meester

HI everybody,
I just got an email from Alex Goad promoting Tubefool,
I saw this tool in his last launch Dominating Videos, is it the same that they gave for free or it's a new improved products.

Alex always deliver good products anyone tried it yet ?

Marc

Alex Sol

Haven't tried it but was wondering about ToobFool as well... I am also wondering if use of such software is legal?

tbohannon

I too was looking at the Video Domination launch and now TubeFool. I was reconsidering purchasing TubeFool.

However, after reading this post:
DominatingVideo, Alex Gold and Mark Dulisse ring any bells?

I am not interested.

Especially when most of this can be outsourced in a fashion that limits your accounts from being banned, compared to automation. You can find much more affordable "How To" WSO's that will get you and any outsourcer using best practices.

I also don't like the feedback I saw about how you are treated by the support team. If I am spending $500 and can't find the content I paid for and get a rude response..imagine what the rest of the relationship is going to be like.

Ty

Alex Sol

That's the thing. After reading DominatingVideo review I kind of lost interest in TubeFool...

Google News Man

I have found some interesting facts.

This tool will be eventually stopped by the staff of youtube/google. Because if you check it carefully what tubefool does, it is just spamming the hell out of Youtube users.
Offcourse there will be people that will use it carefully but everybody can buy it and there always will be people not using is carefully and use it 24/7 and after a while youtube people will report it to Youtube/Google and the fun will end faster than it started.

We will see! Just my thoughts.

eholmlund

I was very impressed with the demo video on the sales page, so I decided to check out YouTube's TOS to see what it said about such activities.

This is from section 4-H at http://www.youtube.com/t/terms:

Now keep in mind this is NOT a statement about whether or not the system works. Apparently it DOES work.

So I'm not saying you shouldn't buy it, and I'm not trying to hurt their sale. I'm just saying that if you're not OK with grey/black hat methods, then this may not be for you. That having been said, it's only fair to mention that MANY of the most popular marketing software programs being sold are in violation of at least one of Google's TOS. In fact, such tools are so prolific that they are generally considered to be acceptable by the marketing community. I know I've even promoted some of them.

But I felt is was worth mentioning, as others may want to take these things into consideration, as I did.

Bronwyn and Keith

Hi Eric

Awesome info.

Thanks for digging it out for the rest of us so that we can make an informed decision.

Regards

Bronwyn and Keith

Amitywill

Me too. They might have had a new customer if they hadn't
of acted like such scammers in their DominatingVideo launch.

And also Tube Fool goes way against YouTubes terms of service!

Do you think You Tube wants you collecting a list of tens of thousands
of their members and spamming them everyday?!?

OF COURSE NOT!

You'll end up getting banned or sued by You Tube in the end
with a BlueFart tool like this.

And believe me a multi billion dollar company like You Tube/ Google
will sue you if you continue to piss them off by abusing their
users.

Also if the software is so great and you can make so much money
off of it then why are they selling it?

Because wouldn't that dilute it's power if thousands of people
get their hands on it.

Oh yeah that's right... They're limiting the amount they sell.

And Andy if you're reading this then I would have sacked you
instantly if you had spoken to my customers like that.

I'm staying well clear of this overpriced garbage.

Will

J.Agnew.JD

I LOVE the Warrior Forum and the mistakes and money it saves me!

sallycev

I'm thinking that you would be better off using the built in Youtube toolbox to find related videos to the niche you are looking for and reaching out to their "friends" asking them to be your friend.

Using Youtube's tools won't get you in any trouble and I believe you can get their toolbox for a very nominal monthly fee of around $9 or so.

I'm sure their product works very well but I'm wondering how long it will take Youtube to find a way to stop it?

All the best!
Sally

musiclyons

After reading your comments, I would be very careful. I am going to pass on this piece of software. Thanks Guys & Ladies

Tiger66466

Ahhh, I'm so glad I remember to check the Warrior Forum before buying most things these days.

I'm going to steer clear for the potential hot water I could get into with Youtube. Though I do like some of the ideas it has given me on approaching other's friends and subscribers - but I can do that manually (though of course on a smaller scale) or when I have the funds - outsource.

