anton343

Hi guys.

just purchased this but didn't even get the time to test it before asking for a refund.

Ok some of you may think I am stupid but heres why.

It doesn't really matter where the creator of the software resides but

After watching the sales video I was believed the product creators lived in the USA maybe canada especially after showing a picture of his old dodge in the video. Anyhow after watching I subscribed for my key and the email response came and I was suprised the adress at the bottom showed warrington in the UK (not far from myself)

ok it's not the worse place in the world but if had made $1.7 million dollars its not somewhere I would choose to buy an appartment

that really should have stopped me there but hey that is their choice they could be from the USA/canada however when they devoloped the software and moved over here.

So of I go and purchase. After the usual upsell and jumping through hoops I get to the members area. Ok well built and tons of tutorials etc. everything looks OK.

Then I notice a link that says buy credits and a quick check of this and I realise that you only have so many credits for your website and traffic software and when they are used you have to buy more. Nothing like this was mentioned in the sales video (unless I fell asleep watching it)

So I decided to check my clickbank receipt and suprise suprise I had signed up to a subscription without realising it. Ok my fault I guess it would be on the order form but I didn't check because I wasn't expecting it as again I heard no mention of it in the video.

I very rarely request a refund and it must have been a few years ago before I last did but I had no hesitation this time.

This may be the best piece of software to hit the net for a long time but hey if I lose out I don't really care. If I knew what the terms where when signing up I probably would still have purchased and would have stuck with it and given it a fair try. I just don't like being duped.

I really prefer sales page that not only have the video but text as well then there is no disputing whay you are getting into

Anton

Ethiccash

You're right. This is the example of the perfect Scam. This is in fact a "rebranding" of sni.pr tool. Not sure if this is the same team or not. (that said, I was contacted by my broker since they wanted to sell this website and they wanted me to buy it... when I saw the crap, I quickly declined the offer).
That said, the system is just deprecated, the traffic engine is in fact a pinging tool (yes, just like the built-in pinging tool in wordpress).

The whole pitch is then faked (since sni.pr exists for a long time and does not do 1% of what the video pitch claims). There's no magic trick inside.

Obivously no one would believe in their pitch, nor in their screenshots, but since they mentioned a few traffic gateways, I thought they would have gone a step further and developed something somehow useful. Another scam, proudly processed by Clickbank.

Congrats to Clickbank to allow such crap on their market place. I guess that for 11000 vendors out there, they will soon be shut down by the FTC because of 50 scammers. Sounds like a wise business strategy.

JP

tagiscom

Hi, Anton

I looked into this as well, on the surface it looks legit you really start believing that this might be a genuine one.

And l thought that the Registration key or whatever they called it would give me 4 hours to try this out.

After all if l made $50 bucks in a few hours, wild horses wouldn't stop me from purchasing it.

But after realizing that it was just a way to get your email, and there was supposedly a special discount off the price at best, it started to smell a bit fishy.

Interesting thing about this software is it sounds very similar to a piece of software that was being sold on Clickbank, although over there a team of bored Russian hackers created something along these lines.

That smelt scammy, so l kept away from it, but as you were saying this might work, time will tell.

Shane

Clojo

I nearly fell asleep listening to the sales video for this, so while it ran I did a search and found this thread. I didn't even bother wasting my time listening to the end of the video. Thanks guys. The last scam I fell for that had a similar sales pitch was Get FB Ads Free and that was a load of junk!

HansRostek

Hay guys, thanks for the info, also nearly fell into there Sales Pitch Trap, but one lesson I have learned, after being caught a couple of times, is always first check the Warrior Forum about the product you intend to buy :-)

Andre Slater

All of these clickbank internet marketing get rich programs all sound the same now. If you hear any of the below phrases in any IM video don't waste your time buying and come straight here to find out the real:

1. Look, I don't know how you got here or how you got access to this, but....

2. Internet Marketers are lying to you. They are secretly making millions while you are making squat...

3. Automatic switch that all you have to do is turn on. Just a few clicks and you instantly have money in your account.

4. I was flat broke barely could feed my kids. Living in a shack. Driving a Hooptee...Etc

5. You probably never heard of me. I am not a internet guru. I am undercover, but I make a killing online.

6. Software that exploits the internet. Some sort of glitch. Some guarded technology. Software that gets Automated traffic to any offer.

