mpx305

Just got an email on this...

Joe118

Got it too, watching the video, here we go again, you've been lied to, ...

EDIT: Another guy who bought a Range Rover... What's up with that?

mpx305

LMAO! would be nice if they changed up the routine once in a while...lol

Joe118

OK so at least the sales video is slightly better than the run of the mill guru launches --

• Its only 6 minutes (thankfully)
• It actually says what you're going to get (refreshing honesty)
• Only a few of the usual tactics (time limits, I could sell this for 2K, yada)
• It looks (from the outside) like a good value at $37

If anyone gets this, I'd love a real review.

Global365

Just finished watching video also..will wait for reviews. I am sure there are some massive upsells or Sean Donahoe would not be wasting his time on a $37 product.

Michael Wiechert

I agree, there must be some hughe upsells ...
Would be interested in this one, but would like to know on what kind of platform it runs ?
I think that´s one of the key issues, besides all the additional softwares / plugins you might need.

Bcrewse1

Yes..there are upsells ( of course!) $197 - $97 and $47. That's the info I got from clickbank so don't know exactly what they are.
Will also wait for any further reviews from anyone who has bought. Very skeptical of this one cause it definitely walks like a duck.

Jimspeed

I mean.. it's Ryan Lee- I expect a pretty good training course from him...

ryanleedotcom

Hey Guys,

Thanks for asking about Nano Continuity. I'm all about transparency.

1. Yes - there are upsells in place. However (and I will probably lose sales by saying this), they are NOT required to create Nano Continuity. They are for more advanced continuity training (newsletters, producer models, etc.).

2. I bought my range rover 2 years ago

3. It really is a complete system and I really was going to make it an expensive $2K course to have my "guru" buddies promote. I want to reach new customers and I know by delivering exceptional value - they will be around for a long time. Some of the guys promoting this can feel good about promoting this offer (plus, they can make money too - which is a nice bonus

I started my first site back in 1999 and the biggest reason I'm still here is because I work my butt off to deliver great value and develop long-term relationships.

Unfortunately, most marketers are short sighted. But the real gold is in the relationships.

Rock 'on,
Ryan
Nano Continuity

Glengara

The thing I liked about this one is he didn't show pictures of lying on a street with a wine bottle and tell us how the inspired moment got him going (they never do say where they got the credit card to get going though LOL)
-- I've taken too many knocks to believe in this stuff anymore and am not going to waste any more time on them again.

rlpruitt

Ryan,

Thanks for weighing in.

I'm considering buying your product if only to get a few new ideas. I've created a WordPress membership (continuity) plugin and I'm always interested in new ideas for profiting from continuity.

However, I'm somewhat hesitant and, since you're here, I gotta ask...

If "the way to true wealth" (quote from your sales video) is Nano Continuity, why are you selling this as a product? If you've been doing this for over 10 years, using your own projections you should be making hundreds of thousands of dollars each month through continuity. I would think you would release this kind of training as a continuity program.

Does Nano Continuity have a "limit" such that a marketer can reach a point where income increases only come through "stand-alone" product sales?

This is not an attempt to trash Nano Continuity. It's an actual concern I have as I consider purchasing. I just seems a bit contradictory to me that, after years of using "the most powerful" business model (again, quote from sales video) you seem to be forsaking that model to sell a stand alone product.

Thanks in advance,

Ralph

ryanleedotcom

Hey Ralph,

I appreciate your question and your honesty.

First, I have to say that I do in fact earn a really hefty six figure monthly income online. Most of it is with continuity! Some of my continuity programs are membership sites, software programs and even a supplement company that is about to hit seven figures per month.

So I do practice what I preach.

The "Nano" Model is something I've been experimenting with recently - and I'm loving it! Conversions are up and they are buyers.

So why the heck would I teach this stuff?

1. I really do love teaching internet marketing. I've been teaching pure IM for the past 5+ years ever since Yanik Silver dragged me on stage speak at his 2nd Underground event. It's in my blood and if you've ever bought my products or have seen me speak, you'll see how passionate I am.