Thanks, Sally - I'm going to look into the toolbox suggestion as well.

Stacy

stiggs

My first thought was this will get your youtube account banned within the 21 minutes that the sales page says it takes to make money using this software just like an account of mine on facebook was deleted when I used automated software. i was considering buying it but then thought of good old warrior forum. Another $77 saved!

HiAbby

I'm glad this is here. I'm still going to purchase it to use it and see how effective it is. If it is, there are always juicy outsourcing lessons to be gleaned.

In my opinion, it's always good to be pushing the limits. It's always the rule-breakers that go farthest in life. (Of course that's not a popular opinion)

balara

I purchased Dominating Video (subsequently requested a refund) and Tube Fool was one of the bonuses. I ran it to see what it could do and yes, it is very effective at downloading the email addresses of "friends" of the video publisher.
This created a dilemma! What do I do now? Do I spam these people? Do I put up a video in the same niche and hope that these people will follow me?

Maybe there is someone here who is much more inventive than me, but neither of the above options were ok with me, so TF just sits on my desktop twiddling its sneaky "thumbs" until someone comes up with an ethical way to use it.

sappacis13

I never heard about tubefool.

But I heard about tubemogul.

By the way how tubefool works? Sound fool... Lol!

Anyway, how?

Thanks!

GlenH

Maybe I’m missing something, but ‘when watching the demo of ‘tube fool’ what this software does is grabs the subscribers off the profile of a YouTube channel owner..

But what good are the ‘subscriber’ user names, because you don’t get any email addresses attached to those user names. So how can you possibly contact these people to market anything to them.

What did I miss?

AllyW

I was also intrigued by TubeFool, but I could not see any way to use it without spamming people.

Gasen

Hi Glen

I purchased TubeFool.

You don't email the users. Think of this as "social marketing with videos". The idea here is to get them to your video. Then you send them to your url of choice.

The software will get usernames. These are the options:
Get user's friends
Get user's subscribers
Get video comentators
Get user's by keyword

This takes a few minutes

Once you have the list of usernames, you can then:
Send friend request
Subscribe to their channel
Share video with them

This part takes very long. The default setting is min 80sec and max 360sec. That is the time it takes to send these requests. I just sent about 100 friend requests which took about 5 hours. IMO it is mimicking manual requests.

HTH

tredd80p

I've been entertaining the idea of getting this too. Gasen, thank you for info on a real purchase. From the way you make it sound, its quite tame compared to the spamming comments above. Please continue to update us on your findings. Good or bad.

I have a question too... in their video they say as a member they show you how to find profitable niches, and they elude to some techniques to making the $45-$200 per day. Was this information actually included?

I love the WF, really useful to weed through the BS.

Gasen

Hi Tredd

Any software can be abused. I think Tube Fool, with the min/max time settings, will make it a little difficult for spammers to abuse it. I hope I am correct.

Yes making money is included. It is basically affiliate marketing. Lets face it, if you have the traffic you can plug in and test various monetisation methods and see which works best for your niche and site. Even direct linking.

I purchased because I want to do more video marketing and save time on the time consuming aspects. The automation can run any time, even while I am asleep.

HTH

P.S If you have any questions, just ask. I will do my best to answer or admit that I do not know.

housewarrior

HERE HERE J. Agnew!!! Hear hear? I'm on the Warrior Forum about 5 seconds after I get one of these mails that look sooooo good. Then I get the rest of the story. I'm always "shocked" and "amazed" when I learn the "secret" truth on the Warrior Forum. Thanks WF guys!!!
Norm

jprano

I would suggest you check out their support before you do anything.
It has been a nightmare for me. Maybe they finally got enough complaints to fix it.
( I hope for the sake of the new buyers)

Hopp

Automation is always tempting, but can be dangerous. Does anyone have experience with having their Youtube accounts canceled? I have heard plenty of Facebook and Twitter horror stories but none about Youtube. How strict are they?

