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| Warrior of Truth War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Lee, NJ
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachwood, Ohio - near Cleveland
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Just FYI I did purchase the product and it seems to be pretty good. The thing I like is the upsell that i went for called commission crusher - since I am a newbie I am not sure if the price point is justifiable - $97 - however it does work and it works just as it says it would however I wish it were a bit more customizable if that makes any sense. However the key is will it bring traffic... We shall see, but it definitely got my blog jumping with some pretty good content via youtube, articles from article base and even Q & A from Yahoo Answers... It is supposed to drive traffic, and help to get me onto the first pages of google based on the algorithyms and back links etc., so we shall see...but so far I am really impressed with his style of teaching and he really teaches - he doesn't just talk and ramble on about a lot of personal development stuff... And I am TRULY an advocate of personal development but when I pay money to learn a new technique or installation of a new program or software, that is what I want most of the focus on... and so far he is truly over delivering... Hope this review helps |
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| IMKaren War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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I heard about this product last month and got all excited. Did a bit of research & found ALOT of negative comments about it. Do your research. You'll know that way if it's gunk or gold. |
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| | #104 |
| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010
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I am not quite sure how I got introduced to Commission Crusher. However, Steve's video altho long is very enticing. So I purchased the product; I think I paid the $47. After I watched the 3 or 4 videos I tried to figure out how to implement the product without success. I did purchase the upsell containing 20 ready made campaigns for $300. I couldn't figure out how to use them, altho maybe I was just being dumb altho I have over 20 years of computer experience. Eventually feeling very frustrated I contacted the "help" link. You go to one of the help sites where you have to register and then sign in. You are supposedly given a choice of where to send help query but there is only one category listed. My question which was not made clear in the tutorial videos was how to get your affiliate links on someone else's web page; you can't edit someone else's web page (which, of course, i the way it should be). I got a brief email back with an email address which took me to another piece of software called "Commission Worm". The way it goes is by way of a WordPress plug-in. You enter one or two keywords and the softare goes out and finds Yahoo answer sites and YouTube sites, gets them and puts them on a special page with an area for links. You get a ClickBank link and copy it for both banner ads and text ads and posts them on your site using the keywords you entered earlier. You can choose how often stuff is posted altho I am not sure that works. I forgot when i was setting it up and left time at 1 minute. I ended up with a mess. The articles were mostly poor quality as were the YouTube videos. The idea was that the site I made would get ranked high on Google, then if someone clicked on the embeded banner ads, they would go to the ClickBank link for the product you are promoting. My Opinion: I am very disappointed with this product. It does what it says (the Commission Worm part; I still don't know how to set up a campaign, let alone figure out how to use the provided campaigns that cost me $300. One comment asked about support; not good. Steve seems to be a nice young man and is a very good salesperson; his idea may be good, but implementation is very bad. There were also error messages at the bottom of my site which I didn't really understand; I didn't want to mess with the code. Bottom Line: i would not recommend that anyone purchase this product, especially the $300 upsell. Except for finding stuff to post, you don't need to spend $$$$'s for the software; you can do it yourself. After I tried it on one site where I set the time too low, it took me a long time to get the site cleaned up; basically deleting everything except the basic Socrates theme features. So do yourself a favor and do not get this package. grannydude |
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| Watching Carefully War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Contiguous US
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For those who are newbies and excited about it, I feel really bad for you. How anyone can be enthused about this product is beyond me. A good portion of the videos is him going through showing you how to download free programs to use. Really? You just spent over $300 for that and you're happy and satisfied? For the newbies, all you need to do is take away all they hype and look with your own eyes. Just pull the curtains back and you will see that it is all smoke and mirrors. You are set to loose your ass on this purchase and any money you set out to run a campaign based on his methods...if you can even figure out how to run one. | |
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| Gordon War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United Kingdom
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You know this is the basic problem with IM... It's all things to all people...like how long is a piece of string right... Guys and Gals just go through the WSO's and see what folk are saying before you take the plunge...that is if you need leading if not...just think outside the box and try different things in a small way..if it works then, scale it up... IMO just concentrate on building a responsive list of subscribers...give them value and they will stick with you...then, you can sell to your list but, make sure you offer stuff that hand on heart you know is good...research and test and repeat the process... ![]() It's not rocket science.. Have a nice weekend, Gordon. |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010
