MikeFriedman

Hope I'm not jumping the gun here, but I went ahead and placed an order for another VPS to install this sucker on tomorrow.

If it lives up to half of the hype, I will be happy to pay the $127 price tag. Only reason I stopped was the fail rate on the signups was getting too high to justify the cost with so many other cheaper tools out there.

I'm especially intrigued by the scheduling of multiple projects. That will be a huge timesaver to me. I typically have to do work for one client at a time on any given day. This though feels like the Ron Popeil rotisserie oven. "You just set it and forget it."

rhinopower

I hate to sound like a noob but what does VPS stand for?

Rhino.

Droopy Dawg

Virtual private server...

Per Wiki...

Jeremy Kelsall

I think this needs to be said...

There has been quite a bit of talk about VPS, dedicated servers, and other hosting solutions for SENUKEX...Not only are those things not required, but they aren't NEEDED for most of the people that get the software when it goes live.

When I got my review copy, I was running it on my laptop with no problems whatsoever for almost 2 days before we moved it onto one of our servers...because that is what we do with software - We host it on servers to keep it off of our regular machines and so that my partner, myself, and our staff have access to the tools.

The software ran smoothly and without error on my laptop...we hosted it out of convenience - NOT NECESSITY.

I wanted to get that out there because I don't want anyone to think that you have to pay for a server or do a bunch of complicated stuff to get your moneys worth from the software.

GrayGandalf

A question to those who are lucky to try it:
When installing on my computer and on my assistant, can both of us work on SENukeX the same time (like MS, for example) or we have to coordinate who is logged in?

GrayGandalf

Oh, another question - I have opted in but didn't get any diagrams.
Today few marketers told me that if I won't opt in through their link I will miss 5 of the diagrams. Is that correct?

Mike Anthony

thought some people considering this product might find this Youtube channel useful

YouTube - jeremyashburn's Channel


The diagrammer is some pretty nice eye candy but after watching a number of videos I don't see (outside of forum profile blasts) any facility to add your own sites. Absolutely essential for any advanced SEO as far as I am concerned so I'll pass. I don't have the eye candy but I can set up campaigns easily with a little thought and can actually add my own HIgh Pr links integrated into my campaign which makes all the difference in anything but weak niches.

Mike Anthony

True enough since you also benefit from full access to the CPU which you don't get with most VPS packages. However for those who don't want to tie up their systems its a good option especially if they schedule the software to work throughout the day.

However we shouldn't leave the impression that there is anything complicated about a windows VPS used for this. its simpler than any software you will run on it. Click remote desktop connection, enter the connection settings your host provides and bam done. You have an additional desktop that you can minimize like any other piece of software. You work on the vps with that desktop just as you would on your own system. terribly simple.

Jeremy Kelsall

Agreed. Almost 100% of the software that Don and I run is either on a dedicated server or a VPS somewhere just so that we can use our personal and business CPU's for things like video rendering and other things without worrying about running low on resources.

If you've got a couple extra bucks in the budget and want to have all the benefits of essentially an extra computer at your disposal, a VPS or even a dedicated server is a great thing to have for applications that use a fair amount of resources.

I just didn't want anyone to think that it was a MUST HAVE. If you currently have SENUKE or any other software like it that you are running on your personal computer, you wouldn't notice much difference if any in the amount of resources used - On the contrary SENUKEX appeared to use up less resources than the previous version of it due to the fact that the tasks were spread out over the course of a day, week, or longer.

ilya

As I asked earlier, when it is on a VPS, proxies or HMA-like service is still required, right?

Jeremy Kelsall

Yes....and NO...

If you are what I consider a "regular user" - which means 2 or 3 runs a day, you probably will never have any use for proxies or trying to hide who you really are in any way whatsoever.

Using proxies with programs like this, decreases the success rate considerably, so they shouldn't be used unless you absolutely HAVE TO use them.

If on the other hand, you are dinging the same sites 5+ times a day, you will probably want to think about finding a way to hide your identity to stop your blogs, profiles, and content from being deleted.

GrayGandalf

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for all your help here!
Do you mind answering the 2 questions I had above? (#105-106)
Thanks

celenco

In a couple of hour SenukeX will be released, will it be an automatic update or will we have to download it from our member site.

forest1

I got an email this morning saying they will be sending out a link, I would imagine it will be an update too, but not sure... Be good if someone knows, Im in the UK so while everyone is enjoying the new Senukex Im going to be snoring, unless I stay up till one but I wont be trying out it till morning, the original version has worked well for all my sites, none of which were built to be affiliate sites, Ive got some page one rankings.

