pixelcrafter

Hi Cheapdeals,

Do you submit your homepage only or do you also submit every pages of your site ? (crawl the entire site then submit them all)

Kindly tell me.
Thanks,
-Pixel-

Jimbeam

BMD easy, however you could also go with something like SE Nuke as it covers other web2 link building stuff, but BMD is good value for money.

VaultBoss

Guys, don't know how BMD works, I only have been using Social Bot and SENuke, for a while.

SENuke is what it is... expensive monthly fee... for the same amount of money I'd rather use manual bookmarking with VA's from India, etc...

Social Bot, at it's price especially, is a handy tool that does only what it says it does.
It's not a miracle! It's a tool.

I have separated my sites into different categories:
Captcha's and non-Captcha's
I start bookmarking on the first ones... it takes abt 5 mins?
Then I let the software work on auto-pilot for the other ones.
BTW, you CAN add scuttle sites in SB if you want to.

It is not intended to bring you traffic directly. That is simply not what social bookmarking does, if used this way.
If you're a member of a group on say... Digg, Stumbleupon, etc...
and kindly ask your friends to help your link by voting, digging, etc... you will notice some traffic while it lasts (usually a few hours-days, depending on how hot your topic is)

The real traffic comes from good SERP's derived from good on-page and off-page SEO.
Carefully research the market/niche.
Choose some good not so competitive KW's and try to rank well for those.

If you do it this way, bookmarking (either manually, or with softwares like SB or any other, as a matter of fact) will help getting backlinks.
These will carry with them more or less juice (PR) according to the sites they come from.
Sometimes, fewer more powerful links weigh FAR more than hundredths ones from un-noticeable sites...

In any case, I was able to rank high for my KW's whenever I did my research right previous to the bookmarkings.

One thing though... I use Social Bot only once per day and bookmark only one of my own links, plus a few of my friend's...
I do this as a sort of bookmarking swap.

If any of you are interested... PM me.

In the end... for it's price I'd say Social Bot is a bargain, really!

Steve
PS
Drunken Greek's support is ok, BTW...

Fernando Veloso

WinVista here and no problem whatsoever. In fact, the software just got updated AGAIN and works perfectly. Been using for a month and it's a no brainer.

cloakmaster

I wish BMD would integrate the captcha services out there, but edwin says he has no plans for integrating anything like that ever. sucks

cybernac

I have tried both and gave up on BMD after a week. The scuttle sites were too hard for me to find. I absolutely love Social Bot. It includes all the popular ones and makes it easy to sign up too.

Thomas Smale

Have you tried SocialMarker.com? it's free and does everything you could need from a bookmarking tool.

I've used it for a while and highly recommend it.

robofx

I always get a kick out of the example often used for why sudden large numbers of backlinks won't result in a Google penalty: Drudge's breaking of the big Clinton-Lewinsky scandal.

Look Ma: millions of sudden backlinks, no Google penalty!

What the story-retellers leave out (and probably don't even know) is that Drudge broke the story on January 17, 1998.

Google was incorporated on September 4, 1998. LOL

foxy_roxy

Using Bookmarking software as part of a wider SEO strategy to boost SERPs IMHO is better than a sudden [and unnatural looking] boost of traffic.

Someone said "With great power comes great responsibility", Having access to powerful tools means one may have to exercise the power responsibly and gently so long term success is guaranteed.........

Existing users of BMD and Socialbot:

What are the pros and cons of BMD and Socialbot?

Thanks in advance

pavionjsl

I love the penalty thing with millions of bookmarks. Anyone one remember the baby commercials when they were all roller skating? Guess how many backlinks that video site got in a week...........millions!

lewisrl205

I've used only wire and dont have any complaints

adorton

I recently bought BMD and selectively BM'd my pages, only BM'ing a couple of high pr sites per day with choice keywords. Guess what happened? Google BM'ed me from page 1 to page 2. Mind you 2-3 backlinks a day shouldn't register with Big Brother Google whatsoever but never the less my page dropped for my keywords. Needless to say I have requested my refund and will move on.