7. You don't have to type anything, write articles, seo, ppv, ppc, build blogs, build list. You do nothing but 1. plug in software 2. activate 3. get rich.

I can go on for days. I am not bashing these types of offers, but what I am saying is that it's ok to make all those claims, but the product should work as claimed. It can be stretched some, but not straight up lies.

I haven't personally bought this program, but it just sounds like all the other junk I have bought from clickbank in that niche. Low price, ton of upsells, basic course formula.

His sales angle is using curse words. This makes it different and you feel he is being real with you. Good tactic, but I want to see if this product works for broke people like he says.

I am no longer promoting products in the make money niche from CB unless it has killer reviews on WF. Once one thing works people just duplicate. Crap creating Crap!

Its all based on the "what if" factor. People buy these programs because they have the what if it works in the back of there minds.

Knowizard

I'd like to say thanks as well for saving me from that long video and questionable product.

Interesting thing... in doing a search on "xtreme profit robot review warrior forum" Google returned a non-warrior-forum page titled "Warrior Forum Xtreme Profit Robot." Wonder if that's the beginning of a trend?

Steadyon

Never buy anything from Warrington!

anton343

ROFL

I usually try to drive around it if I have to go anywhere on the other side

Greenfatman

Well done! you're learning the lesson and thanks to share....

jake5

My thanks, too, for the low-down. I always check here now first, and it's saved me time and money.

So, does anyone know of a software product for affiliate sales that actually works?

karlh

I have the misfortune to live there!

I am not the 'product' creator BTW lol.

vickiandjerry

Thanks guys, I did watch the entire video and cried my eyes out for poor what's his name - what a skanky apartment! I am so glad he got rich while walking his dog. Boy internet marketing is a lot of time and work, but better to be at home and not stuck in traffic every day!

wwjdo

Well, I'm still a sucker for a good salesman. I guess I haven't seen enough pitches yet. And when they say there's only 300 copies, it dries me wild and I have to buy. Boy do I have a major personality flaw. Everytime they talk about a programmer doing the program that's just too compelling for me. But you should see my Paypal account: Money out one day, refund back the next. I've bought and returned at least 2 dozen products. Thank God for clickbank refunds. Imagine having to fight for every refund. Ok next time I'll come here first--BTW what ever happened to that Vegas call girl who blackmailed that guru into giving her his software? Was it any good?

MrDoughBoy

OK, I am going against the thread here. This is 2011. Its a dog eat dog world. I suspect people that monitor these CB launches are affiliates here. You are experienced affiliates here. Experienced WF's know the deal. These launches are geared toward newbies right? Even with these launches there is something to be learned even if its one iota. Its about sales minus refunds. We know there will be refunds. These gurus know sales minus refunds will be checks to their bank accounts. Is WF about making money or ethical marketing? I think there are advantages when you are an affiliate and not a publisher. I don't need to worry about the customer service. WF members are quick to discredit CB launches yet these gurus continue to to promote them while we sit on the sidelines. NOT ME.

Archimedes

So, what are the 53 free traffic sources he's referring to?

TheMole

Here's my modus operandi.
1. Get email from guru promoting great new product.
2. Watch video on sales page.
3. Get extremely excited.
4. Go to Warrior Forum to validate.
5. Get utterly disappointed.

Verdict: Warrior Forum SUCK because they are a bunch of Dream Busters!!

ProvenWorthy

I was drawn in by the sales talk too initially. Pictures of the car and apartment was not credible but I watched on because he did sound like a relative of Scottie from the USS Enterprise.