It's no longer just about the money - I will do this forever!

2. I haven't done a "clickbank" product in years. My first one was back in 2001 and I'm ready to jump back in. I want to reach new customers and keep filling my funnel.

3. By reaching new affiliates who are promoting this program, I'm establishing new relationships. I'm all about relationship building.

4. No matter how much money you have, it's still nice to have a seven figure payday over the course of 7 days. I'll take that every day! Most of my income comes from continuity, but I will still do a few big launches a year. It also keeps you front and center in the marketplace.

I hope that answers your questions Ralph.

Best,
Ryan
Nano Continuity

P.S. Later today I'm adding some new copy with some killer bonuses too. Make sure to check that out around 3pm EST today

Joe118

Ryan

Thanks for this kind of answer. Honest, standup, clear, no flim-flam -- we need more of this.

Based on this answer I'm your customer -- going to buy for the $37 you ask and see if I have anything more to learn (d'oh). I run 2 successful continuity programs already as you can see from my sig, and I'm not achieving the kind of retention you're talking about, plus it is much more work than you imply, even with 5 VAs, so I must be doing something wrong.

I agree with you -- the gold is in the relationship.

Thanks again and I look forward to being your client for a long time

--Joe

mpx305

Hey Joe,

Please don't forget to let us know what you think of the product, I am definitely interested in your opinion.

Regards,

Mario

Wuuki

Hi Ryan,

How much time does it take to go through your course and put it on track?

I am searching for a new model to be introduced to my students, - 99% focused on CPA & Paid Traffic Models so far-, which must have the potential to be scaled to $250k per year within 6 months.

Most of them are full time marketers.

Thanks in advance,

Volker

Joe118

Bought it and downloaded what is downloadable:

• One PDF with >150 pages, organized in chapters that mirror the content of the course
• The course itself is: intro, 4 modules, and a bonus module
• Total of 10 downloadable MP3 audios
• Total of 7 downloadable MP4 videos
• 6 more MP4 videos that dont have download links (yet?)

I did not take any of the upsells-downsells since I'm just reviewing this.

I already found one reason why I'm not doing as well as I can do on one of my existing nano continuity programs -- I didn't have *any* front end offer, so I gave up the opportunity to prep my potential clients with the "why" of my offer.

So this course paid for itself already for me, and I'm going to keep it. And I'm *not* a newbie in continuity programs, in fact 90%+ of my income is from continuity.

I'm not yet recommending this product, because I haven't gone through it A to Z, which I will do. The review will focus on whether the product is useful, complete, and honest -- and for which audience it is intended.

rlpruitt

Ryan,

Thanks for taking the time to address my concerns. I'm still a somewhat hesitant 'cause I'm a skeptic (bought so much garbage in the past) but I gave it a go and purchased the course.

Thanks again for your consideration,

Ralph

P.S. FELLOW WARRIORS: I won't have time in my schedule to go through the course for another few days so, unfortunately, I won't be able to provide a timely review.

ryanleedotcom

Thanks for investing Joe and I'm glad you already got something out of it

Ryan
Nano Continuity

ryanleedotcom

Hi Volker,

The course if a few hours long.

It really doesn't take long to create Nano offers. It depends on how quickly you work and if you already have content in place.

Ryan

ryanleedotcom

Ralph,

I understand your skepticism - I am very skeptical tool. There's a lot of crap on the market (seems to have gotten even worse over the past year).

Looking forward to your feedback.

BTW, I just added a free ticket to the next Continuity Summit as a bonus - so I hope to see you in Stamford!

Best,
Ryan
Nano Continuity

hodari

I purchased this morning. So far have only had a chance to read the pdf/slides. Ryan really breaks it down into bit size pieces. And gives you different paths to take in implementing your particular program.

If you have been in IM for any amount of time then you would be familiar with or even used some of the resources he lays out. Agree with the earlier poster. The front end is the key. And Ryan tells you up the front end is the key to getting you in the door.

ryanleedotcom

Thanks for investing in the program and your positive feedback.