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Thanks Sonja for your reply to my post about Commission Crusher. I thought about asking for a refund and with your help, I shall do so. I should have known better; altho I've been messing with computers for a long time, I am still very much a newbie when it comes to Internet marketing. Steve is a very good salesperson and I really fell for his pitch. So thanks again for your comment. Post Script: I wrote to the "help" center again and asked questions about setting the Commission Crusher system up. The reply was to go over the videos again. No good; I had already watched the videos at least 3 times. grannydude |
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| Warrior of Truth War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Lee, NJ
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011
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Like many others, I was fool enough to get suckered by a sales letter from one of the people I have regarded as a man of integrity, simply because he had previously sold me a product which was valuable to me. I'll admit that the sales presentation by the vendor for the products was good, in that it got me to buy something. Is that good enough? I don't think so. There is a matter of business ethics and integrity. I think products should be as described. By those standards, it does not seem to me that this was a good sales presentation. The product was not as described, either in the emailed sales letter I received or in the sales videos. Neither person told me the truth, according to my view of the truth: Accurate Information. Both seemed very interested in the sale, but not in what was being sold. Regardless, I'd like to thank both parties for reminding me that the IM business is much like the Forex business. I've requested a refund, via PayPal, and via Clickbank. If unsuccessful there, I'll contact my credit card company. Sometimes I wonder how people sleep with themselves, but, apparently, that's not a problem for everyone... Never again will I buy anything related to internet marketing without first following my number one rule: Read Warrior Forum Reviews First! Sincerely, Jim |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009
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I million sites is probably enough in reality. Secondly, this is just a tool and whether you choose to use it or go through the manual method of collecting this data, the underlying idea behind it is sound. Locating and copying a winning ad is a viable strategy to save time and testing. However, just because you find an ad that has been running for several weeks or months does NOT mean that you can always make money from it, sometimes the person running the ad will take a loss or breakeven on the front end knowing that they will make money on the back. I say this because the idea that "only an idiot would continue to pay for an ad that loses money" doesn't hold up. | |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010
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I will usually wait a couple weeks before I even consider purchasing a product. If 90 to 95 percent of the reviews are positive then I will purchase. There is really no hurry, if you feel some sort of urgency BE CAREFUL THAT YOU DON'T FALL INTO A TRAP! If the product is really worth having it will work for months and at least a couple years. | |
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| | #112 |
| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA.
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Contrary to many of the reviews...I was satisfied with my purchase FOR THE SOFTWARE ALONE. I bought it - got the software, and never looked at any of the material. The software saves me a ton of time, and was well worth the price. Finding sites to place your advertisements can be HUGELY profitable if done right, and is a GREAT way to go for people that either aren't getting enough traffic the "free" way, or just don't write well enough to get good results. Like I said, I can't really speak on any of the actual "training material" because I didn't look at it, but for anyone doing this kind of advertising already, or if you are thinking about jumping into it, the tool he gives you is well worth the price. Sure you could go to 3 or 4 different sites, and get all the same information, but pushing a button saves a crap load of time. |
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| | #113 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Beautiful Colorado
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Check biznebiz post above. He is using it.
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: , , USA.
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I think it's worth buying just to see the sales process if nothing else.
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010
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I'll tell you this though, it's a great product to promote. It seems that the market is hungry for this product so if you're like me you will go to clickbank and get your hoplink. Upon my last checking is was the Top #1 Converter On CB.
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| | #116 |
| Warrior With A Skateboard War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California
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My feeling on the recent Clickbank launches is that if you have to create a blind sales page (you dont know exactly what you are getting before you buy) then the product isnt good enough to actually reveal what the product is and they are just trying to get your money on the front end so they can cash in on the backend. #JustSayin
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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because he says "WINNING DONE FOR YOU CAMPAIGNS" and I only have to plug in my aff link!! RUBBISH. I don't care if he has good 'sales copy' (Video) or not - he did not give me 10 campaigns - I have to do them and test the waters! I told Clickbank I'll keep it if he does it for me! Why must we tolerate this hype! Go back to all his videos - extremely overhyped...
