger.net, etc)
But that's only if you buy the auto-deploy upgrade feature, right? Otherwise, you have to create each sub-domain blog manually, correct?

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So, I'm really not bashing this product, its just that as a user I just feel MultiPress is better and cheaper because you can get the multiple blog set up and traffic modules in one package for the same price.
So you're testing both but haven't decided which is a better value? I'd be interested in that - just went and looked at MuliPress because of your comment and it looks very comprehensive. Is it easy to use?

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Neodarth, I did the math. You were off by a decimal point!
10,000 blogs at $0.1 day x 30 days = $3,000 / month
Uh...Netafile? Look again. YOU'RE the one off by a decimal point.

Neodarth's math:
10,000 blogs x $0.10 day x 30 days = $30,000 / month

Netafile's math:
10,000 blogs x $0.01 day x 30 days = $3,000 / month

Don't want to split hairs, but that one kind of slapped me --
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I bought the product including the mass deploy and I am disappointed with what I hear about the number of copies.

We could eventually hit a saturation point and I don't think there will be any incoming profits after that.
I don't think that this will be saturated any time soon. There are thousands of niches to market and millions of keywords to target.
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