Being a former teacher, I love to break down topics that can seem overwhelming into smaller pieces. It's MUCH easier to learn that way.

BTW, I saw your IM but couldn't reply since I don't have "50 posts" yet. But thank you for the heads up

Ryan
Nano Continuity

Global365

Hi Ryan,

Thanks for joining the chat. Is it possible to do any damage with your course without buying any of the upsells or are they necessary for the success of the program?

Barry

Greg guitar

Ryan, thanks for chiming in several times-that bodes well; hopefully you are as active in your program. I also liked your pitch, and the transparency regarding your sales funnel. I too want to know how complete the $37 training is in itself, but I have two additional questions that haven't been asked:

1) With the traffic methods you teach, how soon would it be reasonable to expect to start seeing those 5-10 daily sign-ups (assuming the usual disclaimers-that all your instructions are followed to a "t", the work is put in [likely by a VA], and the product is a good one in a viable niche..etc)?

2) Is your training a complete enough system that the entire thing, or at least most of it, could be readily outsourced, and do you address that approach in your training?

Thanks in advance for addressing these questions, and for the helpful posts you already contributed. I am quite tempted, as I plan on launching a member site soon, on this domain: howtoplayjazzguitar.com.

PS: One more question occurs to me: Is your training compatible with, or could easily incorporate the major elements (such as the "sideways sales letter")that Jeff Walker addresses in PLF; as I hope to incorporate them in my jazz guitar product launch? I am not an owner of the product, but learned something from his pre-launch videos, and will probably buy and use Jason Fladliens "Poor Man's Product Launch" as well.

Thanks again, Greg

ryanleedotcom

Hi Barry,

Yes you can do serious damage without the upsells. In fact, they are just advanced continuity training with other models (they don't have to do specifically with Nano Continuity)

Best,
Ryan

ryanleedotcom

Hey Greg,

1. That is definitely a loaded question I lay out different marketing models. If you test out an offer that converts, you can ramp it up quickly over a matter of a couple of weeks. If you develop strong alliances, you can hit those numbers in less than 1 day.

2. Sure, you can outsource it. It's step by step, although I tend to attract people who like to create their own content.

Think of Nano Continuity as a model that can work with anything. If you're doing a launch, it will only help your Nano Continuity program.

The more people you get in your funnel, the more you'll have in your NC program.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Ryan
Nano Continuity

P.S. If anything, just buy it for the free ticket to my Continuity Summit III

RedHat39

After watching the sales page video, which I might add was a refreshing break from the 40 minute hyped up pitch fests, and Ryan actually coming here to answer questions about his product. This was a no brainer for me to purchase.

I am personally on the brink of a major product release that will be a continuity based website so this course came at just the right time. I look forward to going through this course and hopefully having my most successful product launch ever because of it.

Thanks for the honesty and coming here to talk about your product Ryan.

CrazyWolf

Bought it after doing a little research on Ryan's background. Very solid, and rubbing shoulders with some IM greats... His enthusiasm feels genuine to me.
Looking forward to getting into the material in the days ahead.
Cheers,
Michael

covert

I have purchased many of Ryans products over the years, and they are all solid...When I first heard about this I didn't think I needed it, but I always go in with the idea that if I just learn one or two concepts, it'll be worth it...

Picked up some great stuff from this and at $37 it is a steal...In fact the additional bonuses included are worth some serious value as you'll learn some great ways to do PPC, FB and banner ads...Trust me, one of the best values.

Al

Joe118

Ryan

It looks like a very good program, from the videos I watched so far.

Guys he really breaks it down and makes it so that if you follow his instructions, you basically cannot fail but have good membership, good retention, and happy clients. That's as far as I got, I'm now on the traffic generation part, which I'll leave for tomorrow.

That the course has a traffic generation module is in and of itself an awesome advantage of this product over all the other flim flam being sold on here and clickbank. Most products leave you high and dry on that aspect of the biz. I'm sure I'll pick up tons of good ideas from Ryan here -- he does successfully enter the mindset of the newbie and explains everything in terms that are as simple as they need to be but not simpler -- so you really get the info you need at a level of complexity that you can get over, if you pay attention and get into it.

