RonHamernik

Can anyone review this product launching tomorrow? From what I can see, just one particular page mentioned in the sales letter is worth the value of the product. But I'll be driving through the middle of the desert at launchtime, so I'm trying to figure out just how hard I should try to get a wireless signal.

apollocreed

Save your money. I was a member of it a while back and discontinued. Yes you will learn something if you are a newbie, but unless you are rich, you really would be better off spending that money elsewhere.

It seems Gurus currently are into repackaging their old information products and rebranding them for $$$. Special reports usually tend to become mainstream within a year or two as the information filters to the masses. This forum itself has much more useful info than what you will get in that package.

I have been receiving emails from gurus for several years. The same gurus keep "revealing the never revealed secrets" several times each year. It is the nature of direct response marketing and you need to learn not to be enticed by clever marketing.

lisa mesa

I agree - you´ll get much more value from this forum -as long as you can avoid the noise.

Reese offers good material but makes such big promises that you tend to be disappointed when you get the content.

I was a subscriber to the RR and canceled after 15 months when he failed to deliver on his big promise to reveal all - how he built a profitable Adsense business. The revelation was a newbie level explanation. I was shocked as were many others who expected much more.

He also seems to get bored easily so sometimes his monthly newsletter was great and often it seemed as if he was just knocking out another issue for the deadline.

If you are a newbie then its good information but expensive for what it is.

James Schramko

So true, so true.

And this is happening even faster now.

pearsonbrown

John Reese is normally excellent but his monthly magazine varied a lot in quality. Plus it stopped coming out a year ago so even the freshest statistics date from then. And some date from three years before that.

When I was reading the copy, I was trying to guess the price he would charge, given that he charged so little for Traffic Secrets 2. I was guessing that he was going to let it go for $197 or for free as a bribe to join some other program.

I can't believe people will pay so much for old information in the present economic climate.

Pearson

Kenneth L

I was surprised at how much he was going to charge for it.

It seemed far too much. I thought he might sell it for $297 or $497.

He provides good content but a good chunk of it must be non-relevant 3-4 years on.

lifeonfire

I too canceled within a few months because of the novice material and inconsistency in content.

imlogic

The reese report was like the third sequel to a great original movie:

Unnecessary and just going through the motions (you know when the producer, writers, director and actors are just there to get a pay day from all the good will the original movie garnered).

It was like plr content to be honest with you.

John Reese also had a class - I think it was called IMA or something that was geared towards doing internet marketing for other businesses.

He sold it for thousands and when the class was over you realized you could have gotten better info from 20 dollar ebooks...

The original "traffic secrets" was ground breaking and great back in the day... everything else has been a "third sequel".

Kenneth L

I agree with this.

While I've only read one issue of The Reese Report I can say this:

Traffic Secrets 1 was absolutely incredible, with groundbreaking content that was being revealed nowhere else.

However, this year with TS2, I was at first pretty impressed, but I've gone through it again and, to be honest, it pales in comparison to what TS1 was for its time.

There wasn't enough specific information and there was too much "cover every possible avenue" rather than focussing heavily on the critical few that really matter.

Maybe it was difficult to capture the same energy in TS2 as in TS1 since there wasn't a live audience.

All I know is it wasn't as good.

Kenneth

faakhatri

I am also sick and tired of gurus promoting each others rehashed and old useless products. The prices are going up and the quality is going down. I would be surprised that anybody could think of buying such a product in these economic climate.

Donnie

John mentioned that a lot of his recent customers had been asking about the RR. Demand, real or perceived, created the hefty price tag. I was really curious as to whether this 1000 sets would sell out quickly.

Black Hat Cat

I guess they aren't moving to quickly. He's offering a 12 month payment plan now.

Lance K

Standard launch procdedure.

mikefilsaime

Not looking to comment on much here. I just have 2 things to point out.

1 - What "gurus" have you seen promoting this. From what I know, there is no affiliate
program and the only emails I have seen came from John. If anyone else is promoting,
I would bet it was with no affiliate link. But again, I have not seen anyone promote this.
Just John Reese. So what you are saying seems to very off topic to the launch.

2 - As for OTHER products, not talking about TRRC, yes products do get old or even
rahased. But can you show examples of where gurus get together to promote each
others rehased "Useless" products. I would even be O.K. if you could just show that
just 1 time. Just once. Because I have never seen it.

Black Hat Cat

Useless is debatable....the rehashed part really isn't. Not that there's anything wrong with rehashed, as long as it works, and isn't being framed as a great, new, never-before-released secret technique to success.