When it says only 300 copies available. I really couldn't take it anymore! LOL!

I mean who the f^*k spends time creating a sales funnel and put it up to Clickbank just to sell 300 copies of a software?

Which affiliate would want to build a site and promote something which has a limit of 300 copies? Fortunately Spock thinks it's illogical and gave me the Vulcan nerve pinch before I could move my mouse a pixel closer to Add to cart.

gman2010

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life watching this garbage video sales pitch. the only reason i continued to listen was because the guy was from the UK which makes a change from the usual American(no offence) accent...
I am angry at myself more than them for allowing myself to be drawn in even for 1 second, to this BS.. I will subscribe immediately from whoever emailed this crap to me, I'm sick of people trying to sell me Auto cash push button auto pilot work 5 minutes a day for $170,365 BS systems!! sorry, rant over.. when are CB going to sort themselves out and stop peddling crap.. OK now rant over

b.super13

The only auto profit system I know of is to create a mailing list, provide them with value and then when there is actually a GOOD offer out, send an email blast. If it is a good product you are promoting then you should see sales. If you treat your list like crap and send them offers for every single push button offer, you are soon going to find yourself with 0 subscribers and 0 clicks to any website you send to them.

Unfortunately before your system can be "push button" (I mean pushing send on your autoresponder) you have to put in the work and set up squeeze pages, create the sales funnel, and get traffic of course.

Just my opinion

eyevad

Gotta agree, i mean if the software was making him gazillions, why the hell would he sell 300 copies to us at $49 = $14,700 - Because I WOULD,NT.......i would take the so called software to 300 of my family and friends and help get them rich
jeees - unless of course he REALLY is a good guy...)))

stanli

JP, you've renewed my interest in your stuff with possibly the best, simplest and deepest summary of the load of horse puckey being shoveled by these fraudsters.

JTzor

The crazy thing is, i'm on the list of a person who launched a very successful WSO on this here forum, and he promoted Anik Singal's push button software, and then two days later, sends an email with a link to this piece of trash.

The funnier thing is, this same person, who has had said successful WSO, rails against PUSH BUTTON software and instant riches, both on this forum and in his course. Funnier still, he just had an external launch of the same product that was tested as a WSO - the same one I bought, in which he rails against push button software.

Hypocrisy runs deep apparently, and is a necessary attribute apparently for this person that I am alluding to. I feel angry enough to go into the two or three membership sites that I am a member (2 of which i received access to as bonuses when I purchased affiliate products from his trusted partners) and just going off.

Anyway - caveat emptor people.

By the way, that computer that he was using at work - looked like something out of the 1980s - i coulda swore i saw a floppy drive!

And that dodge - wtf man, where was he driving that thing to? It looks like he was driving it FROM the junkyard.

- JT

mathew2812

Well has anyone actually tested the software
that "Ryan Jackson" is selling? I would be interested
if it can build a website with "ONE CLICK" of the mouse.
Then to plug into 50 odd Gateways for traffic?
Can this actually be achieved?

vetteran

1 Exercise systematic doubt.

2 If it sounds too good to be true then that will be right.

3 Empty vessels make most noise.

4 Always check on this forum.

tagiscom

Yes it is possible to automatically create a website!

I was with a company that had an autoresponder, etc and l found out later that some of the traffic was coming from a site that was generated from my name, etc. The catch was that all sites looked the same and have similar advertising directories on them.

Hard to say how affective this would be long term?

The other catch was that it was a nightmare to pull the monthly $67 plug on. They wanted me to Fax the form to them, witch didn't work. Then l found another fax number on another one of their sites, that also didn't work. Thankfully my tier-higher manager was a decent human being and got me off this. They also wanted me to give them 2 weeks notice or another payment would be taken out. When they said that they would give me a nasty fine for blocking my PayPal account, l should have given it a miss.

