Dean Holland's Commission Takeover

Profile picture of the author airbusbarkley by airbusbarkley Posted: 02/24/2011
Anyone try this yet? If so, any details or a review would be appreciated. How many upsells are there?

Thanks.
#commission #dean #holland #takeover

  • Profile picture of the author John34
    John34
    I am also looking for reviews for this product.
  • Profile picture of the author sanhal
    sanhal
    I just read a review on it here by a guy who claims to know Dean quite well.

    Looks like pretty basic stuff to me with the first module going through how to set up your blog and then on to getting free traffic and building a list of subscribers.

    Would be interested to see what upsells there are. That's probably where you get to the meaty stuff.

    Sandy
  • Profile picture of the author JMSD
    JMSD
    Originally Posted by airbusbarkley View Post
    Anyone try this yet? If so, any details or a review would be appreciated. How many upsells are there?

    Thanks.
    Just bought this but download page link returns an error. Link provided by Clickbank leads to the first upsell page which then leads to umpteen upsell pages which then lead to the error page.

    I lost count of the upsells after the first four. At least, there was a "No thanks" option below each upsell sales video.

    Emailed both Dean and Clickbank for a working link but losing patience, fast.

    If this is nothing more than blog set up and list building, then what's new? Still, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt before throwing in the towel.

    Will keep you updated, if I get access.
  • Profile picture of the author cjr126
    cjr126
    i'm starting to believe that all internet marketing programs are a scam .. the sales pages are nothing more than a lot of fake clickbank screenshots followed by the usual talk of how you shouldn't listen to the "guru's" and how pissed they're gonna be when they release their product.

    they all rant and rave about some new mystery free traffic source that's a complete and total lie along with the same old tired ass scarcity tactics and of course the unbelievable low price of $47 which we all know is going to be accompanied by several upsells which are generally 4 to 5 times the amount of the original product and even more worthless

    its kind of interesting how none of them and i mean none of them ever have 1 word of substance in their sales pages or sales videos just a bunch of rehashed garbage and talk of the $1,000's they make daily from affiliate marketing .. oh and we all know that they don't make any money besides peddling their own worthless products to people who are desperate and down on their luck hoping and praying for a way to earn some income to pay their bills.

    the next time i see a real honest to goodness product which actually has some merit to it and actually teaches you how to make money on the internet will also be the first.

    i challenge all of these people to teach me how to earn a living.

    but i'm sure i'll have a better chance at winning this weeks powerball lottery or waiting for hell to freeze over than i do of finding an honest internet marketer

    chris
  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    Jeremy Kelsall
    Originally Posted by cjr126 View Post
    i'm starting to believe that all internet marketing programs are a scam .. the sales pages are nothing more than a lot of fake clickbank screenshots followed by the usual talk of how you shouldn't listen to the "guru's" and how pissed they're gonna be when they release their product.

    they all rant and rave about some new mystery free traffic source that's a complete and total lie along with the same old tired ass scarcity tactics and of course the unbelievable low price of $47 which we all know is going to be accompanied by several upsells which are generally 4 to 5 times the amount of the original product and even more worthless

    its kind of interesting how none of them and i mean none of them ever have 1 word of substance in their sales pages or sales videos just a bunch of rehashed garbage and talk of the $1,000's they make daily from affiliate marketing .. oh and we all know that they don't make any money besides peddling their own worthless products to people who are desperate and down on their luck hoping and praying for a way to earn some income to pay their bills.

    the next time i see a real honest to goodness product which actually has some merit to it and actually teaches you how to make money on the internet will also be the first.

    i challenge all of these people to teach me how to earn a living.

    but i'm sure i'll have a better chance at winning this weeks powerball lottery or waiting for hell to freeze over than i do of finding an honest internet marketer

    chris


    First of all, you have every right to be pissed off, if you are reading a new sales page everyday, or even every so often only to find out that the product doesn't match up with the copy either in what the product actually is, or in the potential results it can deliver.

    I'm sure someone will come along and say "your not their target market" and they might be right, but if we are all honest here - they aren't targeting a market...they are targeting opportunity seekers, and at the end of the day, I think at least to some extent, we are all opportunity seekers.