In order to really benefit from this course, you have to walk the walk. You have to make your own membership sites, and Ryan breaks down the process pretty straightforwardly.

I'm not done yet going thru the whole thing, so I can't say this as a suggestion or criticism, but if this course does not have a technical section with recommended resources on how to actually do the membership sites A to Z, that would be a great addition.

Another great resource that I'm hoping will become available is a membership forum for the buyers only. We can help each other there actually succeed in a safe and closed environment that will foster learning and development.

Since my success in 2011 depends on the success of my big product this year, a software based continuity program, I really did need this course -- it's already done more to help me than many other programs. The only course that I've taken recently that beats this one in quality and clarity is Michael Rasmussen's course on email marketing, and that's saying something

Paleochora

Ryan,

I have a question.

Are there any specific products (software, plug-ins etc) beyond hosting and an autoresponder needed to work this model. If so, what sort of investment would be required?

JJOrana

I bought the product and here's my review...

First, if you have an existing continuity and running it for at least several months there's not a lot you can gain from here. Invest your money somewhere else.

If you're planning to have your first continuity program, then buy this. For $37? Don't go into business if you can't even afford 37 bucks. Ryan did well and made this an "irresistible offer".

...but before you go to his site.

Listen up!

I bought the continuity programs of both ryan deiss and ryan lee but both seems to veer away from the truth...

that is... "you really don't have a business unless you can afford to buy cold traffic."

If you can't buy (e.g PPC) traffic then you only have a side income that's making money this month and gone next month.

Affiliate, Joint Venture, SEO, are all good source of traffic but that's not the fastest and scalable way.

- With JV, you need to build relationships and it could take months and years to do it.
- Affiliate, well if you're not in the popular market, there's not much affiliate you can recruit. Not to mention that only 10% of your affiliate will really work.
- SEO, a minor change in algorithm and you're toast.

My point is this...

both lee's and deiss' programs didn't laid out a plan nor a formula on how you can afford pay per click campaign. NONE of them.

They only show you the possibilities of making money...

...but once you implemented it, you'll realize that you need traffic, and you need a good "self liquidating front-end offer" and a deep back end products.

Think about this.

For you to afford a 50cents per click, you need a $50 product that's converting by 1%.

LB

I think these are interesting points.

If you are making a few bucks per month per user then you're going to take a loss on the front end to get them (i.e. $40 in PPC costs to get one new user and then hope they stay for months to turn a profit). It will also make it extremely difficult to get affiliates when upfront payout is so tiny since they will also face high advertising costs.

I still like the overall concept of lower prices with an eye towards longer retention.

ryanleedotcom

Thanks for your feedback.

I'm trying to show people you can still provide really good value and sell without being overly hypey

Ryan

RedHat39

I have to agree with JJOrana for the most part. In the past I've had two different membership sites that I was lucky enough to get some JV help with. Each time it was the same an initial rush of traffic and signups but it quickly dies out and then you're back to garnering your own traffic again.

I think the initial goal of Ryan's product here though is to show the business model and how to implement it. Theres no way what was shown as far as traffic generation could be the end all answers. It doesn't matter if you're selling a one off product, a membership access, or a service traffic - consistent traffic - will always be the main lifeblood of success.

The key is though to be smart about your sales and allocate some of your return, whether it be profit or not, into even more traffic generation; thats with any business as well even offline businesses. The product Ryan offers here is training on a different membership model and so far I think Nano Continuity has done a good job of that.

ryanleedotcom

Thanks for investing in the program Mike.

My enthusiasm is real and I sincerely LOVE teaching marketing

I've been here for a long time and don't plan on going anywhere.

I hope you can make it to the Continuity Summit III in Stamford, CT. We put on a really fun event!

Ryan

ryanleedotcom

I appreciate your honesty.

