Who's the BEST Copywriter out there todate?

by askloz

Posted: 13 years ago 12 replies

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Hi everyone

I'm calling on anyone who has hired a "Professional Copywriter" for their businesses and have returned the best results for them...

Could you supply their names and the type of conversions they were able to deliver and do they offer revisions of copy to tweak it for maximum conversion?

Thanks in advance

Loz

#copywriter #todate

Craig Beckta

13 years ago

You can't go wrong with Vin Montello...

He helped me launch a six figure business
over night.

Kevin Rogers and his team are also excellent.

They are probably responsible for more Clickbank
number ones than anyone else.

Although, these guys do not come cheap.

Good copy isn't the only factor unfortunately...

Having the best copy in the world isn't going
to matter if you don't have a form of traffic.

For example Joint Venture partners with
responsive lists, paid traffic etc.

The offer is also a huge factor.

Is it something the market is buying
already?

Is there a demand?

If it is a make money product, do you
have proof to back it up?

There are no guarantees unfortunately.

Copywriters get paid before you launch
so you could end up winning or losing,
depending on a host of factors.

Wish you the best...

Craig

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askloz

13 years ago

Thanks Craig,

I spoke with two very popular guys about Vin, and I got mixed reviews.

one person said that he was a major let down. And they had to re-do it themselves and converted much higher, way way higher.

The other, said they used him twice. One of the times it was a bomb, it converted, but not as much as they hoped... the other time it was a home run.

Both of these guys are traffic genius's...

Yeh, my site is a make money online product, 12 month forex course.

Any ways, thanks Craig for your feedback... do you mind if I can take a look at your copy, you can send it via PM if you prefer?

Cheers

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Thanks.

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Jamie Lewis 13 years ago

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- askloz 13 years ago
  
  thanks for the short post.
  
  care to be more elaborate
  
  cheers
  
  Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis
  
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  Craig Beckta 13 years ago
  
  Thanks Craig,
  
  I spoke with two very popular guys about Vin, and I got mixed reviews.
  
  one person said that he was a major let down. And they had to re-do it themselves and converted much higher, way way higher.
  
  The other, said they used him twice. One of the times it was a bomb, it converted, but not as much as they hoped... the other time it was a home run.
  
  Both of these guys are traffic genius's...
  
  Yeh, my site is a make money online product, 12 month forex course.
  
  Any ways, thanks Craig for your feedback... do you mind if I can take a look at your copy, you can send it via PM if you prefer?
  
  Cheers
  
  Hi,
  
  I closed down the two offers that Vin wrote for me.
  
  Your best bet might be with either Kevin Rogers or
  Colin Theirot.
  
  Craig
  
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  askloz 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Craig Beckta
  
  You can't go wrong with Vin Montello...
  
  He helped me launch a six figure business
  over night.
  
  Hi ya
  
  K, now im confused. above you say he turned your biz into a 6 figure one.
  
  Originally Posted by Craig Beckta
  
  I closed down the two offers that Vin wrote for me.
  
  Your best bet might be with either Kevin Rogers or
  Colin Theirot.
  
  Craig
  
  Now you knocked it back... :confused:
  
  regards
  
  Thanks
  
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  Craig Beckta 13 years ago
  
  Yes, that is true.
  
  But Kevin Rogers team is really hot
  right now.
  
  I can't even count how many winning
  campaigns they are behind.
  
  Also Colin Theirot is very good as well.
  
  It almost seems as certain writers have
  there hot period.
  
  I'm open to trying other people if there
  conversions are consistently high.
  
  One thing you have to watch out for though.
  
  Is often top copywriters have an mentor ship
  program.
  
  New copywriters write the copy and then the
  star copywriter tweaks it.
  
  It's a win/win for them.
  
  They charge you 10k or more and then the
  student pays them like 1K a month to write
  sales copy.
  
  I'm not saying Vin Montello or Kevin Rogers or
  Colin Theirot do that.
  
  But there are copywriters that do.
  
  That is about all the advice I can offer
  you on the subject.
  
  I wish you the best...
  
  Hopefully some other people can
  chime in and share their experience.
  
  Craig
  
  Thanks
  
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Hans Klein

13 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

I work with Vin and I've seen first-hand the vast majority of the projects he works on are hits.

The thing is no matter what copywriter you get, they're not going to hit a home run out of the park every-time. More often than not, it has nothing to do with the copy, but there's a million other things that can be messed up or simply go wrong. Even the most established guys like Makepeace, Kennedy or Carlton don't hit home-runs 100% of the time.

Copy is only a small part of the equation. Far more important is:

1. The right targeted traffic (not just traffic)
2. The right offer (the design of the product, the price, the guarantee, the appeal of the product, believability/credibility, and so on)

Then, comes copy which puts the offer in the best possible light.

In other words, you've got to look at the quality of the work and the overall track-record of a copywriter. Does he/she give you a better opportunity for a hit than doing it yourself or going with someone else?

There are a lot of factors that go into answering this question, like overall past track-record, how well you work together, experience with your market, how hard the copywriter works for you, and so on.

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MikeHumphreys

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hans Klein

The thing is no matter what copywriter you get, they're not going to hit a home run out of the park every-time. More often than not, it has nothing to do with the copy, but there's a million other things that can be messed up or simply go wrong. Even the most established guys like Makepeace, Kennedy or Carlton don't hit home-runs 100% of the time.

Copy is only a small part of the equation. Far more important is:

1. The right targeted traffic (not just traffic)
2. The right offer (the design of the product, the price, the guarantee, the appeal of the product, believability/credibility, and so on)

Then, comes copy which puts the offer in the best possible light.

In other words, you've got to look at the quality of the work and the overall track-record of a copywriter. Does he/she give you a better opportunity for a hit than doing it yourself or going with someone else?

There are a lot of factors that go into answering this question, like overall past track-record, how well you work together, experience with your market, how hard the copywriter works for you, and so on.

Hans makes a lot of great points.

I'll add two more.

First, no single copywriter writes their best material for every single niche.

There's some niches they really understand deeply and completely. There's some niches that they'll never completely understand. There's some niches that they have no interest in spending weeks researching and studying in depth either.

So I'd suggest focusing on finding copywriters who have either worked with your niche or want to work with your niche.

Two, focus on finding a copywriter that you can make part of your team. Someone that will learn more than just the particulars of your project... someone who will write in your voice for all of your marketing.

That way, you're not hunting for the current hot hand on a project by project basis. You're not having to bring a new copywriter up to speed on your background, business successes, etc. on each new project.

It's no accident that some of the most successful businesses, major mailers, and info-marketers keep using the same copywriter for project after project.

Hope that helps,

Mike

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askloz 13 years ago

Cheers Craig, I appreciate your honest feedback. So props to ya my friend

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- Jamie Lewis 13 years ago
  
  Mal Lambe, CopyNazi you heard of him? Hes here on Warrior. Im digging some stuff he did recently. Im not sure if he wants me going into too much depth of what the project was, etc but I want to hire him for some stuff. Definitely "Different" and "hardcore"
  
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askloz 13 years ago

Cheers Guys,

I've hired one just the other day, so rock'n and roll'n now
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