All the automation in the world means exactly Jack Crap if it doesn't produce results.

Manual BM'ing is the only way to go.

(he said bm) he he

Kael41

I have no idea how long you've been doing seo, but your advice is soooo off the mark it's really bad. There is absolutely nothing wrong with automatic bookmarking software when used responsibly...at all. Automation means efficiency, and if you can automate a process to submit, you can automate a process to verify.

David

LilBlackDress

I tried onlywire...just bookmarked once a day, varied sites and found my Keywords dropped a lot in google....so not sure about social bookmarking.

Pufferf1sh

I think Bookmarking demon does this by also bookmarking one or two other sites selected using RSS feeds...

Pufferf1sh

Okay... as I'm writing this my antiquated laptop is painstakingly downloading Bookmarking Demon 5, meanwhile some overly-worked computer chip in my bank's server is religiously processing my Paypal payment of the princely some of $147... The download has (at an audacious speed of 11.1 KBS..) a tantalising 8 minutes and 47 seconds to go...

Any last minute Social Bot bombardiers out there to jump to the rescue??

JHenry

My $.02:

Bookmarking Demon was an atrocious experience for me. I wanted to like it, I wanted it to work... but in the end, it was just a piece of bloatware.

Socialbot 4 is a great tool. Can't beat the price either.

I also use Howie Schwartz's bookmarking generation tool. It's part of his black hat labs tools. $1000/yr. Well worth it... you can see a comparison of the tools at the second link above.

Finally, I also use Auto Social Poster. 100,000 posts = $199.00. Best feature is the randomization.

Let me break this down further:
1.) Steer clear of Bookmarking Demon, imho.
2.) If you can't afford Howie's tool or ASP, SocialBot is your best bet.
3.) Howie's tool and ASP use randomization and drip feed posting making them the obvious winners.

One last tip: Don't forget the camouflage aspect of any bookmarking campaign. For example, don't just bookmark your money site or your landing page, but bookmark other sites related to your $ page and landing pages. If youre promoting "arizona straw bale house blueprints" then bookmark pages related to life in the desert, flickr pages of cactii, native american myths, etc. This ensures your bookmarking personas/accounts don't get tagged as spam. It'll look natural... and that's what we want right? You'll get established and mature bookmarking accounts so that when you do decide to run a CPA/PPC/PPV campaign you can bookmark it with established accounts and know those links will stick.

To your success!

Jay

mido

Check Slick Social Pro, right here on Warrior
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-software.html

outsourcetoday

Any one know of any specials or WSO offers for Bookmarkingdemon ?Would appreciate it if anyone shared it.

Travel Planner

BMD is heard to be good but i see no discount on the forum so that we could try out this software.

Certainly if BMD gave a discount coupon fresh purchases might go in there.

Cheers

max922

Bookmarking Demon is best but I prefer Manually Submission of Bookmarks ..

PhilipK

I vote totally for Bookmarking Daemon. I didn't buy it yet, but will do soon. I watched all the videos and it looks pretty nice. Everything included and even camouflage techniques with RSS which is really smart, so you don't have to waste time to find relative posts to camouflage your promotion.

I didn't see the Howie's option, but $1000 a year, please. It's little too much. And I didn't get what is better with Howie's software than BMD.

Tom Goodwin

You do realize that BD is sold through clickbank, don't you? You don't exactly need a coupon.

Tom Goodwin

BD hands down. I love all of incansoft's products, so it isn't a slight against Big Mike, but BD is just so powerful. In addition, i'm pretty sure that social bot (I have it but only used a few times due to its limitations) has some limit on the amount of bookmarks you can put up per day.

This is a real issue for those of that like to bookmark our bookmarks. I load up my profile backlinks at the end of the day (after boosting them with backlink booster), and I import them into BD to run automatically on the non-captcha sites.

Tom

Pat Jackson

I just downloaded the latest of version of BMD and noticed that now require you to enter a category for every bookmark! So if you plan to submit 50 web pages to 50 sites they expect you to manually enter 250 category forms?!

How have you gotten around this, Tom?