Peter Ridell

Hi, I just paid the $127.

Will the download link be on the Please login page at launch time or do we need to go somewhere else?

Thanks.

Pete

Peter Ridell

Answered via an auto email....

"Keep an eye on your inbox for the link to grab your copy of SEnuke X when we go live tomorrow...
April 5th at...8:00PM Eastern Standard time!"

MacWebHosting

Hey Pete,

Was wondering the same thing too.
I guess they will update the members page with the new payment plans: monthly, yearly & lifetime (and get rid of the old senuke two payment options there currently).

Launches 8am my time tomorrow, so I've got allllllll day to play with it

BTW, the youtube channel of Jeremy Ashburn listed above has some great training videos to get you drooling.

Enjoy!

maveric

Hmm... all this talk about VPS and Dedicated Servers...

Why not just get an additional dedicated machine at your home/office?

I picked up EVO2 a few months ago, and a Pentium 4 machine on craigslist for under $100 to run it on. My VA logs on with LogMeIn. Seems to work fine, and I don't see a noticeable increase in my electric bill (to say it's $10/mo would be pushing it), even though it's on 24/7.

Am I missing something here? Are there benefits to a VPS that have escaped me?

Even if I go out and get a BRAND NEW Quad Core machine and max out the RAM, I'm looking at about what... $700? A machine like that on a VPS seems to be around $90 or more. So vs. 8 months of the VPS, I can OWN the machine, with no monthly payments ever.

Again, I'm really asking here... I'm by no means an expert, and just started learning a couple months ago out of necessity. Can someone enlighten me? Am I missing the mark here??

Innercore

Hello All
I have seen the Lifetime option.
Is there any way or option to pay this in 2 instalments?
If not, If I take yearly option, Can i upgrade to lifetime later?

Any insight ?
Please help...

thanks
Jay

Mike Anthony

Don't need that much computing power for most of these programs. A $30-$40 /month unmanaged VPS is good enough. Yeah you can buy a system or tie one you have exclusively to it but $35 is easier on most people's cash flow. No need to use any third party remote system either. Built into all newer copies of Windows.

Other minor advantage - You can show an IP address in a geo location you want and a distinct Ip address (without proxies) if your broadband has a fixed IP

Mike Anthony

Except for your host. With a VPS you need to make sure your host isn't shy about spamming. Some hosts don't like their Ip ranges reported as spam (which some webmasters will do) and in that case a proxy is even more needed if you don't want the account locked down.

by the way Jeremy I gather you have used this - I know it was beta but was it stable as of last use. I'm remembering big launches where the software (like Kajabi) really wasn't ready. Also can anyone confirm or deny my deduction that you can't add you rown sites (besides forum platforms)?

Frank Ayres

where is the lifetime option as i cant find it?

Donald Truehart

You can NOT add your own sites.

Sara Young

I like the VPS idea. Can anyone recommend a good hosting company that provides Windows VPS?

Mike Anthony

Bleh. Just what I thought watching the videos. So long and short is that outside of the diagrammer there isn't anything this thing does that can't be done now with other tools and many of them you can add your own sites? Well that and what you can submit is integrated

Some benefits but $2000? Not really revolutionary. Magic submitter should get together with Senuke. Now that would be a system!

Follow up question. Since I can't add my own sits is there anywhere Where I can find out the list of sites it does include?

Peter Ridell

Depends what you mean by adding your own sites?

I see in the videos you can add your own url's to bookmark, include your own url's in links and of course embed in articles for social networks etc

Are you hoping to post to your own sites?

Sorry I'm not sure what you meant.

Pete

Mike Anthony

I mean the backlink sites themselves. If I find a good article site I can't add it. Or a blog or a bookmarking site. Extremely important because the sites of wildly popular (as this apparently is going to be) backlinks software get slammed mercilessly and often make changes, shut down links entirely or get devalued by Google etc. Plus none of these site have backlinks with pagerank and I always add that into whatever I am doing for my clients.

robofx

[QUOTE=Jeremy Kelsall;3623289]Many will cringe at the price tag of $127 a month or $147 a month depending on when you get in...but, if anyone can point me in the direction of where I can get this kind of work done cheaper,[QUOTE]

Magic Submitter costs $67 a month.

robofx

"Adding your own sites" means just what it sounds like.

For example, I used Magic Submitter's "Designer" tool to add Tropolotto to Magic Submitter.

It's not an SEO site, it's a free lotto site.

Magic Submitter logs in and chooses my six free lotto numbes every day.