And you bring up some great points. I agree that buying traffic is important, but it's certainly not the only thing. (and I have 3 bonus modules that focus on buying traffic through facebook, ppc and direct site buys).

Also, you mention a self-liquidating offer. The entire first module is all about creating a front end offer into Nano Continuity (NOT trying to sell it cold). That's the key to getting people in the door, and then you make the backend with Nano.

And I don't agree 100% that you can't have a real business unless you buy traffic. Right now, I'm doing virtually zero traffic buying and still bringing in multiple millions of dollars in income.

Just my two cents

Best,
Ryan
Nano Continuity

Ashley Gable

I bought the course and here is my review:

First off maybe it was just me but I was under the impression that this was solely about continuity, I didnt realize there was a front end product involved.

In your pitch you say how easy it is to get 5 new signups a day, I was thinking you meant 5 new signups for $4.95, which sounds quite easy.

BUT you are talking about 5 new front end sales, which lead into the nano continiuiy.

If I was selling 5 of my $27 front end products (the one I was planning on turning into a nano continuity offer) per day I would be extremely happy! If I was making 5 sales a day with that I wouldnt be worried about adding in a continuity program.

I was thinking this was a business model in itself. It isnt, you are going to be adding on another model right behind the normal "sell your product".

That being said I really liked it. I can think of a couple other products I have that this will work really good in. The information is solid and I am looking forward to implementing it into my upcoming launch as I think it will really work.

But if you are struggling to sell your front end product, or in most cases, your only product, than this isnt a viable solution. The front end product needs to be sold in order to get them into the nano-continuity.

You need to be making sales for this to work. At least if you follow it step by step. With some tweaking I can see this working, maybe lowering the front end product price, or using it as a bonus to sign up for the monthly stuff.

All in all a very informational product. And if you are serious about marketing than I think this kind of opens up new possibilities and maybe gets you to think in new ways.

I remember seeing angelas backlink packets and doing the math and thinking "wow if she has just x amount of people!", but I never could think of a way to get the same kind of offer going, I got some now

Joe118

This is where leverage comes in. You should be looking at long term relationships, not the $27 you can make right now by selling them your product..

I'd use other people's lists and selling skills, offer them 100% commission on your front end product and get them to send you prospects. That way you worry about the membership and not about drumming up traffic.

For those that say you have to buy traffic to set up a viable business, if you consider giving affiliates 100% of sales you wouldn't make anyways as buying traffic then yes. But I consider this rather as free traffic

--Joe

Ashley Gable

Yes that is a good idea, but it still doesnt change the fact that you need to sell a front end product.

I am in a few niches where I am the only seller, or maybe 1 other person. So jv's are not really an option.

I would of just like to have seen a model that excluded the front end product.

Like how to structure the offer so that you lead in with a bonus or straight to the nano-continuity.

I was thinking of trying a $4.95 trial 7 day trial, 7 days later remainder of payment charged ($47.00 product that is dripped over 30 days) and nano-continuity started.

But that seems a little too much, as you would have to make it clear that they would be charged $42.00 7 days later, as well as being put into a $5 monthly subscription.

Anyways, I think with a little tweaking you could lead in with a bonus or even maybe $1 for the first month and then $4.95 thereafter.

JJOrana

JVs and Affiliates are all good...

What I'm saying is, having JV is not a scalable business. It's a nice bonus but relying on JV? Come on! You're dependent on someone else mood.

Yes Ryan is not spending a dime in paid advertising and that's because he is "Ryan Lee".

But for 99% of warriors in this forum...it's a different story.

For Affiliates, yes it's possibly one of the best source of traffic...

...but if you're in a niche market, there's not much affiliate to recruit.

That's why Ryan and other BIG time marketers are in biz opp, health, personal devs, and other big markets. Because it's where most JV partners and affiliates are.

ryanleedotcom

Thanks for your feedback.

Having a front end makes it much easier to get people into continuity. I have straight-up continuity programs (membership sites) and over the past 23+ months, it has become more difficult to get people in without either a front end or a relationship.