ShaneRQR

Yeah, that's incredibly inefficient about the current version.
I hope the next update will fix this. I imagine it will, as in the past, things like this have been adressed quickly.

Pat Jackson

I've contacted the support girl, Jenny, about it. I'll most likely select the most generic category for each site and just leave it when it's fixed.

If I had time to go through each site and manually choose categories I wouldn't need the tool in the first place.

DFM

My vote goes for BMD u can add more sites and it is constantly updating and if u want have 50% discount ask me how

ingoodcause

Hi Prince, I have just bought Social Bot.

Would be glad to know the best practices of using Social Bot. thanks.

blue_sky

I own BMD (as already posted in a different thread) got it for a really low introduction price - one of the few tools I continue to use....

You can add your own sites (I have 1000 or so in the database)
Captcher solving (BMD is running right now in the background)
support is very quick (I needed the support yesterday for the first time ever)
they try to improve the tool always (I wish though they had a kind of automatic update feature like the incan bots)

If you want a real tool go for BMD if you dont want to invest that much money go for Socialbot and wet your toes a bit...

JagSEO

Bookmarking software is great if you can afford it. But I still believe in personal touch where you can submit manually but as they said it takes a lot of time but I think it is worth it. I'm nothing against social bookmarking software because it makes your life easier but I still believe in manual labor and hard work eventhough I am lazy.

blue_sky

how come? You wont get a nr 1 ranking with BMD if this is what you are after and you need more sites in the database which can be easily done...

a negative statement like this about socialbot and the whole greek-southamerica-connection would jump on me LOL

cyberws

I really LOVED Demon - but then it quit working after about three weeks, which was disappointing. At first it started with my memberships - I had to reload them every time I opened up the software. Then it wouldn't post my entries on social sites. I learned to copy everything into a text file and reload the software every time I opened it. Finally it wouldn't work at all. I would click Submit - and in a few seconds it would indicate that it was finished ... but nothing was posted. Too bad. The developer has had at least one update since I quit using it, though, so maybe it's improved.

bodymindsuccess

Personally I have really benefited from BMD, the only challenge I've had from time to time is that it freezes up and I have to start it over.

I was curious as to how it compares to Social Bot...but not curious enough to buy it. It seems it would be overkill.

VaultBoss

In terms of pricing... I'd say Social Bot is rather inexpensive, don't you think?

Steve Lorenzo SEOVirtuoso
Helping YOU To Get Found!

sndas

I have used BMD since a month for getting my sites ranking high in the SEs.
I always submit my site to few of the sites of BMD every day.
But till now I don't find my sites on any of top 10 pages.

Better my ezinearticles help me to get the traffic for my sites.

your comments please.

Satya

koolphoto

I was reading a lot of the posts here and I don't think some people know what software can do for them.

Software tools are no better or worse then the people using them. They are really not magic bullets. If you don't know how to do something manually, software won't help you any better.

If you know how to bookmark manually and are successful at it then the software will make you life more convenient.

I still use both programs. I am successful with both programs. Sometimes, I do certain things manually. Sometimes, I use the programs. It all depends on my objective at the time.

And, I learned all about bookmarking on this forum. Search. Read. Learn. Experiment. Everything is here.

If you want to use the programs to spam because you think it will be faster for you and you will get an enormous amount of links then, go for it. Will that technique work? In most cases no.

Learn to bookmark manually first. Become good at it and then you will appreciate the power of software tools.

Sndas, if you used BMD for a month and are not on any of the top 10 pages, then my question to you is if you bookmark manually will you be on any of the top 10 pages in a month. Probably not.

What do you do to get your bookmarks found? Do you have good anchor text? Do you submit rss feeds? Do you backlink the bookmarks? These are some of the questions you need to ask yourself. I don't think bookmarking by itself will get you to the top 10 pages especially within a month unless you have found the easiest long tail keywords with little or no competition. Then, maybe.

And, this also applies to any software tools you use. Know how to manually find keywords before you use software. Know how to manually submit rss feeds before you use software. Then, your software will be much more powerful and useful to you.

