GeorgR.

It seems to be common understanding that SENuke is the "king" of SEO software, and to a certain degree i want to agree. But i also have big criticism.

The strength of SEnuke at the same time also is its weakness.

I am talking about the modularity, SEnuke is NO "push a button" software.

Senuke *requires* that you have a link strategy before you use it. The user needs to know what modules to use, when and how and why.

This means if you don't study some good SEnuke strategies/courses and really UNDERSTAND what it does and some essentials of good link strategy, SENuke wont be much of use.

So..on one hand this is a huge PLUS since this allows huge flexibility. You have the modules like web2.0 nuke, RSS Nuke, Profile Nuke etc. and its on you to use them in an intelligent way.

But this flexibility and power comes with a price. In all honesty, SEnuke is not an easy tool to use, by a long shot.

To me it AMOST looks like that effective use of Senuke has way too much overhead so you cannot speak anymore of an "automation software", especially if you want to use in for more advanced tasks, eg. making some more intelligent linking structures. (As opposed to simply blasting and then bookmarking, RSS nuking).

In fact, its SO darn involved that i constantly wish i could outsource all this. (I know other people think the same thing). While it DOES save a lot of time its simply too involved and time consuming, IMO.

Then there is other SEO software which "basically" does the same thing like SENuke, but which is way easier to use, for example XGen Seo.

But here is the problem that the easyness of eg. XgenSEO is also its weakness. It is way less flexible in WHAT it does and how you can combine the tasks.

My wish:

Senuke as easy to use as XgenSEo - respective XgenSEO having SOME of the features of Senuke. Either way. For example placeholders to use in XgenSeo like "randurls" or "lasturls" would already be HUGE.

I have to say that playing around with Senuke made me realize the huge potential, but at the same time also turned me off big time. (I dont even mention some bugs/weird things...like posting the same article 5 times to thoughts.com with totally wrong/messed up tags etc.. this simply should NOT happen.)


Just my $0.02

Add: As it stands, i would chose XgenSEO over Senuke *IF* they add more placeholders which could be used in articles, eg. for interlinking articles. This should be VERY, VERY easy to implement and is needed, IMO. Removal of critical Bugs in XGENSeo like trying to RSS submit/bookmark the SAME (!) URl over and over.

MULTIPLE accounts/login rotation for submission...not only using ONE login <--- !

If they do this XGenSeo has a very good chance to compete and even surpass SENuke.

And as for SENuke:

Senuke people need to realize that they are not the only SEo software available anymore. The price of SENuke might be legit - but then please dont do stupid things like multiple submissions...and add ESSENTIAL features like better reporting/resuming of taks...."natural looking" profile creation with choice of user pictures etc.. which could be expected if we are already in such a price range. There is no point in spending $170/month on "automation software" and then STILL needing to think about outsourcing since its use is still too time consuming and involved.

Whether Senuke X will address those issues, i dont know.

Joe Russell

Hey George, I think you will find that SEnukeX will address all your concerns and then some

Joe Russell

GeorgR.

I just read a pre-view of the features of X, and yes...EXACTLY what i have in mind. Graphically designing a linking structure...awesome.

Joe Russell

The designer is one of the things we are just finishing testing on and it's also one of the features I am most excited about...it's unreal! A video overview of this feature will be available to members in the next couple days.

Joe

Focused Action

The other option is SEO Link Robot which right now is still a one time payment of $157 - they will be adding a monthly fee soon - there is a thread with very positive reviews.

The other problem with all these kind of software programs is that users tend to not really have a well thought out and structured process / plan. They tend to just "nuke" stuff all over the net and hope for the best. Myself included!

I am really trying to compile a solid plan and create a checklist, for each project I am targeting, and then be consistent each month.

MikeFriedman

That is where many people fail, whether they are using software like SEOLR, SEnuke, Magic Submitter, etc., or doing everything by hand. They have no plan. They just start creating sites and backlinks all over the place. They also do very little to monitor their results.

Chris Sorrell

Magic submitter has a great diverse selection of links and is very easy to use. I highly recommend it. My setup is as follows and it works pretty well -

Magic submitter - does video subs, bookmarking links, expression engine forums, web 2.0, wordpress blogs, articles, status.net microblogs etc

Sick submitter - just load up your own link packets - great customisable tool and an excellent price

Manual or outsourced edu and .gov links as well as manual high pr forums. Doesnt' take that long.

If a lot of competition then I can outsource the rest - so I may do 'intelligent' xrumer blasts and around 1500 unique article submissions. Plus, various other free sources where you can get a couple thousand links pretty easily.

OrganicSeoGuru

Hey Joe, We Have Been Waiting For SeNuke X Since Longer Than Most of us can remember... (That non stop promise and stringing us along while charging us full pop is what has destroyed much of yours and Areebs cred, and you know it)

Bottomline, SeNuke is only a small smart of a much bigger strategy, yes it takes time to learn and time to use.

A ton of your created accounts will be deleted ( the sites are obviously able to recognize the SeNuke footprints)

I always use my own private proxies, emails on my own domains, cleared caches, etc

Here is a test that you need to do yourself.

Create all the accounts with SeNuke

Manually create the same set of accounts

Don't post anything, wait 72 hours and see how many of the Nuke created sites have been banned, deleted, etc

Your Manually created accounts will still be alive 9 times out of 10.

Obviously use a set of controls for both to ensure you're playing fair.

As far as I am concerned one of the Reasons SeNuke still works well for mid tier keywords is the following:

95% of the people using it don't actually know how to use it.


If you really want to have some success you need to really spin the hell out of your content, with CChoice and HTML spinning, etc

(Rants almost Over)

Now I feel myself that I fit into the 5% of people that actually does know how and when to use it. I spent honestly probably around 200 hours really getting to understand the complexity of the system and what other tools need to be used with the system and when.

I have My set up run as auto as possible, I have every step planned out 30 days in advance and in the last 12 months have made in the neighborhood of 400K in affiliate commissions with the use of the software, (not promoting SeNuke itself though)

It might also help that I am a professional SEO,

Bottom-line, just like any of the hype out there, its not "push button"
But if you take the time to learn and experience the process you have a good chance of making a profit.

Now to the price factor, it all depends on how you look at things, but truthfully even though it feels like abandonwear at times, $127 a month is a very reasonable price point, just don't have unreasonable expectations.