I am glad you are enjoying the product.

And while you would be glad with selling 5 $27 products per day, you have to look at this long term and those $5/month add up very quickly

Ryan

ryanleedotcom

You can still make a straight-up $4.95 nano continuity offer work. It's just a bit more difficult than bringing them in with a front-end.

I think your pricing idea would confuse the potential customer - and a confused mind always says no

Ryan

ryanleedotcom

I agree that only relying on JVs is not scalable. You must find ways to always fill the bucket with new customers because even continuity will dry up without new people.

Sometimes you have to expand beyond just the web. What about local press? Getting on TV? In newspapers? Again, not as scalable but when you put everything together, it all adds up.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Before I was known by anyone, I had to dig in my heels and work my ass off. And I outworked my competition. I went hard and I went in fast. I went to live industry events. I struck up a deal with a company that sells fitness equipment to trainers (my market was fitness trainers) to have a table at their events. I was the first "business" product they ever featured as a speaker at their fitness events or in their catalog. I lobbied hard to get my own monthly column in the personal trainer industry magazine. This was before anyone knew me.

Getting in that catalog and in that magazine got me in front of 2 million+ of my target market for FREE!

Again, is it scalable? No - but can it build your business? Can it build your brand? Can it give you a name so you don't have to rely so hard on buying traffic or sinking money into the latest "stripped down" or "crusher" products?

YES.

When you start thinking of this as a real business - not just a way for someone to hide behind a computer and "make money in their underwear", really good stuff happens.

This might make me sound old (although I'm only 38), but I believe it takes hard work. It's not always so easy. You can't just "push a button" and expect to make a six figure income. All of my friends who also earn 7 figures + work hard. Yes, even the "gurus".

Sorry for the rant.. I just love talking about this stuff.

Thanks for the great discussions here!

Ryan
Nano Continuity

hodari

Most of the "gurus" who's list you are has a front end product. That is nothing new. I bout Jason Fladliens How to write a article in 7 minutes product. I think that's the right name ! That cheap front end ebook lead me into buying about 3 or 4 more of his products. And they were all more than 7 bucks. Dude is a product making machine.

You are in effect getting a lead to pay you upfront to continually market to them through email or mail. I know it works because that is how Matt Bacak did it a few years ago. Use to get his monthly print newsletter and he would market to me with postcards. I still have it for a swipe file just in case ! Now it was forced continuity, but I already knew that going in. That is not what Ryan is advocating.

Jesus Perez

Ryan, you're giving away some excellent advice in this thread. I hope everyone's taking notes. I sure am.

hayrik

G'day Ryan, have a couple questions for you, please...

1) can you successfully use clickbank as your payment processor to set up these nano continuity programs?

2) will the Continuity Summit III be broadcast or recorded for O/S purchases who may not be able to make it to US?

3) will you be avail to answer questions after the sale?

Thanks!

Joe118

Well (as you can see from my sig) I have two nano-continuity programs already, and I suspect that perhaps my retention and conversion are not as good as they could be, because I am not doing -- currently -- any priming with a front end product.

I suspect that's what Ryan is getting at with the front end product idea. Like you I *would* like to just get them straight into the continuity, but maybe Ryan knows something I don't so ...

Ryan can you chime in?

Paleochora

Ryan,

Looks like my question got lost in the rush. Can you answer it please?

Also, is the seminar ticket saleable? There's no way I could make it but would like to give someone else the opportunity.

Ashley Gable

Oh yeah I am not saying that the $5/month wont add up. But this is kind of like a OTO script; you need the person to buy your front end product in order to get any benefit out of it.

All I was saying is that if one is struggling to even sell their front end product (like most do, or at least I did when I first started) they wont get much benefit out of a nano-continuity program, as they wont get many into it.

Yeah that pricing model idea was scrapped pretty quick

Have you ever done $1 for the first month then $4.95 thereafter? If one was doing a nano-continuity as their front end offer that is.

Thanks for posting here. It is pretty cool to get some feedback and clarifications.