    The disconnection between the sales copy and some of these products is borderline criminal - I'm not talking about this product as I havn't seen it...so, I'll leave that judgment to someone else.

    Making money on the internet is EASY...but, it also takes a bit of work, and the ability to push through the days, and sometimes weeks or even months where you don't experience the success you are looking for...many don't have that ability, which is what makes the current style of sales copy so appealing and SO SUCCESSFUL.

    The majority of people don't want to hear the realities when it comes to what you have to do to make money online. If you don't have connections, access to a list, or an ace in the hole somewhere, getting ramped up SUCKS.

    When I started, I was pounding out 15 - 20 articles A DAY which definitely wasn't pleasant now that I think about it, BUT it did earn me $2,000 my first month out...I would imagine many others started the same way, and had the same results.

    Since then, I've made money with:

    PPC - I lost $3,000 before I had a profitable campaign on my hands.

    Media Buying - My first media buy saw me lost $15,000, but now I can buy media profitably almost like clock work.

    If I were to tell someone to do good keyword research and write 15 articles a day, they would tell me to go **** myself.

    If I told someone to get a couple thousand dollars together that they were willing to lose to test PPC or media buys, they would tell me to go **** myself.

    BUT

    That's how you get started.

    Are there short cuts? ABSOLUTELY. Pick what kind of business model you want to be involved in, and then seek out people that are experts and get free info from them, and buy info from them when you have to in the form of coaching or products.

    INSTEAD OF buying into a different pipe dream every day about some new traffic source that turns out to be Yahoo Answers!, Article directories, or some other retarded thing.

    As marketers, product creators are going to continue putting products in front of you day after day after day...If they won't tell you what it is - DON'T BUY IT. If it doesn't fit into your business model - DON'T BUY IT.

    I guess this reply really isn't aimed at the person I quoted - More of a random posting to the market in general...the people that buy these products after being bent over time and time again are every bit as much to blame as the people selling the actual products.

    I guarantee that if the market starts to say: "I'm not buying this stuff unless you tell me what it is" The sales pages will start to be a bit more "accurate"...if the masses continue to be willing to blindly pay...marketers will continue to blindly sell...it's easy money.

    The market as a whole to be so jaded that they call legitimate products scams and worthless just because they are being conditioned to think everything that is for sale or being launched is garbage...garbage that they can't help but to buy...whether they need it or not...whether it will be useful to them or not.

    If you're out there struggling to make it online - CALL A DO OVER. Start from scratch again:

    1. Pick a business model
    2. Start to work that business model
    3. Find for fee or buy information that relates to THAT BUSINESS MODEL
    4. Beat the hell out of THAT BUSINESS MODEL
    5. Profit
  • Profile picture of the author cjr126
    cjr126
    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post
    First of all, you have every right to be pissed off, if you are reading a new sales page everyday, or even every so often only to find out that the product doesn't match up with the copy either in what the product actually is, or in the potential results it can deliver.

    I'm sure someone will come along and say "your not their target market" and they might be right, but if we are all honest here - they aren't targeting a market...they are targeting opportunity seekers, and at the end of the day, I think at least to some extent, we are all opportunity seekers.

    The disconnection between the sales copy and some of these products is borderline criminal - I'm not talking about this product as I havn't seen it...so, I'll leave that judgment to someone else.

    Making money on the internet is EASY...but, it also takes a bit of work, and the ability to push through the days, and sometimes weeks or even months where you don't experience the success you are looking for...many don't have that ability, which is what makes the current style of sales copy so appealing and SO SUCCESSFUL.

    The majority of people don't want to hear the realities when it comes to what you have to do to make money online. If you don't have connections, access to a list, or an ace in the hole somewhere, getting ramped up SUCKS.

    When I started, I was pounding out 15 - 20 articles A DAY which definitely wasn't pleasant now that I think about it, BUT it did earn me $2,000 my first month out...I would imagine many others started the same way, and had the same results.

    Since then, I've made money with:

    PPC - I lost $3,000 before I had a profitable campaign on my hands.

    Media Buying - My first media buy saw me lost $15,000, but now I can buy media profitably almost like clock work.