And l was surprised to find that Anik has been emailing me about this Robot thing? I would tend to think that there is some truth in that he managed to make it work? But since a Guru that has a 50,000+ list could make virtually any related product cough up, l suppose that more proof is needed.

When someone pushes something like this on Clickbank, (has affiliates) then usually the 300 limit is a crock....

As someone else said, Clickbank is catering for newbies that want to push a button, sit on a beach somewhere and see their bank accounts fill up.

The last thing someone who has high utility bills, barely knows how to email someone and contact their friends on Facebook, and is scared that they will lose their house, wants to hear the truth that it will probably take months or years of intense learning and trial and error to make some real life changing income.

I have been at this for more than 3 years and am seeing real opportunities around, not the press a button, but hard work, long term profits.

Shane

sallycev

I love this forum. Sometimes I just come here for the entertainment after getting pitched something like this! ROTFLOL

Ok, laugh break is over. Time to get back to the real stuff that brings in the money!

Thanks all and Cheers!
Sally

jordan08

LOL so loud that my toddler started laughing with me! I'm so grateful for the WF.

I would have blown so much money without this place!

Henry White

It was three payments of US$49 so his "take" on this is theoretically US$44,100, but do you really think he's going to turn suckers away once he sells 300 copies? Or a thousand? My guess is he'll run this for one year, regardless - the length of paying for the domain name (which expires 17 March 2012 according to whois). If he sells a single copy without refund, he's made a profit - even allowing for the cost of registering a domain name and paying for hosting!

You've seen that it "sells" even to veterans who do know better than fall for this BS. Imagine how this is going to play among clueless newbies and tens of millions badly hit by the Great Recession? The thousands who have been pouring blood, sweat, and tears into it with very little return? And what about the percentage who might be "ashamed" to ask for a refund? That would be public admission that they've been duped.

That's how these predators operator - they know exactly which buttons to push to get you do something stupid, and they're equally adept at getting you to NOT do what's smart and rational. They have no conscience, so they couldn't care less what people think; they've got your money, that's all that matters to them. And in most jurisdictions, they're virtually assured of getting a free pass; and even if you win in small claims, you'll never see the first dime from them, but you will see - and pay - the bills from your attorney.

eddieteo

Lesson #1 - See sales pitch.
Lesson #2 - Do not google for the product or author name
Lesson #3 - Login to WF and search for the product name

Saves me everytime!

gould

These people who promise riches from pushing one button with their magic software make me laugh

Chris Q

Same as Get FB Ads For Free? We'll, Jani G once again is born to be a devil. We must stop him from creating scam products before he creates new sets of victims. Interpol police should make a search or arrest warrant to Jani G and his cohorts. I have escaped in his trap last time on Get FB Ads Free, and I won't even buy from him again.

Clickbank is totally nuts, maybe Jani G threatened Clickbank to hack them if they won't approve his product. This is a warning to all guys, stay away from Jani G and all of his CB products!

Thank God WF is here!

Jeff

tagiscom

The ironic thing is that some of these crafty con-artists might come here and read a thread like this, so they can craft an even better sales pitch around some useless piece of software that doesn't really work!

What l am learning if you try hard enough for long enough you will realize that money can be honestly made.

I suppose these sort of people think l can make $44,000 within a year or do it the long hard way and have to create a quality product or course to make the same amount.

I would rather end up on a beach, with $44,000 knowing that l have genuinely helped people become successful which in turn helped me.

I suppose that creating a dodgy product online is easier and safer than robbing a bank?

Shane

dtmission

I always tell myself not to believe anybody who promises push button riches, but there is the secret desire to find that push button that could replace the struggles and problems to get some money online.

I was tempted, but I am lucky to get some help from the Warrior forum.

Anyway I decided to opt out from the email lists that promoted this.

