Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis

I know from experience, even when I chose to participate in discussions of my own products, which I work very hard on btw.. In a couple of my review threads, the thread ends up looking like Im arguing with myself because the person "reviewing my salespage" was abusive, was kicked off the forum and all of his posts erased leaving me getting all pissed off post after post. LOL

Clickbank is actually very careful about approving salespages, especially in the IM niche. All of those pages you see up there, commission crusher, etc check out and the verbiage is proper! If its a clickbank site, and they bill you without you knowing, or the product doesnt match the members area, CB can kick off the vendor so you better believe all those sites on there are legit. Vendors know what they are doing (For the most part) Think about it. When a Vendor is getting ready for a launch, and anticipating 20,000 units being sold the first week, CB is up their (you know what) with a magnifying glass.

This is why (In comparison to alot of the scams out there) alot of the complaining on this forum is either obviously emotional stuff, OR just misinformed individuals. Most of the "complaints" seem to occur from people who haven't even bought the product and just assume its fraudulent, when if you ever met Mansour, the kid is DEFINITELY someone you either want to A. Know, B. Learn from C. buy his product. You are lucky to have guys like Mansour that publish material and their secrets so you can learn from it and use it. And we all know you can get a refund if you dont like it so whats the beef? Its obviously emotions. Look at some of the comments in this thread, they are utterly ridiculous. "I refunded 4 other products before I bought this one." and "There were 3 upsells!" Wow. You arent forced to buy the upsell. What is the logic behind being upset at an upsell.. You know what? Perhaps STOP BUYING PRODUCTS ALTOGETHER AND GET TO WORK!

If you publish stuff on Clickbank and you get more than 100 gravity, you better believe those emotions come up.. the envy, etc.

But with that being said.. to the people who compulsively purchase.. BE CAREFUL. Coaching, SEO services, email blasts.. I myself tried out an email marketing company RECENTLY and they charged me $850. Ok.. Then two weeks later another $850, then another $850 until they had racked up $3500! I had to get a new credit card because they kept billing me $850 and wouldn't stop after I talked to them on the phone 5 times!! LOL

After you purchase Mansour's thing or my thing, stay in control of your business and dont spend big money on stuff.

There have been some really big scams lately and Im talking about the work at home coaching stuff, business opportunities, etc. Bad. If you are asked to "pay" for a job, its BS. Does not exist.

Internet marketing products on Clickbank are good, because most are built for intermediates and have information that you cant find for free AND you know you can get a refund from clickbank if it does suck.

If there ever was a problem with the overall business practices of the vendor, it would probably be that they are breaking the law outside of clickbank with other sites or practices, outside of clickbank's control, although cats on WF seem to not even pay attention to the real problems online, problems that are so big & bad they effect us all.

>> You can spot a "real scammer" by clicking on his links, do they work? Is the site out of date? This can sometimes indicate HE IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. This is a sign that they are too greedy and "cutting corners." If they are cutting corners on the front end, they are probably REALLY cutting corners on the backend, where you are learning how to do it, etc. It might waste your time if the instruction is bad too.

But on clickbank, you know that its unlikely to happen in the immediate members area, funnel, etc and if a vendor ever did break the rules you can refund. I would really focus on the members areas more. Stop getting pissed at sales pages, its like a diversion. And give it a fair shot. These members areas we are talking about are definitely worth $47.

People just really seem to focus on the sales page which is accepted by CB. I would say the most "borderline" stuff are the earnings claims, but its an internet marketing product and if you ever had one, youd see all the customer service emails asking to see "proof." Its like selling your website, if you dont disclose the financials, its a dead stick. But again, I dont hear about that ever, its more like "If he really made that money that way, etc." Yes, these guys make big money that way. Believe me, you need to be extremely smart and responsible for alot of aspects in business to get a site to the first page of clickbank with 500 gravity. Its hard. Case closed. Same thing with the other top 20 vendors of Ebusiness on Clickbank. These guys are SMART. Learn from them.

But anyhow, you know something is a bit off with an overall atmosphere when the two reviews from actual customers are good, meanwhile the 40 other comments from visitors (non-customers) are angry, assumptive and nebulous posts. I would say to the people who hate, get to work and you shouldn't even have the time to post here. Mansour is an experienced marketer you can learn alot from. Come to affiliate summit east and hang out! Ok end of rant, have fun yelling at me.

Originally Posted by MrDoughBoy

I am gonna go against the grain here and say this program is not half bad. Aside from the beaten to death article submitter, Mansour does know what he is doing with CPA marketing. Step away from the hype, peel away the clickbank accounts and Mansour does provide some renegade tactics for making money with CPA offers. I am on his mailing list as well and from time to time he does provide interesting "free friday" CPA tactics. I think people here are looking for that magic bullet but when it is not delivered to them, they go running for the refund button. People here want the world for $37. Making money online has become extremely competitive so I appreciate Mansour for the renegade that he is in staying ahead of the curve.

Originally Posted by cadillac48

You guys are wrong. These GURUS do limit the number of copies they sell! They place the limit on the number that they can sell!!!