That's what I call "adding your own site."

....Crap. Now if I win, Tropolotto'll probably disqualify me for using automation tools. Gotta learn to keep my danged mouth shut.

perswealth

Sure, you can do it this way, but what if, after two months, you realize that SenukeX is not for you? Now you're out $700 with nothing to show for it, and a computer collecting dust and taking up space in your house?

With a VPS for like $30 per month, or just using your regular computer, you can test it out for a few months and see if it is anything like it is being portrayed. If it is, then you can go the new computer route and forget about the monthly bill, or if it isn't, then you are out like $60 (or out nothing if you used your own computer).

Bottom line, first find out if this is the real thing by using it for a little bit. Then think about buying the new computer if it is.

Jeremy Kelsall

[quote=robofx;3653445][QUOTE=Jeremy Kelsall;3623289]Many will cringe at the price tag of $127 a month or $147 a month depending on when you get in...but, if anyone can point me in the direction of where I can get this kind of work done cheaper,Magic submitter requires that I babysit the software and push the buttons.

SENUKE lets me diagram how I want my links built, does the work without any interference from me, and then gives me the links.

One of the drawbacks about software like this is the time that it takes to actually "run" the software. As someone that used the old SENUKE, Magic Submitter and the other software on the marketplace, I can estimate that to make a full run of:

Web2.0 sites
Social bookmarking
RSS Feeds
Videos
Profiles
etc

You would need to sit in front of your computer for at least an hour - Probably 2 or 3 hours...The way SENUKE works now though, you can set all those things up to run in about 5 minutes (if that).

For me, another $60 a month is well worth not having to do everything manually.

Chris Cole

We could also go to Ebay and buy a second hand machine in good working order and there would be no need for a VPS and the monthly fee of around $40-$60

You can run this pc as your backlinking machine, switch the monitor off (save a little on elec) and let it run..

Chris

Steadyon

Does this mean that you can promote different websites at the same time, or do you have to wait until one website has been completed, before it starts chugging away at the next one?

robofx

What was that I read about sizzle and steak? LOL

Not really. The scheduling feature isn't available in anything but Senuke-x and Magic Submitter as far as I know.

And of course, Magic Submitter costs just $67/month and lets you fix broken sites yourself.

Oh yeah, and you can add your own sites from scratch.

robofx

Really? I just schedule the jobs. I let it run while I sleep.

perswealth

Actually, Serpassist was the first.

Terry Hatfield

Has anyone found any good bonuses for signing up yet? I am not on a lot of guru lists so if anyone knows anyone good ones please share.

Thanks

robofx

That does sound like a nice feature. Magic Submitter doesn't have that. I have to use Mindmapper to diagram my link wheels/pyramids.

No way it's worth 60 more bucks a month, though. I'd rather spend the cash on chinese buffets.

Jeremy Kelsall

The difference here is that I can map out a linking structure that is unlimited levels deep and wide, and turn SENUKE loose on it for a single day, a week, or longer.

You can't do that with Magic Submitter. Trying to make the argument that they work the same way is a little...dishonest, don't you think?

I can set a project up in SENUKE, come back a week later and it's done without any other intervention, scheduling, or diagramming on my part.

To me, the only advantage that Magic Submitter has over SENUKE is that you have the ability to add your own sites, which is definitely a GREAT feature, and I would hope that it will be a feature that is in SENUKE before too long.

robofx

Yeah, I'm just a lying scumbag.

Take care now.

Dexx

Anyone planning on plunking down the $2,000 for the lifetime option?

~Dexx

Frank Ayres

i am thinking of it if i can find it!

robofx

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks!

In looking at serpassist.com I see it even has diagramming built in too. Interesting.

Digital Traffic

Do you have to purchase before the launch tonight to get the one time payment plan, or is there a window of opportunity that starts tonight?

Thank you in advance.

Mike Anthony

WOW. Not true at all. You said before you didn't understand it and thats probably one of the things you didn't get. No it doesn't hold your hand with diagramming but once you set up your profiles etc just as you have to in SEnuke X - You click and you are done. if you are talking about changing between runs keep reading

Totally false. If you use MS with the preincluded links you set up the profile and you do your runs. You can even minimize and go on using your system. The only thing that takes time is adding your own sites but you can't do that in Senuke so its an apples and oranges comparison. Its all right to fall in love with all the Hype over Senuke x - thats the nature of IM these days - but we don't have to start ripping other people 's software with things that are just not true or fair to their work

People keep coming back to this set and leave alone feature of Senuke and I like thats its build in but sorry-

has no one ever used any mainstream automation tools on here before?