Marc Harty

A colleague told me about TubeToolBox.com and it looks like it does something similar but for a lot cheaper, only $9.95 month. (With a $20 activation fee.)

I haven't tried Tube Fool or this other one. And there does seem to be some Terms and Conditions concerns so there's that as well. I guess proceed at your own risk...

Marc

Marty S

I had a look at this thing a couple months ago, and as a long-time Youtube account holder with nearly 3 million views, I would be very wary of using such a product. If you must go the way of black-hat, create an entirely new account to try this thing out.

Google has a magical way of identifying ANYTHING automated, and honestly this is a strategy similar to auto-friend finding on Twitter - you are just going to end up with a lot of useless IM friends sending GUNK to each other. That is your best case scenario. At worst, your account will be closed without notice.

I have actually received some of these friend requests that are clearly automated. Not only do I NOT approve them, but I also report them as spammers. How many spam reports do you think Youtube will tolerate on your account from established video producers?

Youtube is an AMAZING tool, but the RIGHT way to go about it is to start creating original content that helps your target audience. It is just so simple. Invest your time doing that, and I promise you, they will come. It may not be overnight, but once they start coming to your channel for REAL content, you will not even be able to stop it if you wanted to.

The way I see it anyhow.

darrenmonroe

The issue I had with the sales page was that they said thousands of people and Youtubes only allows like 10 people and then sends you a notice.

FollowSuccess

Yeah be careful purchasing,

I purchased a product from Mark Dulisse and I'm fighting to get my $200 back.

The sales page did say 100% money back, but not happening...

My access to the membership does not even work anymore.

So I spent $200 and got nothing...

IM-Info

Does anyone have experience with having their Youtube accounts cancelled? using this software? Please let me know

vanillawoods

Actually I'm looking at it too, in fact I filled out all my information on the order form, and before I hit send I came here to the Warrior Forum.

Thank goodness, I just took doubt out of the equation.

Especially if it's hard to get a refund.

The Youtube ToolBox looks good and I will check this out.

Thanks,
Eric

I will post this to my blog.

mjveinbergs

Thanks to everyone for this thread...saved a bunch of $ by going with TubeToolbox...lifetime subscription for $135 (with coupon code I found via google search). Plus they say their software ifully compliant with YouTube TOS.

Gary Pettit

Yep...I did the exact same thing with a coupon code for TubeToolbox. PLUS...TubeToolbox interface looks much much better as well as all the same features of TubeFool and more. $135 compared to $500 is a no brainer. I also didn't appreciate hearing about the nightmare support issues people were having with TubeFool. Always be on the lookout for alternatives that do more and cost less....it's worth the extra time invested

SandyHall

Hi Meester, Sandy here..

I posted this on another TubeFool Review Post.
Just thought it was relevant to your post too.

I was browsing around the WF, and ran into
some reviews about TubeFool.

It just looks a bit too unsafe for me.
I also checked out Tube Toolbox.
It looks much safer.
And, there are way more 'useful' features than Tubefool.

I'm going to try out Tube Toolbox and I'll review it here
if you don't mind.

To Your Online Success,
Sandy

Organizationer

What is the coupon code to get discount for tubetoolbox?

Jay Rhome

Tube Toolbox does indeed look as good if not better, for a LOT less money. Maybe I'm missing something though. Actual users and reviews are always better than outside advice but that's what I'm getting from my POV.

polypro

Shame - those coupon codes were there earlier - i unfortunately click refresh and they were gone just as I was about to order!

radar9628

I thought it sounded like automated SPAM too, so I sent an email to the TF support desk and asked them how this could NOT be black hat marketing. This is the response I got:
'TubeFool doesn't do anything that you can't do manually
on YouTube...it just does it a lot faster!

As for using another person's subscribers, it's not like
you're stealing them from that person, because that
person still has them as subscribers. Plus, TubeFool
sends invites to these people, so they have a choice
whether they want to follow/friend you or not.

So, no, I don't think this is black hat.'
Note the last line... Sounds shady to me.

Carlos-Amigos

I was one of the first users of the software and have been using it for several months now across multiple different accounts. Some old accounts as well as several new ones.