    If I were to tell someone to do good keyword research and write 15 articles a day, they would tell me to go **** myself.

    If I told someone to get a couple thousand dollars together that they were willing to lose to test PPC or media buys, they would tell me to go **** myself.

    BUT

    That's how you get started.

    Are there short cuts? ABSOLUTELY. Pick what kind of business model you want to be involved in, and then seek out people that are experts and get free info from them, and buy info from them when you have to in the form of coaching or products.

    INSTEAD OF buying into a different pipe dream every day about some new traffic source that turns out to be Yahoo Answers!, Article directories, or some other retarded thing.

    As marketers, product creators are going to continue putting products in front of you day after day after day...If they won't tell you what it is - DON'T BUY IT. If it doesn't fit into your business model - DON'T BUY IT.

    I guess this reply really isn't aimed at the person I quoted - More of a random posting to the market in general...the people that buy these products after being bent over time and time again are every bit as much to blame as the people selling the actual products.

    I guarantee that if the market starts to say: "I'm not buying this stuff unless you tell me what it is" The sales pages will start to be a bit more "accurate"...if the masses continue to be willing to blindly pay...marketers will continue to blindly sell...it's easy money.

    The market as a whole to be so jaded that they call legitimate products scams and worthless just because they are being conditioned to think everything that is for sale or being launched is garbage...garbage that they can't help but to buy...whether they need it or not...whether it will be useful to them or not.

    If you're out there struggling to make it online - CALL A DO OVER. Start from scratch again:

    1. Pick a business model
    2. Start to work that business model
    3. Find for fee or buy information that relates to THAT BUSINESS MODEL
    4. Beat the hell out of THAT BUSINESS MODEL
    5. Profit

    kudos jeremy for an excellent reply .. i agree 100% that idiots like myself have nobody to blame but ourselves and if we want to put an end to this nonsense than we should just stop buying in and maybe they'll get the hint

    i think one of my biggest pet peeves that i forgot to mention was that after selling you on their so called "business in a box" that works with only 6 clicks of a mouse and how its going to change your life forever .. no sooner do they finish upselling you telling you that if you really want the program to work you will buy the upsells .. the very next day these people are sending you emails promoting someone elses product probably one of the guru's they claim to hate so much .. i mean if their product is everything they say it is why the need to send me email everyday of the week promoting someone else's get rich quick scheme

    anyways thanks for your incite and honesty .. it's greatly appreciated

    chris
  • Profile picture of the author theredcell
    theredcell
    Jeremy hit the nail on the head when he said that if a sales letter DOESN'T tell you what it is they want you to buy, DON'T BUY. Collectively, if we all start to do this it will hopefully put these so called 'gurus' on notice.

    Anything I buy now I wait for reviews and/or recommendations. Check out Jeremy's blog sometime. He writes honest reviews and produces products himself without the need to over hype.

    As Jeremy stated above, pick a business model and hammer away. I knew my copy writing skills were very weak so I am now studying how to write copy. It's an investment in time but it keeps me away from checking out every 'so called' shiny distraction that comes along.

    As an added note, if your inbox is getting hit with constant promotions, un-subscribe from all these list. I've been checking out reviews for products and when a so called scam product is revealed, I'll un-subscribe from those list that promoted those products. You can always setup a marketing only email that you can check ocassionally. At least it will be your way to study how people are using email marketing.

    Jose
  • Profile picture of the author dean_holland
    dean_holland
    Hi everyone

    This is the first spare minute I've had to come and check in here.

    Regarding the issue mentioned above, I do apologize, during the night (UK time) there was an issue with the membership script redirecting wrongly.

    It was resolved earlier on this morning, hope you received my emails :-)

    I have to say the best (and only constructive) comment in here really is Jeremy's.

    I've learned to not actually get too affected by what some people say, especially when it's not true at all.

    It's taken me a LONG time to get where I am and actually start making a good living online.

    I'm not the type of guy releasing something every month or 2.

    There was a comment above about my system being basic. My answer to that is I hope it is!

    Do you know how many people I see saying a comment such as that when they have made little or no money online themselves...