Chiayee

I noticed a lot of gurus often say the same things about their products. other similar lines include:
- They beg me not to sell this "secret" to you..
- back by popular demand..

Cy

lifeonfire

So the question is, "Can John Reese re-establish his reputation for great products?"

This will be fun to watch and there are lessons to learn hear. JR's newsletter didn't last but will Kern's and Yanik's???

Dan Kennedy is the supreme-granddaddy of the newsletter business and building the MOST responsive herd. He has several thousands of subscribers... can anyone pull this off?

imlogic

I think John Reese shot his wad with his first product... which was a great product at the time but everything after that was like plr content spiced up with new "ninja" phrases and terminology.

Dan Kennedy is the God Father and Grand Daddy of them all.

If you want the "source" of all these gurus, most can be traced back to Dan Kennedy.

He is bleeding edge in his thinking and always evolves and how he breaks things down is amazing. His material is worth every penny plus a nickel.

At this point and where the Internet Marketing industry is the cost of products are the least expensive en devours...

Its the cost of time it takes to go through content.

One can't afford to go through a course of little value. Even worse is going through one and then implementing only to find out the darn thing doesn't work or is outdated.

To Mike Filsaime:

Here is a clear example of how gurus got together and promoted rehashed material:

Arbitrage Conspiracy

The free report that was given away to promote this - that entire strategy is Chowdury's from PPCformula.

So instead of rehashing their own material, they rehashed someone else's.

Not only that but they added $1,000 to what PPCformula costs.

Now I haven't seen the course but if the "preview" content is entirely stolen from someone else I don't know how that reflects on everything else.

The problem is the Guru launches are not only going down in value but going up in costs because there are more mouths to feed.

I believe Jeff Walker (who created this launch system) should be modeled not just on his launches but "after the launch" as he truly delivers.

His entire business is not just around product launches... he actually does research and development to improve what he is launches.

Most of these "Launches" have now actually become the product. The launches make people feel all good and excited and the climax is the order button.

This is great for dreamers as it gives them another 6 months to dream of all the possibilities instead of having to do anything but for people who actually do **** - they want tangibles.

Fermin Suero

Imlogic, there is some truth to what you say, unfortunately.

Lance K

For a short while probably. But not long term IMO.

Even most of DK's newsletter material is rehashed now. I guess that's how you know you've been subscribed longer than what they count on people staying.

Benjamin Johnson

A friend of mine actually ordered the Reese Report Collection, and most of the material dated back to 2005-2006. Given the pace at which things change in IM, I'm not really sure how useful it would be, particularly when it comes to things like PPC and SEO.
I agree with the comments made above about the trend of gurus repackaging content. It seems like the products are getting bigger (the Reese Report manual alone is the size of a NYC phone book...), the prices are going up, and in many cases the quality is going down.

Chiayee

Davebo: I can't agree more, can we say great minds think alike?

Then when you complain, Mr Reese will say "if he applies the information to work, he will make much more money."

Classic.

pearsonbrown

The thing to remember about John Reese is that since the last century he has been making a lot of money from non-IM marketing. He really can walk the walk.

He's also an extremely thorough tester. If he tells you something works, it works.

However, as I said above, IM moves so fast that test results from a couple of years ago have less value than current ones. The price he is asking is just too much.

Pearson

Black Hat Cat

Maybe that's what he should be teaching then.

Well, the legend of John Reese says he's an extremely thorough tester. Not sure I've ever seen proof of it though.

It is a bit high priced, which is ironic considering it was only a year or so ago when JR told us that the days of the high priced IM product were over. I wonder if he came to that conclusion through testing?

Still, I wouldn't feel too sorry for JR though. Even if he sells only 100 of these kits, that's a cool $200 grand. Not too bad at all.

Bruce NewMedia

Since we're talking about JR, anybody care to hazard a guess why BLOGRUSH failed?
I know that was a project he spent a lot of time developing before launch.
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Bruce

David Hooper

If you're looking for tricks, you'll probably be disappointed. However, RR had market analysis in every issue, which you might find helpful. A good market is 90% of the battle, in my opinion.

jnasty

I think I just learned more for this thread than I EVER have for John Reese!

Thanks

TeamDad

Reese isn't teaching anything new. Old dog with old tricks.

andreiru

Set aside everything else, you learn big *concepts* in the The Reese Report. It it these *concepts* that make the big successes - i.e. help you acquire whatever it is that you want in your life.