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| | #118 |
| Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona City, Arizona
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Bought the program and I bought the 10 Campaigns Done for You, where all i was suppose to do what put in my affiliate ID? NOT! Commission Worm. Well I cannot say if it works or not yet? I am getting refund. Glad to be a member of WF! I will look here before I buy from now on! |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: America, looking for the best state to live in
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Using blind and/or deceptive advertising to attract customers is hardly unique to youth. I'd hazard a guess that at least 25% of the older "seasoned pros" selling here through WSOs and other methods are in exactly the same boat. Yes, that's a really high number (though I've seen other people claim much higher percentages) but any place there is an opportunity to make a quick buck using Hype and Jive, its going to attract the less ethical "vendors" to take advantage as long as they can. Though forums like this can help, I don't see it diminishing soon, because far too few people read these review threads, and many of those buy anyway because they think someone may be "bashing" the seller... [sigh] Don't blame it on the "kids". They learned it by watching and emulating some of the most experienced "pros" out there. | |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: America, looking for the best state to live in
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I think this sort of attitude is exactly part of the problem. You've essentially said that even though the product is bad (and has high refunds already) that it is good to promote because people are buying it. Personally, I don't want my name associated with garbage, and as a result, don't promote products I haven't purchased and use. If nothing else, it's the ethical thing to do. Yes, I'd like to make a lot more money, but I want to do so by providing a useful service, not by clinging to a product that is essentially ripping people off through hype and mis-representation. It's too bad there are so many people that will provide false reviews (essentially re-formatted sales copy) and promote products without any knowledge of the product or whether it is effective at all, just to make a buck. Making money with IM is a huge market, and will probably continue to be, but something has to change or its going to be nearly impossible for honest folk to make a living with it. That's not to say there aren't problems in other niches (don't get me started on snake oil supplements) but at least they don't push so hard with the blind sales copy... "Grandpa, why do you drink whiskey and smoke cigars? -- It keeps the worms away. But Grandma says you don't have worms... -- See, it works!" | |
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| Improvement junkie War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle, Wa.
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| Really-are you a masochist? I don't mind being insulted-if it's funny, (Rich Jerk always made me laugh when he called us all "losers"), but this guy, try as he does, isn't the least bit funny-lame speech, and a voice like nails on a chalkboard. Even without the unfunny, faux arrogant insult humor, this type of sales page is soooo tired. Seriously, how many times have you seen the pitch about a revolutionary "secret software that makes me 200k+ a month at the push of a button", with the back-story about how "I just ripped off the evil guru that doesn't really want his buyers to succeed, but I outsmarted him and got him to reveal...."? Enough to never want to see it again? Me too. Although I have to admit that one of them was pretty funny-maybe you saw the one where the evil guru was stupidly (conveniently) carrying his multi-million dollar software disc around in his coat pocket during a night of drinking, and our guy sees it fall out of his pocket, steals it, and is now helping us all get back at the big boys by letting 500 of us have it for only $37. Nice guy-a thief, but nice. (How generous is it that he takes time out of his button pushing schedule [each push makes 10K+], to create an elaborate sale funnel, only to limit it so severely that he won't even clear $10K on the campaign, after paying affiliates-pretty close to a break-even for him, I guess because he doesn't need the money-just wants to help 500 losers finally get rich online?) Following the miraculous software pitch with "I just want to help people, and I'm slamming the door shut after 500 are sold"; he's just provided the only real undeniable proof on the page-not proof of how rich the software is making him, but proof that you just can't trust a word out of his mouth. Hope it works for some of you, but I guess I'll stick to buying from people who haven't shown me they're liars within 10 seconds of hitting the sales page. Sorry for the rant, but I'm tired of the charlatans that take us all for gullible childish dreamers cluttering the IM space. Here's my (top secret-from a former internet millionaire, turned Tibetan monk I had to go on a ten day trek over the icy crevasses of the Himalayan range to find), formula for saving a lot of time in my quest for online wealth; are you ready for me to give it away FREE!? Here goes: repeat this magic mantra 10 times every morning, noon, and night, while doing a headstand, and tugging your right earlobe with your left hand: "THERE IS NO EASY BUTTON-NO SECRET THE EVIL GURUS DON"T WANT ME TO KNOW. IF ANYONE SAYS THERE IS, I PROMISE MYSELF TO CLICK AWAY WITHOUT DROOLING OR BUYING, AND GET BACK TO BUILDING MY BIZ!" |
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