    Maybe I have it wrong, maybe people want something that sounds amazing and complex and pretty to look at. Personally I wish before I got into $60,000 of debt prior to my success that someone broke everything down for me into simple pieces.

    I'd actually like to draw the attention of commenter cjr126 to this:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ey-online.html

    That's my post here back in 2008 when I first EVER made money online.

    For the record. I SPECIFICALLY chose not to make my sales copy blind. There's even a breakdown of the modules

    And yes they do not exactly tell you whats involved, you want the TRUTHFUL reason why??

    It's because its people like you Chris that clearly have already made your mind up what the product is or is not before you see it.

    Lets say for example if I said I had a training on blogging. Would you think "Ah GREAT I want to learn this" ... Or would you think "Ah I've heard it all before"

    I reckon it's the later... which is VERY wrong!

    I've worked my ass off now for years, in the last 2 years things have really paid off.

    I've learned what to do to actually make money, and how to do certain things well.

    If I'm wrong for sharing that with people to help them then fine I'm wrong.

    If however by visiting my page and saying my screen shots are fake and I'm a scammer then fine, pass me by and continue doing what it is you wish.

    Personally I enjoy nowthing more than looking back at things such as that WF post I have shown you above and thinking "Yes I really finally managed to make it"

    For the record, I could have got my hands on any number of HUGE screen shots if I wanted to be fake, but it's just not me. So I showed my actual achievements.

    Showing you me making $2,000 a week on CB is not a big screen shot in comparision to a lot of the pages online.

    I know it's har dto know who to trust Chris, maybe like me you've ben burned a lot of times, maybe also like I used to be your stuck in a routine of being a 'buyer' and not a real go-getter that implements.

    Whether it be with my training or someone elses, Chris you have to learn a good system to making money online and actually implement it.

    Wish you every success

    Thanks

    Dean
  • Profile picture of the author dean_holland
    dean_holland
    Sorry I forgot to mention something I believe is important to anyone starting out or not yet getting too far...

    There's a comment above that says something like "what's new about this?"

    I think this is a key issue within IM... What 'NEW' things do you want?

    I think if you find yourself thinking that then you need to ask yourself why it's the same methods you keep hearing about, such as list building

    Maybe it's because it works ... ?

    I remember WAYYY before I finally made money I always used to hear marketers say... It's all about traffic and conversions

    Or the famous... the money is in the list

    Did I listen back then? haha, did I heck...

    You know what I realise now... A lot of it is all about traffic and conversions

    And guess what... The money is in the list!

    If only I had stopped searching for something 'new' or something to make me rich quick sooner

    I guess we all have to learn, my learning curve was very expensive. There's a few key things that are not new, they are old...

    So why do the most successful people still use them?

    I'll leave you guys to decide

    Dean
  • Profile picture of the author LarryTosten
    LarryTosten
    Purchased a copy so I could post a review but when I finally got to the member's area login it asked for email and password. Since I never was given the opportunity to choose a password I waited at least 15 minutes for one to arrive via email (never received one). Then since the only email address that I entered in during the checkout process was during clickbank's checkout I tried entering that email and selected the "forgot password" option only to be told "User doesn't exist".
    Did anybody test the checkout process prior to this thing going live?
    Has anybody else here successfully purchased this product and got into the member's area?
  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    David Chamberlain
    Hey Larry!

    The checkout process should work perfectly, it has been fully tested.

    We use DAP which should email you access details as soon as you purchase. I will check what has happened and get this sorted ASAP.

    Thanks

    David
  • Profile picture of the author JamesHughes
    JamesHughes
    Balls to what other people say Dean - I truly believe that what you are saying works.
    Keep building on that 600K.

    Cheers
  • Profile picture of the author LarryTosten
    LarryTosten
    Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post
    Hey Larry!

    The checkout process should work perfectly, it has been fully tested.

    We use DAP which should email you access details as soon as you purchase. I will check what has happened and get this sorted ASAP.