All it does is automate what you normally do manually (which I used to do before the software came along) - add a friend, subscribe to a person, send a link to all of your subscribers.

No, it does not scrape their email addresses at all, only their youtube username so you can send them a friend request or you subscribe to them..so in fact you are giving them the option of being your friend or subscribing back to you. So you can either go ahead and do this manually if you want or use the software - either way it all does the same thing.

forsalecoza

Guess that would make almost anything White Hat and nothing is really SPAM.

tubetoolbox and TubeFool both seem to be Grey Hat to me.
Still I guess it is save to use them, if one does it reasonably.

nickjoselle

Great thread - I did purchase TubeFool... and it really is easy, easy to use - and powerful. However, will definitely check out Tube Toolbox, as I paid the monthly rate on TubeFool to check it out.

I can confirm the horrible customer service. Sent a ticket in 5 days ago, and still haven't heard back.

So, final analysis: Great software, horrible customer service.

forsalecoza

So what did you pay?

cbjack

it seems like this is great, but i'm not ready for video marketing.

Mark Dulisse

Ya, customer service really sucks...but let me explain.

Membership and wordpress scripts....yuk

With 1k new customers in just a couple days, the support inbox was flooded with "where is my login, where is my software."

Rightly so...

Of course, this was all tested before hand, but the email server for some reason had issues.

And individuals were sending in, not 1, but 2-10 tickets each, all asking the same thing.

We went into emergency mode, and even I did supports as well. We pretty much got the handle on it now, as only about 100 tickets still left.

So, apologies. We are working our hardest.

Regarding the software, yes, it is very powerful. Remember, you can have as many Youtube accounts as you want. It doesn't cost you $15 per Youtube account per month (like another software does). It is unlimited usage you have.

Also, I am releasing a new upgrade any hour, and it will ROCK your socks off.

Thanks for the support everyone.

Back to work...

Carlos-Amigos

I can confirm that the latest release is way better than the previous one, allowing you to do multiple accounts was a constant annoyance, since I need to do the same thing for a lot of my clients -- and when you're adding 10,000 friends that certainly takes a while, but with that now dealt with I can queue up jobs for multiple clients and have them all running in the background. Sweet!!

Thanks
Carl

CCPP

I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THE WARRIOR FORUM, AND THOSE WHO
POST THERE HONEST EXPERIENCES AND REVIEWS, WHICH HELPS
OTHERS LIKE MYSELF FROM MAKING THE MISTAKES LIKE I AM
SEEING WITH THE PRODUCT "TUBEFOOL" AND OTHER PRODUCTS
AS WELL.

THANKS EVERYONE,

wilsonfamily28

Carl, Does it allow you to have as many channels as you want running at once? For example: channel1 sending friend requests, channel2 sending videos, channel1 also sending videos, channel3 subscribing. so on.
If it does allow this, do you need to be on a VPN or proxy? So it is not all coming from the same ip?

Thank you so much!

Brenda

maxitman

Yep, just talked to a youtube person, and while he did not say tubefool/tube toolbox are totally outlawed or anything like that at this point, he did say that type of action is not something they look at favorably, so it's a risk, that is for sure. And knowing how Google does it, they'll just come down hard and heavy, and the next thing you know, you are off the air. somehow, it seems to me, you can get lot of that done without risking your internet presence. I mean look at this way, would you take it if it was free, but you would risk your website? I don't think so. Then why consider it, if you have to pay.

TheTroglodyte

I'm not quite sure it was indeed TubeFool I used but I tried something very similar and was really disappointed in it for what it's worth.

forsalecoza

On tubetoolbox there is someone openly admitting he used that tool. I don't see him being penalized in any way.

maxitman

Frankly, if I'd do it, I would go with tube toolbox for sure, from what I hear tubefool is not the way to go. An incomplete product with questionable refund/support system, so that would certainly add more risk into the equation. A software like this might not be such a bad idea, but one thing is for sure, you should use it with considerable care, and if you cant trust the product, I would stay away from it.