You know the ones you pay for once even under hundred dollars? Have you really been sitting there waiting all this time for automation when Download.com has at least 20 good ones to try our for free and then one time low payments? they've been around for YEARS.

Even cheap macro tools allow you to run stop close and reopen software according to a schedule you set up. Some automation tools have rules and triggers. I can setup a folder have an email forwarded to it with my customers details - it triggers the automation tool to start up a submitter fill in the profile etc and run the whole thing (if I rolled like that)- and I don't even have to know the name of the client yet. Now thats the more sophisticated aspect of it but doing what SenukeX does in way of scheduling its easy (in fairness if something should happen to my VPS - Like never with my host - I couldn't restart where it had ended but for those rare times I am not paying $2,000)

Like I said the only thing I am seeing here I can't duplicate for one time payment for tons cheaper is the diagrammer and its not that I can't diagram that out on paper and the results be the same either. Its nice though. It has a cool factor that will make it sell but the inability to add non slammed to death backlink sites just makes it inferior to the rig I want setup on my systems.

Now whats tempting is that some serious money is going to be made by people who ballyhoo this software. I can see it now. People are going to kill with WSOs diagramming some magical way of getting senuke to drive them to the top of Google as if the diagrammer now defeats the G algo. LOL.

Bring on the screen capture software and the $47+ WSOS showing "diagram your way to the top of google strategies for any niche". But em? How many people who have been at it awhile didn't have diagrams if not on their screens in their minds or on paper? seriously? Nah its cool but watch the hype that will follow this one not to mention the Warrior services that will promise special results based on owning this too.

Its going to be a mad race to post the first WSO for this that unlocks the secrets of SEnukeX. tempting to buy just for that but then no doubt beta testers have this on lock and will have "courses" ready to go by 8:01.

You never had to do everything manually. Yes you can setup a campaign in five minutes but everyone will be hitting the same sites and I'll be taking 30 minutes m and adding any site that I want. I'm leaning more toward Zennoposter these days though not MS. Admittedly it will never be that popular becomes the russian programmers can program very well but man they are horrid at documentation and so it has a huge learning curve but I can see setting up a capable system with MS as well.

Whatever floats your boat but what you said about MS just isn't true

Focused Action

Mike Anthony - hey mike, just for comparison purposes, what would you recommend that would give us similar backlinking tools that senukex? one specific product or a combination of products? Thanks.

steve-wilkins

Completly agree I was also lucky enough to test the water with the SENukeX beta version and even though I have a laptop with only 90GB hard drive (shocking I know) and only 2GB Ramm, SENukeX has run perfectly well in the background and I love how it is now so much more compact and minimizes to the system tray of your desktop.

I have even reviewed in detail a lot of the the new SENukeX features in full as well as SENukeX vs SENuke test. Just see my Sig below for details.

robofx

Actually, Magic Submitter has a very clear user guide written by an American lady named Donna. I find it comprehensive and clear.

Magic Submitter also has very good video training, taught by an American named David Sprague.

It's crystal-clear. He walks you step-by-step through the software, creating new videos every time the developer adds a new feature.

Heck, you can try it for 30 days for five bucks.

Mike Anthony

Well using jeremy's list for convenience


Web2.0 sites - MS can handle that easily
Social bookmarking - bookmarking demon pretty good for that - one time payment
RSS Feeds - Lots of software have this built in
Videos - MS (though to be fair I've read some complaints on that part of it and have never used it myself so you can swap out on that)
Profiles - Sick, MS again

Plus I'll add articles and AMR - one time payment -and it can submit to blogs which I think Senuke includes under Web2.0

then all you need is something like winautomation to start and stop things when you want them. Some trial and error probably but way under a thousand much less two and you can add correct or change any site you want with MS. If you want to get rid of MS monthly fee then you can add in one time payment tools above. I'll probably be swapping out MS for Zennoposter soon but thats just me and the learning curve on it is VERY steep. Its more comparable to ubot.

Now if you can afford it and want to have it all in one then Senuke might be your thing. I am not even so much objecting to it for myself based on cost as much as not being able to add your own backlinking sites. the day i can add my own sites to it and not just the same ones that are going to be hammered by every senuke user (who are well known for slamming sites) then I will plunk down the cash for it - monthly at first. Never EVER would buy a lifetime license of a newly released software at those prices before I could make sure all the features actually work as advertised.

Mike Anthony

Yes very good training but I was referring to Zennoposter not MS as needing far better documentation