    Thanks

    David
    Sent my clickbank receipt details to support@deanholland.com

    Looking forward to receiving the information
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
    Jason Fladlien
    I've had the pleasure of working with Dean and he is good people in my book. I haven't had a chance to look at this product but I did a launch for Dean last year and I thoroughly reviewed the content he had there and it was top notch so I'd expect this product to
    be more of the same.
  • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
    templarjustice
    Let's cut the crap. 15 (now 16 posts) and not one review.
    No one cares about whether or not the product owner is a good person, or a persons personal feelings of what they "think" the product is, or the ridiculous "take action", and "start from the beginning" message that is starting to surface.

    Dammit, people want a review & they want ANSWERS.
    People want:
    1. To know if the sales page matches the product
    2. To know if the product is working - meaning that a dummy can implement what is being presented and that results can be produce
    3. To know the details of the transactions that are being claimed
    4. To know the DETAILS of the story of the rise of the product owners success -- Not some glazed over story, but intricate details. Dean has stated an example of a post he made in 2008 here on the forum. I wonder if that is mentioned in the product, or a historical outline of that day to today is presented. That's what people want to know.
    5. To know if RESULTS can be achieved in a faster period of time than which Dean has undergone himself. This is slightly the claim made in the sales page, however, HERE, it seems squashed by having statements such as, well we have to learn & my learning was expensive -- therefore, learning how to set up a wordpress blog will allow a person to achieve $600k? C'mon!!!

    Right now, I just don't get it. People are angry. People are demanding more. People have already gained a certain level of knowledge of the basics. People want better answers than, "Take Action" and "Build a list".

    People want NUMBERS. Specifics. Details.
    They want to know expenses that are incurred. They want MORE than a cop-off of a product that was created 6 months ago, with a new face & a smile.

    You don't believe people are pissed? Then take a look at the sales page where there are tons of facebook comments made by people who are finally standing up & saying they are heated. They don't believe. 99% of this is NOT Deans fault, but more of what has happened in the market.

    But for here, right now, this forum needs a review of this product in its entirety. To judge whether or not it's a purchase that will allow a person to achieve the results as what the producer has achieved.

    So far, the ONLY thing that we know about this product is the following:

    1. Bad Purchase Flow Experience: Once a person has purchased, you have issues with logging in. People are tired of that B.S. - I mean $600k & $xx,xxxx per month -- I would immediately FIRE the tech support person OR DEMAND that DAP membership plugin provide a high level of customer service (If that's truly the plugin that is being isued)

    Another thing, I seriously hate when people come by & say, this has been tested & this is working. If a CUSTOMER has purchased & made a claim. The FIRST thing that should be stated is that, "We will look into it immediately!" If a customer has an issue....then it's an issue! Fix the issue!

    2. Angry pre-leads on the site demanding a quality product.

    3. That's all we know so far.....
  • Profile picture of the author marlon
    marlon
    Hi,

    I haven't bought Dean's product yet but plan to.

    Most years I spend $30,000 to $40,000 just buying stuff to
    stay informed. Everything from $5 wso's on up. I've probably
    bought from people on this thread.

    I think the "ripoff" threads are mostly overdone and an excuse for
    not wanting to spend money on self education. Not that some of the
    CB products don't suck. They do. You know, if you haven't figured
    that out yet....I have some land in Florida for you. I've ALSO bought
    some great info products on CB like Winter and Corey's Copy Paste
    Traffic.

    Most people think it should all be free or for 5 bucks on WSO's.
    There are some really very, very good wso's. But there's also some
    very high quality info that will cost you a good chunk.

    That's the price of success. Of course, I started many years ago in
    the inner circle of mail order spending $5 there. You got 1000 x for
    your money. But I still learned things. I still remember what I learned
    from a 10 page report I spent 10 bucks for in 1979.

    ALL I ask of an info product creator is:

    1. They tell the truth about how much they've made

    2. They have full disclosure (or reasonably so) on HOW they
    made the money

    Whether or not I like or agree with what they say is totally irrelevant.
    I'm buying their experiences. That's all I buy. And if they show what
    they did to get a result and they show an honest result, that's the end
    of their obligation.

    I think Dean was worked his tail end off to get the specialized info
    it takes to cash in during the past 2 years.

    For him to be willing to share that at a fair price is a gift.

    I've paid as much as $500 for 1 page of information. It's all
    relative.