Janet Walker

One thing to ALWAYS look for: Money back guarantee. If a product does not offer your money back after you buy the product then you know something is not right.

I like to buy products from clickbank if possible because of the 60 days you have to try the product out. The money back guarantee should tell which product to buy.

Orlando Web Design

There isn't any easy solution to social bookmarking.

People who are complaining about not getting any traffic after using BD...maybe your websites aren't what people want to see? If you don't have an a good looking or interesting site, of course you won't get any good traffic. That's not the softwares fault.

Also if your backlinks aren't being indexed by Google or the other search engines, you won't see any improvements on your link quantity and therefore, no improvements in traffic.

You need to make sure the pages you are submitting your links to are being pinged. I believe SEO Nuke does this but I can't justify the high subscription fee. For that kind of money, you could just hire an outsourcer to do all this work manually which if you find the right person (and I emphasize the word if), is a much better option.

Problem with us all is we look for the easy solution to all these time consuming tasks involved with SEO and marketing, and then become disillusioned when these solutions don't produce the results we expect. I believe some of these software solutions over promise to draw in customers which is a shame.

Bottom line is... all this works takes time. You can either do it yourself or pay someone else to do it for you. Catch 22.

stabilo66

Can someone please post a fresh, usable list for BDM? I only have 8 sites on it.

Many thanks

guitarpw

I am using bookmarking demon almost everyday to post about 20 urls a mix of my main urls as well as other related urls.

Previously, I got too greedy and tried to post 100's of bookmarks in 1-2 days and the accounts got removed at the bookmarking sites. End up wasting more time in making more accounts. I highly reccomend not to do it the way i did

Social Bookmarking Demon -
http://www.social-bookmarking-demon.com/

Anyways, I've got my copy of the software at the link that was previously post on this thread. That website offers some good bonuses...

RalphealJackson2

In My Experience I Have Found Link Dozer To Be The Best, I Have BD But I Later Discover Link Dozer And I Love It.

tzvika770

the new socialbot 4.3 is great over 1000 sites build in.
great one price.
fully automated except the capcha but not to many social web2 sites use this feature so its very fast.
i use this software to make my back-links stronger

Michael Nguyen

I was kinda shocked when I saw 1000 sites, what are you doing in terms of signing up to each site? Do it yourself or out sourcing or even just using eg 50 or 100?

Brad01Stanton

Well I got sucked into the Easter sale and bought SocialBot - waste of money. The automation it provides is minimal, I have spent more time trying to coax it to work than simply going to the sites myself and creating the link manually. I have checked the links it claimed to create and they wern't added. All in all a waste of time, I would ask for a refund - but guess what, they dont offer refunds -

Warrior Y

I have to agree with Brad01Stanton.
SocialBot is a waste of money. Don't know why there are people here saying good things about this program.
After checking my submissions, most of them weren't even added and the account creation is just amateur - no solution for captcha and many of the fields that are supposed to be filled automatically are left empty.

Blanket

We've (my company) used Bookmarking Demon since day 1. Since then we now rank #1 in Google for hundreds of keywords over our various sites.

I wouldn't use any other software to do bookmarking, BMD is simply too powerful.

Google it, try it, buy it.

You will not regret the decision.

My 2 cents.

aa411853

Why is no one using Bookmark Wiz?

nikmerchant

hi,

i would like to buy BMD next month, but you guys said that it have problems in sorting categories etc. Does the problem solved? Is it working fine right now?

I just want to know whether my investment is not a waste.. thanks

spiderhouse

I tried socialbot and am so far unimpressed - last time i buy software without a moneyback guarantee!

I am no toying between Bookmarking Demon & Bookmarkwiz

I'm not sure if one of the products has 100% of what I want...I like the "ping" on bookmarkwiz!

- Upload list of urls & bookmark X urls per session (ideally using the meta data rather than having to manually ad) is one feature I think is missing.

- regular updates as the social bookmarking sites are constantly changing & success rate drops without software updates

Does anyone have a "comparison" for each of these products? Or success rate figures?

thanks