Mario Pesce

elitefaith

I just wish someone could show me what to do when I wake up tomorrow morning that could start making me money. something to start . sit hear and put 8 hours in everyday to set things up to start making money. something that actually works. I am so tired of putting weeks and weeks into scams that do not work.

elitefaith

has anyone actually tried this yet. It seems like everyone bought and refunded before buying.
maybe something is wrong with the software because this afternoon when I tried to buy this any link to it did not work and I tried several of the e-mails I got from different people. and went on google and tried several there and the web page would not open.

Nisip

This Extreme Profit Robot needs to be taken/slapped off CB fast.

It is killing CB image

UMS

It's actually fitting in very well with the typical CB IM product profile.

DazedandConfused

Thanks Anton! I'm listening to this blather on another screen while reading these posts...yeah it was cracking me up too (the Dodge on blocks) the VO was killing me, "only 300 copies" and the rest of it - LOL

Gee - why doesn't someone just come out with a "Nigerian Scam Robot" WSO - "it sends letters to millions of targeted dupes telling them they have a billion dollars waiting for them alone!" - 'automatically' changes the Family,Bank,or Nigerian prince's name at the touch of a button!
GUARANTEED! Any takers?

(I can't believe people still fall for the nigerian scam...but there's a sucker born every minute apparently - I read about one a little while back... )
Thanks Forum - Cheers!

MatthewNeer

Yeah, that is quite a shame that Clickbank allows that. I once thought that they actually checked the accuracy of the income claims made in the sales videos but it appears anyone can just photoshop in some income proof now and become an "instant millionaire" eh?

Whats their policy on that? Do they actually check the accuracy of claims or do they just let it slide under the rug?

MoneyMagnetMagnate

Good thing CB still refunds no questions asked!
(I guess that's their "CYA" policy )

tagiscom

Hi Matthew,

Clickbank does check out each product they have under their roof, but unfortunately if l came along with a dodgy product and a 100,000 name list. I could send this to that list to show real Clickbank results, that it works.

Then the purchaser finds out later that unless they have a big list or a spare $10,000 lying around it probably won't be very affective.

Clickbank wouldn't allow a fake results graphic, but they apparently allow indirect sales through large scale advertising or emailing to large lists.

From what l have heard you can fake a Clickbank results video as well.

They probably should have small lettering at the bottom of every sales pitch page showing exactly how they got the profit results?

Shane

IM Outsider

Thanks for the heads up guys.

I just have sympathy for the folks
out there who don't subscribe to the
forum and learn the hard way!

tagiscom

Hi EliteFaith and everyone else.

If you want something that offers great advise, buy Charles Kirklands WSO product. He does tend to mainly base his traffic advise on a fairly extensive tool. But he also offers other very good advise about PPC marketing, etc.

Eventually.

Can't say much more, because l may get into trouble, but if you are serious about making money online, then ditch the Profit Robot trash, and purchase this product with useful videos and worthwhile content.

Shane

magnates

Wise words . The sales page is very seductive. Truly understands what goes on the im niche. Made money by doing nothing. Anyone that tells you that is lieing to you

Is it possible to automate some process .Yes . It is probably is but that is after you tested the process and you know it works .The only software I would believe, is the one I create myself

The sales page is seductive and a well woven story but experience tells you it is a lie

Jimspeed

I read this whole thread looking for a REAL product review and all i hear is people bashing it before trying it...

cyberws

"So, does anyone know of a software product for affiliate sales that actually works?"

What, EXACTLY, do you want the software to do? There are a zillion possible tasks that might help to sell affiliate products but this question is too broad for an answer.

JoGood

Thank you Andre, Your comments were right on! I was just thinking about trying a product out for $1/48hrs from an offer in my inbox, but came here to check it out 1st. You reminded me of previous traps I've fallen into. When we are desperate and really need a miracle we are suseptable to these well worded sales pitches. Thanks again.

dark witness

Busted dreams = Money saved in my pocket and time saved asking for refunds. Saved time usually wasted messing about with rehashed crap system, saved mental disappointment of yet another system that does not deliver... 2 min checkup on warrior-forum Priceless !!