    Right now, if you own a mortgage, you've paid $100,000+ for
    ONE sheet of paper...well maybe 2 or 3.

    I wish people would focus less on "ripoffs" and more on all the
    great info and techniques that actually DO exist.

    Oh, Jeremy tells it straight up too. I've bought his products.
    Not a big fan of SE Nuke but you know what? Jeremy revealed
    what he did and how he did it. That was awesome. That's all I
    ask and all anyone should ask.

    Best wishes,

    Marlon
  • Profile picture of the author LarryTosten
    LarryTosten
    I actually purchased the product and had a look over the videos. And here's my honest review.

    1. To cut to the chase this product primarily is about blogging. But doing so in a way that doesn't have you appearing as a money hungry person that is trying to milk your followers for every nickle they have.

    2. Dean seems very sincere and is very easy to understand in his videos. The sales page actually tells you what you're going to get not what the product isn't like so many to hit the market lately.

    3. I didn't see any new groundbreaking information anywhere but I did like his approach of being total above board on aspects of this business model. Following his walkthroughs allows you to be yourself not hiding behind some alias or pen name. He does seem to provide all the necessary information needed to succeed using his methods

    4. I felt this is more for someone fairly new to internet marketing, although even some experienced marketers could find some wisdom on his particular business practices.

    5. I bought this through my own link at a price of $37 vice $47 (I'm sure everybody knows how to do that... if you can't, try closing your browser and reloading it) So at $37 with my commission being $16.61, it only really cost me $20.39

    Video times:
    Module 1 - 57:33
    Module 2 - 10:17 (but 3 videos still have to be uploaded
    Module 3 - 48:07
    Module 4 - 38:04
    Module 5 - 43:50
    Module 6 - 20:11

    Now the negatives:
    1. There are a series of 3 upsells and 3 downsells - rather annoying

    2. I had to email support to get access (but in all fairness they responding within a couple of hours)

    3. Fast Action Bonus #2 and #3 aren't in the member's area even though the videos say that they are... hopefully they'll fix that soon

    4. Your hosting isn't free, it actually cost 9$/month with his recommended service. Most of us probably have our own so that doesn't really matter as you're not forced to use his hosting.

    5. You will need an autoresponder account. Again most of us have that.

    6. There are 3 videos in Module 2 that are not posted as of right now (It says they are trying to fix it).

    7. This is a minor point but the "Process Maps" show an icon for an Adobe PDF file but are actually jpg's (and very large jpg's where you have to scroll around even on a 27" monitor)

    8. All of the videos are not downloadable, you have to view online. I can definitely see the advantage to this for those that would download everything and then request a refund. Also there are no "written" manuals or instructions. So you'll be watching the videos online and taking notes.

    With all that said, at a real cost to me of $20.39, I'll be keeping the product because I'm sure they are going to fix the problems above and I just have this gut feeling that Dean is one of the good guys out there teaching honesty and transparency on your marketing endevours.
  • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
    templarjustice
    primarily is about blogging --That's all?

    Are there examples of "blogs" that he is blogging on ? Are there specific sites or details that "HE" is actually using? Or is there the ol' "here's how you create a dog training niche blog example?"
    Are there actual stats being shown by these blogging activities?


    But I digress, maybe it's about deanholland.com which has aided in the $600k & $110k in 30 days....that blog has only 74 blog posts since 2008. And about ZERO in 2011. So, hopefully, we can gain some insight into what types of blogs were created & used.....IF this course is truly "primarily about blogging".


  • Profile picture of the author Gouldmine
    Gouldmine
    Originally Posted by LarryTosten View Post
    1. There are a series of 3 upsells and 3 downsells - rather annoying
    OK could you tell us what the upsells were?

    Were they a useful addition or a neccessity to succeed with the training?

  • Profile picture of the author LarryTosten
    LarryTosten
    Originally Posted by Gouldmine View Post
    OK could you tell us what the upsells were?

    Were they a useful addition or a neccessity to succeed with the training?

    Sorry I can't because I just click past them pretty quickly. I logged into the members area and they aren't offering them there.

    I hate upsells/downsells because if the offer can do everything they promise on the sales page then why should I have to purchase additional items to make it happen.

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